AARP found to have taken money and no jobs.

Obamaeconomics. Shovel ready projects. Yes, Known pockets to fill with cash.

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Landreaux – “Stimulus Package WAS legislation”

Yes it was but it was not regulation legislation. It was Budget or Monetary legislation. I guess I should have specified that, however, the point still remains.

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I forced myself to listen to Geithner in Congressional Committee hearing today. No talk of tax breaks for small business. So keep guessing obama might.

He discussed using TARP money, may have been $42 billion, for bank loans for small business. Will there be government push for bad loans as house loans were that caused recession, I hope not. Won’t bet.

Will these bank loans help ? Sure. Likely to loss money.

For jobs help established business. New small ones tend to be owners working long hours.

Interesting TARP money was said being used for other things. Exact reason social security and medicare are broke. Same will happen with health care money…

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I know I’m late to the comment party but in regards to your first post, the Stimulus Package WAS legislation.

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Why don’t you give obama every break:

“I would hope any president would make changes where changes are needed.”

His intentions are clear. As I pointed out possible next Watergate is in the works ? Maybe. If not that, one already known or maybe one not known.

I liked how you did not capitilize p in president. Maybe there is hope for you. A unconscious slip ?

But you keep praying to your god. Make his excusses. Give him the benefit of the doubt. Over and over and over again. We will silently smile. The numbers in your group are getting smaller, and smaller.

You do check polls. Maybe you stopped. Disheartening for you I guess.

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As my link also shows simple “tax-incentives” is not enough, controling spending is also key. You left that out. obama is spend freak…

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The reason why I call it controversial is because it is. Even depression spending in the late 30’s both war and economic was controversial even today; with people falling on both sides.

As far as tax-incentives it is kind of ridiculous how you feel all free market principles belong to Republicans or outside of Obama. Give me a break both sides have a blend of the two.

I would hope any president would make changes where changes are needed and not just go down the same road to never make adjustments.

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I to have enjoyed the indignations from both JD and Kenny. I have struck a nerve at times and they, unable not to acknowledge their pain, lash out at the one who wheeled the dagger. Me.

Don’t tell JD each new government job costs taxpayers money. That each private job creates revenue for government. Guard this secret with your life. If this knowledge leaks out…. God help us ALL.

Maybe you know, was it last week that obama or his administrations said we were out of recession ? Today he warns of double dip recession. What kind of message is he trying to send to Americans ? Has the per Madonna been in the public bathroom and been reading the writing on the walls. May account for the stumbling obama saying “businesses tax incentives to create jobs.” as you quoted.”

Obama uses the disguise of saving America from future recession to pass some of his purposed legislation. As well as lowering cost of health care through government intervention. These veiled attempts to fool the public does not muster desired effect like it use to. Still JD procrastinates in admitting the inevitable, obama is the Flim-Flam Man…

In my childhood home my Mom knitted and placed her work in our kitchen. Message read “Home Sweet Home”. Using your best persuasive techniques, ask Conservative girl to knit a passage appropriate for your home. May I suggest:

Hawaii, Oregon, Massachusetts . Canada, England, and more.

“failed socialist policies and they fail again”

Leads us not into obamaland

BUT FREEDOM, INDIVIDUALITY, AND CAPATIALISM…

Or

Reagan’s “proven conservative free-market principles” gave birth to America longest Bull market in American history. Stopped only by Bill Clinton’s (liberals) desire to put a home in every unqualified low income person’s pot (instead of chicken).

All to gain VOTES…

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If you can’t shoot down the message, shoot the messenger.

Unfortunately for Obama, the numbers don’t lie and that is his worst enemy right now.

I heard Obama is thinking (gasp) of giving businesses tax incentives to create jobs. How shocking since we were told that government spending in the stimulus would create jobs, not the private sector.

I guess when you try to use failed socialist policies and they fail again, you might as well use proven conservative free-market principles to create jobs.

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All this government spending and bills that Congress are working on that requires tax increases is not conducive to small business hiring. As Landreaux so well described in his article. Jobs is not obama’s middle name…

Let me add:

“According to President John F. Kennedy:”

“Our true choice is not between tax reduction, on the one hand, and the avoidance of large Federal deficits on the other. It is increasingly clear that no matter what party is in power, so long as our national security needs keep rising, an economy hampered by restrictive tax rates will never produce enough revenues to balance our budget just as it will never produce enough jobs or enough profits… In short, it is a paradoxical truth that tax rates are too high today and tax revenues are too low and the soundest way to raise the revenues in the long run is to cut the rates now.”

“The Reagan tax cuts”

“Thanks to “bracket creep,” the inflation of the 1970s pushed millions of taxpayers into higher tax brackets even though their inflation-adjusted incomes were not rising. To help offset this tax increase and also to improve incentives to work, save, and invest, President Reagan proposed sweeping tax rate reductions during the 1980s. What happened? Total tax revenues climbed by 99.4 percent during the 1980s, and the results are even more impressive when looking at what happened to personal income tax revenues. Once the economy received an unambiguous tax cut in January 1983, income tax revenues climbed dramatically, increasing by more than 54 percent by 1989 (28 percent after adjusting for inflation).”

2) “The rich pay more when incentives to hide income are reduced.”

“The tax cuts of the 1920s”

“The share of the tax burden paid by the rich rose dramatically as tax rates were reduced. The share of the tax burden borne by the rich (those making $50,000 and up in those days) climbed from 44.2 percent in 1921 to 78.4 percent in 1928.”

“The Kennedy tax cuts”

“Just as happened in the 1920s, the share of the income tax burden borne by the rich increased following the tax cuts. Tax collections from those making over $50,000 per year climbed by 57 percent between 1963 and 1966, while tax collections from those earning below $50,000 rose 11 percent. As a result, the rich saw their portion of the income tax burden climb from 11.6 percent to 15.1 percent.”

“The Reagan tax cuts”

“The share of income taxes paid by the top 10 percent of earners jumped significantly, climbing from 48.0 percent in 1981 to 57.2 percent in 1988. The top 1 percent saw their share of the income tax bill climb even more dramatically, from 17.6 percent in 1981 to 27.5 percent in 1988.”

“Harmful Spending & Complexity”

“Lower tax rates are important, but they are not the only critical issue. Both the level of government spending and where that money goes are very important. And even when looking only at tax policy, tax rates are just one piece of the puzzle. If certain types of income are subject to multiple layers of tax, as occurs in the current system, that problem cannot be solved by low rates. Similarly, a tax system with needless levels of complexity will impose heavy costs on the productive sector of the economy.”

http://www.heritage.org/r...../wm327.cfm

This link simple backs up Landreaux article with some extra numbers.

Explains why obama debt and agenda is leading America into a ‘lost decade’ as occurred in Japan…

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When it comes to obama, JD seems to be the eternal optimist.

1. For example in JD’s above comment JD say “I think the real result of the stimulus spending is going to be seen in the next year or so.”

Well Nate and I have uncovered the ‘real results’ are lies in numbers and super expensive cost for job so far. And it keeps a coming.

2.Now JD was right in saying “I do agree that more should have been spent on small business loans or grants,”

But so far that’s not obama style. Maybe after 2nd Newt revolution.

3. “I think the real result of the stimulus spending is going to be seen in the next year or so.”

I’m afraid I can’t have the positive enthusism that JD has. Past perforance is not good. After all weren’t these shovel ready projects. The ‘dirt’ is flying on this stimulus package. So no real cause to believe future will be better. Unless we wave obama bye-bye.

4.“As for the moving jobs back from overseas, I think that is an issue congress needs and has needed to tackle for 2 decades when the leak really got out of control. Stimulus money can do very little unless legislation is there to back it up and arguably it can do nothing regardless because it is a cost issue. It will always be cheaper to have it made in Mexico so companies will always look for ways to bend the rules so they can make an extra buck.”

I can agree with what JD said. Except for JD’s cynicism. To turn jobs back to America we must attract. JD ignored what would attract in Landreaux article. Landreaux has some great ideas. Re-read it JD. Americans are highly productive. Lower taxes for businesses and follow Landreaux suggestion and jobs will flow into America.

There is much in article that will bring jobs back and ways to develop job here, surprised to did not pick up on it. Stopping obama’s bills from being past. Stop buying so much foreign oil and burning our own oil.

I see why you ignored this because obama’s agenda must be discarded to develop jobs here. That you don’t want, right.

5. “I have to admit that I know 4 people who have a job because their company received civil contracts for infrastructure due to the stimulus package. 4 people is hardly a large number but considering I am but a small speck in the sand of millions working leads me to believe others have a similar story. ”

Have already talked about lack of jobs really created and high cost per job that were.

Incentives for small business would be more economical for jobs. Add throwing obama’s agenda out of window.

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Glad to see ABC News carrying stimulas jobs, err lies. I’m sure you know Fox News was far ahead of that link in reporting.

No wonder Fox News is # 1.

NBC news is like a weekly newspaper competing and a tv hourly news Fox. ABC is behind the times.

Fox is talking about jobs created in State districts that don’t exist.

“1 In 6 ‘Stimulus Jobs’ Does Not Exist “

http://sweetness-light.co.....as-made-up

“$160,000 Per Stimulus Job? White House Calls That ‘Calculator Abuse’”
October 30, 2009 7:12 PM

http://blogs.abcnews.com/.....abuse.html

“Wash. Examiner forwards misleading cost-per-job stimulus math”
November 02, 2009 5:22 pm ET

http://mediamatters.org/r.....0911020039

I just don’t think we can afford anymore government jobs.

No wonder social security and medicare are ($100 trillion ??) deep in debt. Let’s pass health care and start collecting taxes now and put plan into effect 2013-2015 (not my idea). Congress can either use that money to keep afloat social security and medicare or just simple spend on pork.

Wasn’t obama in Senate spending $1,000,000 a day average in pork ? Should have saved money and keep him in Senate.

Just think about these folk running health care ?

Regulate yes. Well, I don’t know. Not these folks.

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http://abcnews.go.com/Pol.....id=9097853

Dozens of states have reports of overestimates of job creation. It’s all a sham. Billions were spent for 10.2% unemployment and 49 states losing jobs this year. If Bush was President right now, JD, you and the media would have impeached him at this point.

To say the stimulus bill is “controversial” is an understatement, more like the epitome of economic incompetence.

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As for the moving jobs back from overseas, I think that is an issue congress needs and has needed to tackle for 2 decades when the leak really got out of control. Stimulus money can do very little unless legislation is there to back it up and arguably it can do nothing regardless because it is a cost issue. It will always be cheaper to have it made in Mexico so companies will always look for ways to bend the rules so they can make an extra buck.

I have to admit that I know 4 people who have a job because their company received civil contracts for infrastructure due to the stimulus package. 4 people is hardly a large number but considering I am but a small speck in the sand of millions working leads me to believe others have a similar story.

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