Messaging

Conservatives and some Republicans are losing faith in the GOP’s ability to compete with the President in terms of communication. Forget wining, the GOP does not appear to be capable of even fighting the good fight.

The President simplifies to the point of distraction. He rarely goes off message and should he do so, the media fixes it for him. Competing with the President is a high hill to climb but it’s not Mount Everest and now would be a good time to step up the pace.

For instance, the big numbers have folks numbed: debt, deficits, taxes and spending don’t resonate with enough people to compete with a President who has crafted the ability to oversimplify and emotionalize an issue simultaneously. So why not go with small numbers? Why not change the communication strategy to compete with the President on his own ground? Let’s go simple!

Here are the small numbers that should have been the focus of the argument against the President’s tax proposals.

• Our budget deficit means that out of every 365 days, 146 of them are unpaid for; we borrow 146 days worth of spending every year.
• The President’s tax the rich proposal pays for 8 days, 5% of the problem.
• That means we still have 138 unpaid for days.

That approach is not difficult to relate to; we all relate to days and years, much more so than to a number with 12 zero’s after it. Three simple, factually correct, easily communicable points can generate a lot of questions.

• Is 138 days of debt every year healthy?
• What would you do if you ran out of money at the end of July every year?
• Do you think we can go on like this every year?
• The President’s budget says we can. His plan says we can.

  • Bill Hedges

    IF, if, if WE THE VOTERS, were SO WELL hoodwink by buma WHY OH WHY was nearly every bill passed by demo control Congress disliked in polls. WHY did we have a spectacular 54 seat win then we LOSS but 8 in House ? Impressive with a WELL RECEIVED president by voters. More impressive when considering the STATE OF THE UNION.

    With demos hiding under the bleachers, no budget, his backside did not cover Congress demos with much gusto for such a god.

    The circumstance is ** un·ten·a·ble **. Would of, could of, should of. Our fault ? NO. He IS the tail of a comet with crystals from tail illuminating our sky. Not a darn thing we could do about it BUT CRY & PAY. Sweep up after the collision…

  • Bob

    Americans give their impression of what they thought of President Obamas SECOND INAGURATION!

    THATS RIGHT THE ONE WHICH HASN’T HAPPENED YET !
    AND WE WONDER WHY THE CONSERVATIVE MESSAGE DOESN’T RESONATE

    http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2013/01/18/friday-fun-thoughts-from-people-who-attended-obamas-second-inaguration-n1492335

  • Bob

    Speaking of sending a message MSM has a “Coming Out Party” with it’s destroy the GOP message

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/01/19/CBS-News-Political-Director-Obama-Destroy-GOP

  • Bill Hedges

    Here is YOUR MESSAGE…

    Hirings are temporary BUT retirements are for DEATH DUE WE PART:

    “Texas vs. California”

    January 17, 2013

    “This week, a showdown between the 2 states. Their differences reflect the battle for America’s future.”

    “Moving to California was once the dream for many Americans. Its population grew at more than double the national average–until 1990. Last decade, 2 million more Americans moved out of California than moved in. They moved to states like Texas. In the last decade, Texas’ total population grew at double the national rate.”

    “….Texans pay less in taxes. There’s more job creation. And government takes less of your paycheck.”

    1. “Both states have too many government workers–in fact, Texas has more than California. But California pays them so much more that California’s pensions are bleeding the state dry”. Also “ L.A. City Council members are given cars, and they earn more than $170,000 per year.”

    2. “like San Bernardino. 3/4ths of the city’s money goes to what they call public safety–unionized cops and firemen. Politicians promised them more than they have, but the public doesn’t seem to realize WHY their city went belly up.”

    http://www.foxbusiness.com/on-air/stossel/blog/2013/01/17/texas-vs-california#ixzz2IZ0VmAmk

  • Bob

    “They should be holding todays inauguration on the deck of the USS Missouri instead of the capital so President Obama can formally accept the surrender of the GOP”…Marc Thiessen

    republican leaders(?)have announced that they are capitulating on the “Boehner Rule” where the republicans insist on one dollar in spending cut for every dollar in debt limit increase.

    Note:Seeing that the republicans are insisting on acting like a small party their name will be put in small letters from now on by me.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/marc-thiessen-an-inaugural-gift-from-the-gop/2013/01/21/69580234-633e-11e2-9e1b-07db1d2ccd5b_story.html

  • Bill Hedges

    OH BOB, “lift the federal government’s statutory borrowing limit for three months, with a requirement…….”

    Bob wrote:

    “republican leaders(?)have announced that they are capitulating on the “Boehner Rule” where the republicans insist on one dollar in spending cut for every dollar in debt limit increase.”

    FROM LINK:

    “Backing down from their hard-line stance, House Republicans said Friday that they would agree to lift the federal government’s statutory borrowing limit for three months, with a requirement that both chambers of Congress pass a budget in that time to clear the way for negotiations on long-term deficit reduction”

    You should of used “” when writing “capitulating”, was used in your link. Boy you hate Republican Party. Party CAN NOT PLESE YOU. You hate the chairman. Group hired to promote wasn’t bid on. Mad we lost WH. Now this.

    WELL, your getting WHAT YOU WANTED. According to you our GREAT WIN IN 2010 was NOTHING. WE LOST A gigantic 8 seats in House last election. My Party is hung out SOAKING WET. Your jumping up and down, stepping on your dog. No respect. You will spell our Party with a small “r” from now on. IN YOUR *** fit of rage ***.

    You CAN NOT SIGN DEFEAT on the ship Missouri. THAT is for UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER *** only ***. “WHAT WE HAVE HERE, IS, FAILURE TO COMMUNICATE” (Cool Hand Luke). WAS NOT total surrender BY NO MEANS. BUT, a change in OUR APPROACH. YOU did not like result of last election, well, THEY ARE WORKING on it…:

    http://truth-out.org/news/item/14009-in-reversal-house-gop-agrees-to-lift-debt-limit

  • Bill Hedges

    Not PLESE but PLEASE…

  • Bill Hedges

    CONCLUSION FROM MY LINK:

    “This is the first step to get on the right track, reduce our deficit and get focused on creating better living conditions for our families and children,” Mr. Cantor said. “It’s time to come together and get to work.”

  • Bill Hedges

    We can continue our deadlock, continue to pass our bills that sit in lockbox in Harry Reid’s office, or WE can innovate our METHODS…

  • Bill Hedges

    Should of called the Missouri a carrier. What a carrier…

  • Bob

    “When you can’t make them see the light make them feel the heat.”…………………Ronald Reagan

    Anyone who listened to the presidents speech yesterday realizes it was one of the most partisan speeches ever given at an inauguration.It hardly could be compared with Lincolns concilatory phrase “with malice toward none,with charity for all”.The republicans would be well advised to heed his warning that he intends to subordinate the Constitution to his own idealogical prepossessions.

    http://townhall.com/columnists/davidlimbaugh/2013/01/22/beware-of-those-advising-gop-to-unilaterally-disarm-n1494109/page/2

  • Bill Hedges

    Bob’s “Jan 21st, 2013 at 9:03 pm” against “small r” Republican Party got dropped SO FAST WITH JUST A LITTLE cool head explanation. Bob wants to sees EVERYTHING BAD about us like a liberal then flee the scene.

    RR raised taxes $1.00 for every $2.00 he got reduced. COMPROMISE. RR did not own Congress throughout his terms. Bob can’t see adjustment in behavior unless it squarely HITS HIM in the face. Bob ALSO LEFT OUT full story. Bill Clinton was VERY *** partisan *** YET Newt got his tax cuts for rich AND MORE.

    I was *** priv·i·leged *** NOT TO LISTEN to any of the presidents speeches yesterday. There. I can switch subject JUST LIKE BOB…
    ___

    Speaking of “subordinate the Constitution”and getting off track:

    “With the purchase of this new territory, the land area of America nearly doubled. However, the exact southern and western boundaries were not defined in the purchase. America would have to deal with Spain to work out the specific details of these boundaries. Meriwether Lewis and William Clark led a small expeditionary group called the Corps of Discovery into the territory. They are just the beginning of America’s fascination with exploring the west. Whether or not America had a ‘Manifest Destiny’ to span from ‘sea to sea’ as was often the rallying cry of the early to mid 19th century, the desire to control this territory cannot be denied.”

    “What were the effects of Jefferson’s decision to go against his own philosophy concerning a strict interpretation of the Constitution? It can be argued that his taking liberties with the Constitution in the name of need and expediency would lead to future Presidents feeling justified with a continual increase in the elasticity of Article I, Section 8, Clause 18. Jefferson should rightly be remembered for the great deed of purchasing this enormous tract of land. But one wonders if he might regret the means in which he earned this fame.”

    http://americanhistory.about.com/od/thomasjefferson/a/tj_lapurchase.htm

  • Bob

    The President during his 18 minute speech made only “ONE” reference to the deficit yesterday which shows where his priorities are for the next four years.He won re-election through his numerous promises to constituency groups and yesterday doubled down on his rhetoric by stressing through “collectivist action” any change to entitlements weakens the entrepreneural spirit.Obviously his idea of entrepreneural and ours on the right differ considerably.

    The republican party needs to realize this isn’t the old boy Congress anymore of 30 years ago where you can negotiate across the aisle.The Senate on the left hasn’t passed a budget in a while and feels no need to do so as long as they can keep making promises and winning elections.If 30 years isn’t reverent in todays political climate 200 years ago especially isn’t and they need to understand that you can’t compare the two in regard to circumstances in the interpretation of the Constitution.The President is out to build his legacy of fundamentally changing America and destroying the GOP along the way only makes it that much sweeter.The God Owful Party meanwhile needs not to cooperate by resorting to some cheap gimmicks and show it has some brass appendages.

  • Bob

    Let me make a clarification here.

    When I stated about 200 years ago isn’t reverent to the interpretation of the Constitution I wasn’t refering to anything amounting to a “living constitution.”I was simply stating Bill was equating what Thomas Jefferson did to justifying President Obamas ranshackle running over the Constitution today.Which I find unusual considering he says he belongs to the Tea Party.

    I adhere to a strict interpretation of the Constitution.

  • Bill Hedges

    Thomas Jefferson CRACKED the rule of the Constitution he deemed SO IMPORTANT…winning elections”.

    Bob tries to get back ON TRACK writing “The Senate on the left hasn’t passed a budget in a while and feels no need to do so as long as they can keep making promises and

    A popular president got re-elected BUT we still control House after 54 seat win (losing BUT 8) and Senate is relatively same shape AS BEFORE. *** WHERE IS THIS “winning elections” ? Demos IN CONTROL passed NO BUDGET. WRITING “feels no need to do so as long as they can keep making promises and winning elections” IS INEFFECTIVE, NON-SENSE EVIDENCE. They wish NOT to make the hard choices. Taking no responsibility. Rather shot us down FOR OUR ACTIONS.

    LIBERAL ACTING Bob writes “The God Owful Party meanwhile needs not to cooperate by resorting to some cheap gimmicks and show it has some brass appendages”. “cheap gimmicks” ? How many of our bills lay deteriorating in Reid’s office ? What hope, holding steadfast, is there of CHANGE ? What suggestion TO CHANGE SITUATION do you suggest ? YOUR male hormone HAVEN’T WORKED. A “cheap gimmicks” is speaking for Nate & saying Nate agrees with YOU.

    You wrote “30 years ago where you can negotiate across the aisle.” Not 30 years ago. Newt did it in the 90’s. Newt believed in GIVE & TAKE AS Bob would say “cheap gimmicks” as well.

    Did you BOTHER to read the more accurate explanation IN MY LINK ? Or simple attempting to stand up for your thoughts

  • Bill Hedges

    Cancel “…winning elections”.” from first sentence…

  • Bill Hedges

    “I adhere to a strict interpretation of the Constitution.” By deed NOT JEFFERSON…

  • Bill Hedges

    WHAT does my Jefferson point have to do with my TEA belief ???

  • Bob

    “By my count there have been at least seven budget/debt battles over the past two years in which republicans have either deferred,punted or caved.While they offer excuses from shrinking from the battle at hand they always emphatically promise to fight the next one.”

    From “A Retreat Emanating From A GOP Retreat”

    http://madisonproject.com/2013/01/a-retreat-emanating-from-the-gop-retreat/

  • Bob
  • Bill Hedges

    Aaaaaah WHAT does my Jefferson point have to do with my TEA belief ???

  • Bob

    The way I understand your post you are suggesting President Jefferson’s “subordination of the Constitution”of buying the Louisana Purchase was justified by “need and expediency” and “should be remembered for his great deed of purchasing this enormous tract of land.”

    You are favorably comparing him in your 3:06 Pm post to my remark about President Obama subordinating the Constitution.

  • Bob

    In addition;

    In your 5:03 post you reiterate that President Jefferson DIDN’T FOLLOW THE CONSTITUTION “BY DEED”

    Thus my remark concerning any member of the Tea Party wouldn’t advocate a President subordinating the Constitution to his own idealogical propossessions.

  • Bill Hedges

    “The way I understand your post you are suggesting”

    Was proven you don’t speak for Nate. “Suggesting” is MORE GARBAGE. BE responsible in what YOU SAY. YOU DON’T SPEAK FOR ME..

  • Bob

    What are you rambling about?

    Are you intentionally trying to avoid acknowledging my understanding of what you said was true?

    Next time don’t attempt to refute someone simply because you don’t like the individual or want to upstage them.Life is to short to deal with idiots simply looking for an arguement.

  • Bill Hedges

    YOU ARE so off base on my Jefferson quote. Can’t you read with comprehension ???

    Tell me, what is Nate’s opinion ???

  • Bill Hedges

    A srong hint

    “Bill Hedges Jan 22nd, 2013 at 5:03 pm”

    “I adhere to a strict interpretation of the Constitution.” By deed NOT JEFFERSON…

  • Bill Hedges

    Landreaux & Nate

    Bob in ANOTHER DD Mao if not DD Mao. Name calling is his style when in trouble:

    “idiots”…

  • Bob

    The President in his inauguration speech used the terms “We the people…”numerous times.But by him adding another term “collective action” he changes “We the people’ into “It takes a village”.Obviously the President feels he can take America where Woodrow Wilson only dreamt of going.

    “Government does now whatever experience permits or the times demand.”…………….Woodrow Wilson his book “The State”

    “Government does not stop with the protection of life,liberty, and property as some has supposed:it goes on to serve every convience of society.”……..Woodrow Wilson his book “The State”

  • Bob

    Some suggestions for the republican leadership(?)from the “Madison Project” website. “The Difficult Circumstances of Not Having a Spine”.

    http://madisonproject.com/2013/01/the-difficult-circumstance-of-not-having-a-spine/

  • Bill Hedges

    Madison is a PAC for raising MONEY. THIS QUALIFIES as link by Bob for consideration ? IT HAS A AGENDA.

    O. K… Article WAS ABLE to get O N E RESPONSE. And Bob here. Well ME TO INDIRECTLY I suppose.

    We have many a bill gathering dust on H. Reid desk THAT HOLDS TO OUR VIEWS. *** None now LAW ***. Though we won BIG in 2010, we only held, nearly steadfast, with those gains in last election. CHANGE seems CALLED FOR. NOT HOLD THE COURSE no matter WHAT into the ROCKS. As articles HERE WITH COMMENTS so indicated. Including BOB. A. Lincoln did not praise his General for continuously training his troupes and NOT DOING battle. HE replaced him with one who would do battle. Abe, when receiving complaints of Grant’s drinking, may have suggested ALL HIS GENERALS drink the same brand booze AS GRANT.

    Bob was unhappy with past performance & present performance. APPARENTLY chairman has not perform a magical election nationwide as occurred in WI, therefore, off with his head. No mitigating circumstance right Bob ? Only immediate gratification. Doesn’t always work that way AM AFRAID.

    Is a limited TIME OFF on debt. WITH CONDITIONS. EVEN Truman warned several times before DROPPING THE BOMBS… There IS NO reason to call spineless as article does. Newt WARNED more than ONCE. NEWT shut down government MORE THAN ONCE before getting B. Clinton’s signature on balanced budget BILL. Was THAT spineless ??? How about Ronald being for taxes being raised ? He got twice that amount IN tax cuts with demos at the helm in Congress.

    Compromise… Not abandonment or as in your article spineless. Romney & Ryan BOTH spoke of compromise before & after nomination for latest position. What they would do in WH had MANY BLANKS for compromise.

    Exaggeration OF FACTS TO THEIR VIEW is NORM for fund raising projects…

  • Bob

    The Madison Project is a PAC for CONSERVATIVE CANDIDATES.Of course it has an agenda IT IS PROLIFE,PRO FAMILY,FOR LIMITED GOVERNMENT AND DEFENDS RELIGIOUS FREEDOM.An agenda is one of the the main items the RNC seems to be “spineless” about.If the republican party wants the support of Conservatives then they should at least be able to take criticism from the right.There was no “exaggerations” needed in order to state their case.

    http://madisonproject.com/about-us/

  • Bill Hedges

    Exaggeration. Compromise WORKS. YOU IGNORED core of my points:

    We have many a bill gathering dust on H. Reid desk THAT HOLDS TO OUR VIEWS. *** None now LAW ***. Though we won BIG in 2010, we only held, nearly steadfast, with those gains in last election. CHANGE seems CALLED FOR. NOT HOLD THE COURSE no matter WHAT into the ROCKS. As articles HERE WITH COMMENTS so indicated. Including BOB. A. Lincoln did not praise his General for continuously training his troupes and NOT DOING battle. HE replaced him with one who would do battle. Abe, when receiving complaints of Grant’s drinking, may have suggested ALL HIS GENERALS drink the same brand booze AS GRANT.

    Bob was unhappy with past performance & present performance. APPARENTLY chairman has not perform a magical election nationwide as occurred in WI, therefore, off with his head. No mitigating circumstance right Bob ? Only immediate gratification. Doesn’t always work that way AM AFRAID.

    Is a limited TIME OFF on debt. WITH CONDITIONS. EVEN Truman warned several times before DROPPING THE BOMBS… There IS NO reason to call spineless as article does. Newt WARNED more than ONCE. NEWT shut down government MORE THAN ONCE before getting B. Clinton’s signature on balanced budget BILL. Was THAT spineless ??? How about Ronald being for taxes being raised ? He got twice that amount IN tax cuts with demos at the helm in Congress.

    Compromise… Not abandonment or as in your article spineless. Romney & Ryan BOTH spoke of compromise before & after nomination for latest position. What they would do in WH had MANY BLANKS for compromise.

    Exaggeration OF FACTS TO THEIR VIEW is NORM for fund raising projects…

  • Bob

    If there was truth to your statement I wouldn’t mind however I refer you to my post and link “A Retreat Emanating From A GOP Retreat.” of 22nd January @5:50PM.

    “By my count there have been at least seven budget/debt battles over the past two years in which republicans have either deferred,punted or caved.While they offer excuses from shrinking from the battle at hand they always emphatically promise to fight the next one.”

    In addition I refer you to the first paragraph of THIS THREAD entitled “Messaging” Now I’m not putting words in Landreaux’s mouth but I interpret this as someone else who isn’t happy with the republican leadership(?)Odd you never question his post?

    “Conservatives and some republicans are losing faith in the GOP ability to compete with the President in terms of communication.Forget winning the GOP does not appear to be capable of even fighting the good fight.”

  • Bill Hedges

    Again, your ignore my points. I’ll drop the losing battle of getting you to respond TO THAT.

    WE have NO ABILITY to pass our will. DROP YOUR “excuses from shrinking from the battle”. WE PASSED OUR WILL in House. GATHERS DUST STILL. Bush and Republicans warned of recession but had not enough votes to pass bill that could have lightened recession.

    I won’t get into Landreaux with you. Think what you will.

    Part 2

    “House Republicans on Wednesday are hoping to present a united front and jump-start the next several months’ worth of budget negotiations by approving a

    “Members will vote on a “limited suspension” of the federal debt limit through May 19, which would temporarily allow the Treasury Department to issue new debt to cover obligations incurred during that period, along with a measure that would withhold Senators’ pay if they fail to pass a budget.”

    “All we’re saying is: If the president and the Senate, if this country needs to incur more debt — Senate, please show us your plan to repay that debt, please show us your plan to control spending,” House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R., Va.) told reporters Tuesday.”

    “At a press conference Tuesday evening, House leaders declined to say if they had enough votes to pass the bill. However, several GOP aides and lawmakers tell National Review Online that the measure will probably pass with a limited number of defections.”

    http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/338436/house-republicans-united-front-andrew-stiles#

    You first link is discussing debt ceiling. As the above link proves, which is found in your first link. Which is a “short-term debt-limit extension with near-unanimous GOP support.”

    I APPROVE. Demos passed “pay as you go”. Let them DO. Our bills just GATHER DUST. Spineless hardly. Like a FOX…

  • Bob

    Now you are ignoring facts. The link while discussing the debt ceiling is in fact describing how the republicans cave.Just because the debt limit extention was passed by “near unanimous GOP” just means what I’ve been saying the whole party is spineless.

    I guess we won’t see eye to eye on this and will have to agree that we disagree.

  • Bill Hedges

    True. If you ignore:

    “All we’re saying is: If the president and the Senate, if this country needs to incur more debt — Senate, please show us your plan to repay that debt, please show us your plan to control spending,” House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R., Va.) told reporters Tuesday.”

    You do IGNORE…

    “Bill Hedges Jan 24th, 2013 at 9:49 pm”

  • Bob

    I’m confused at what your point is here?

  • Bill Hedges

    “Bill Hedges Jan 24th, 2013 at 9:49 pm”

  • Bob

    what is to comment on?

    I covered what you said in my 10:12 Pm post about the Madison Project.Your reference to Lincoln has no bearing on what we are discussing.As I said previously when a party loses a presidential election the head of the RNC is generally replaced.Your reference to President Truman bears even less significants on what we were discussing.You can’t be serious about equating a warning President Truman gave DURING WAR TO OUR ENEMY is the same as this situation.What Mr.Romney and Ryan would have done is moot and we will never know.

    You seem to be fishing for examples

  • Bill Hedges

    Seems is “moot ” that differs from your view OR THIS BECOMES needed:

    Landreaux & Nate

    “Messaging Bob Jan 22nd, 2013 at 6:55 pm”

    Bob is ANOTHER DD Mao if not DD Mao. Name calling is his style when in trouble:

    “idiots”…

  • Bill Hedges

    You did not cover “Bill Hedges Jan 24th, 2013 at 9:49 pm” which is one I just pointed out. don’t switch & bait…

  • Bob

    What are you babbling about? AND WHAT NAME DID I BRUISE YOUR TENDER EGO WITH NOW?

    UNTIL YOU GROW UP………GOOD NIGHT!

  • Bill Hedges

    Landreaux & Nate

    1. “Messaging Bob Jan 22nd, 2013 at 6:55 pm”

    Bob is ANOTHER DD Mao if not DD Mao. Name calling is his style when in trouble:

    “idiots”…
    _____

    2. “Messaging Bob Jan 25th, 2013 at 12:01 am

    “What are you babbling about? AND WHAT NAME DID I BRUISE YOUR TENDER EGO WITH NOW?”

    “UNTIL YOU GROW UP………GOOD NIGHT!”

  • Bill Hedges

    Part 2

    “What Mr.Romney and Ryan would have done is moot and we will never know.”

    As I recall Romney worked with legislator that was like 80 % demo. He got things DONE BY COMPROMISE. BOTH HE & RYAN. Why blanks in his plan. So they stated in theirne run for WH. No secret…

    Same for RR. Lincoln had General who would not fight (gridlock).He replaced with Grant who battled. Newt compromised and reduced debt, smaller government, and balanced budget. House Majority Leader Eric Cantor explained we are looking for demo ideas. To search for compromise. My examples are not “moot”. As explained in “Bill Hedges Jan 24th, 2013 at 10:17 pm”

    Ignoring and blowing up does not erase the facts and makes your opinion correct. We stay in same situation if my side sticks to their guns until AT LEAST the next election MOST LIKELY.

  • Bob

    Besides the “Madison Project” “The Club for Growth” is another CONSERVATIVE site that supports candidates who hold conservative principles instead of simply party building and keeping incumbents entrenched.

    http://www.clubforgrowth.org/aboutus/

  • Bill Hedges

    “Bob Jan 25th, 2013 at 12:44 am” HAS nothing to do with compromise to work on our nation’s big headhead. IF IF IF near ALL Republicans agree with new measure, there is substance. Last full agreement I know of we tried to pass bill to regulate financial institutions to lessen recession with Bush’s warnings. Another recession IS AT HAND if spending bubble isn’t address…

    “What Mr.Romney and Ryan would have done is moot and we will never know.”

    As I recall Romney worked with legislator that was like 80 % demo. He got things DONE BY COMPROMISE. BOTH HE & RYAN. Why blanks in his plan. So they stated in theirne run for WH. No secret…

    Same for RR. Lincoln had General who would not fight (gridlock).He replaced with Grant who battled. Newt compromised and reduced debt, smaller government, and balanced budget. House Majority Leader Eric Cantor explained we are looking for demo ideas. To search for compromise. My examples are not “moot”. As explained in “Bill Hedges Jan 24th, 2013 at 10:17 pm”

    Ignoring and blowing up does not erase the facts and makes your opinion correct. We stay in same situation if my side sticks to their guns until AT LEAST the next election MOST LIKELY

    Landreaux & Nate

    1. “Messaging Bob Jan 22nd, 2013 at 6:55 pm”

    Bob is ANOTHER DD Mao if not DD Mao. Name calling is his style when in trouble:

    “idiots”…
    _____

    2. “Messaging Bob Jan 25th, 2013 at 12:01 am

    “What are you babbling about? AND WHAT NAME DID I BRUISE YOUR TENDER EGO WITH NOW?”

    “UNTIL YOU GROW UP………GOOD NIGHT!”

  • Bob

    Sort of akin to Hitler making a report on where the holocaust went wrong don’t you think?

    http://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/rnc-plans-report-on-what-went-wrong-86692.html

  • Bill Hedges

    Have NO IDEA WHAT YOU are talking about:

    “Sort of akin to Hitler making a report on where the holocaust went wrong don’t you think?”

    Inflame your sentence with “Hitler ?” What “holocaust” ? Win 54 seats IN HOUSE IN 2010, but loss a mere 8 in Presidential election. IF buma skirt were SO LONG *** more *** seats should have been loss in House. Obvious voters picked & choice their candidates. Influx of voters, like more college students & blacks, were *** buma fans *** BUT not necessarily other demos…

    Just like ANY COMPANY Republican Party SHOULD put feelers out to improve THEIR PRODUCT. IMAGINE that is how our chairman did it in WI.

    Bob wrote:

    “By my count there have been at least seven budget/debt battles over the past two years in which republicans have either deferred,punted or caved.While they offer excuses from shrinking from the battle at hand they always emphatically promise to fight the next one.”

    President CAN AND HAS come up with a budget. Voted DOWN by both sides. DEMO SENATE, is suppose to, come up with budget in OCT. ___ Failure TO DO ___. HOUSE could pass 1,000,000 bills. Where are all the ones PASSED ??? WIPE the dust off and SEE.

    SO tell me, what should Republicans do ? You say they “deferred,punted or caved”. Should they JUST SAY NO. NO BUDGET ? GO into default ? Republicans & Bush WERE COMPLETELY CORRECT that regulations WERE NEEDED to lessen recession seen on the horizon. TELL ME, WHO got blamed for recession ??? Barney Frank and near all demos said NO PROBLEM.

    I’ll pull a House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R., Va.) & many, many other Republicans newest try to get THE VOTES needed to lift American’s blight ON YOU. Stalemate is getting us NOWHERE. YOU call it “deferred,punted or caved”.

    ********** ********** **********

    HOW BOB ARE YOU GOING TO GET THE VOTES TO clean up this mess ??? Stand by your guns with NO COMPROMISE ? No “deferred,punted or caved”… YOU GOING TO PREY COME ELECTION WE WILL CONTROL BOTH HOUSES ? Can we wait ???

    That terrible, terrible man who cheated on his wife, Newt, closed down government TWICE for short time. He was unfairly involved in Clinton’s impeachment. Clinton NOT HE who balanced budget and DID all the other good deeds. GREAT GUY was Bill C.. Newt’s THE BAD GUY. Who who who would GET BLAMED if WE SHUT DOWN government ? The longer SHUT DOWN the better for dems.

    SO BOB, solve the problem. Can e-mail solution to Republican Party Headquarters. THEY are asking for HELP… DON’T YOU “deferred,punted or caved” or IGNORE…

  • Bob

    “Conservatives and some Republicans are losing faith in the GOP ability to compete with the President in terms of communication.Forget winning the GOP does not appear to be capable of fighting the good fight.”
    Landreaux from his thread “Messaging”

  • Bill Hedges

    `So BOB HAS no answer…

  • Bob

    Oh and by the way “prey’ is what the left is doing to the republican party…….”pray” is what the republican party is doing come election time.

    Why does the left need socialism when they can control America through regulations

  • Bill Hedges

    `So BOB HAS no answer…

  • Bob

    “Life is to short……..” well you get the point

  • Bill Hedges

    Have NO IDEA WHAT YOU are talking about:

    “Sort of akin to Hitler making a report on where the holocaust went wrong don’t you think?”

    Inflame your sentence with “Hitler ?” What “holocaust” ? Win 54 seats IN HOUSE IN 2010, but loss a mere 8 in Presidential election. IF buma skirt were SO LONG *** more *** seats should have been loss in House. Obvious voters picked & choice their candidates. Influx of voters, like more college students & blacks, were *** buma fans *** BUT not necessarily other demos…

    Just like ANY COMPANY Republican Party SHOULD put feelers out to improve THEIR PRODUCT. IMAGINE that is how our chairman did it in WI.

    Bob wrote:

    “By my count there have been at least seven budget/debt battles over the past two years in which republicans have either deferred,punted or caved.While they offer excuses from shrinking from the battle at hand they always emphatically promise to fight the next one.”

    President CAN AND HAS come up with a budget. Voted DOWN by both sides. DEMO SENATE, is suppose to, come up with budget in OCT. ___ Failure TO DO ___. HOUSE could pass 1,000,000 bills. Where are all the ones PASSED ??? WIPE the dust off and SEE.

    SO tell me, what should Republicans do ? You say they “deferred,punted or caved”. Should they JUST SAY NO. NO BUDGET ? GO into default ? Republicans & Bush WERE COMPLETELY CORRECT that regulations WERE NEEDED to lessen recession seen on the horizon. TELL ME, WHO got blamed for recession ??? Barney Frank and near all demos said NO PROBLEM.

    I’ll pull a House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R., Va.) & many, many other Republicans newest try to get THE VOTES needed to lift American’s blight ON YOU. Stalemate is getting us NOWHERE. YOU call it “deferred,punted or caved”.

    ********** ********** **********

    HOW BOB ARE YOU GOING TO GET THE VOTES TO clean up this mess ??? Stand by your guns with NO COMPROMISE ? No “deferred,punted or caved”… YOU GOING TO PREY COME ELECTION WE WILL CONTROL BOTH HOUSES ? Can we wait ???

    That terrible, terrible man who cheated on his wife, Newt, closed down government TWICE for short time. He was unfairly involved in Clinton’s impeachment. Clinton NOT HE who balanced budget and DID all the other good deeds. GREAT GUY was Bill C.. Newt’s THE BAD GUY. Who who who would GET BLAMED if WE SHUT DOWN government ? The longer SHUT DOWN the better for dems.

    SO BOB, solve the problem. Can e-mail solution to Republican Party Headquarters. THEY are asking for HELP… DON’T YOU “deferred,punted or caved” or IGNORE…

  • Bill Hedges

    You…… ignored…. Changed subject…..

  • Bob

    The results are in from the RNC navel gazing meeting held the past four days and the determination is………SMILE!

    After four days Priebus was re-elected as head with little idea of where or how to take their party in the coming elections. New Hampshire chairmen(where the gop got it’s butt kicked)Wayne McDonald suggested that the speakers need to “smile more on camera and not be such a sour puss”.Funny but I never remember Harry Reid or Nancy Pelosi “smiling” much but their message resonated. But the widespread belief was the pendulum will inevitably swing back again and hey how can anyone argue with logic like that?Chairmen Priebus mentioned what an incredible job the new African American and Hispanic leaders did(what % did the gop get?).However the article goes on that most of the speech was done by the two white men …Henry Barbour (Haley’s nephew)and Ari Feiscer and the Puerto Rican woman didn’t speak.LMAO….these guys can’t be that stupid !

    Two of the more promising comments or ideas was that the DNC after the 1988 election went in a new direction and it was led by Bill Clinton and his Democrat Leadership Council.Maybe the gop needs an outside group formed of governors who can inject views from outside the beltway.North Carolina Gov. Pat McCrory stated the same thing when she said “All I sees every Sunday on the talk shows are the same talking heads over and over who have no idea of what is happening outside the beltway.”

    I close with a quote from a man named Barry who got me interested in politics……..no not that Barry!

    “Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice
    And moderation in the pursuit is no virtue”

    http://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/gop-leaders-insist-no-overhaul-needed-86757.html

  • Bob

    Correction; it should read

    “Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice
    and moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue”

  • Bill Hedges

    What did I say that Bob CONTINUES to play dodge ball over ???

    “Sort of akin to Hitler making a report on where the holocaust went wrong don’t you think?”

    Inflame your sentence with “Hitler ?” What “holocaust” ? Win 54 seats IN HOUSE IN 2010, but loss a mere 8 in Presidential election. IF buma skirt were SO LONG *** more *** seats should have been loss in House. Obvious voters picked & choice their candidates. Influx of voters, like more college students & blacks, were *** buma fans *** BUT not necessarily other demos…

    Just like ANY COMPANY Republican Party SHOULD put feelers out to improve THEIR PRODUCT. IMAGINE that is how our chairman did it in WI.

    Bob wrote:

    “By my count there have been at least seven budget/debt battles over the past two years in which republicans have either deferred,punted or caved.While they offer excuses from shrinking from the battle at hand they always emphatically promise to fight the next one.”

    President CAN AND HAS come up with a budget. Voted DOWN by both sides. DEMO SENATE, is suppose to, come up with budget in OCT. ___ Failure TO DO ___. HOUSE could pass 1,000,000 bills. Where are all the ones PASSED ??? WIPE the dust off and SEE.

    SO tell me, what should Republicans do ? You say they “deferred,punted or caved”. Should they JUST SAY NO. NO BUDGET ? GO into default ? Republicans & Bush WERE COMPLETELY CORRECT that regulations WERE NEEDED to lessen recession seen on the horizon. TELL ME, WHO got blamed for recession ??? Barney Frank and near all demos said NO PROBLEM.

    I’ll pull a House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R., Va.) & many, many other Republicans newest try to get THE VOTES needed to lift American’s blight ON YOU. Stalemate is getting us NOWHERE. YOU call it “deferred,punted or caved”.

    ********** ********** **********

    HOW BOB ARE YOU GOING TO GET THE VOTES TO clean up this mess ??? Stand by your guns with NO COMPROMISE ? No “deferred,punted or caved”… YOU GOING TO PREY COME ELECTION WE WILL CONTROL BOTH HOUSES ? Can we wait ???

    That terrible, terrible man who cheated on his wife, Newt, closed down government TWICE for short time. He was unfairly involved in Clinton’s impeachment. Clinton NOT HE who balanced budget and DID all the other good deeds. GREAT GUY was Bill C.. Newt’s THE BAD GUY. Who who who would GET BLAMED if WE SHUT DOWN government ? The longer SHUT DOWN the better for dems.

    SO BOB, solve the problem. Can e-mail solution to Republican Party Headquarters. THEY are asking for HELP… DON’T YOU “deferred,punted or caved” or IGNORE…

  • Bob

    IT’S NOT THE SUBJECT I’M IGNORING ….IT’S YOU !

    “Life is to short to deal…….” well you know whats next !

  • Bill Hedges

    A excuse is a excuse of course of course…

    What did I say that Bob CONTINUES to play dodge ball over ???

    “Sort of akin to Hitler making a report on where the holocaust went wrong don’t you think?”

    Inflame your sentence with “Hitler ?” What “holocaust” ? Win 54 seats IN HOUSE IN 2010, but loss a mere 8 in Presidential election. IF buma skirt were SO LONG *** more *** seats should have been loss in House. Obvious voters picked & choice their candidates. Influx of voters, like more college students & blacks, were *** buma fans *** BUT not necessarily other demos…

    Just like ANY COMPANY Republican Party SHOULD put feelers out to improve THEIR PRODUCT. IMAGINE that is how our chairman did it in WI.

    Bob wrote:

    “By my count there have been at least seven budget/debt battles over the past two years in which republicans have either deferred,punted or caved.While they offer excuses from shrinking from the battle at hand they always emphatically promise to fight the next one.”

    President CAN AND HAS come up with a budget. Voted DOWN by both sides. DEMO SENATE, is suppose to, come up with budget in OCT. ___ Failure TO DO ___. HOUSE could pass 1,000,000 bills. Where are all the ones PASSED ??? WIPE the dust off and SEE.

    SO tell me, what should Republicans do ? You say they “deferred,punted or caved”. Should they JUST SAY NO. NO BUDGET ? GO into default ? Republicans & Bush WERE COMPLETELY CORRECT that regulations WERE NEEDED to lessen recession seen on the horizon. TELL ME, WHO got blamed for recession ??? Barney Frank and near all demos said NO PROBLEM.

    I’ll pull a House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R., Va.) & many, many other Republicans newest try to get THE VOTES needed to lift American’s blight ON YOU. Stalemate is getting us NOWHERE. YOU call it “deferred,punted or caved”.

    ********** ********** **********

    HOW BOB ARE YOU GOING TO GET THE VOTES TO clean up this mess ??? Stand by your guns with NO COMPROMISE ? No “deferred,punted or caved”… YOU GOING TO PREY COME ELECTION WE WILL CONTROL BOTH HOUSES ? Can we wait ???

    That terrible, terrible man who cheated on his wife, Newt, closed down government TWICE for short time. He was unfairly involved in Clinton’s impeachment. Clinton NOT HE who balanced budget and DID all the other good deeds. GREAT GUY was Bill C.. Newt’s THE BAD GUY. Who who who would GET BLAMED if WE SHUT DOWN government ? The longer SHUT DOWN the better for dems.

    SO BOB, solve the problem. Can e-mail solution to Republican Party Headquarters. THEY are asking for HELP… DON’T YOU “deferred,punted or caved” or IGNORE…

  • Bob

    LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT the rnc determined that “smiling more on camera” will simply help their image and they should reach out more to minorities and then HAVE TWO OLD WHITE GUYS GIVE INTERVIEWS WHILE THE PUERTO RICAN WOMAN (Zori Fonalledas)APPOINTED TO THE REVIEW COMMITTEE STANDS BEHIND THEM NOT SAYING ANYTHING.

    AND YOU WANT ME TO give these idiots suggestions?

  • Bill Hedges

    Hot spot froze over. He specks TO ME…

    ANOTHER

    excuse is a excuse of course of course…

    What did I say that Bob CONTINUES to play dodge ball over ???

    “Sort of akin to Hitler making a report on where the holocaust went wrong don’t you think?”

    Inflame your sentence with “Hitler ?” What “holocaust” ? Win 54 seats IN HOUSE IN 2010, but loss a mere 8 in Presidential election. IF buma skirt were SO LONG *** more *** seats should have been loss in House. Obvious voters picked & choice their candidates. Influx of voters, like more college students & blacks, were *** buma fans *** BUT not necessarily other demos…

    Just like ANY COMPANY Republican Party SHOULD put feelers out to improve THEIR PRODUCT. IMAGINE that is how our chairman did it in WI.

    Bob wrote:

    “By my count there have been at least seven budget/debt battles over the past two years in which republicans have either deferred,punted or caved.While they offer excuses from shrinking from the battle at hand they always emphatically promise to fight the next one.”

    President CAN AND HAS come up with a budget. Voted DOWN by both sides. DEMO SENATE, is suppose to, come up with budget in OCT. ___ Failure TO DO ___. HOUSE could pass 1,000,000 bills. Where are all the ones PASSED ??? WIPE the dust off and SEE.

    SO tell me, what should Republicans do ? You say they “deferred,punted or caved”. Should they JUST SAY NO. NO BUDGET ? GO into default ? Republicans & Bush WERE COMPLETELY CORRECT that regulations WERE NEEDED to lessen recession seen on the horizon. TELL ME, WHO got blamed for recession ??? Barney Frank and near all demos said NO PROBLEM.

    I’ll pull a House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R., Va.) & many, many other Republicans newest try to get THE VOTES needed to lift American’s blight ON YOU. Stalemate is getting us NOWHERE. YOU call it “deferred,punted or caved”.

    ********** ********** **********

    HOW BOB ARE YOU GOING TO GET THE VOTES TO clean up this mess ??? Stand by your guns with NO COMPROMISE ? No “deferred,punted or caved”… YOU GOING TO PREY COME ELECTION WE WILL CONTROL BOTH HOUSES ? Can we wait ???

    That terrible, terrible man who cheated on his wife, Newt, closed down government TWICE for short time. He was unfairly involved in Clinton’s impeachment. Clinton NOT HE who balanced budget and DID all the other good deeds. GREAT GUY was Bill C.. Newt’s THE BAD GUY. Who who who would GET BLAMED if WE SHUT DOWN government ? The longer SHUT DOWN the better for dems.

    SO BOB, solve the problem. Can e-mail solution to Republican Party Headquarters. THEY are asking for HELP… DON’T YOU “deferred,punted or caved” or IGNORE…

  • Bill Hedges

    DARN… Bob “deferred,punted or caved” or IGNORE…

  • Bill Hedges

    Bob has a GREAT IMAGINATION in his “Bob Jan 26th, 2013 at 4:17 pm” comment. Bob should go to work on Steve Allen Show tomorrow. Same for “Bob Jan 26th, 2013 at 10:49 am”.

    Ignoring your own link points and making stuff up WHILE USING tidbit FACTS can be hilarious funny but NOT ACCUATE. Why you used NO QUOTES from link to back your statements…