Just a Matter of Time

It was not so long ago that opposition to the President’s agenda was overt racism. It had to be that, the President was so brilliant, so enthralling, so cool that it simply could not have been anything else.  Opposition to seating Senator Burruss was racism as well despite the pale of corruption that surrounded his appointment. Charges of racism came not just from sycophants Rosie O’Donnell and Jeanine Garofalo; charges also came, you may remember, from members of Congress directed not only at the general public but at the leaders of their own party, specifically Leader Reid. 

Charges of racism became counterproductive resulting in a backlash sufficient to motivate Democrats to put them aside for a while.  Now opponents of health care are terrorists.  It was just a matter of time!  The horrific weapons of these terrorists are, wait for it………………… voice mail messages. VM is of course much more dangerous than the actual bullets fired at Republican Eric Cantor’s office. 

The motivations for the latest diatribe of tedious name calling are so obvious as to be childish.  Democrats are faced with two fundamental problems.  The latest Gallup poll shows a 56% and rising disapproval rating for the health care bill.  The President and Speaker wrong in assuming that once passed all would be well.  The political jeopardy surrounding the bill’s passage is not dissipating; Congressional supporters are flailing about for some way, any way to change the subject hoping that charges of terrorism would do the trick. 

Problem two; they simply don’t know what to do with a grassroots movement  not of their own manufacture. Attacking a movement with no well defined central leadership is a tall order.  The attacks, by definition, have to fall on the people involved, hundreds of thousands of them.  Very little political capital is to be gained attacking your own citizens. Tea Party folks are a threat of still unknown dimension, and the unknown produces fear.  The discontent is not going to disappear any time soon, nor will the unemployment rate. 

The strategic approach seems to be the adoption of the “na, na, na, na, na, na, na, you’re a terrorist ………… and you’re mother is ugly too” strategy.  

Of the 40,000 people in Washington on the eve of health care passage, (I was there) there were less than classy utterances, there were also dirt looks sufficient to tamp them down directed at the folks who uttered them.  You have to believe that Democrats, having hurled so many classless utterances themselves, (Racist, Terrorist, Astroturf, angry mob, etc) would not be terribly bothered, knowing the name game for what it is.  But no, the race to the podium was on.  If Arnold was on his game these days he would have referred to the podium seeking, whiners as “girly-men”.  I mean, come on folks, voice mail! 

The real story is that Democrats finally got around to checking their voice mail at all.  That would be the voice mail which had been full and dysfunctional for days before the bill passage.  “We’re sorry, your Congressperson has no courage and no intention of talking to you, therefore we’ve left the voice mail box full please call someone else, or press 3 for the direct“terror threat hot  line.”

Of course, a delegation of Democrats parading through the protesting crowd with the speaker carrying a massive gavel was not an attempt at incitement or the application of the “na, na, na,” strategy.  To the best of my ability to survey the media there were no headlines reading; “Speaker taunts crowd”.  However, the unsubstantiated story of racial epithets by Representative Andre Carson was immediately reported without verification and discussed for days as “evidence enough” of the “terrorist” threat.

No discussion of the organized violence in Seattle or Geneva that surrounded WTO meetings.  No discussion of eco-terrorism.  No review of the violence associated with the SEIU.  No review of the violence predicated by the President’s associates.  No discussion of left wing think tank speakers agreeing with Mao that political power comes from the barrel of a gun.

It was just a matter of time, you terrorist you!

  • D.D.Mao

    As President Reagan said “Well there you go again”

    I’m giving serious thought about changing my sign on name!

    Great piece. I always enjoy reading your columns.

  • landreaux

    D.D.

    I fear you have an unavoidable screen name, but I would not change it. Thanks for the chuckle and thanks for the support.

  • We weren’t able to be downtown on the eve of the bill’s passage though I did spend that Sunday afternoon sending faxes to the district offices of undecided congressman.

    Tried phone calls first, everything was solidly busy in DC. Next I tried faxes to their DC Capitol Hill office and that was jammed also, only busy signals.

    I settled on sending faxes to every district office fax number I could find.

    I also discovered many of them disconnected their fax machines since it would just ring and ring to their fax number, no fax machine answering. Furthermore, many connected and then gave an error which I’m betting was related to their machine being out of paper and/or toner because of the deluge of faxes.

    America spoke and they chose not to listen. There is no question as to whether or not they heard it, they have chose to ignore it at their own peril.

  • JD

    I still don’t get it. What is so wrong with saying that one is not for death threats on Voicemail period? I mean, if I as a Dem and you as a Republican do so then we can keep this fight clean.

    However, if when this question is asked and either party (instead of making a stand) only say look at the other side then where does that leave us?

    Both sides are guilty of doing it but so what. Since when do two wrongs make a right and, secondly, there can be no solid converstion between two people who have thier swords drawn.

    “When you teach a man to hate and fear his brother, when you teach that he is a lesser man because of his color or his beliefs or the policies he pursues, when you teach that those who differ from you threaten your freedom or your job or your family, then you also learn to confront others not as fellow citizens but as enemies – to be met not with cooperation but with conquest, to be subjugated and mastered.

    We learn, at the last, to look at our brothers as aliens, men with whom we share a city, but not a community, men bound to us in common dwelling, but not in common effort. We learn to share only a common fear – only a common desire to retreat from each other – only a common impulse to meet disagreement with force.”

  • JD,

    Amen

  • landreaux

    Gentlemen,

    The question is about condoning violence or death threats. Every right thinking person should agressively condem both. It is about how the media treats it, it is about the rush to political advantage and it is about the desperate attempt to connect the Tea Party to abarent behavior when evidence to the contrary is so significant. It is about the recognition that should one care to look, violence on the left has been consistent since the 60’s. I know, I was there in the 60’s, I attended the demonstrations, I lived in Jerry Rubin’s neighborhood.

    Who was first to the podium? Who is clearly losing the PR battle on the merits?

    And, by the way, JD, beautifully written. I agree with the sentiment, I only hope that party leadership gets the persuasive message you’ve delivered. I AGREE WITH YOU! But, party leadership apparently does not.

  • landreaux,

    Amen

  • D.D.Mao

    When I was a boy I played football and it never seemed to fail that when ever you retaliated to the the other team giving a cheap shot YOU WERE THE ONE WHO WAS CALLED FOR THE FOUL.WELL THIS TIME WE DIDN’T DO ANYTHING AND AFTER 50 YEARS I’M TIRED OF TAKING THE LIBERAL LEFTS CHEAP SHOTS.I WAS TAUGHT TO APOLIGIZE AND ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY FOR WHAT I DID WHICH IS MORE THAN THE LIBERAL LEFT CAN SAY.IF WE APOLIGIZE OR DISOWN EVERY LITTLE REMARK THAT THEY TWIST AND MISINTERPRET WE COME OFF LOOKING WEAK AND LOSE CREDITABILITY FOR WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.If we disown this violence they will be demanding we disown Sarah Palins remark and then the next day it will be something else.I’M NOT THE RNC BUT IT’S TIME TO GET SOME BACKBONE AND TAKE A STAND.NO QUARTER GIVEN

  • JD

    I appreciate the compliment, landreaux, but how can I expect the party leadership on either side to “get it” if you don’t.

    If what you claim is true and this whole thing is about “how the media treats it, it is about the rush to political advantage and it is about the desperate attempt to connect the Tea Party to abarent behavior when evidence to the contrary is so significant. It is about the recognition that should one care to look, violence on the left has been consistent since the 60’s….”

    Then you need only look in the mirror. You just wrote a 686 word article about how the media is “taking advantage” when you have taken the time to “take advantage” yourself. Not one word of your story was about how violence or voicemail death threats are not appropriate or how the party leadership, people, and the media need to call out and stop any and all behavior in the matter.

    No, instead you spent at least 44 words mocking the situation by saying, “Now opponents of health care are terrorists. It was just a matter of time! The horrific weapons of these terrorists are, wait for it………………… voice mail messages. VM is of course much more dangerous than the actual bullets fired at Republican Eric Cantor’s office.”

    Since you were there in the 60’s then I am sure you can appreciate history repeating itself and the irony that your article is the same monster you were looking to raise awareness about then and now.

    None the less, you made your point that the Dems are looking to spin this, most republicans are victims of the Liberal News media, and Congressmen should have checked their voicemail before they voted.

    How about making a point that Death threats to you and your family even on Voicemail are just as bad as in person? I highly doubt you would want me to do the same to you no matter your political view.

    How about just a 100 word article on how we shouldn’t be conducting ourselves in this mannor? Should be easy when “Every right thinking person should aggressively condemn both”, as you specifically and Nate relatively put it.

    The real question is why hasn’t it happened? Is it so impossible that we agree on something that any amount of time spent on common ground is considered bad tactic for the overall war between Republicans and Democrats? Have we learned to disagree with each other so much that we have forgotten what we share?

    Seriously…

  • JD

    DDM – “When I was a boy I played football and it never seemed to fail that when ever you retaliated to the the other team giving a cheap shot YOU WERE THE ONE WHO WAS CALLED FOR THE FOUL.”

    Did they also teach you as a boy to write in CAPS ALL THE TIME??? hahaha, lol. LMAO. Your written conversation reminds me of a little kid calling foul.

    Sorry, guys it had to be said. Flame on!

  • JD, get off your ivory tower.

    The bottom line is that the media ignores violent threats against Republicans. For example, when Bush was burned in effigy at anti-war rallies. That was downplayed as “extremists” and/or not even reported. When a man was arrested recently for threatening to murder congressman Eric Cantor, that was reported quietly if at all by the media.

    However, when a Democrat congressman gets a threatening voicemail, the entire Republican Party and conservative movement is tarnished as being “violent” and people like Sarah Palin are blamed for inciting it. Democrats in congress rush to condemn Republican leaders for “fanning the flames.”

    Democrats act as if speaking against ObamaCare is code for “threaten your elected officials.”

    The bottom line is that people of all political stripes get threats yet the media portrays it as if only Republicans incite violence and only Democrats are capable of being threatened.

    Therefore, you only brought this up in reference to those who oppose the health care bill. You drank the media kool-aid and only began talking about it when threats were against Democrats.

    I condemn the violence on all sides but don’t criticize me for pointing out the vast, overwhelming hypocrisy on the part of the media when reporting it.

    landreaux is 100% correct.


    On another note, DDMao said this:

    If we disown this violence they will be demanding we disown Sarah Palins remark and then the next day it will be something else.I’M NOT THE RNC BUT IT’S TIME TO GET SOME BACKBONE AND TAKE A STAND.NO QUARTER GIVEN

    That is also correct. The media waits for Republicans to apologize for some wacko so they can twist the apology into an acceptance of blame for inciting it.

    The second someone like Palin apologizes for the violence she didn’t incite nor condones, the media will say she apologized because she realized she incited it and condones it.

    This is a vicious circle and I refuse to be shoehorned into apologizing for violence I don’t condone nor did I commit nor did I incite.

  • JD

    lol. You guys are like a bad apology I give to my wife when i foget to take the trash out. “I’m sorry, but the game was on”… like somehow that justifies my inaction.

    Lets be clear on what you are saying, I don’t condone violence but I tollorate it because

    a) I am not doing it.
    b) the media spins it
    c) if I give an inch then they will take a mile.

    I just want to be clear that if Nate or anyone recieves a death threat on him or his family he will have the condolences from me and my family. Because it is the right thing to do, not because I personally did it, not because the media spins it, and not because I am worried that my cause will be deminished.

    If you can’t see that then you have lost your basic humanity simply because it hasn’t happened to you or because you don’t know the people personally.

    Doing the right thing doesn’t make an ivory tower…it 9 times out of 10 is the unpopular thing to do.

  • I have said numerous times here I don’t condone it on either side, stop saying I haven’t said that please. Thank you.

    Furthermore, it has happened to me. Two years ago during the 2008 election I did receive a disturbing threat from someone on this site. It said I “will not be around much longer” and some other things. They had my full name and home address which was very nerve-wracking. It scared me and we took some precautionary actions like making sure we had enough firearms. 🙂

    The difference is that I didn’t make a political event out of it and nobody knew. I did not try to use it for political gain and paint all the liberals on the site as condoning violence.

    So please, don’t presume to know what you’re speaking of when ascribing events which may or may not have happened to me. I know exactly what it feels like but it is the cost of doing business in the public eye.

    You’re confusing analysis of the way the media portrays violence as somehow meaning I am not condemning it. You are guilty of doing what the media does which is attacking the messenger for pointing out the hypocrisy. You want me to respond only in the manner you deem worthy or else I must be supporting the violence.

    Sorry, I won’t conform to your request and I have never condoned violence.

  • Wait, I just thought of one more thing to get JD’s panties in a bunch.

    As a legislator, when you specifically vote against 60% to 70% of your constituents, do you expect them to just roll over and go quietly in the night?

    If I ask you not to do something and you do it anyway, do you not expect a backlash?

    Again, not condoning the violence but I am pointing out the fact that when you don’t do as your electorate is demanding, they aren’t going to remain quiet about it.

    Once more, not condoning any violence. All violence is condemned.

    Is that enough of a disclaimer for you while I analyze the current political environment?

    Finally, no violence is condoned, all is condemned.

  • JD

    I am sorry to hear about what happened to your family. I wouldn’t wish that on anyone.

    As for the panties… Are you sure mine are in a bunch? I tend to let it all hang out. Like a windsock, where ever the wind blows.

  • D.D.Mao

    “Men in authority will always think that criticism of their policies are dangerous. They will always equate their policies with patriotism,and find criticism subversive.”
    Henry Steele Commager (historian)

    What kind of country have we turned into where we are supposed to apologize for something that we haven’t seen any proof happened? But then the liberal left has had two Presidents who go around the world apologizing for America for what they think the world wants to hear and bowing to foreign monachs.

    All politicians are liers and the Democratic party smoothed that into a fine art. They use lying and playing emotions (“I feel your pain”)into achieving their goals of passing entitlements under the guise of rights and thus the circle of dependency and re-election.Their SKILLS AT THIS are so good they have a form letter they send out (Jesse Jackson and John Lewis)on the evening of each election saying how the black constituents are unable to vote and the election is thus invalid. NO BEING A LIBERAL MEANS YOU ALWAYS CLAIM TO BE A VICTIM!

    JD…….IF THE ONLY REBUTTAL YOU CAN COME BACK TO ME WITH IS THE CAP KEYS PERHAPS IT’S THE SOUND OF THE TRUTH AND NOT THE CAP KEYS THAT OFFEND YOU?

  • JD

    DDM, CAP KEYs don’t offend me. It just makes you look silly and I wouldn’t want your argument to fall on deaf ears because of that. I mean how many times have you taken life pointers from a clown? You are not a clown are you?

    By the way, bravo on a posting that only did CAPS when talking about my criticism of CAPS usage. I guess you do listen to some of the stuff I write on here.

  • Bill Hedges

    Yes your panties are all bunched up JD

    Your sensitively overwhelms me. Did you apology for your mistakes recently. He.. NO you did not. Or did I miss that today.

    You said:

    “You guys are like a bad apology.”

    Look in the mirror for that guilty culprit. You give NONE..

    Reasonless insults about Sarah last night got Kendale my put down. His own words thrown in his face. Show your abilities to get rid of undeserved insults. Then get back to me on this.

    Give me a break. I am flat A.. tired of liberals spewing reasonless insults then now want my STATEMENT WE ALL MUST UNITE TO SHOW SOLATITY AGAINST VIOLENCE.. We must cry because with 100’s of recording devises no one reordered the “N” word. WE MUST TAKE THEIR WORD it happened in group of tea party every day citizens upset a hugh health bill passed mostly unread. But must be hurried because 95% goes into effect in 2014. Pelosi says we will know what’s in it once passed.

    You are not as bad as Kendale but you’re no angel. Please find where I started a fight. Where without reason do I insult.

    Show where I gave any hint of condoning violence.

    Your hollow pled goes on deaf ears with me. You fake outrage will receive no sympathy from me. I have always been a law abiding person and will always be.

    JD clean up your own act then come back to me.

  • D.D.Mao

    JD……I pay very little attention to ANYTHING A LIBERAL HAS TO SAY.I WAS BROUGHT UP TO THINK FOR MYSELF NOT HAVE THE GOVERNMENT THINK FOR ME!

  • JD

    DDM, Great, now you are reverting back. You are kind of like “Flowers for Algernon” but we still like you.

    Bill, Are you an angel? I mean, I know I am no angel but do you really consider yourself one?

  • Bill Hedges

    Compared to you and Kendale ?

    HELL YES !!!

    Have you admitted your mistake from yesterday ? Do you insult ?

  • D.D.Mao

    JD…….IF ALL YOU ARE GOING TO DO IS REVERT TO SAUL ALINSKY TACTICS OF CRITICIZE(“RIDICULE IS MANS MOST POTENT WEAPON”) AND OTHER SAUL ALINSKY TACTICS (“WATCH HOW YOUR OPPONENT UNDER ATTACK ARE BLIND SIDED BY IRRELEVANT ARGUEMENTS”)THERE IS LITTLE MORE THAT CAN BE SAID.You don’t seem to have anything worth adding to this arguement IN DEFENSE OF YOUR POSITION NOR DO YOU ADDRESS OUR STATEMENTS….GOOD DAY!

  • Bill Hedges

    To show JD’s attitude and honesty of his concern here, to affirm DDMao last comment as well as mine, one only has to go to recent article with 64 comments. Check out the ending comments. Check out JD remark today.

    It proves JD, in my opinion, is disingenuous in this article. His goal is not unity against violence. As always, he perpetuates diversion. Tries to get us off-guard. Do we ? ‘We approve of anarchy‘___ Hogwash. We answer your questions, except for that absurd question. You ignore answering some of our questions and try to move on when water gets too hot. Then JD scats.

    I won’t give a inch to play JD game. I remember someone saying they were here for entertainment. What is this really.

    Next I will be accused of not caring concerning criminal acts. “Good luck”, to paraphrase DDMao.

    Either prove insult or be prepared to be put down in my comments. Follow Nate’s example of making your case for your position.

    Kendale, prove Sarah Palin is what you say or shut up. If you don’t, my pen stands ready. Make that in all matters where you unjustly insult. JD, same. These tactics can work in room full of people. As JD says, “Garbage”.

    Mar 30th, 2010 at 6:45 pm JD you used a long quote, is customary to give link. Would like that information.

  • JD

    Bill – “It proves JD, in my opinion…”

    At least you admit it is ONLY your opinion.

    DDM – “GOOD DAY!”

    Finally… I have been working to get you to say that all day. It took me a while but I finally got you take the day off so the adults could talk. 🙂

    landreaux, Nate… what were we talking about?

  • Bill Hedges

    JD

    Have you apologized ?

    I will not be distracted. I will respond with same question for looong time unless answered…

    Want link for your quote. Like DDMao said, you don’t answer questions. Good point DDMao.

  • Bill Hedges

    JD wrote “Let the Republicans drink their hater-ade.” On another article.

    I found that fascinating. In the past I caught JD committing plagiarism, he refused to apologize. Now recent refusal to apologize ( Let’s not forget JD’s coffin accusation ). When asked to give link to his quote he refuses.

    We have shown the lack of proof the ‘N’ word being used with plenty of devises handy to record. Instances of crime said to be caused by tea party that wasn’t.
    etc, etc, etc.

    I dare say I have never heard any Conservative here want law broken. I have seen JD insult without justification and/or reason. “hater-ade” because we don’t play his game. He has no justification , reason, or cause to say that.

    Just another example of JD irritating the conservative group. Something different from the norm of a Kendale Sarah put down. There is no rhyme or reason to it. JUST ENTERTAINMENT.

    Since the headlines of the day is to falsely blame Conservative and get them to join hands united to say unsubstantiated ‘N’ usage is deplorable, JD wants to bring it here and we refuse.

    How insensitive of us !!!

    JD have you apologized ? No. But you expect us to for nothing. Any irony there ???

    Other people provide links for long quotes. Are you so special you don’t have to. Yet we must join in unity singing cu-ba-yah and denounce crime.

    Insult and run JD.

    If JD responds to my comment. He will pick a small segment to answer. It does not matter if taken out of context. His goal is up most.

    JD fallacy “Let the Republicans drink their hater-ade” is another low for JD.

    Have you no shame ?

  • D.D.Mao

    Bill………It’s funny but it must be an “EXISTING PRE-CONDITION WITH JD TO PLAGIARIZE.The post he made 30th of March @6:45 Pm which starts “When you teach a man to hate and fear his brother …….” was from a speech given by ROBERT F. KENNEDY TO THE CLEVELAND CITY CLUB ON THE 5TH OF APRIL 1968.

  • No life

  • Bill Hedges

    DDMao

    Kendale, you see nothing wrong, of course !

    Like you I knew that. I looked it up. It was related to race I am sure. At least he used quotes this time, for that we must be thankful. Maybe JD does not know we know how to check, however, is his job to provide link. JD makes it a guessing who wrote what he writes.

    The other case he changed a few words to make it his own and no quotes used.

    JD has no right to insult anyone, his behavior is despicable !

    “Those who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones”

    For JD’s benefit, the meaning:

    “Do not criticize or slander another if you are vulnerable to retaliation.”

    http://www.answers.com/topic/those-who-live-in-glass-houses-shouldn-t-throw-stones

  • JD

    BAHAHAAHA… You two are clowns (Bill & DDM) You did see that I put quotes around the part where i quoted RFK didn’t you? lol.

    Can you remind me what quotation marks mean in the english language? In fact how did they get the name quotation? Could it be because the are use when quoting?

    You guys are like a couple of circus clowns. You are better off hosting a tea party where others have their head in the sand with you.

    Actually, I take it back because I know there are respectable people who are apart of the tea movement. I wouldn’t want to insult them.

  • “He who lives in a glass house must not throw stones unless he has a f’ing machine gun on his roof” – Seth McFarlane cartoon.

    “Tea Baggers” – Bill Maher

  • Bill Hedges

    JD notice last thing in previous comment. What normal educated people use. LINKS. A short quote like Kendale used is not necessary. Any more english lessons ?

  • JD

    Links like in a chain?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvsMFN9P8AU

    How about that link for finding out who needs an english lesson?

  • The above even shows you how to use qoutations

  • JD

    It is only funny because it is true. lol. That was a bit rough with the whole Tiger part. hahahaha

  • Yea, he took it a bit too far, but point was surely made.