Run Nancy Run

Speaker Pelosi, word has it, will run for Democratic Minority Leader, reprising her 2004 election to that position. 

Bad news for Democrats!  Nancy, according to Rasmussen, is a leader with disapproval ratings of 60% including 52% very unfavorable.  She is and has been a specific target (Fire Pelosi) of the GOP, a major face of Progressive programs and the midwife to the much derided Obama Care (more accurately, Pelosi Care); she of pork barrel stimulus spending, Cap & Trade and Financial Regulation not to mention dozens of bills that were never considered by the Senate.  She is the face of the now rejected four year Progressive legislative program. 

Nancy seems to have every intention of hanging in there.  Despite members of her own party fleeing the Pelosi legislative program and committing not to support her return to leadership; Nancy soldiers on.  The elections barely over Rep. Heath Schuler announced he would challenge her.  Nancy remains unrepentant; you go girl!

Her platform: “We have no intention of allowing our great achievements to be rolled back.” (AP)  

The Minority Leader retains a lot of clout including committee appointments which, if history is a guide, will be determined based on who deserves a spanking.  Ask Rep. Jane Harmon who was sent to the wilderness when she was not appointed head of the Intelligence Committee despite being the ranking and likely most knowledgeable member of that committee.  She got on the wrong side of Nancy, California roots notwithstanding!

Will Nancy’s recalcitrance split Democrats further?  Likely answer; you betcha!  Apparently, by Nancy’s logic, or ego drive, being clobbered in a general election is just not enough of a PR nightmare.  Maybe it is the inability to let go of power.  Maybe passing the torch to Steny Hoyer is unthinkable, although Steny is not the most popular guy in Dem Town either.  Maybe she thinks she can lead a comeback.  Maybe she want to punish Republicans.  Maybe Botox is covered under the Congressional health care plan.

Nancy has presided over the most significant loss of seats since 1938 as widely reported, yet the motivation to go quietly into the political good night appears to be absent.  She will apparently follow the footsteps of Messrs. Carter and Clinton. 

The comparative to Nancy hanging in there will be ..……wait for it ..…… George W. Bush.  GW refuses to engage politically, cites respect for the office as part of his motivation, does not think it’s appropriate to criticize his successor and continues to demonstrate considerable class.  Who was first to Fort Hood?  Who went without photographers?

So, Nancy go ahead, give into baser urges, split your party, motivate a leadership fight.  You may win, and by doing so you will surely lose!  Just what the President needs!

  • JD

    Yeah, I was a little shocked to see this. I thought she was going to move into a sudo-power position where it would appease party loyalists but also have her move out of the lime light.

  • JD

    On a side note, I was shocked to hear the new speaker of the house, John Boehner, claim he wants 100% repeal of the healthcare bill. I have to say, as you put it Landreaux, i don’t like the “coded” language going on. I think it is that kind of stance this is going to lead to more problems in Washington then Pelosi as Minority Leader.

    I think the republican party to hold on to the “no” position would be disastrous.

  • Landreaux

    Agree to a point. There are some aspects of health care that should remain especially pre-existing conditions. But I would estimate 80% of it has to go including the 3.6% tax on real estate sales that kicks in in 2013, I think.

  • “I think the republican party to hold on to the “no” position would be disastrous.”

    America was the “party of No” in the election we had a few days ago. They said No to ObamaCare, No to cap-and-tax and No to increased government spending.

    You’re one of the “Republicans need to compromise” chorus in the media now. Obama needs to stop being the President of “No” when it comes to considering ANY Republican ideas.

  • Bill Hedges

    Landreaux

    Allowing “pre-existing conditions” sounds like a great concept. For raising the cost of health care for all of us that buy insurance JUST IN CASE.

    Good healthy person awaits bad news then promptly signs on the dotted line for full coverage the day Doctor gives him the bad test results. He paid the penalties previously which likely the government keeps, the insurance company gets stuck with the bills. Which those insured must pay. Someone always pays. Else insurance company goes belly up..

    For the privilege to join when you need serious health but not before, those of us who fair & stay insured, have their premiums jacked up to cover the bad news I WANT MY INSURANCE NOW. I have heart condition, big “C”, etc. Well guess what, more might just drop health care. Waiting for bad news to come. Raising premiums more.

    This NEWBIE enrolled insured gets all the benefits that I have. Though I have been enrolled all my life. My insurance premiums been raised to pay for his right to go without.

    I guess I am to feel a tingle in my soul that he receives a heart operation and he lives another 20 years. He doesn’t lose his saved money if any, or not placed in overwhelming debt. No $$$ amount can be placed on life.

    Old way, non-insured could go to emergency room, without health card or cash, might get a pill then released. A cost to us all yes, but minimal by comparison.

    Call me cold hearted. I call myself real. I say you reap what you sow. Each day we make choices. Each has a consequences. One puts a value on their own life through choices. I don’t want to give you the right to make me pay through the nose, for you.

    We all know what happens. The expensive stuff gets rationed. New miracle drugs don’t come down the pharmaceutical R&D anymore. A sniffle demands a Doctor visit.

    If obamacare truly saved money, we would have it 100% now, not more than 4 years after passed. Barry wants a second term. Why the need to steal $$$ from other BROKE social programs.

    Feel good bankruptcy…

  • Bill,

    You’re right on the pre-existing conditions. Most insurance companies are covered by state laws which allow them to NOT cover pre-existing conditions for 6 or 12 months before they have to begin covering them.

    Essentially it is the same as driving your car uninsured, then totaling your car, then buying insurance the next day to try and have insurance pay for the repair.

    It isn’t heartless, it’s just economic reality and it will jack up rates for people like you who have been paying steadily for years.

    Maybe a maximum amount of time the newly insured must pay their premium before their pre-existing condition must be covered, some kind of compromise perhaps.

    Here’s another possible compromise. Perhaps insurance has to cover pre-existing conditions, however, the insured party must be contractually obligated to keep that insurance plan for 2 year, 5 years etc.. Just like a cell phone plan. You get covered but you must continue paying your share of premiums. I don’t know how the math works out, especially on costly treatments but there are ideas.

  • Bill Hedges

    I wish there was a easy answer. Taken cared of from conception through death. Every hangnail cared for with TLC. Cuban health care is no utopia. Not Canada nor England. Restrictions and limitations apply. Cost overruns for sure. I still wait to hear the ideal Nation wide health plan. What Country has it and how does it work.

    About the only time Americans accepted controls was during the big wars. Limits on gas, tires, victory gardens. Recycling was big back then.

    We are a innovative Country. Just read manufacturing was not so much loss of jobs to China, but rote jobs done mechanically now. A reason why American workers are so productive, enabling high wages.

    Why I think Republican plan works best for us.

    A reasonable sunset clause in new health coverage. ½ to 1 full year before prior heath conditions are covered. If covered recently but insurance went bust, then pre-existing conditions are waved if insured in short order. My employer insurance had such provisions. I find that reasonable and fair.

    Your second option of 2-5 year required insured after the fact, with health company picking up pre existing cost I don’t see flying well. That could mean $100,00’s of expense. Depending on the condition. No/little hope of recovery of cost from insured. Insured would balk at high premiums for paying off high bills. Not fair & square for common good of the group. They would ultimate bare the cost.

    Profit margin is low for health companies. Each year loss/profit is figured to determine the following year premium. A educated guess method. Obamacare rules blows the system sky high. Not mentioning throwing people onto medicare and Medicaid. Most likely Feds not funding the cost to medicare and the States…

  • Landreaux

    Here is another reasonable position. Kill the existing bill, replace it with market orientated legislation that breaks down artificial barriers, see how far it goes and commit to doing something for what’s left after the free markets have been allowed to work. It won’t take more than a year to make the determination. Medicare can act as a bridge during the transition.

  • “Kill the existing bill, replace it with market orientated legislation that breaks down artificial barriers, see how far it goes and commit to doing something for what’s left after the free markets have been allowed to work.”

    That is the real bottom line which hasn’t been attempted. I hate it when libs argue that “the free market got us into this health care situation” when in fact the opposite is true.

    There are so many levels of federal and state regulation on health insurance that it has never been left to run a course in the free market.

    There are wise, innovative ways to let the market create the availability, not the government.

  • Bill Hedges

    Medicare cost me $ 96 a month. That with 46 years or there about of paying into medicare in my paychecks. Drawing from that insurance the last 3 years. New medicare qualified must pay more. Am sure mine will rise as well.

    I mostly like Landreaux latest remark combined with Nate. Conservatives can honestly differ trying to solve a complicated issue.

    Although military have collapsible temporary bridges. government bridges rarely lead NO WHERE but stand forever, until the supports rot away and bridge falls into the brook. I therefore reject “Medicare can act as a bridge during the transition”. Likelihood it would become a institution.

    Insurance companies are dropping coverage due to health changes. Such a for children. There is no SPECIAL NEEDS PROGRAM for me in my area. High risk State plans in deep do-do. We know the shape of medicare and medicaid. Fear of illegals coverage. We must pay for illegals birth costs and make them citizens as well. Need for abortion to be considered a optional surgery, thereby not covered unless private special insurance for that can be purchased.

    There was little done on tort reform because trial lawyers are second largest contributors to Democrat Party. Government now is financing teacher and car union retirements and health plans. Two groups buying Democrat care in elections.

    The government pond is poisoned.

    I agree with Nate. Why should only certain insurance companies exist in Mo. INNOVATION ALLOWS FOR HIGHER PRODUCTIVITY OF WORKERS and thus earn better pay. Big, heavy, expensive betamax VCR’s has been replaced with small, light weight devises. Beta is a relic in the Smithsonian Institute.

    Congress in 2011 will be a political montage. Old and new. Fear of repeat blunders of especially the past two years. Some diehard liberals will not change, but even some Democrats has joined us in the past, new Democrats did campaign more conservative. We just might have a consensus in both Houses. Barry just might be another Bill Clinton when push comes to shove. And his agenda is but a bad dream.

    Though true mood of new Congress has yet to blossom, I have hope a new day cometh toward fiscal responsibility and a time to truly solve our Nation’s unemployment & health care problems.

    No simple miracle.

    Greatest event would be swift failure of obamacare in the Supreme Court. What a blessing for our reform measures in Congress…

  • JD

    I don’t want to sound like a “lib” but you guys are all forgetting one thing… American Healthcare is run by insurance companies. Essentially, they have a strong hold on the industry and hold both the customer and the doctors ransom.

    The health of this nation is going down, not up, and it isn’t because of government intervention but rather the way we do business. The simple truth is companies are covering their employees less and less than 20 years ago. Pensions are non-existent and company retirement contributions are down half as much and yet we want to base everything off of employer based healthcare.

    If the republican’s can’t except these realities then they will not have me on their side. I know you may disagree here but the health and education of a nation is in all of our interests.

  • Bill Hedges

    Without looking up facts in links, my few numbers are just rough estimates.

    1. “American Healthcare is run by insurance companies”

    Nate wrote, “I hate it when libs argue that “the free market got us into this health care situation” when in fact the opposite is true.”.

    States limit which companies can operate there. As well as the plans.

    Medicare and Medicaid pay maybe 80 % on the $$$. Guess who makes up the difference, insurance companies.

    As Nate points out, “There are so many levels of federal and state regulation on health insurance that it has never been left to run a course in the free market”.

    2. “we want to base everything off of employer based healthcare”

    We have been discussing changes needed to be made. Have you ever read the Republican health plan ? Did you know regulations and cost of obamacare are causing massive exit from company health insurance. Obama been giving wholesale WAVERS to companies. Tax for Caterpillar like $$$ 400,000. AT&T like $$$ 1 billion. Both have health care, FOR NOW.

    Now JD some simple questions. What Nation has the best health plan and how does it work ??? Is that Country affected by restriction and how prompt is essential care for things like cancer. Are expensive drugs supplied ?What’s the cost and how is it paid for ???

  • JD

    Bill, I completely understand why you think the status quo is acceptable since you are retired and worked in a completely different day and age as far as these things go. Unfortunately, I don’t have the drive or will to hash this out with you too much because you, as usual, just stand opposed for oppositions sake. It is really sad that we have real issues facing this nation and people just want to deny their existence or play them off along party lines. If it is about the will of the people then we must agree that a compromise has to be put in place because the US is divided on our views.

    As for other nations, I won’t go down that path with you other than to say go visit a few. Healthcare and mortality rates are way more complex than just what country are you from or who has the winning system.

  • Bill Hedges

    Try reading my comments. I never gave impression “status quo is acceptable “. Do quote me where you got that idea. PLEASE…

    I Have looked at other Countries and they are in shambles. Found NO good example.

    Cuba prime example. Overruns, debt, etc. Cuba recently fired a bunch of people and told them to become entrepreneurs.

    I have never found a person who could answer. I do go to a liberal site. They pass as you did. Just making it real JD. If obamcare was great and all they claimed it to be we would not wait 4 years to have full obamacare. obama would have explained. Pelosi would have explained. It passed Nancy.

    Many Democrats might be in office come new year if obamcare was ALL THEY SAY IT IS and in working order now. It is NOT.

    All I wanted was a good National health plan. None provided. If you can’t come up with ONE, then what is great about obamacare ? Again, I expect NO ANSWER from you. Liberal site I get no reply from anyone wanting obamacare. They simple dismiss as you do…

  • JD

    Switzerland is a good example Bill. But as I said, there is alot to the answer then just “who is the best”. Perfect example is the US. You can find numbers to support both arguements… more people in the US die from prostate cancer in the US then in the UK but more people live in the US with breast cancer then in the UK.

    DO you see where I am going….

  • JD

    Sorry, had to leave to pick by brother from the airport but just to reitterate what I was saying. The reason, most intellegent people don’t answer your question is because it isn’t black and white like you are suggesting which was my point from the beginning.

  • Bill Hedges

    I never said “status quo is acceptable “.

    “The Swiss Health Care Model Won’t Work in the United States”:

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/10/the_swiss_health_care_model_wo.html

    Cancer is more prevalent in America is how caused by our health care ? We all have cancer cells. Our diets and other factors affecting our immune system affects cancer. I do not have expertise in this area. I blame the individual not our health care. I know medicare allows prostate examination for older persons. There are breast examines. A shot as well.

    As Nate, Landreaux, and I have discussed free enterprise of health care.

    We are a independent people, not for required health care as Swiss has. Mandatory 10 % income health premium payment. I believe Supreme Court will outlaw obamacare, but that is my personal opinion.

    Here is Republican plan:

    http://www.gop.gov/solutions/healthcare

    “In Canada, a move toward a private healthcare option”

    http://articles.latimes.com/2009/sep/27/nation/na-healthcare-canada27

    “CBO Director Says ObamaCare Will Drive People From the Workforce”

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2615469/posts

    England Plans to Decentralize Healthcare | Print | E-mail

    Written by Raven Clabough
    Tuesday, 27 July 2010 10:15

    “The National Review notes the irony in England’s recognition of “the importance of the doctor-patient relationship just as the United States is taking a sharp left turn toward more centralized government control over healthcare.”

    http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/world-mainmenu-26/europe-mainmenu-35/4146-england-plans-to-decentralize-healthcare

    “Nor were the problems I identified unique to Canada—they characterized all government-run health-care systems. Consider the recent British controversy over a cancer patient who tried to get an appointment with a specialist, only to have it canceled—48 times. More than 1 million Britons must wait for some type of care, with 200,000 in line for longer than six months. A while back, I toured a public hospital in Washington, D.C., with Tim Evans, a senior fellow at the Centre for the New Europe. The hospital was dark and dingy, but Evans observed that it was cleaner than anything in his native England. In France, the supply of doctors is so limited that during an August 2003 heat wave—when many doctors were on vacation and hospitals were stretched beyond capacity—15,000 elderly citizens died. Across Europe, state-of-the-art drugs aren’t available. And so on.
    But single-payer systems—confronting dirty hospitals, long waiting lists, and substandard treatment—are starting to crack. Today my book wouldn’t seem so provocative to Canadians, whose views on public health care are much less rosy than they were even a few years ago. Canadian newspapers are now filled with stories of people frustrated by long delays for care:”

    http://www.city-journal.org/html/17_3_canadian_healthcare.html

  • JD

    Why is it that when I talk to you, Bill, I feel like I am wasting my breath. Again, I don’t think you can came compare nation to nation exactly on the basis of “Better”. Yet you still insist on discussing it.

    This is my biggest concern for this nation. The in ablilty to meet in the middle.

  • Bill Hedges

    America has higher cancer ???

    JD says ” Healthcare and mortality rates are way more complex than just what country are you from or who has the winning system”.

    “10 Surprising Facts about American Health Care
    Brief Analyses | Health”

    Tuesday, March 24, 2009

    ” Fact No. 1: Americans have better survival rates than Europeans for common cancers.[1] Breast cancer mortality is 52 percent higher in Germany than in the United States, and 88 percent higher in the United Kingdom. Prostate cancer mortality is 604 percent higher in the U.K. and 457 percent higher in Norway. The mortality rate for colorectal cancer among British men and women is about 40 percent higher.

    Fact No. 2: Americans have lower cancer mortality rates than Canadians.[2] Breast cancer mortality is 9 percent higher, prostate cancer is 184 percent higher and colon cancer mortality among men is about 10 percent higher than in the United States.

    Fact No. 3: Americans have better access to treatment for chronic diseases than patients in other developed countries.[3] Some 56 percent of Americans who could benefit are taking statins, which reduce cholesterol and protect against heart disease. By comparison, of those patients who could benefit from these drugs, only 36 percent of the Dutch, 29 percent of the Swiss, 26 percent of Germans, 23 percent of Britons and 17 percent of Italians receive them.

    Fact No. 4: Americans have better access to preventive cancer screening than Canadians.[4] Take the proportion of the appropriate-age population groups who have received recommended tests for breast, cervical, prostate and colon cancer:

    •Nine of 10 middle-aged American women (89 percent) have had a mammogram, compared to less than three-fourths of Canadians (72 percent).
    •Nearly all American women (96 percent) have had a pap smear, compared to less than 90 percent of Canadians.
    •More than half of American men (54 percent) have had a PSA test, compared to less than 1 in 6 Canadians (16 percent).
    •Nearly one-third of Americans (30 percent) have had a colonoscopy, compared with less than 1 in 20 Canadians (5 percent).
    Fact No. 5: Lower income Americans are in better health than comparable Canadians. Twice as many American seniors with below-median incomes self-report “excellent” health compared to Canadian seniors (11.7 percent versus 5.8 percent). Conversely, white Canadian young adults with below-median incomes are 20 percent more likely than lower income Americans to describe their health as “fair or poor.”[5]

    Fact No. 6: Americans spend less time waiting for care than patients in Canada and the U.K. Canadian and British patients wait about twice as long – sometimes more than a year – to see a specialist, to have elective surgery like hip replacements or to get radiation treatment for cancer.[6] All told, 827,429 people are waiting for some type of procedure in Canada.[7] In England, nearly 1.8 million people are waiting for a hospital admission or outpatient treatment.[8]

    Fact No. 7: People in countries with more government control of health care are highly dissatisfied and believe reform is needed. More than 70 percent of German, Canadian, Australian, New Zealand and British adults say their health system needs either “fundamental change” or “complete rebuilding.”[9]

    Fact No. 8: Americans are more satisfied with the care they receive than Canadians. When asked about their own health care instead of the “health care system,” more than half of Americans (51.3 percent) are very satisfied with their health care services, compared to only 41.5 percent of Canadians; a lower proportion of Americans are dissatisfied (6.8 percent) than Canadians (8.5 percent).[10]

    Fact No. 9: Americans have much better access to important new technologies like medical imaging than patients in Canada or the U.K. Maligned as a waste by economists and policymakers naïve to actual medical practice, an overwhelming majority of leading American physicians identified computerized tomography (CT) and magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) as the most important medical innovations for improving patient care during the previous decade.[11] [See the table.] The United States has 34 CT scanners per million Americans, compared to 12 in Canada and eight in Britain. The United States has nearly 27 MRI machines per million compared to about 6 per million in Canada and Britain.[12]

    Fact No. 10: Americans are responsible for the vast majority of all health care innovations.[13] The top five U.S. hospitals conduct more clinical trials than all the hospitals in any other single developed country.[14] Since the mid-1970s, the Nobel Prize in medicine or physiology has gone to American residents more often than recipients from all other countries combined.[15] In only five of the past 34 years did a scientist living in America not win or share in the prize. Most important recent medical innovations were developed in the United States.[16] [See the table.]”

    “Conclusion. Despite serious challenges, such as escalating costs and the uninsured, the U.S. health care system compares favorably to those in other developed countries”.

    http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba649

  • Bill Hedges

    CONTINUED…

    “meet in the middle” is not the goal. Certainly NOT my HOPE. Having the BEST HEATH CARE is. Mediocrity is not GOOD.

    Yes to cost reductions…

  • “If the republican’s can’t except these realities then they will not have me on their side. I know you may disagree here but the health and education of a nation is in all of our interests.”

    JD, while I appreciate your honesty in regard to coming over to our (republican) side, I refuse to bend and twist my politics to accommodate you or any other undecided. I would be wasting time and resources trying to convince you that our plan on healthcare is the better option. Just like with the Regan movement, stand strong with conservative principals and the undecideds will fall in line. When I’m recruiting new members to my Republican Women’s Club I don’t badger or beg, I simply sell the club by informing and educating. Its their decision to join and that is why my membership grows at an impressive rate each and every month. http://www.lrwcva.org

    This being said, Republicans have yet to put forward a good solid plan on healthcare. My personal opinion, these republican cowards and elitist were too concerned about winning an election rather then saving the healthcare system. They let the democrats fall on their own sword and kept out of the way well the ship was sinking. With the exception of a few, most republicans out of fear of losing their seat, did not put a comprehensive healthcare bill forward b/c they were afraid of the fall out. Cowards. People voted republican on Tuesday not b/c we had the better ideas, but b/c they were fead up with failing liberal policy. I do believe if someone would have stepped forward and taken the lead on healthcare for the Republican Party, we would have seen the greatest gain in seats, ever. This goes back to what I was saying above, we cannot please everyone and nor should we try. If we stopped worrying about compromise and bi-partisanship and introduced a bill that was straight forward, people like you would follow. We didn’t run on our conservative ideals, instead we hid.

    The most important part of reforming healthcare should solely be tort reform. JD, you mention above that insurance companies run our system, I just don’t feel this is correct. As a matter of fact, with Obama care we have already seen the impact on insurance companies with them having to raise their rates, Drug companies having to halt production on new medications b/c of the impact of Obama care. Already we are starting to see the fall out of this new legislation affect our rates as well as new medications. Doesn’t really seem that we’re “progressing” now does it, but I thought you liberals had progressive views. I’m thinking that if Republicans are the party of “NO” then Democrats are the party of “DESTRUCTION”.

  • Why is it that when I talk to you, Bill, I feel like I am wasting my breath. Again, I don’t think you can came compare nation to nation exactly on the basis of “Better”. Yet you still insist on discussing it. This is my biggest concern for this nation. The in ablilty to meet in the middle.

  • Coleen Sosa,

    Myself and many feel your pain. This is why there are only about 4 to 5 people who ever comment on the postings here. 🙂

  • Bill Hedges

    Coleen Sosa no where in this article did I talk with you. Unless you are JD. Your argument sure sounds like JD.

    Comparing Countries shows how we are better. Argues points made by JD. Why that type of health care fix is not for U.S.A..

    Kendale you “feel the pain” of Coleen ? Good thing since you both have same last name. Husband & wife ???

    Liberals are not doing well under liberal Presdent and Congress. Not much liberals are able to defend. Liberals numbers are dropping while Conservative are growing. Liberal site I go to has less and less liberal comments. Sites will just Conservatives is boring in agreement.