Stepping In It, NRA Style

It not just a question of what you say, as an individual or as an organization, it’s what you choose to say given the options.

The NRA ad currently getting so much attention, is………….well…………..stupid! What is also clear is that Conservative commentators are not, by and large, condemning it. They are doing what the Left does; justifying the stupidity with; “well the other guy did it, so we can too”.

The NRA could have cited crime statistics where guns are severely limited. They could point to constitutionality, they could point to incidents were gun ownership has saved the lives of the innocent. They could have made any variety of points that had an opportunity to resonate with a broad cross section of people. They could have…………….wait for it…………..used salient facts!

Instead they attacked the President as an elitist; really? We should not, and most folks do not, have a problem with the President’s family being protected by armed Secret Service agents. Yet, this, given all of the available options to deliver a coherent message, is what the NRA chooses to focus on?

I support the 2nd amendment, I support individual gun rights but I do not, regardless of motivation or political orientation, support stupidity. The NRA ad is poor messaging, poor execution and above all, exceptionally poor judgment. There are a variety of messages that can be delivered. The arguments for legal gun ownership are persuasive. This is the best the NRA can do?

Perhaps in light of the 150,000 new members since the controversy heated up the NRA is feeling a bit elitist themselves. As I’ve advised any number of young folks along the way; be cautious, the moment you’re feeling bullet proof, or indispensible is the exact moment when you’re in jeopardy of doing something stupid.

A final bit of advice for the NRA; whatever you do, don’t hire the PR people the Republicans use to fix it, they don’t get it either.

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  • Bob

    Well maybe not another Jay Carney but another Tony Snowe wouldn’t be a bad idea!

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323468604578245770087839486.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop

  • Sometimes I think the NRA is afraid to advocate vociferously in FAVOR of more guns in the hands of lawful citizens. Don’t be on the defense, go on offense since we know for a fact what prevents crime and what doesn’t. The VCDL (www.vcdl.org) in Virginia has gone on the offense this legislative session trying to expand gun rights and CCW rights in Virginia to make schools and communities safer. The NRA is timid and trying to hit the President in an emotional way since that is the way the President fights.

    Use examples from states around the country, at least 18 of which allow some form of CCW holders to carry on school grounds. There are endless reasons and statistics to support expanded gun ownership by lawful citizens.

    Fight him with the statistics and concrete facts, that is something he is terrible at rebutting.

  • Bob

    Nate:
    The NRA could hardly be called timid in my book.On the national level they seem to be going at it alone.The so called Republican leadership isn’t covering the backs of the NRA.But lets face it the Republican leadership let the states and individual organizations fight Obamacare by themselves also.

    Granted the NRA could have made a commercial with more statistics but the American public deals in emotions when making decisions today not facts as witnessed in November.If the so called facts the president gives can be exposed as twisted lies which are only used for his self serving knee-jerk moralism all the better.One example of this is the statistic that 27 children are killed in America each week.What they fail to mention is this includes “children up to the age of 27” and who are killed in drug or gang related incidences.I read of three times in the past two weeks where guns saved people from intruders in their homes……parade them out to the MSM and have them tell their story.

    But the NRA can’t do it alone on a national scale.The Republican party needs responsible spokesmen to set an agenda and come out daily to counter attack the White House lies.Like in Le Miz I wouldn’t go to the barricades depending to much on their support however.

  • Bob, this is my example. But you’re right, the GOP leadership is non-existent on this.

    The first statement the NRA came out with following the Sandy Hook shooting was a suggestion of putting armed guards in schools. That is a valid argument to make, I’d even agree with it. However, that takes time, resources, etc.. to actually make it happen.

    IMHO, the solution is to call for an end to gun-free zones and let CCW permit holders into schools, inevitably making them less safe for evil-doers, more safe for children. That would be brutally attacked by gun-haters but that’s fine, the statistics are on our side.

    I felt the NRA was afraid to push for advancing individual gun rights and instead went into defensive mode.

    Nonetheless, I support the NRA, I know they need resources to fight this on the national level.

    I’m only comparing what the NRA said versus what the state-level VCDL said. The VCDL took a less defensive position and is pushing expanded rights for CCW holders in Virginia.

  • Bob

    The best line I heard so far was from a blogger who said:

    “Vice President Biden is so stupid he wants to limit power point presentations to seven bullets.”

  • Bill Hedges

    January 16, 2013 7:30 PM

    “GOP leaders don’t shut the door on Obama’s gun plan”

    “(CBS News) WASHINGTON – Republican leaders did not shut the door on the president’s gun control proposals on Wednesday. Some ideas, like universal background checks, do have Second Amendment rights of law-abiding citizens.” support. But any move to limit the kinds of guns people can own is going to be met with strong resistance.”

    “Republican Senator Marco Rubio said in a statement: “Nothing the president is proposing would have stopped the massacre at Sandy Hook. President Obama is targeting the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding citizens.”

    “The Republican Speaker of the House John Boehner said he will wait to see what the Democrat-controlled Senate can pass. Even that won’t be easy, however, because there are a number of Democrats from southern and western states who have a long record of supporting gun rights.”

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-57564391/gop-leaders-dont-shut-the-door-on-obamas-gun-plan/

    Our choice for WH said LITTLE on many of the subjects of the day. He said that gave him room for compromise by doing SO. If I recall correctly, as Gov., he had like 68% demo in legislator. Mitt WAS ABLE to work with demos. IS THIS THE POLICY going on with guns ? With Senator Marco Rubio setting a parameter ? Our Speaker statement made as well as by NRA, makes better than even odds WILL NOT PASS RESTRICTIVE, UNREASONABLE GUN CONTROL. I DO NOT FIND it repugnant how we are handing this latest gun controversy. Smart instead of over-reacting. Save the BIG BOMBS if/when needed.

    LET the BUM attack the “Second Amendment rights of law-abiding citizens” IF he dares. We would not BE ALONE in showing rage if he does…

  • Bob

    Nate:
    We are hardly alone in our distrust of Republican leadership(?)

    “Rasmussen poll dated 15 January 2013 states “63% of GOP Voters Think Republicans in Congress Out of Touch”

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/january_2013/63_of_gop_voters_think_republicans_in_congress_out_of_touch

  • Bob

    Gov.Christie making his Republican Presidential nomination for the 2016 shovel ready in a “Politico” article entitled “Chris Christie Slams NRA’s Obama Daughters Ad”

    http://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/chris-christie-slams-nra-obama-daughters-ad-86365.html?hp=f1

  • Bill Hedges

    I must of missed it Bob, where did Nate give you this idea ?

    “Nate:”
    “We are hardly alone in our distrust of Republican leadership(?)”

    Where did Nate say “distrust of Republican leadership(?)” ?? I see:

    “Nate Jan 17th, 2013 at 2:12 pm”

    Bob, this is my example. But you’re right, the GOP leadership is non-existent on this.”

  • Bill Hedges

    ps

    1. Concerning your next to last link, “distrust” IS NOT the same as “Out of Touch”

    2. Conserning your last link:

    A. About your latest link. I disagree with Chris Christie:

    “New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie blasted the National Rifle Association for an ad that pointed out President Barack Obama’s daughters have armed protection, calling it “reprehensible” and saying elected officials’ kids should be off-limits.”

    http://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/chris-christie-slams-nra-obama-daughters-ad-86365.html#ixzz2II1LOJ2R”

    The NRA ad was NOT TALKING ABOUT BUMA’S CHILDRENS themselves. JUST THAT they had “ armed protection”. Why can’t other children in schools NOT HAVE THE SAME protection..

    No invasion of buma’s family. We ALL KNOW buma has children. Christie remark was “reprehensible”.

    B. About this “Gov.Christie making his Republican Presidential nomination for the 2016 …”

    Seems A L I T T L E E A R L Y to be saying/claiming THAT. Article is not really about guns nor buma. Is about talking about politician children according to Christie. NOT THEIR PERSONAL LIFE at that…

  • Bob

    Never to early to worry about job security in Washington it seems:

    An article in “The Hill’ by Alexandra Jaffe entitled “Republicans Worry They’ll Lose the House If They Botch Fiscal Talks” dated 17th January 2013

    http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/277655-republicans-worry-house-majority-in-danger-if-gop-botches-fiscal-talks#ixzz2IFZ7Njh0

  • Bill Hedges

    I hope Nate lets us know tomorrow if he trust OR NOT our leadership”:

    I must of missed it Bob, where did Nate give you this idea ?

    “Nate:”
    “We are hardly alone in our distrust of Republican leadership(?)”

    Where did Nate say “distrust of Republican leadership(?)” ?? I see:

    “Nate Jan 17th, 2013 at 2:12 pm”

    “Bob, this is my example. But you’re right, the GOP leadership is non-existent on this.”

  • Bob

    Ask yourself what was the biggest problem facing America immediatly after the election but before the murders in Conn? Jobs and the economy ….the same problems we have had for the past four years that NOTHING WAS DONE ABOUT.Besides them we have another debate about the deby ceiling looming in the not to distant future.

    It seems the President is focusing on the marginal but divisive issues to divert attention from the elephant in the room.According to a current Gallop poll entitled “Most Important Problems” guns and gun control only come in with 4% while the economy and jobs still rank the most important.But this administrations motto is “Never let a crisis go to waste” especially when you can destroy one of your biggest enermies.

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/1675/most-important-problem.aspx

  • Bill Hedges

    Bob wrote, speaking about“Jobs and the economy”, “we have had for the past four years that NOTHING WAS DONE ABOUT”. OH, they did something. IT just didn’t work. Remember stimulus plan ???

    There is little buma will do to improve the economy. His way doesn’t work if raising taxes is HIS WAY. WE RAISED TAXES ON CIGS to stop A ACTIVITY. Only thing that WORKED each time has been tax cuts for rich. BUT BUT BUT, the hatred toward business from EPA regulations to bumacare may be TOO MUCH even for proper TAX CUTS to do its MAGIC.

    I hope Nate lets us know tomorrow if he trust OR NOT our leadership”. NO WHERE HAVE I seen where he wrote he didn’t trust them AS BOB WROTE…

  • Bob

    Nate here’s a link for your twitter:

    On”Nightline’ which aired 26th December President Obama says “I ran for re-election so that I could have men with guns around my daughters”

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/12/27/Obama-I-Ran-So-I-Could-Have-Men-With-Guns-Around-My-Daughters

  • Bill Hedges

    Your link points to buma’s sense of humor. Knew that when he said he would cut debt in half when he should have said would double had he been serious.

    I hope Nate lets us know tomorrow if he trust OR NOT our leadership”. NO WHERE HAVE I seen where he wrote he didn’t trust them AS BOB WROTE…

  • Do I trust the Republican leadership?

    Not to negotiate with Obama, they’re terrible at it. We are headed for something resembling Greece. Government needs to spend less and start shrinking yesterday but Republicans can’t articulate that and can’t hold the line on spending. If they do not adamantly explain that Obama has put our future at risk by massive spending and debt, then we need new leaders who can and will make that argument.

    Republicans retained control of the House for a reason. They are there for a reason, for what they ran on.

  • Bob

    Nate:

    I thought maybe you hired a secretary since someone was answering my post directed to you.

  • Bill Hedges

    Bob

    You spoke for Nate.

    You can address your comments to the MAN IN THE MOON if you like. This is a open forum. OBVIOUSLY THIS “secretary” remark is a distraction. Meat of THE MATTER, you put your words in Nate’s mouth. Too often when speaking you give your opinion saying WE believe this & that. Is you voice that unsatisfactory it needs priming for importance ???

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