Rejecting Responsibility

The contention was advanced in this space that the fundamental disconnect between the President’s general approval ratings and issue by issue approval was a structural weakness that could easily drop the President from 53% approval to 46%. Some readers took me to task; that is now exactly what has happened according to Gallup, 46%. According to Reuters/Ipsos the President’s approval rating is 43%, down 14% in less than a month. (% decline, not points)

Congress offered the President discretion to apply common sense to the Sequester cuts that are nothing more than a reduction in the growth of spending. The President rejected the offer. The Sequester is not cutting spending, just the rate of growth of that spending; for the President it is too much to bear, despite being his idea. The President rejected a Congressional offer to grant him latitude to soften the Sequester; he immediately said he would veto such a bill. The President, by extension, has also rejected his responsibility to govern effectively on behalf of the American people. Internal Administration memoranda makes it clear to Federal departments that they are not to ‘contradict’ the President’s warnings of dire consequence over a pittance in cuts. Create pain!

The President is clearly intent on punishing you to prove he’s right, including his most fundamental responsibility as President; national security. It’s beginning to dawn on folks that governance, common sense and the predilection to do the right thing has taken a back seat to goal of demolishing political opposition. I believe a significant majority of Americans will continue to reject this idea, proving that average citizens maintain the ability to apply common sense even if the President does not.

While not a Presidential historian, nothing comes to mind in terms of a President proactively setting out to cause unnecessary pain for the singular purpose of proving he was right. After all, he, his administration and supporters spent a month crying, ‘Wolf, Wolf’! Much of what they said has been disproven. Americans are asking themselves if they have ever witnessed a more significant example of political narcissism in the White House?

Whatever the point of negotiation may, be the President’s position is always the same; more taxes; taxes on guns, taxes on ammunition, taxes on carbon, taxes on business, taxes on the successful, always more, always the same approach. The simple fact that 10% of Americans pay 80% of federal income taxes has no bearing on the President’s thinking; more, more, more. Proposals for grand bargain reforms are rejected out of hand.

The economy still demonstrates the weakest post recession recovery since FDR. Trillion dollar deficits for as far as the eye can see. The President’s Foreign policy has created a multiplicity of crises waiting to happen, many funded with American dollars.

There appears to be no possibility that effective governance or concern for his citizens will overwhelm the President’s political goals.

  • Bill Hedges

    “Some readers took me to task”.

    “Really” ?!? I AM the “readers” that wrote the “task”. Still AM.

    DID *** popularity *** go down from RECENT all time high ??? When his JOB PERFORMANCE numbers were at the bottom of the sea FOR SOME TIME. You talk POPULARITY in previious comment. STOP the COVER UP of your mistake. buma was re-elected on his popularity, NOT HIS poor job preforance.

    IN PREVIOUS article you made a mistake. Which I pointed out and now you want TO SWEEZE justification for yourself once again. As you TRIED in your, unusual, comments directed toward me.
    ____________

    You were taking oranges (JOB PERFORMANCE) and saying his apples (popularity) WERE ROTTEN. I CORRECTED __ Y O U ___, pointing out HOW WRONG YOU WERE. His popularity at time of the PREVIOUS article was at THE TOP. Your conclusion…. WRONG…

    You were using JOB APPROVAL & POPULARITY interchangeably. Which they ARE NOT. At time of that article you spoke of his JOB APPROVAL was LOW as well as hiss POPULARITY.
    ___________

    YES, in the past, general speaking, the two are JOINED AT THE HIP. I say that without any research. We have the exceptions with Bill Clinton & buma. 2010 votes took their
    aggression out on the nation destroying buma polices passed like bumacare. But the slide of hand artist got his followings to COME AGAIN to shower a second term upon HIM. BUT, but, but the glow was NOT SO bright for the mortal demos.

    I think my argument was CLEAR in previous article. ONLY YOU KNOW if you GOT IT in what I SAID. NUMBERS go UP & they GO DOWN. For the chosen ONE HIS ACTIONS didn’t affect the glitter his worshipers saw when they cast their eyes upon him in ALL HIS GLORY. Has the BAD DEEDS of bumaland created too much pressure forcing all to crumble ? Has something RECENTLY caused his fame to falter ? Been in the side street beat up BY TRUTH for his actions ?

    Like Superman when I was a kid, I’d waited for the next in the line of Superman comic books chapters to see if he LIVED after exposed to the green Kryptonite. He LIVED in each coming comic book edition didn’t he ? IS buma Superman. Will know MAYBE in next CHAPTER…

  • Bob

    First off most of us here can agree that to President Obama POLITICS TRUMPS EVERYTHING ELSE.He made it perfectly clear that he wants to as he said “Fundamentally Change America” and “The one thing that ties us all together is government”.

    We have written tons of articles and comments here and on other political sites as to his non-record both as a Senator and now as a President.After him being re-elected we on the right realized he has no more elections and nothing stopping him now except a republican House.In fact he has made it clear he feels he has a mandate now and he wants to break the republican party for years to come.So how does he do this……with his usual fear tactics using a sequester? No he is looking forward to 2014 when the next elections for the House take place.Winning back the House is crucial to his legacy of which he has little now. Oh!he’ll piss and moan about how this sequester is hurting people today but he’s really looking longterm down the road.From TODAY UNTIL THE ELECTION IN 2014 he will blame the “republicans sequester” for the unemployment rate going up,GDP going down,interest rates going up,and everything else.He will wipe the slate clean and DENY OWNERSHIP OF EVERYTHING NEGATIVE THUS FAR.If the sequester leads to a government shutdown all the better.As far as the Renewal of the Continueing Resolution by March 27 it benefits him.The Stephanies and “Julia’s” of the American public will eat it up.

    Since his re-election he has just proposed legislation and has his minions voice support for it without much effort about passing it.Once he gets the House in 2014 he can fast track his immigration,gun control,same sex marriage,cap and trade legislation and anything else through Congress.

    This “rope a dope” strategy is a win-win for the president he gets his legacy through passing every progressive program and he WEAKENS THE REPUBLICANS FOR YEARS TO COME.

    POLITICS TRUMPS EVERYTHING ELSE FOR THIS MAN !

  • Bob

    Every year hundreds of kids from around the country come to our nations Capital and visit the White House for Spring Break.Below is an article about a 6th grade class from St.Paul’s Lutheran school in Waverly Iowa.They started a “Facebook” page asking President Obama to re-instate the White House tours he stopped because of the sequester.The savings from stopping these tours is estimated to be $74,000.When asked by the press recently if the President intends to stop his golf outings there was no reply.

    MY QUESTION HERE IS WHY DOESN’T THE PRESIDENT USE THESE KIDS LIKE HE DID WITH THE KIDS DURING HIS GUN CONTROL DEBATE?…..THE SHOE IS ON THE OTHER FOOT NOW ISN’T IT MR.PRESIDENT?

    http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2013/03/07/The-White-House-Is-Our-House-Sixth-Graders-Start-Facebook-Begging-WH-Not-To-Cancel-Their-Tour?utm_source=BreitbartNews&utm_medium=facebook

  • Bob

    IF THIS DOESN’T DEMONSTRATE THE HYPOCRISCY OF THE LEFT WANTING PEOPLE TO BE DEPENDENT ON THE GOVERNMENT NOTHING DOES:

    A new report released this month by the “Coalition for the Homeless” states that New York City has a new record for people sleeping in homeless shelters at 50,000 per night.This number supposedly includes 21,000 children.

    In a related story (see below) Mayor Michael Bloomberg announced that the city of New York WILL NOT ACCEPT DONATIONS OF FOOD FOR THE HOMELESS DUE TO THE FACT THAT THEY CANNOT REGULATE THE AMOUNT OF SALT AND FAT CONTENT IN THESE DONATIONS.

    http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/03/19/bloomberg-strikes-again-nyc-bans-food-donations-to-the-homeless/

  • Bob

    Opppps! ……..I forgot to include link for my first statement above.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/03/05/NYC-Smashes-Homelessness-Record

  • Bob

    Meanwhile in ANOTHER RELATED ARTICLE entitled “80% OF New York City Grads Entering City College Don’t Have Basic Skills” it’s obvious Mayor Bloomberg should be worrying about the things that count.Now being from NYC originally let me say the school system is very teacher union driven and having attended City College afterwards it isn’t the most demanding college system.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/03/07/NYC-80-percent-read

  • Bill Hedges

    Making the school system work would take a lot of work & step on a lot of UNION FEET. Being against salt intake & the like IS political correct for the demo eslit. A FALSE SENSE of CARING while DUCKING hard issues needing serious solutions.

    Better to LOOK GOOD than FEEL GOOD. ONE must appear doing THEIR JOB as the swimmer goes under for the third & final time…

  • Bob

    “It’s the peoples house,it’s a place thats steeped in history,but it’s a place where everyone should feel welcome.And that’s why my husband and I have made it our mission to open up the house to as many people as we can.”……….First Lady Michelle Obama

    Now austerity may be the word of the week but the current annual cost of the WHITE HOUSE HOUSEHOLD EXPENSES NOT POLICY OPERATIONS IS $1.4 BILLION DOLLARS.See the article below for more facts on the cost.

    My question here is when the President deems that the tours are to expensive @$74,000 per week does Mrs.Obama’s quote above exempt those that want to buy political access to the President?

    http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/342494/living-large-obama-white-house-charles-c-w-cooke

  • Bob
  • Bob

    please disregard wrong cartoon………..my apologies!

  • Bill Hedges

    OBVIOUSLY is a political plow that only a starry eyed bum-bum supporter could miss. Is the PEOPLE’S HOUSE, to lock the doors in the scheme of things, is saving PENNYS. Bill Clinton had the savvy to cancel vacation IN HARD TIMES. A jester of lead by example:

    “Expensive massages, top shelf vodka and five-star hotels: First Lady accused of spending $10m in public money on her vacations.”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2029615/Michelle-Obama-accused-spending-10m-public-money-vacations.html#ixzz2NAsoMT92

    WHY would “political access to the President” be tied to public assess to tours ? Apple to oranges comparison. “Political access to the President” is heart & soul of campaign contribution. Shutting down tours is attacking Republican economic stewardship in childish behavior. Bills gathering dust in Senate chamber passed by our house, attempted to solve economic mess. Demos fiddle with tiddlywinks…

  • Bob

    One could also point out that your article about “expensive massages,top shelf vodka and five star hotels” is irreverent due to the fact that it’s DATED 24 AUGUST 2011.

  • Bill Hedges

    I didn’t know money trouble was a recent event for government. Could say recession was worse “24 AUGUST 2011″…

    Is this THE BEST you can say against my comments ???

  • Bob

    “THERE’S IS NO BUSH BAGGAGE”……….Jeb Bush

    LMAO…..I suggest he get in touch with “Tokyo Rove” and see if there is any baggage!….READ THE COMMENTS BELOW THE ARTICLE ALSO

    http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2013/03/10/Jeb-Bush-There-Is-No-Bush-Baggage

  • Bill Hedges

    Gee, “READ THE COMMENTS BELOW THE ARTICLE ALSO”. Too afraid to say it himself.

    Bob gets caught with his pants DOWN & changes subject to BUSH. Dragging his name into discussion NOW. Bob should BE PROUD of his New York FINE EDUCATION !!!

    Better than Bob’s normal vulgarity. WILL give you that. I follow in HIS FOOTSTEPS and Bob’s screams. What a guy ???!!! Memory SO incredible.

    Providing comments to an article as SOME KIND OF what ? Evidence ? Why not go downtown and quote winos ???

    What DID YOU PROVE ??? Fluff on a Sunday…

  • Bill Hedges

    Where are the Rove quotes making WHATEVER point you are.

  • Bill Hedges

    Name calling, “Tokyo Rove”. is Bob’s way of PROVING SOMETHING ??? Proves kindergarten behavior is about it. Adults quote, with link, then disprove OR PROVES his assertions. Bob can’t do THAT ???

    Just shoots his mouth off with insults….

  • Bob

    Hmmm….It seems my “kindergarden behavior” of refering to Karl Rove as “Tokyo Rove” can’t be tolerated by the establishment republicans here while they can refer to the President as “Obuma”.

    I’ve been writing my opinion about the RINO Bush family for a while now…….I haven’t hid anything.That said Jeb Bush is going to need these “wino’s” from the right-wing site Breitbart that the establishment republican has so little respect of if not to buy the nomination then to win the election……and by reading the comments it’s obvious he doesn’t come close to having them.The example of the biggest contrast between the establishment republicans and the “wacko birds” as Sen.McCain refered to us is the establishment republicans having dinner with the President WHILE SEN.RAND PAUL made his stand in the Capital.

    We went through the Rove/Bush discussion numerous times and there is no need to go that route again.As far as my “vulgarity” you will have to point it out to me because “my fine New York education” can’t seem to locate one instance that it occurred.But then again you have hallucinated that President Bush and “Tokyo Rove” were Conservatives.

  • Bill Hedges

    I GaVE my data why I call him buma. You give none for “Tokyo Rove”. Is why I asked for.

    Name calling is your speciality. Proving is your short-coming.

    I listed your vulgarity many times in the past. Shall I start posting again ? No problem doing.

    You stated how great New York school system was, IS.

    You think you can speak for Nate. NOT what Nate said…

  • Bill Hedges

    “and by reading the comments it’s obvious he doesn’t come close to having them”

    You believe comments found on a article. I’ll never call you WISE…

  • Bill Hedges

    “you have hallucinated that President Bush and “Tokyo Rove” were Conservatives”

    Both Bush’s were re-elected many times in their States. Bush in TX had surplus.

    As President he had 911, wars, recession which he warned of, and tax cuts that increased government revenue even with recession. Yes G. Bush is conservative. His record in Texas proves it.

    Circumstance caused the heavy spending in DC.

    Karl is conservative. PROVE HIM NOT. PROVE G. BUSH NOT…

  • Bill Hedges

    “We went through the Rove/Bush discussion numerous times and there is no need to go that route again”

    You loss in each encounter. Can’t blame you for NOT WANTING to look foolish again. Don’t bring up Karl or Bush into the discussion if the heat melts your story. You started it. Can’t finish it…

  • Bob

    I have given my scenario on what the intentions of the President is (see my post 7th March @8:32PM).It would be niave to believe that he invited the republican leadership for dinner to talk policy when the real intention was to “divide and conquer” the party by keeping them off the hill while Sen.Paul was giving his speech.HAS ANYTHING OF SUBSTANCE RESULTED FROM HIS DINNER PARTY TO DISSUADE THIS OPINION? If the establishment republicans want to oblige him so much the better for him.

    LMAO…….By you declaring victory doesn’t necessarily make it so!

  • Bill Hedges

    1. ROVE YOUR STATEMENT

    “you have hallucinated that President Bush and “Tokyo Rove” were Conservatives”

    2. Quote in this article where:

    “LMAO…….By you declaring victory doesn’t necessarily make it so!”

  • Bill Hedges

    Not ROVE but PROVE…

  • Bill Hedges

    Notice how Bob reverts back to TALKING ABOUT buma when his discuusion on Rove & Bush BURNS HIS FINGERS…

    Don’t forget:

    1. PROVE YOUR STATEMENT

    “you have hallucinated that President Bush and “Tokyo Rove” were Conservatives”

    2. Quote in this article where:

    “LMAO…….By you declaring victory doesn’t necessarily make it so!”

  • Bob

    As I said we went over this Bush/Rove thing again and again and like President Bush saying “Mission Accompished” you think by saying you “won” can make it believable.Reality doesn’t work that way but you specialize in hallucinating.

  • Bob

    As I said earlier today the object of this “dinner’ with republicans this past week wasn’t to end the sequester but to “divide and conquer”.”This wasn’t a negotiation said Sen.Ron Johnson (r-WIS)who was at the dinner……”In the article below the President continues to try to circumvent party leaders by contacting individual republican politicians.So far to no avail….stay tuned!

    http://www.politico.com/story/2013/03/gop-senators-not-eager-to-buck-their-leaders-88671.html?hp=l9

  • Bill Hedges

    QUOTE ON THIS ARTICLE WHERE I CLAIMED I WON. You left that out. Hummm. Is it contained with your evidence proving your case against Karl & George ?

    You change subject from buma to Bush-Rove now back again to buma.Your fingers get burned so you try to cool them off. You speak of mythical proof concerning Karl & George. I remember tearing your points to confetti. You’ll repeat UNTRUTH. You can’t even recall YOUR NAUGHTLY LIST I posted here multiply times.

    You said NY education WAS BAD. You certainly proved THAT. You also proved you can read Nate’s mind & speak for him. Nate admitted it ??? Disneyland needs you or better yet the boardwalk.

    Change subject again Bob…

  • Bill Hedges

    FYI

    Your evidence against Karl & George doesn’t amount to enough turd to see.

    So Karl doesn’t want to waste his collected money on Todd from Missouri who is a nut case & not electable. Your argument against Bush sinks when considering 911, recession, and wars. You hung your hat on head start and pill plan. A minor $$$ expense.

    Good thing you did not bring up TARP. That would have put you in a pine box 6 foot under. Back fire injured your hearing. Just maybe you know THE REST OF THE STORY on TARP. I was for TARP here when TARP was just a idea and not passed…

  • Bill Hedges

    Don’t blame Bush for all of Head Start short-comings. Bush wanted testing twice a year. Demos took their toll on Johnston’s program…

    “President Bush and some GOP leaders in Congress initially envisioned a very different direction for the 42-year-old program, which serves more than 900,000 children nationwide. They wanted to create a block-grant pilot project that would have shifted much of the authority over Head Start program funds to the states. They also sought to permit faith-based agencies running Head Start programs to take Head Start job applicants’ religion into account. Those ideas were ultimately rejected in Congress.”

    “President Bush sought to put his stamp on the program even before he made it to the White House. As a candidate in 2000, he floated a proposal to move the Head Start program from the Department of Health and Human Services to the Department of Education. The president proposed the first steps toward that in a budget request, but the idea never went very far in Congress.”

    http://web.ebscohost.com/ehost/detail?sid=71af23ca-b6c3-4049-a8e3-722e2ea1c18a%40sessionmgr115&vid=1&hid=120&bdata=JnNpdGU9ZWhvc3QtbGl2ZQ%3d%3d#db=f5h&AN=27817367

  • Bob

    “The Establishment republicans”

    http://patriotpost.us/cartoons/17135

  • Bill Hedges

    Cartoon Bobby is so silly. Long before Bush entered WH:

    http://www.davidstuff.com/political/wmdquotes.htm

    What’s that button on Bush ?

    Tell me what Nate thinks of this mind reader.

    Landreaux likes to say “Really ?!?!”

    Better for you to post silly cartoons than answer “Bill Hedges Mar 11th, 2013 at 7:43 pm”.

    Another CHANGE SUBJECT in Bob’s pre-school sand box…

  • Bill Hedges

    Correction

    What’s that button on Bush lover ?

    Like you, Thomas Jefferson believed in strick interpretation of Constitution. He talked to others trying to justify LA Purchase. What is or isn’t Constitutional changes, depending on the make-up of the Supreme Court and if bills are taken all the way to Supreme Court. Packing Supreme Court has occurred.

    Both Republicans & demos interrupts the Constitution. As Supreme Court does. Slave early on were not human beings.

    Bob IS man without a country…

  • Bob

    Landreaux:

    Getting back to your original point about the Presidents approval rating it seems to have taken a hit worldwide also. In a new Gallup poll the image of the United States is DOWN 8% FROM 49% TO 41% worldwide.It did go up 11% in Mexico however and this is based on the assumption we will legislate some kind of immigration reform in the near future.

    The article is entitled “World Poll:Image of U.S.Declines” and can be read below:

    http://www.politico.com/story/2013/03/world-poll-image-of-us-declines-88816.html?ml=po_r

  • Bob

    The article below tells how Democratic pollster Pat Caddell unloads on the republican party at CPAC.Hmmmm where did I hear some of these gripes before? Read it and tell me it isn’t the truth?

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/03/14/Caddell-Blows-the-Lid-Off-CPAC-With-Blistering-Attack-on-Racketeering-Republican-Consultants

  • Bill Hedges

    Imagine, a demo helping us. TRUE LOVE… BEAT he loves Reagan for what he did to Carter too.

    I heard Elvis is STILL ALVE. Where are THESE illegal acts _sup·pos·ed·ly_ preformed being heard ? Within GOP or Courts? “Racketeering” & “Rico” are nasty accusations. Newt was charged and order to pay as Speaker of House, yet court cleared Newt of any tax wrong doing.

    These charges HAD THEIR EFFECT ?

    “RNC Chairman Reince Priebus Remarks From 2013 RNC Winter Meeting”

    January 25, 2013

    “Good afternoon. It’s an honor to be elected your Chairman for a second term. I am humbled by your trust and support—and to each of you, I say thank you.”

    http://www.gop.com/news/chairmans-blog/rnc-chairman-reince-priebus-remarks-from-2013-rnc-winter-meeting/

  • Bob

    BINGO! YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD!

  • Bill Hedges

    Yes a few see wrong doing as occurs with most things. Reince Priebus re-elected. “Racketeering” & “Rico” talked about by distractors , BUT few listen & D-E-F-I-N-I-T-E-L-Y
    NO CHARGES because there are no illegal acts.

  • Bob

    A while back I posted a number of articles about the RNC paying out large sums of money to a few consultant firms without any other firms being able to give a bid.These articles also mentioned that these consulting firms had a connection to the RNC leadership.THIS IS WHAT IS BEING REFERRED TO AS VIOLATING THE RICO ACT BY MR. CADDELL.And this is what got the CPAC audience electrified.

    RUSH LIMBAUGH had his own take on Mr.Caddell’s remarks on his show this afternoon.See the article below entitled “Rush Limbaugh Mocks Brianiac GOP Consultants Over Pat Caddell’s CPAC Rant”.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/03/15/Rush-Limbaugh-Caddell-Blew-Lid-Off-of-CPAC-with-Blistering-Attack-on-GOP-Consultants

  • Bill Hedges

    I have a excellent memory unlike yourself. I REMEMBER YOUR PAST on this. Reince Priebus re-elected. Few took your points seriously with re-election. You said most don’t get second term when WH is loss. He DID.

    Yes a few see wrong doing as occurs with most things. “Racketeering” & “Rico” talked about by distractors , BUT few listen & D-E-F-I-N-I-T-E-L-Y
    NO CHARGES because there are no illegal acts.

    Could of, should of HAPPENS. Having to do with strategy, etc…

  • Bob

    The point is this “CRONY republicanism” by the establishment of the party is being highlighted to the grass roots not only by myself but Democrat pollsters and Rush Limbaugh.And the grass roots are paying attention which means less money going out to phony cronies like “Tokyo Rove’s” group “Conservatives Victory Project”.A more electrified Conservative base.

    PUT YOUR SEATBELT ON THE ESTABLISHMENT republican PARTY IS IN FOR A BUMPY RIDE

  • Bill Hedges

    Let’s see point by point proof. Quotes and links…

  • Bill Hedges

    Reince Priebus re-elected. Few took your points seriously with re-election. You said most don’t get second term when WH is loss. He DID.

  • Bill Hedges

    Has “less money going out to phony cronies like “Tokyo Rove’s” group” happened ? Where is the numbers ? Bob wants Todd of MO representing TEA ?

  • Bob

    POINT BY POINT OF WHAT A BUMPY RIDE? This is just another one of your stall’s when you haven’t got any answer.

    You had a democrat bring the CPAC conference to it’s feet stating “Tea Party” principles,Tokyo rove was taken on the carpet by numerous members of the party, and Rush Limbaugh is preaching the same “crony capitalism” infects the republican party.

  • Bill Hedges

    No Proof. What I thought. Talk walks…

  • Bill Hedges

    Bob says NO to prove. I’m not Bob:

    “At CPAC, conservative activist slams Karl Rove”

    March 15, 2013

    “Rove’s recently-announced Conservative Victory Project to find more electable Republican candidates has struck many grassroots activists as arrogant, elitist, and out-of-touch. Rove’s work will come up in the Friday afternoon CPAC session when David Bossie, head of Citizens United, includes this passage in his speech to the main gathering:”

    “Calling it the Conservative Victory Project is like Mitt Romney calling himself severely conservative. Why do Karl Rove and company think they have a monopoly on wanting to win? We all want to win. And why does Karl Rove need to create a new organization with the name conservative in it? Because American Crossroads failed in 2012.”

    http://washingtonexaminer.com/at-cpac-conservative-activist-slams-karl-rove/article/2524480

    Cutting out the PUT DOWNS, we have understanding:

    “We all want to win. And why does Karl Rove need to create a new organization with the name conservative in it?” “New organization” seems to take away from CPAC steam power…

  • Bill Hedges

    CPAC is BOB…

    “Rand Paul, Rock Star: Libertarians Run the Show at CPAC”

    “Ideological ornithologists Sens. John McCain and Lindsey Graham would be disappointed to find a rather large population of “wacko birds” in the CPAC hall and the once ascendant neoconservative movement barely represented. After Paul’s speech, CPAC convened a panel on Benghazi, the conference’s only talk with an explicitly neoconservative bent, and the hall emptied of young activists.”

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/03/15/rand-paul-rock-star-libertarians-run-the-show-at-cpac.html

  • Bob

    Your to stupid to recognize I wasn’t afraid to provide proof I was simply ignoring you.

    I supplied links where a Democrat brought up the same gripes I had when I posted the articles about the RNC crony capitalism a while back.He spoke about the RNC chief of staff making inside deals,the RNC whitewash paper “Growth and Opportunity” telling whats wrong with the party,not to read to much into the republicans keeping the House during the 2012 election,the republicans letting President Obama define republicans,consultants being picked by donors,2010 victory was by the Tea Party and not the republican party and crony establishment members decide who is to run for office and not the grass root members.(read “Tokyo Rove”and his Conservative Victory Project which was attacked by numerous republicans).

    All this and I supply a link where Rush Limbaugh says he agrees with the Democrat who made the speech at CPAC and then he expects me to provide proof? …..LMAO It seems to me he is the one who should be providing proof instead of just a mere waving of the hand.

  • Bill Hedges

    Our 2010 win was off-year for WH. PROV

    VE was because of TEA. You say things with no proof.

    Don’t see the point by point proof. With quotes and links.

    Rationalization:

    “Your to stupid to recognize I wasn’t afraid to provide proof I was simply ignoring you.”

    Bill Hedges Mar 15th, 2013 at 8:14 pm
    Let’s see point by point proof. Quotes and links…
    avatar

    Bill Hedges Mar 15th, 2013 at 8:17 pm
    Reince Priebus re-elected. Few took your points seriously with re-election. You said most don’t get second term when WH is loss. He DID.
    avatar

    Bill Hedges Mar 15th, 2013 at 8:20 pm
    Has “less money going out to phony cronies like “Tokyo Rove’s” group” happened ? Where is the numbers ? Bob wants Todd of MO representing TEA ?

  • Bob

    If I had to make a choice YES “I STAND WITH RAND” AND THE “WACKO BIRDS” over the crusty corrupt RINO’s you align yourself with.Not only Rand but Cruz,Ryan,Rubio,Jandal,Cuccenelli and any other young conservative who believes in limited government as outlined in the Constitution.They are and will be the power behind steering this country out of this mess the RINO’s are only to happy to continue.

  • Bill Hedges

    INSULT

    “to stupid “. WHO IS “STUPID”. SHOULD be TOO STUPID..

  • Bill Hedges

    Bush was small government caught up in War, recession, and 911. None caused by him.

    Saying about me, “crusty corrupt RINO’s you align yourself with” makes you a ignorant ASS HOLE. YOU SPOKE FOR NATE and Nate said you were wrong. You speak for me and you are way OFF BASE.

    your naughty list is about 13 long. Mine I guess 3-4. I can’t say I can discuss with you without adding to my list.

    Future looks like more avoidance of your nonsense…

  • Bob

    Oh yeah and most of all I’m proud to also align myself with Rush Limbaugh who us on the right owe so much of our political principles to.

    And we will fight you RINO’s for control of the party with everything we have.

  • Bill Hedges

    Bush was small government caught up in War, recession, and 911. None caused by him.

    Saying about me, “crusty corrupt RINO’s you align yourself with” makes you a ignorant ASS HOLE. YOU SPOKE FOR NATE and Nate said you were wrong. You speak for me and you are way OFF BASE.

    your naughty list is about 13 long. Mine I guess 3-4. I can’t say I can discuss with you without adding to my list.

    Future looks like more avoidance of your nonsense…

  • Bob

    I wasn’t going to bring it up but since you insist on spelling and grammer and my fine NY education can form a more coherent sentence than the jibberish the Missouri school system can.(see your post of 11th March @11:16PM)

    I also refer you to your post of 11th March @11:16PM where you state the Supreme Court “interrupts the Constitution” instead of interprets.

    Then there is this gem from your post the 10th of March @4:46PM where you state Obviously a “political plow” now they may dig up the ground but the correct term is “political ploy”

    But all you have to do you feel is declare victory (see your post 11th March @11:11AM)and the question is settled SORT OF LIKE YOUR BOY PRESIDENT BUSH DECLARING “MISSION ACCOMPLISHED”

    And grow up that childish “naughty list”

  • Bill Hedges

    What is Nate thinking THIS VERY MOMENT ???

  • Bill Hedges

    “I wasn’t going to bring it up but since you insist on spelling and grammer “… Yes you have. Is not “grammer” but grammar…

  • Bob

    Psssst…….You forgot to declare victory in your 11:41PM post

    LMAO !

  • Bill Hedges

    Don’t need to.

    What is Nate thinking THIS VERY MOMENT ???

  • Bob

    “Rejecting Responsibility” is the perfect title for this.

    During his speech Jeb Bush compares the republican party to a “mullet” because they are the party in the back.Well Jeb I was thinking of the republican party being another part of the anatomy which is about two feet lower in the back and your family had a big part in getting republicans there.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2013/03/16/eb-Bush-compares-GOP-to-mullets

  • Bill Hedges

    CHANGE OF SUBJECT… AGAIN…

    Anybody, like you, that can read SO MANY minds, need no other to have communications with.HOWEVER.

    Bob writes “And we will fight you RINO’s for control of the party with everything we have”. With the 11 LESS Tea from recent election ? Lower approval rating because of un·yield·ing TEA stances. I am TEA but NEWT accomplished much THROUGH compromise. TEA in Congress is not growing but stinking up possible changes causing loss of support in DC & polls.

    Am sure I have not mentioned every time to changed subjects on this article. Political trouble for your remarks means run from present talk face moving on.

    Bob has rejected real life reality. Article is about buma. Not Republican. Not Jeb. Bob is clawing at the wind to make his points. Forget substance. You tried to put George down & did a miserable job. Was time to continue Head Start and this was your point against Bush. Bush did NOT GET THE CHANGES he wanted. Like testing which could measure success of the old program going back to LBJ. You stayed completely away from the BIG TICKET ITEMS such as 911, recession, TARP & war. Plan D you spoke of. Program with cost spread out OVER drug companies. REASON was not Bush’s fault. The mountain came to Bush. Bill Clinton played patty cake with his Twin Tower and many a terrorist attacks. Took Bush to protect & serve.

    Your position recently was YOU HAVE DISCUSSED IT. NO NEED FOR MORE. No need for more ? Your opinion bit the dust & you didn’t like the taste. You make your Bush CUTS with NO substantiating evidence. Just blow-heart insults. Firing blanks. I SO WANTED YOU to bring up TARP. A MULLET would not describe you after THE NUMBERS came to light. Point being your Bush stance sucks and doesn’t stand up to scrutiny…

  • Bill Hedges

    Cut the “s” on attacks…

  • Bob

    “Lower approval ratings because of unyeilding stances”???????

    I don’t know where you got this from except maybe an “E” mail from RNC chairmen or the RINO hero John McCain.It’s funny McCain can call us “Wacko birds” but he refused to say anything bad about President Obama when he ran against him.”Low approval ratings”??? Rand Paul won the straw poll at the CPAC meeting.(ses below).In fact the only RINO to get votes was Christie and Jeb? Well ol’e Jeb got only a mild applause.

    The last time we went through this I listed all the spending Bush did and left out ANYTHING RELATED TO 9/11 but you tried pinning it all on the attack.I’m tired of going throught this arguement where you stall and try to tire people out by wanting to see proof everytime but refuse to answer it.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/03/14/Ron-Paul-Casts-No-Shadow-over-Rand-at-CPAC

  • Bob

    Below is an article I included in our discussion last time covering the Bush Presidency BUT YOU CONVIENTLY IGNORED ENTITLED “Missing Bush?….Republican Revisionary History”.

    http://howardrich.org/?p=1336

  • Bill Hedges

    Bob you ignore nearly every point I PROVE. I’LL answer every bit of your last link if you will answer all that I write about that link. I never run away from a Bush fight. I wait FOR YOUR WORD…

    Tea down 11. Congress appoval bad. If I quoted McCain I would give quote & link:

    After recent revelation by Bob, I tend to believe THIS is Bob’s kind of article:

    “Anger Over Fiscal-Cliff Deal Fires Up Tea Party”

    Jan 3, 2013

    “Word had it that the Tea Party was on the decline, but the Republican cave on taxes is galvanizing furious grassroots members, who are vowing to root out recalcitrant GOP lawmakers in 2014—a year they say will make the 2010 wave look like a ripple.”

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/01/03/anger-over-fiscal-cliff-deal-fires-up-tea-party.html

    TEA won 2010 ? Why not 2012 ? I have been purposing why. Sadly is not TEA. TEA’s iron clad OUR WAY MUST BE TURNS OFF compromise. 2010 happened because demo passed bills POLLS HATED. BUMA’S army voted 2012.

  • Bill Hedges

    I DID ANSWER your last link. Parts I missed POINT IT OUT with quotes.

    Momeland securiity & wiretapes SAVED AMERICAN LIVES. FEEL free to bring up Plan D & TARP. Whatever…

    I’LL be around about a hour…

  • Bill Hedges

    Homeland

  • Bob

    Below is a link to the thread on this site entitled “The Leadership Cliff’ where I gave links to the crony capitalism I referred to about the RNC giving contracts out without any other bids and giving them to cronies of the RNC LEADERSHIP.This was what Mr.Caddell referred to (my 15 March @4:22PM post )and Rush Limbaugh supported (my 15 March @7:38PM post)

    Our Mr.Hedges waved it off at the time using the re-election of the chairman and the 2010 election as evidence.

    http://www.youdecidepolitics.com/2012/12/05/the-leadership-cliff/

  • Bill Hedges

    Also WHAT WAS ILLEGAL done. Don’t forget that.

    I want quotes not your slant on what I say..

  • Bob

    I’m not only going back to where we had the discussion about the RNC but about President Bush and will include that link also.So”I’ll be around for about an hour” is about the time I come up with the link and Mr.Hedges splits……Hmmmmm?

  • Bill Hedges

    Haven’t seen Rush’s quotes. Mr.Caddell.

    You are so FULL OF SHIT:

    “The last time we went through this I listed all the spending Bush did and left out ANYTHING RELATED TO 9/11 but you tried pinning it all on the attack.I’m tired of going throught this arguement where you stall and try to tire people out by wanting to see proof everytime but refuse to answer it.”

    I PROVDE quotes with links. You give JUST LINK. I tire of your lazy ways…

  • Bill Hedges

    You do as I ask and I will stay.

  • Bill Hedges

    911, recession, wars, etc can not be left out. Cause big government NEED for Bush. Without not the big spending…

  • Bill Hedges

    “I’m not only going back to where we had the discussion about the RNC but about President Bush and will include that link also.So”I’ll be around for about an hour” is about the time I come up with the link and Mr.Hedges splits……Hmmmmm?”

    Not good enough. Point 1. Point 2. Etc.. If you think TARP was BIG GOVERNMENT say it. Make your case was Bush fault. Include link.

    No___Here is link & that’s IT.

    So I knew you were going to do this so I said I would stay only a hout ? You can read people MINDS. NOT I. I will stay for real political discussion NOT horse dodo…

  • Bill Hedges

    hour

  • Bob

    Now when the proof is before your eyes “giving links is a lazy way”?????..LMAO you were the one who DEMANDED WE GIVE LINKS.YOU EVEN COMPLAINED TO THE MODERATOR OF THIS SITE DEMANDING THAT THEY BE GIVEN.

    Well here is a link you can go through from “Human Events’ entitled “Gingrich:Why Rove and Stevens are Plain Wrong” It’s even from one republican who you hold in high esteem…Mr.Gingrich

    http://www.humanevents.com/2013/02/20/gingrich-why-karl-rove-is-just-plain-wrong/

    The links will be up there weather you come back to face them or not AND THE PEOPLE OF THIS SITE WILL BE ABLE TO SEE HOW YOU ADVOIDED ANSWERING THE ISSUES i CONFRONTED YOU WITH.

  • Bill Hedges

    “Now when the proof is before your eyes “giving links is a lazy way”?????..”

    YES. CHECK-OUT:

    Bill Hedges Mar 15th, 2013 at 9:58 pm

    I GAVE points and links. You did not give Rush’s quote for example. I don’t want you explaining Rush without. I don’t trust your explaination of MY WORDS.

    I ANSWERED POINTS concerning Bush. If you quote IT WILL be there. WHY I doubt you will do. I CALL YOUR BLUFF. You always change subject AND RUN. HOW MANY TIMES in this article ? Many…

  • Bill Hedges

    “Well here is a link you can go through”

    NO. Hell No. I said I would stay longer than hour for:

    “I’m not only going back to where we had the discussion about the RNC but about President Bush and will include that link also.So”I’ll be around for about an hour” is about the time I come up with the link and Mr.Hedges splits……Hmmmmm?”

    AGAIN. You change subject.

    I’ll stay 10 minutes. If you tell me you are HONORING YOUR PROMISE i’LL STICK AROUND.

    NEWT is another day. I knew you would CHICKEN OUT…

  • Bill Hedges

    Do your work. NOT:

    “Well here is a link you can go through”

  • Bill Hedges

    “I’m not only going back to where we had the discussion about the RNC but about President Bush and will include that link also.So”I’ll be around for about an hour” is about the time I come up with the link and Mr.Hedges splits……Hmmmmm?”

    I waited. YOU DID NOT DO. You did not confirm was going to do. Instead I get:

    “Well here is a link you can go through”

    You’ll spend minute finding link. Want me to spend MUCH TIME responding to that link. THAT IS LAZY.

    THEN you PISS OUT another link and write:

    “The links will be up there weather you come back to face them or not AND THE PEOPLE OF THIS SITE WILL BE ABLE TO SEE HOW YOU ADVOIDED ANSWERING THE ISSUES i CONFRONTED YOU WITH.”

    Other than us, the rest want to sell products on this site. News & report had articles sometime with hundreds of comments. After elections they die out. 20 if lucky.

    I am to bite with new link.Well am waiting for:

    “I’m not only going back to where we had the discussion about the RNC but about President Bush and will include that link also.So”I’ll be around for about an hour” is about the time I come up with the link and Mr.Hedges splits……Hmmmmm?”

    But you want to JUMP & RUN from that. THIS CAME BEFORE your latest link. Run, Bob run.

    You caught up then I get into your latest links when you make the points. Don’t do naked links…

    SIGNING OFF…

  • Bob

    “CHICKEN OUT” NOT ON YOUR LIFE SUNSHINE!

    Below is a link to the thread on this site entitled “The Difference Is……”in which we had had the discussion about President Bush.The people can read it for themselves without us going through another 100 comments and this way YOU CAN’T SAY ANYTHING WAS TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT.PLEASE NOTE I MADE A SPECIAL EFFORT IN MY POST AND THE LINKS I INCLUDED TO AVOID ANY SPENDING THE PRESIDENT DID IN REGARD TO 9/11.

    http://www.youdecidepolitics.com/2013/02/13/the-difference-is/#comments

  • Bill Hedges

    So a hour was not enough time to write your latest comment ?

    911 was Bush. Caused the BIG GOVERNMENT. Along with TARP, Wars, recession, etc..

    Here is how I answer your points. Expect such from you NOT JUST A LINK. NO lazy Bob:

    Bill Hedges Feb 19th, 2013 at 11:44 pm

    1. “A series of large White House backed spending projects the 2002 Farm Bill,No Child Left Behind,and Medicare Part D alienated the conservative brain trust and power base……and the grevous pet projects symbolized by Sen.Ted Stevens$320 million dollar “Bridge to Nowhere’went unchecked by the president the grass roots became infuriated.”

    A. What was the cost for the first part ? Why are they BAD ? ENLARGING isn’t BAD for GOOD CAUSE (example Homeland security). Bush came up with the DRUG PLAN. In my case, in second stage, the drug company REDUCES cost of my insulin. No cost to government.Vast majority of the pills I use I pay for myself because is cheaper than through medicare. What medicare SAYS IS COST doesn’t equate to REAL COST government actual PAYS. Certain big wholesalers have say $10 for 90 day supple of certain drugs. Through medicare MUCH HIGHER. I buy only 2 things on my medicare card part D.

    We get a certain amount each year for drugs. Reduce that amount by real amount the government pays for drug, not the retail price. I’ll GUESS near half is NOT SPENT by government for this program. IS GREAT BENEFIT for those on fixed income. I CALL THAT GREAT.

    Unlike what some Congress members say, I don’t quickly spend what was contributed to my social security. My contribution WAS BUT A PART of total. There is employer matched amount PLUS, as social security says, interest IS collected until day principle is finally ALL GONE if that happens.

    B. You are AGAINST “No Child Left Behind” ??????? BIG GOVERNMENT BUSH. Bush got awards for helping HIV in Africa. You against that AS WELL ? This isn’t the same as us wanting to un-fund abortion in clinics. I’ll just say $$$’s spent for “No Child Left Behind” MAKES TAXES later on. Big saving giving a more prosperous future and EVEN BIGGER savings if it cuts jail population. Ignoring better life for the individual & less victim assaults. Can’t believe you added “No Child Left Behind”. A minor cost for major rewards.

    C. Now “spending projects the 2002 Farm Bill”

    At one time, maybe still, Ted Turner was one of the biggest receivers of money from this program. Besides him once married to Viet Nam Jane, money wasn’t meant for people like him. Super rich.

    You want to GET RID of this OVERALL good program. Wasn’t THUNK UP by Bush. EVEN IF HE WANTED, he has no line item veto. You, as President, would veto this bill ? Has ANYBODY vetoed ?

    D. “grevous pet projects symbolized by Sen.Ted Stevens$320 million dollar “Bridge to Nowhere’”

    You are blaming Bush & his people ? This was D.C. NORM.

    PORK was politics as usual UP TO BUSH. CHANGED under buma. BLAMING Bush for this IS unacceptable & NOT ALLOWED. Without line item veto, he must sign a good bill with PORK additives or veto. BE IT NOTED, a finance bill for war WAS vetoed. Bush warned & so much wasteful PORK WAS included it turned Bush’s stomach.

    2. “To round out the circle the government has hamstrung it’s own ability to keep track of spending by starving it’s watchdog,the Inspector General of resources and personnel.”

    Ah, THIS is making SMALLER GOVERNMET. You are complaining “big government Bush”

    O K… buma certainly want FULL strength here.

    Here is A VERY LIBERAL article. Can think 180 degree opposite of what’s is in article:

    http://www.foxriverwatch……ecord.html

    buma IS using, trying to dry up, American own oil… Drill baby Drill anywhere but HERE. Make us buy higher overseas. Our local coal and shale oil FORGET ABOUT IT. Raise, raise, raise cost of utilities & everything that requires energy to make & transport to the consumer…

  • Bob

    Psst…….WE WENT OVER ALL THIS ALREADY THATS WHY I GAVE THE THREADS SO YOU COULDN’T SAY IT WAS TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT.(YES I HAVE TO SCREAM IT BECAUSE YOU’RE TOO DUMB OTHERWISE)There is no need to go over this for another 100 comments.

    You asked for proof of my positions (WITH LINKS)so I provided it.

  • Bill Hedges

    Your points are mainly MINOR $$$’s. TAKE away spending on 911, TARP, wars, and recession WITH BUSH TAX CUTS increasing revenue, WE would not be discussing Bush & Big Government in same breathe…

  • Bob

    AH YES !………THE WAVE OF THE HAND ANSWER YOU MADE FAMOUS.

    It seems the links I provided don’t agree with you.

  • Bill Hedges

    Your points are mainly MINOR $$$’s. TAKE away spending on 911, TARP, wars, and recession WITH BUSH TAX CUTS increasing revenue, WE would not be discussing Bush & Big Government in same breathe…

    I stayed over for:

    “I’m not only going back to where we had the discussion about the RNC but about President Bush and will include that link also.So”I’ll be around for about an hour” is about the time I come up with the link and Mr.Hedges splits……Hmmmmm?”

    After this statement, I looked at no new links by you…

  • Bill Hedges

    Links must have points to answer. NOT:

    “Well here is a link you can go through”

    HOW MANY TIMES must I repeat…

  • Bill Hedges

    You are NOT SKIPPING OVER 911, recession, TARRP, and wars BECAUSE of your great love OF Bush ( THESE are $$$ multi trillion items).You are covering your position from those FACTS. YOU TRY TO DEMEAN MY ANSWER WITH “AH YES !………THE WAVE OF THE HAND ANSWER YOU MADE FAMOUS”. Well yes TRUTH is a wonderful defense.

    Bush tax cuts were raking in like .035 more revenue from rich. Bush warned of recession, TARP did not use all funds appropriated with most paid BACK with HIGH INTEREST in Bush’s share. DEMOS WERE WARNING of WMD long before Bush entered WH. This justifies Bush’s bigger government. Government # 1 job is protect the people.

    We don’t have to discuss this ANYMORE. AS LONG AS YOU DON’T SAY BUSH BIG GOVERNMENT without adding __ NOT HIS FAULT __.

    Honesty in what we say…

  • Bob

    From the RIGHT WING “WALL STREET JOURNAL”

    “BUSH WAS A BIG GOVERNMENT DISASTER”

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123275512887811775.html

  • Bill Hedges

    Look at

    “You are NOT SKIPPING OVER 911, recession, TARRP, and wars BECAUSE of your great love OF Bush ( THESE are $$$ multi trillion items).You are covering your position from those FACTS. YOU TRY TO DEMEAN MY ANSWER WITH “AH YES !………THE WAVE OF THE HAND ANSWER YOU MADE FAMOUS”. Well yes TRUTH is a wonderful defense.

    Bush tax cuts were raking in like .035 more revenue from rich. Bush warned of recession, TARP did not use all funds appropriated with most paid BACK with HIGH INTEREST in Bush’s share. DEMOS WERE WARNING of WMD long before Bush entered WH. This justifies Bush’s bigger government. Government # 1 job is protect the people.

    We don’t have to discuss this ANYMORE. AS LONG AS YOU DON’T SAY BUSH BIG GOVERNMENT without adding __ NOT HIS FAULT __.

    Honesty in what we say…”

    I don’t look at links without you making points and quotes. I don’t do:

    “Well here is a link you can go through”

  • Bill Hedges

    FYI

    Your article IS A JOKE. You won’t discuss 911 but you use link THAT DOES. Guy writing your article must be unaware of 911 & OTHER events in his terms. “BUSH WAS A BIG GOVERNMENT DISASTER” is misleading BULL:

    “Think for a moment about the thousands of Transportation Security Administration screeners — newly minted government employees all — who continue to confiscate contact-lens solution and nail clippers while, according to nearly every field test, somehow failing to notice simulated bombs in passenger luggage.”

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123275512887811775.html

    You are NOT SKIPPING OVER 911, recession, TARRP, and wars BECAUSE of your great love OF Bush ( THESE are $$$ multi trillion items).You are covering your position from those FACTS. YOU TRY TO DEMEAN MY ANSWER WITH “AH YES !………THE WAVE OF THE HAND ANSWER YOU MADE FAMOUS”. Well yes TRUTH is a wonderful defense.

    Bush tax cuts were raking in like .035 more revenue from rich. Bush warned of recession, TARP did not use all funds appropriated with most paid BACK with HIGH INTEREST in Bush’s share. DEMOS WERE WARNING of WMD long before Bush entered WH. This justifies Bush’s bigger government. Government # 1 job is protect the people.

    We don’t have to discuss this ANYMORE. AS LONG AS YOU DON’T SAY BUSH BIG GOVERNMENT without adding __ NOT HIS FAULT __.

    Honesty in what we say…

  • Bill Hedges

    How is Bush TO BLAME for actions taken at the airport ? Bush does not micro manage Transportation Security Administration screener.

    It takes A IDIOT author to write such non-sense in his article. Makes whole link material tainted & trash.

    Try another link Bob. Good luck in “Mission Impossible” defending your shaky stance…

  • Bob

    Will someone please remove the “KICK ME”sign from the republicans?

    http://www.investors.com/editorial-cartoons/michael-ramirez/648247-barack-obama-and-republicans

  • Bill Hedges

    Such a cute cartoon. Log jams make more sense. Must be enemies with the other side ? GOOD SHOW. THAT HELPS WHEN COMPROMISE IS NEEDED WHICH IS MOST OF TIME…

    Distract while changing subject. Actual BUSH BIG GOVERNMENT appears to be a subject NEAR & DEAR to Bob’s heart. He comes back to it. Bob’s can’t defend his position well simple because big ticket stuff WAS NOT HIS FAULT. Bob will hear that often.

    Thought LITTLE fault of his own Bush broke records in the spending department. Kind of funny in the other article, Bob talks about BRIDGE TO NOWHERE. PORK. SOMETHING TEA, after buma, wanted to stop. For bringing down Bush’s BIG GOVERNMENT, bridge to nowhere is like using a toothpick as bat when playing baseball. _In·sig·nif·i·cant _ $$$’s. Besides, besides, besides, That wasteful bridge was NOT BUSH’S idea. Bush DID NOT have line item veto. Practice HAS ALAWAYS BEEN to buy votes as wrong as it IS. Greasing palms for political support. Nick picking is great conversation I guess at a local bar. Big ticket items might cause fight.

    Bob has not taken pen in hand & brought up cost of Homeland security.We know its SAVED attacks & LIVES. HIS DIFFERENT articles bring up WIRETAPES without Court orders. A approved Court action. Bob’s latest article saying not finding fake bombs was Bush’s doing. *** Could not stop laughing ***. Bob called that article “RIGHT WING “WALL STREET JOURNAL” SO I would JUST BELIEVE ??? DOESN’T read “RIGHT” to me, but never mind, truth of article is WHAT MATTERS. This article SMELLED like old diaper in landfill.

    Distract while changing subject. Actual BUSH BIG GOVERNMENT appears to be a subject NEAR & DEAR to Bob’s heart. He comes back to it. Bob’s can’t defend his position well simple because big ticket stuff WAS NOT HIS FAULT. Bob will hear that often.

    Thought LITTLE fault of his own Bush broke records in the spending department. Kind of funny in the other article, Bob talks about BRIDGE TO NOWHERE. PORK. SOMETHING TEA, after buma, wanted to stop. For bringing down Bush’s BIG GOVERNMENT, bridge to nowhere is like using a toothpick as bat when playing baseball. _In·sig·nif·i·cant _ $$$’s. Besides, besides, besides, That wasteful bridge was NOT BUSH’S idea. Bush DID NOT have line item veto. Practice HAS ALAWAYS BEEN to buy votes as wrong as it IS. Greasing palms for political support. Nick picking is great conversation I guess at a local bar. Big ticket items might cause fight.

    Bob has not taken pen in hand & brought up cost of Homeland security.We know its SAVED attacks & LIVES. HIS DIFFERENT articles bring up WIRETAPES without Court orders. A approved Court action. Bob’s latest article saying not finding fake bombs was Bush’s doing. *** Could not stop laughing ***. Bob called that article “RIGHT WING “WALL STREET JOURNAL” SO I would JUST BELIEVE ??? DOESN’T read “RIGHT” to me, but never mind, truth of article is WHAT MATTERS. This article SMELLED like old diaper in landfill.

  • Bob

    Talking about diapers in an old landfill….Your writing is so incoherent you repeat yourself IN THE SAME POST and don’t even realize it.

    LINE ITEM VETO????? It seems President Bush DIDN’T HAVE A VETO PEN EITHER for the first five years either.I believe the article also mentions President Bush wasn’t forced to pass certain bills.But hey I’m nice compared to Ann Coulter at the CPAC meeting.In her speech on immigration reform she referred to Jeb and his brother as Shemp and Zippo Bush” which drew a round of applause from the audience.

    As the cartoon illustrates the republican party has had no plan over the past but simply surrender and IT’S NOT COMPROMISE BUT CAPITULATION.

  • Bill Hedges

    What did I say previous, oh yes:

    Bob’s can’t defend his position well simple because big ticket stuff WAS NOT HIS FAULT. Bob will hear that often.

    Such a cute cartoon. Log jams make more sense. Must be enemies with the other side ? GOOD SHOW. THAT HELPS WHEN COMPROMISE IS NEEDED WHICH IS MOST OF TIME…

    Distract while changing subject. Actual BUSH BIG GOVERNMENT appears to be a subject NEAR & DEAR to Bob’s heart. He comes back to it. Bob’s can’t defend his position well simple because big ticket stuff WAS NOT HIS FAULT. Bob will hear that often.

    Thought LITTLE fault of his own Bush broke records in the spending department. Kind of funny in the other article, Bob talks about BRIDGE TO NOWHERE. PORK. SOMETHING TEA, after buma, wanted to stop. For bringing down Bush’s BIG GOVERNMENT, bridge to nowhere is like using a toothpick as bat when playing baseball. _In·sig·nif·i·cant _ $$$’s. Besides, besides, besides, That wasteful bridge was NOT BUSH’S idea. Bush DID NOT have line item veto. Practice HAS ALAWAYS BEEN to buy votes as wrong as it IS. Greasing palms for political support. Nick picking is great conversation I guess at a local bar. Big ticket items might cause fight.

    Bob has not taken pen in hand & brought up cost of Homeland security.We know its SAVED attacks & LIVES. HIS DIFFERENT articles bring up WIRETAPES without Court orders. A approved Court action. Bob’s latest article saying not finding fake bombs was Bush’s doing. *** Could not stop laughing ***. Bob called that article “RIGHT WING “WALL STREET JOURNAL” SO I would JUST BELIEVE ??? DOESN’T read “RIGHT” to me, but never mind, truth of article is WHAT MATTERS. This article SMELLED like old diaper in landfill.

    Distract while changing subject. Actual BUSH BIG GOVERNMENT appears to be a subject NEAR & DEAR to Bob’s heart. He comes back to it. Bob’s can’t defend his position well simple because big ticket stuff WAS NOT HIS FAULT. Bob will hear that often.

    Thought LITTLE fault of his own Bush broke records in the spending department. Kind of funny in the other article, Bob talks about BRIDGE TO NOWHERE. PORK. SOMETHING TEA, after buma, wanted to stop. For bringing down Bush’s BIG GOVERNMENT, bridge to nowhere is like using a toothpick as bat when playing baseball. _In·sig·nif·i·cant _ $$$’s. Besides, besides, besides, That wasteful bridge was NOT BUSH’S idea. Bush DID NOT have line item veto. Practice HAS ALAWAYS BEEN to buy votes as wrong as it IS. Greasing palms for political support. Nick picking is great conversation I guess at a local bar. Big ticket items might cause fight.

    Bob has not taken pen in hand & brought up cost of Homeland security.We know its SAVED attacks & LIVES. HIS DIFFERENT articles bring up WIRETAPES without Court orders. A approved Court action. Bob’s latest article saying not finding fake bombs was Bush’s doing. *** Could not stop laughing ***. Bob called that article “RIGHT WING “WALL STREET JOURNAL” SO I would JUST BELIEVE ??? DOESN’T read “RIGHT” to me, but never mind, truth of article is WHAT MATTERS. This article SMELLED like old diaper in landfill.

  • Bob

    LMAO………….MY APOLOGIES !…you did realize it you’re just to stupid to correct it!

  • Bill Hedges

    Bill Hedges Mar 17th, 2013 at 12:55 am

    FYI

    Your article IS A JOKE. You won’t discuss 911 but you use link THAT DOES. Guy writing your article must be unaware of 911 & OTHER events in his terms. “BUSH WAS A BIG GOVERNMENT DISASTER” is misleading BULL:

    “Think for a moment about the thousands of Transportation Security Administration screeners — newly minted government employees all — who continue to confiscate contact-lens solution and nail clippers while, according to nearly every field test, somehow failing to notice simulated bombs in passenger luggage.”

    http://online.wsj.com/art…..11775.html

    You are NOT SKIPPING OVER 911, recession, TARRP, and wars BECAUSE of your great love OF Bush ( THESE are $$$ multi trillion items).You are covering your position from those FACTS. YOU TRY TO DEMEAN MY ANSWER WITH “AH YES !………THE WAVE OF THE HAND ANSWER YOU MADE FAMOUS”. Well yes TRUTH is a wonderful defense.

    Bush tax cuts were raking in like .035 more revenue from rich. Bush warned of recession, TARP did not use all funds appropriated with most paid BACK with HIGH INTEREST in Bush’s share. DEMOS WERE WARNING of WMD long before Bush entered WH. This justifies Bush’s bigger government. Government # 1 job is protect the people.

    We don’t have to discuss this ANYMORE. AS LONG AS YOU DON’T SAY BUSH BIG GOVERNMENT without adding __ NOT HIS FAULT __.

    Honesty in what we say…

  • Bill Hedges

    ** RECESSION, WARS, & 911 caused Big Government under Bush. Big ticket items **

    Small ticket items happen under each President. The unlucky Presidents have the major event thrust upon them. Bush had __ 3 MAJOR ones __…

  • Bob

    The RNC has released their “Autopsy” on how the party can straighten out and as the author Joel Pollak in the article below says “It has as much chance of reviving the GOP as an autopsy has of reviving a corpse.”

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/03/18/Autopsy-Is-the-Right-Word-RNC-Releases-Report-on-Party-s-Future

    I stated once before that assigning party insiders like Haley Barbour and Ari Flieser is akin to having Hitler make a report on how the holocaust was wrong.The report while having a few ideas worthwhile like a shorter primary season and a controll over how and who run the debates mainly suggest a Dem-lite approach.They suggest that the republican party imitate the left idenity politics along with republican leaders particapating in the “Daily Show’,”The Colbert Report”, and “MTV”. It makes no mention of strenghining party commitments to Conservative principles.When growth is mentioned it is to PARTY BUREAUCRACY. So it comes down to outreach to the left but not to the right.

    Recently Democratic consultant Pat Caddell said at our CPAC meeting that “In my party we play to win.You people play for a different kind of an agenda.”How true because recently a member of this site said to me in one of his more coherent post “Must be enemies with other side?”(17th March @4:46PM)while a leading member of Congress called us “wacko birds”.Again notice the outreach to the left but not to the right!

    The major problem lies not only with the crony capitalism of letting consultants bid on contracts without competing bids and awarding them to friends of the RNC leadership.As I said above it comes down to the leadership itself when they have the power to come up with these cockamamie reports covering their butts.Also I said “After every defeat the leadership of the party has changed …..except now.”If you’re in a con game and you don’t know who the mark is…….you’re the mark”….David Mamet.Again Pat Caddell:”When Democratic consultants fail they get sent to the minors until their won-loss rate improves.I don’t see that happening in the GOP enough.THEY FAIL UPWARDS”(read Reince Preibus in this).

    When I was a boy their was a popular comic strip called “Pogo” and one of his more famous quotes they used almost daily was :

    “WE HAVE MET THE ENEMY AND HE IS US!”

  • Bill Hedges

    Bob’s GOOD BUDDY, “RNC chairman Reince Priebus has referred to the committee’s report on the state of the party as an “autopsy.”

    Bob sees the situation WORSE than I do. Then he sees Bush as BIG GOVERNMENT with MAJOR TICKET ITEMS ignored by him BUT not his links. Bob ignores the heart of the argument in his links and uses the scrapes as his argument. Links understand GIGANTIC debt is based on 911 & the aftermath of protecting our Country, recession near size of depression, & not one but 2 wars. Which Bush only PUSHED the button BUT didn’t cause. Bob counts pennies when $ 100,000,000 counting lead to BIG GOVERNMENT.

    Bob’s links ARE humorous. Airport security inefficiency/actions is Bush’s fault is what is funny. NOT HOUSEHOLD LIQUIDS CAN BE MIXED TO MAKE BOMB ON PLANE.THEN it turns my stomach seeing a little one searched. Method are improving. There is a very expensive machine. In Mid East, children were used as bombs. Racial profiling. A very complex situation & easy to __ criticize __.

    I am not familiar with how the win in WI occurred. Since Bob sees the futility that he can prove Bush’s fault for Big government (No Rush quotes, etc.), Bob’s goes down his list to little “r” Republicans __ bones of contention __.

    TEA consist of different groups. Demos, Inds, Republicans. No doubt somewhere a person professing to be TEA that votes liberal. There was crazy Todd of MO. Except for politicians anyone can join TEA party. I am not GOOD ENOUGH to call myself TEA in BOB’s world. He MIND READS my political thoughts. Anyway, fractions of TEA has ideas to grow this newby Party. THUS, room for disagreement. I’ll put my 2 cents in, but, not mega bucks.

    Ownership of WH goes back & forth, “autopsy” is a attention getter which is fine tactic but not literal. bumaites had their CALL TO ARMS with “blame Bush” & “change”. buma will reduce debt by half.

    Dad Bush failed saying just 3 words. Dad Bush went against our principles not following his words “NO NEW TAXES”. The death of Republican Party, in Bob’s World, is premature. “Dead man walking” HARDLY. Was not TEA win in 2010. What did TEA do to deserve the mega win ? Major win came because of the __ audacity __ of majority of demos in Congress to pass legislation hated in the polls including bumcare.

    1. We need sound candidates not in-name TEA only or nuts like Todd of MO. As Karl points out. Compromise is not a dirty word BUT a necessity as Ronald and Newt proved. Ronald DID increase taxes, but, reduced FAR MORE. He, like Newt, had to compromise with demos to get things DONE.

    2. Demos GOT AWAY giving Bill credit, not Newt, for all good things that Newt accomplished. In Welfare Reform was duel citizenship. Take CREDIT where it is due.

    3. Explain the difference between CBO “estimates” and “real numbers”. demos point to estimates of loss revenue when reducing taxes for rich. Republicans must point to real numbers to PROVE revenues are enriched IN REAL LIFE. Teach reasons WHY we support TAX CUTS for all. Show the historic gratification in doing so.

    4. Controversy idea drop abortion issue. COULD lead to, rightly so, areas I do not wish to go like same sex marriage & illegals. We could agree with abortion, same sex, etc. ONES we don’t accept WE STILL will be called RACIST. No end to GIVING IN until we have same odor as demos. ONE PARTY beliefs. We all look the same.

    I do not mention THIS ONE because I want. I see SOME might think was good idea, BUT, must think through to such actions. I could support abortion except for the future __ consequence __ of never ending US TOO GROUPS.

    “WE HAVE MET THE ENEMY AND HE IS US!” applied to Demos in 2010. Newt’s run for WH. Applies to most of us…

  • Bill Hedges

    Applies to most of us_ WRONG_ all…

  • Bill Hedges

    FYI

    Quotes without links, to set in FULL context & full disclosure, IS IGNORED as HEARSAY. RUBBISH. Direct quotes only considered NOT interpretation.

    LINKS with no quotes as points IS wanting me to try & discover your reasons for YOUR use of link. Expecting me to do your work. What FOLLY for Bob to write:

    “Well here is a link you can go through”

    DO YOUR OWN HOMEWORK or expect it to be thrown out in the bathwater…

  • Bob

    “I don’t know about you but I’m impatient with those republicans who after the last election rushed into print saying “We must broaden the base of our party when what they really meant was to fuzz up and blurr even more the difference between ourselves and our opponent.”……..Ronald Reagan

    After going over the “Autopsy’ more I can see the down side of it a little more clearer.They suggest limiting the primary length and no state caucuses or conventions(just primaries).Which sounds good but the down side would be it helps incumbents by keeping the challenging candidates from getting their face out to the public especially in the smaller states.It would also hurt their chances of raising the needed money to keep their campaigns to continue.The incumbents would in addition not being facing the cut throat primary season where their record could be exposed by challengers.The report suggest that the republican party take the same low road approach to attracting voters that the left uses.”We have to blow the whisltes on corporate malfeasance,speak out on liquidations and executives receiving bonuses.”One item I noticed that wasn’t addressed was the “open primaries’ where you can vote no matter which party you are registered in.But while they have an effect on the outcome and delegates the states are the ones who determine that not nationally.

    One of the good points of the report is that they suggest abolishing matching campaign funds which they estimate would save up to $617 million over 10 years.Less than 10% check the box on their income tax form for the $3 donation. President Obama opted out of it in 2008 and 2012 and Mr.Romney opted out in 2012.Both parties shattered fundraising and spending records this past election.

    It has been asked “How the Tea Party” were the ones who influenced the SWEEPING OF THE 2010 MID-TERM ELECTION AND NOT THE republican PARTY? Thats as easy as the nose on your face.The Tea Party was at it’s height of popularity and activism in 2010 and President Obama’s Obamacare was the factor energizing us.WE MADE A POINT OF GETTING OUT TO VOTE!The “AUTOPSY” pointed out that “Third party groups tht promote purity are hurting our electorial prospects.”(page 54 )…….GOOD! BUT YOU AIN’T SEEN NOTHING YET!

  • Bob

    Here’s a link to the entire republican”Growth and Opportunity Project” report:

    The “Autopsy”

    http://www.politico.com/story/2013/03/rnc-report-growth-and-opportunity-88987.html

  • Bill Hedges

    FYI

    Quotes without links, to set in FULL context & full disclosure, IS IGNORED as HEARSAY. RUBBISH. Direct quotes only considered NOT interpretation.

    LINKS with no quotes as points IS wanting me to try & discover your reasons for YOUR use of link. Expecting me to do your work. What FOLLY for Bob to write:

    “Well here is a link you can go through”

    DO YOUR OWN HOMEWORK or expect it to be thrown out in the bathwater…
    __

    “a member of this site said to me in one of his more coherent post “Must be enemies with other side?”(17th March @4:46PM)while a leading member of Congress called us “wacko birds”.Again notice the outreach to the left but not to the right!”

    We got buma to extend Bush tax cuts as Bush did. Top to bottom. Our way bills SIT. Not law. Worked called compromise. Both side GIVE. YOUR EVAUATION ridiculous .

    Quote in FULL DISCLOSER is:

    “Such a cute cartoon. Log jams make more sense. Must be enemies with the other side ? GOOD SHOW. THAT HELPS WHEN COMPROMISE IS NEEDED WHICH IS MOST OF TIME…”

    buma patting us on back AS FRIEND is cartoon. I am saying “Must be enemies with other side?”.

    Maybe I missed “wacko birds” in that comment, have other things to do. Say “ more coherent post” of mine if it makes you feel BETTER when I collapse your argument SO OFTEN __ BIG GOVERNMENT Bush wipe-out…

  • Bill Hedges

    Not ” patting ” but painting…

  • Bill Hedges

    FYI

    “Reagan at CPAC in 1975: “Let Them Go Their Way”

    http://www.westernfreepress.com/2013/03/14/reagan-at-cpac-in-1975-let-them-go-their-way/

    Bob gives 100 page link. Like I’ll go through THAT.

    NOW link I gave to Reagan quote by Bob I did…

  • Bill Hedges

    “It has been asked “How the Tea Party” were the ones who influenced the SWEEPING OF THE 2010 MID-TERM ELECTION AND NOT THE republican PARTY?”

    What I wrote BEFORE Bob made that statement was :

    Was not TEA win in 2010. What did TEA do to deserve the mega win ? Major win came because of the __ audacity __ of majority of demos in Congress to pass legislation hated in the polls including bumcare.

    Guess Bob was talking about another. Because I didn’t say what Bob wrote. Right before he wrote it.

    This STRONG TEA loss 11 in 2012

  • Bill Hedges

    “I don’t know about you but I’m impatient with those republicans who after the last election rushed into print saying “We must broaden the base of our party when what they really meant was to fuzz up and blurr even more the difference between ourselves and our opponent.”……..Ronald Reagan

    Don’t “fuzz up and blurr even more the difference…” BUT, but, BUT REAGAN believed in compromise. Only way to get SOME of what you want WITHOUT control of Congress:

    “Reagan Tax Cuts & Increases”

    Tax cuts -275.3 bil

    Tax increases +132.7

  • Bill Hedges
  • Bill Hedges

    “Ronald Reagan on the importance of political compromise(in his own words)”

    “When I began entering into the give and take of legislative bargaining in Sacramento, a lot of the most radical conservatives who had supported me during the election didn’t like it.

    “Compromise” was a dirty word to them and they wouldn’t face the fact that we couldn’t get all of what we wanted today. They wanted all or nothing and they wanted it all at once. If you don’t get it all, some said, don’t take anything.

    “I’d learned while negotiating union contracts that you seldom got everything you asked for. And I agreed with FDR, who said in 1933: ‘I have no expectations of making a hit every time I come to bat. What I seek is the highest possible batting average.’

    “If you got seventy-five or eighty percent of what you were asking for, I say, you take it and fight for the rest later, and that’s what I told these radical conservatives who never got used to it.

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/960104/posts

  • Bill Hedges

    Hummm… Those “wacko birds” Reagan spoke of…

  • Bob

    Take out the vowels from “REINCE PRIEBUS”and you end up with:
    RNC PR BS

  • Bill Hedges

    *** Again Bob must change the subject. *** A lot of black & blue upon him from the last time he left a massage. The rip in his hull causes his ship to sink faster than the Titanic.

    Such a dreadful last comment Bob. THE “games people play” when in distress…

  • Bob

    Take out the vowels from “REINCE PRIEBUS” and you end up with:

    RNC PR BS

  • Bill Hedges

    Just a PART THAT Bob can not answer. Is too EARLY to think Bob is drunk. Drunks PLAY SUCH SILLY GAMES…

    Bob’s GOOD BUDDY, “RNC chairman Reince Priebus has referred to the committee’s report on the state of the party as an “autopsy.”

    Bob sees the situation WORSE than I do. Then he sees Bush as BIG GOVERNMENT with MAJOR TICKET ITEMS ignored by him BUT not his links. Bob ignores the heart of the argument in his links and uses the scrapes as his argument. Links understand GIGANTIC debt is based on 911 & the aftermath of protecting our Country, recession near size of depression, & not one but 2 wars. Which Bush only PUSHED the button BUT didn’t cause. Bob counts pennies when $ 100,000,000 counting lead to BIG GOVERNMENT.

    Bob’s links ARE humorous. Airport security inefficiency/actions is Bush’s fault is what is funny. NOT HOUSEHOLD LIQUIDS CAN BE MIXED TO MAKE BOMB ON PLANE.THEN it turns my stomach seeing a little one searched. Method are improving. There is a very expensive machine. In Mid East, children were used as bombs. Racial profiling. A very complex situation & easy to __ criticize __.

    I am not familiar with how the win in WI occurred. Since Bob sees the futility that he can prove Bush’s fault for Big government (No Rush quotes, etc.), Bob’s goes down his list to little “r” Republicans __ bones of contention __.

    TEA consist of different groups. Demos, Inds, Republicans. No doubt somewhere a person professing to be TEA that votes liberal. There was crazy Todd of MO. Except for politicians anyone can join TEA party. I am not GOOD ENOUGH to call myself TEA in BOB’s world. He MIND READS my political thoughts. Anyway, fractions of TEA has ideas to grow this newby Party. THUS, room for disagreement. I’ll put my 2 cents in, but, not mega bucks.

    Ownership of WH goes back & forth, “autopsy” is a attention getter which is fine tactic but not literal. bumaites had their CALL TO ARMS with “blame Bush” & “change”. buma will reduce debt by half.

    Dad Bush failed saying just 3 words. Dad Bush went against our principles not following his words “NO NEW TAXES”. The death of Republican Party, in Bob’s World, is premature. “Dead man walking” HARDLY. Was not TEA win in 2010. What did TEA do to deserve the mega win ? Major win came because of the __ audacity __ of majority of demos in Congress to pass legislation hated in the polls including bumcare.

    1. We need sound candidates not in-name TEA only or nuts like Todd of MO. As Karl points out. Compromise is not a dirty word BUT a necessity as Ronald and Newt proved. Ronald DID increase taxes, but, reduced FAR MORE. He, like Newt, had to compromise with demos to get things DONE.

    2. Demos GOT AWAY giving Bill credit, not Newt, for all good things that Newt accomplished. In Welfare Reform was duel citizenship. Take CREDIT where it is due.

    3. Explain the difference between CBO “estimates” and “real numbers”. demos point to estimates of loss revenue when reducing taxes for rich. Republicans must point to real numbers to PROVE revenues are enriched IN REAL LIFE. Teach reasons WHY we support TAX CUTS for all. Show the historic gratification in doing so.

    4. Controversy idea drop abortion issue. COULD lead to, rightly so, areas I do not wish to go like same sex marriage & illegals. We could agree with abortion, same sex, etc. ONES we don’t accept WE STILL will be called RACIST. No end to GIVING IN until we have same odor as demos. ONE PARTY beliefs. We all look the same.

    I do not mention THIS ONE because I want. I see SOME might think was good idea, BUT, must think through to such actions. I could support abortion except for the future __ consequence __ of never ending US TOO GROUPS.

    “WE HAVE MET THE ENEMY AND HE IS US!” applied to Demos in 2010. Newt’s run for WH. Applies to most of us…

    “It has been asked “How the Tea Party” were the ones who influenced the SWEEPING OF THE 2010 MID-TERM ELECTION AND NOT THE republican PARTY?”

    What I wrote BEFORE Bob made that statement was :

    Was not TEA win in 2010. What did TEA do to deserve the mega win ? Major win came because of the __ audacity __ of majority of demos in Congress to pass legislation hated in the polls including bumcare.

    Guess Bob was talking about another. Because I didn’t say what Bob wrote. Right before he wrote it.

    This STRONG TEA loss 11 in 2012

    Hummm… Those “wacko birds” Reagan spoke of…

    “Ronald Reagan on the importance of political compromise(in his own words)”

    “When I began entering into the give and take of legislative bargaining in Sacramento, a lot of the most radical conservatives who had supported me during the election didn’t like it.

    “Compromise” was a dirty word to them and they wouldn’t face the fact that we couldn’t get all of what we wanted today. They wanted all or nothing and they wanted it all at once. If you don’t get it all, some said, don’t take anything.

    “I’d learned while negotiating union contracts that you seldom got everything you asked for. And I agreed with FDR, who said in 1933: ‘I have no expectations of making a hit every time I come to bat. What I seek is the highest possible batting average.’

    “If you got seventy-five or eighty percent of what you were asking for, I say, you take it and fight for the rest later, and that’s what I told these radical conservatives who never got used to it.

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/960104/posts

  • Bob

    The results of a new poll taken by “The Hill” which asked which of two approaches do you perfer for the budget has been released.The choice which won was the republican version with 55% but it was without mentioning which party was affiliated with it.When party names were attached the Democratic version won 35% to 30%.This tells me that IT ISN’T THE MESSAGE THAT TURNS THE AMERICAN PUBLIC OFF BUT THE PEOPLE GETTING THE MESSAGE OUT FROM THE PARTY.Perhaps it’s time to get rid of the leadership of Mitch McConnell,John Boehner and Priebus and get the younger version WHO FORMED THIS APPROACH INSTEAD OF RUNNING THE PARTY LIKE THE COMMUNIST POLITIBORO !

    http://thehill.com/polls/288641-hill-poll-voters-prefer-gop-budget-ideas-but-dislike-republican-party-

  • Bill Hedges

    Bob AGAIN chances subject. Can’t handle guts of his politics ripped from his stomach. Gets BORING answering your comments, then , off you go INTO WIDE BLUE YONDER…

  • Bob

    The RNC proposes to consult with African-Americans,Asian-Americans,Hispanics,Native-Americans and other communities to determine how they can broaden their ELECTORIAL BASE.To implement this aspect RNC chairmen Reince Priebus has promised to have dialogues with groups which include LULAC,LaRaza and the NAACP.Not exactly what you would call your typical republican target groups are they? DO THEY EVEN MAKE A MENTION TO CONSULTING THEIR BASE …THE CONSERVATIVES?……..NO!

    Well not only has Congressman Paul Ryan come out with a budget proposal but the Conservative group “Republican Study Committee” has released one.Their budget proposal has the federal deficit eliminated in 4 years while raising the retirement age to 70 effective 2024. I’m sure there are kinks to every plan…….but lets see La Raza and the NAACP suggest anything.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/budget/288781-house-conservatives-budget-balances-in-4-years-raises-retirement-age-to-70

  • Bob
  • Bill Hedges

    Don’t get your ‘dander up’ Bob…

    1. “and other communities to determine how they can broaden their ELECTORIAL…”

    “DO THEY EVEN MAKE A MENTION TO CONSULTING THEIR BASE …THE CONSERVATIVES?……..NO!”

    KEYWORD ___ “broaden”… Is a GIVEN we want 100 % of CONSERVATIVES. Bob gets carried away with semantics . Minorities are small % of Republicans Party. Trying to expand.

    2. Bob writes “John Boehner and Priebus and get the younger version WHO FORMED THIS APPROACH INSTEAD OF RUNNING THE PARTY LIKE THE COMMUNIST POLITIBORO !”

    WHEN writing “ COMMUNIST POLITIBORO” connected to John Boehner and Priebus___ “wacko birds” comes to mind.

    “When I began entering into the give and take of legislative bargaining in Sacramento, a lot of the most radical conservatives who had supported me during the election didn’t like it.

    “Compromise” was a dirty word to them and they wouldn’t face the fact that we couldn’t get all of what we wanted today. They wanted all or nothing and they wanted it all at once. If you don’t get it all, some said, don’t take anything.

    “I’d learned while negotiating union contracts that you seldom got everything you asked for. And I agreed with FDR, who said in 1933: ‘I have no expectations of making a hit every time I come to bat. What I seek is the highest possible batting average.’

    “If you got seventy-five or eighty percent of what you were asking for, I say, you take it and fight for the rest later, and that’s what I told these radical conservatives who never got used to it.

    Reagan

    I don’t define Governor of LA and others as “wacho birds”. They don’t fit into Reagan’s explanation. “Wacho birds” turned on Reagan when he COMPROMISED. BOB’S HEROS compromise. How things get done. Before buma got passage of bumacare, he had to give order no federal funds for abortion.

    “Wacho birds” pass laws ???

  • Bob

    Here’s an update on the voting for the Conservative RSC (Republican Study Committe)budget I mentioned above by Congress.

    The budget proposal which would have achieved a balance in 4 years was voted down by 104 ayes to 132 nays.The reason for such an unusual vote count is that 171 Democrats voted present in an attempt to force the GOP to adopt the conservative proposal.This ultimately forced the RINO republicans to vote “no” than might have otherwise.

    In a related story the budget offered by the “Congressional Black Caucus” was rejected 105 to 305 WITH 80 DEMOCRATS VOTING AGAINST IT.Does the RNC still want to pander to La Raza and the NAACP with proposals like this???

    THE VOTE ON THE BUDGET PROPOSAL BY REP.PAUL RYAN WILL BE VOTED ON TODAY THURSDAY 21ST MARCH.

  • Bill Hedges

    “Does the RNC still want to pander to La Raza and the NAACP with proposals like this???”

    Republicans want to broaden their support. Change MINDS…

  • Bob

    The RNC should try changing the minds of the RINO’s instead of trying to BUY VOTERS through pandering and crony capitalism.If the RNC spent as much time trying to get a conservative message out as they do trying to demonize those in the party who have ideas and make proposals they might get some where.

    It is naive to believe that YOU ARE STILL LIVING IN A 1980’S WORLD where you can actually COMPROMISE WITH THE LEFT.They have come out after the last election and stated that THEIR AGENDA AND LEGACY IS BASED ON DESTROYING THE GOP.Rep.Reid just yesterday BLAMED THE republican SEQUESTER ON THE DEATHS OF 9 MARINES DURING A TRAINING ACCIDENT.

    I have nothing against reaching out and compromise IF IT WAS VIABLE but the republican idea of compromise is strictly a defensive action where capitulation to 75% of what the left ask for is considered a victory.Then the left comes back 6 months later and ask for more and again republicans give them most of what they ask for.The GOP feels that we can avoid electorial hell if we just have one more dance with the devil.

    The point that you were to dense to understand in my comment above wasn’t that I was afaid of minorities swamping the party but that THE PARTY IS WHORING ITSELF FOR VOTES WHILE IGNORING IT’S BASE.

  • Bill Hedges

    “BUY VOTERS through pandering”

    Do tell that story…

    “IN A 1980?S”

    Newt compromised and did well.

  • Bob

    Rep.Paul Ryans budget proposal was APPROVED today (Thursday 21st March)by the House with a vote of 221 to 207 largely along party lines.10 republicans voted against it.

  • Bill Hedges

    There is little hope Ryan budget will pass in Senate. The other more strict budget HAD NO CHANGE at all…

  • Bill Hedges

    Best hope Senate will vote on bill. When it fails they re-write the bill and send back to House. NOT sit on.

  • Bill Hedges

    “For the third straight year, the GOP-controlled House has passed Rep. Paul Ryan’s (R-Wis.) budget blueprint. The budget cuts about $5 trillion over the next decade and aims to balance the budget by the end of that 10-year period.”

    “Amash, Broun and Jones are noted members of the maverick caucus in the House, often voting against their party from a libertarian/tea party angle. Some of the other members, including Gibson and Heck, come from swing districts.”

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/03/21/10-house-republicans-vote-against-ryan-budget/

    “Wacho birds”

  • Bill Hedges

    “It is naive to believe that YOU ARE STILL LIVING IN A 1980?S WORLD where you can actually COMPROMISE WITH THE LEFT”. “The point that you were to dense to understand in…”

    The DEFINITION/CHARACTERIZATION of the term “wacho birds”. As pointed out Reagan had them too. Bob wants us to play along with. Of course NO COMPRMISE. Bob will insult his way. WANTING HIS WAY. Insulting DOESN’T get YOUR WAY.

    The attacks upon this Party lies MAINLY ON them. Pandering to “wacho birds” is cutting off ones on neck. What can they do ? Go demo ? Start their own Party ? 2 WORSE CHOICES for them.

    Bob claimed victory of 2012 to “wacho birds”. AS IF. Claim was to light fire beneath our feet, to cuddle “wacho birds” and their cause as OURS. NOT HAPPENING. BOB WANTS TO BELIEVE oue outstanding new Republicans are aligned with him. They thought same thing of Reagan…

  • Bill Hedges

    Correction

    cutting off ones own neck…

  • Bill Hedges

    Correction

    BOB WANTS TO BELIEVE our…

  • Bob

    Your just filled with corrections but then that goes with your incoherent thought pattern.

    “Bob claimed victory of 2012 to wacko birds’…….NO I claimed the victory of 2010 to the Tea Party.THE 2012 DEFEAT WAS ALL THE ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICANS FAULT!

    “What can they do? Go demo? Start their own party?”…..NO we can stay home like Conservatives did in 2012 WHERE THE republican ESTABLISHMENT CANDIDATE GOT 3 MILLION LESS VOTES THAN JOHN MC CAIN.

  • Bill Hedges

    “Your just filled with corrections but then that goes with your incoherent thought pattern.”

    First “your” should be You have.. “ incoherent thought pattern” as you say.

    I corrected. You did not…

  • Bill Hedges

    Correction

    You are

  • Bob

    A “DOPE WITH CHANGE”……….There’s that sign on their back again!

    http://patriotpost.us/cartoons/17329

  • Bill Hedges

    Erasers are found on pencils FOR A REASON. Please tell Bob. WAIT. Bob knows THAT. He boo-boos ALL THE TIME AS WELL. Consider yourself “incoherent” Bob. Wait !!! Bob doesn’t correct sometimes. THIS is a *** pre·dic·a·ment *** for Bob. Bob follows me in SAME ERRORS. Correcting & not correcting. RUN Bob RUN from your embarrassment. YOUR STUPITY in bringing THIS NON-ISSUE against me . Trying to de-grade me. But YOU wear the same shoes:
    __

    Bob writes “Your just filled with corrections but then that goes with your incoherent thought pattern”

    First “your” should be YOU ARE.. “ incoherent thought pattern” as you say BOB. Personally,I’d call it a clerical error.

    I corrected. You did not. Hummm. Worse ?!? Thinking WEID like BOB.
    __

    WHO IS more “incoherent” BOB ??? Using your irrational reasoning & unsubstantiated conclusion. VERY FOOLISH BOB.

    Run from your shallow BOB in the hot Sun…

  • Bob

    “Trying to de-grade me.But YOU wear the same shoes”

    ONLY FOR SOMEONE STUPID ENOUGH TO EQUATE A MISTAKE IN GRAMMAR WITH SOMEONE LYING ABOUT WHAT ANOTHER PERSON SAID.

  • Bill Hedges

    “Really !?!”. WHAT ” LYING ” ???

    Bob writes “Your just filled with corrections but then that goes with your incoherent thought pattern”

    First “your” should be YOU ARE.. “ incoherent thought pattern” as you say BOB. Personally,I’d call it a clerical error.

    I corrected. You did not. Hummm. Worse ?!? Thinking WEID like BOB.

  • Bill Hedges

    FYI

    “EQUATE A MISTAKE IN GRAMMAR WITH”….“ incoherent thought pattern” IS “wacho bird” Bob…

  • Bob

    I REFER YOU TO MY POST OF 22ND MARCH @8:42 PM

  • Bill Hedges

    And….

  • Bill Hedges

    Bob Mar 18th, 2013 at 7:43 pm

    “It has been asked “How the Tea Party” were the ones who influenced the SWEEPING OF THE 2010 MID-TERM ELECTION AND NOT THE republican PARTY? Thats as easy as the nose on your face.The Tea Party was at it’s height of popularity and activism in 2010 and President Obama’s Obamacare was the factor energizing us.WE MADE A POINT OF GETTING OUT TO VOTE!The “AUTOPSY” pointed out that “Third party groups tht promote purity are hurting our electorial prospects.”(page 54 )…….GOOD! BUT YOU AIN’T SEEN NOTHING YET!”

    Was BIG SURPRISE buma won 2nd term. Landreaux lived in a cave for awhile. What happened was buma’s fans voted in 2008 & 2012 but not 2010.

    “Third party groups tht promote purity are hurting our electorial prospects.” Ahhh that would include “wacho birds”.

    2010 “wacho birds” been dropping like birds infected with West Nile virus. Helped defeat Paul Ryan’s budget. “Wacho birds” has tarnish the brand name for both TEA & Republican Party. Un-yielding MY WAY view. Recently at meeting a man was talking bad about K. Rowe. Also saying THAT he agreed with Karl about having conservation TEA running for office that are electable. NOT Todd of MO copies.

    You say you can compromise; if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, etc… The NEVER ENDNG IF.

    I will finish this AFTER you go to your “22ND MARCH @8:42 PM” comment. There are 3 paragraphs. FIRST, you answer the first paragraph which I have been commenting on…

  • Bill Hedges

    Correction

    Helped defeat Paul Ryan’s budget NO. Some VOTING AGAINST were “wacho birds”…

  • Bob

    What in the heck are you rambling about???ANSWER YOU ??I CAN’T FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING?

    YOU SPEND MOST OF YOUR POST I CAN ONLY SUPPOSE ATTACKING MY POST OF 18TH MARCH @7:43 PM AND THEN YOU SAY”I WILL FINISH THIS AFTER YOU GO TO YOUR 22ND MARCH @8:42 PM COMMENT.THERE ARE 3 PARAGRAPHS.FIRST YOU ANSWER THE FIRST PARAGRAPH WHICH I HAVE BEEN COMMENTING ON…”

    NO YOU WERE’NT COMMENTING ON MY FIRST PARAGRAPH YOU WERE COMMENTING ON A DIFFERENT POST AND AVOIDING THE LIE YOU ACCUSSED ME OF ABOUT SUPPOSEDLY SAYING THE TEA PARTY WAS BEHIND THE VICTORY IN 2012(22ND MARCH @6;35).BUT THIS IS YOUR TRICK OF GETTING OUT OF BEING CAUGHT BY CAUSING CONFUSION.

  • Bill Hedges

    You’re a FUCKING NUT CASE…

    ANSWER
    __

    Bob writes “Your just filled with corrections but then that goes with your incoherent thought pattern”

    First “your” should be YOU ARE.. “ incoherent thought pattern” as you say BOB. Personally,I’d call it a clerical error.

    I corrected. You did not. Hummm. Worse ?!? Thinking WEID like BOB.
    __

    THEN I’ll answer you

  • Bob

    “YOU’RE AN IDIOT AND LIFE IS TO SHORT TO DEAL WITH IDIOTS”

  • Bill Hedges

    “Really !?!”.

    __

    Bob writes “Your just filled with corrections but then that goes with your incoherent thought pattern”

    First “your” should be YOU ARE.. “ incoherent thought pattern” as you say BOB. Personally,I’d call it a clerical error.

    I corrected. You did not. Hummm. Worse ?!? Thinking WEID like BOB.
    __

    You made a fool of yourself and you want to walk away from it…

  • Bob

    Pssst………the word is spelled “WEIRD”…NOT “WEID”

  • Bill Hedges

    Won’t go away. Imprinted on this article…

    “Really !?!”.

    __

    Bob writes “Your just filled with corrections but then that goes with your incoherent thought pattern”

    First “your” should be YOU ARE.. “ incoherent thought pattern” as you say BOB. Personally,I’d call it a clerical error.

    I corrected. You did not. Hummm. Worse ?!? Thinking WEID like BOB.
    __

    You made a fool of yourself and you want to walk away from it…

  • Bob

    “You made a fool of yourself and you want to walk away from it….”

    LMAO….Obviously you are quite content of making a fool of yourself and NOT WALKING AWAY BY CONTINUING TO MIS-SPELL “WEIRD”

  • Bill Hedges

    And he said “Really !?!”.

    __

    Bob writes “Your just filled with corrections but then that goes with your incoherent thought pattern”

    First “your” should be YOU ARE.. “ incoherent thought pattern” as you say BOB. Personally,I’d call it a clerical error.

    I corrected. You did not. Hummm. Worse ?!? Thinking WEID like BOB.
    __

    You made a fool of yourself and you want to walk away from it…

  • Bill Hedges

    Misspell NOT MIS-SPELL

    “Incoherent thought pattern” Bob !!!

  • Bill Hedges

    Just funny what you do..

  • Bill Hedges

    Bob would rather fight than answer. My “lie” as Bob says isn’t. But he wants me to explain, then first, he must explain.

    Erasers are found on pencils FOR A REASON. Please tell Bob. WAIT. Bob knows THAT. He boo-boos ALL THE TIME AS WELL. Consider yourself “incoherent” Bob. Wait !!! Bob doesn’t correct sometimes. THIS is a *** pre·dic·a·ment *** for Bob. Bob follows me in SAME ERRORS. Correcting & not correcting. RUN Bob RUN from your embarrassment. YOUR STUPITY in bringing THIS NON-ISSUE against me . Trying to de-grade me. But YOU wear the same shoes:
    __

    Bob writes “Your just filled with corrections but then that goes with your incoherent thought pattern”

    First “your” should be YOU ARE.. “ incoherent thought pattern” as you say BOB. Personally,I’d call it a clerical error.

    I corrected. You did not. Hummm. Worse ?!? Thinking WEID like BOB.
    __

    WHO IS more “incoherent” BOB ??? Using your irrational reasoning & unsubstantiated conclusion. VERY FOOLISH BOB.

    Run from your shallow BOB in the hot Sun…

    ___

    Bob writes “YOU’RE AN IDIOT AND LIFE IS TO SHORT TO DEAL WITH IDIOTS”

    You can do as you are doing now. Communicate with me.

    At least I taught you “your” & “YOU’RE”

  • Bill Hedges

    “Definition of WEID”

    “Scottish and Irish variant of weed”

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/weid

    Bob thinks like a plant…

  • Bob

    Hmmmmm……if it is written this way “misspelled”

    THEN WHY DOES THE PROFEESOR WRITE THIS AS “PRE.DIC.A.MENT”???????

    LIFE IS TO SHORT TO DEAL WITH IDIOTS AND THEIR JIBBERISH NONSENSE.You don’t want a discussion all you want is confusion and avoiding answering questions.My apologies to everyone for prolonging this assinine conversation.

    GOOD NIGHT !

  • Bill Hedges

    As I said:

    ANSWER
    __

    Bob writes “Your just filled with corrections but then that goes with your incoherent thought pattern”

    First “your” should be YOU ARE.. “ incoherent thought pattern” as you say BOB. Personally,I’d call it a clerical error.

    I corrected. You did not. Hummm. Worse ?!? Thinking WEID like BOB.
    __

    THEN I’ll answer you

  • Bill Hedges

    As I wrote:

    Misspell NOT MIS-SPELL

  • Bill Hedges

    Corrected

    Misspell NOT “MIS-SPELL” Bob..

  • Bill Hedges

    Bob_ not “assinine” but asinine.

    *** As·i·nine *** means very stupid..

  • Bill Hedges

    Bob would say, as he says of me, he has “Incoherent thought pattern…

  • Bill Hedges

    “your” should be YOU ARE.. “
    Misspell NOT “MIS-SPELL”
    not “assinine” but asinine

  • Bill Hedges

    How did Bob start this ?

    “Incoherent thought pattern…

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    DZIEN KUJA ! But this thread is a poor example of how it should work.

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