Pelosi’s Obamacare: Pay up or pay fines, jail time

In a stunning example of the level of arrogance and disregard for personal liberty coming out of Washington today, more of the facts on Nancy Pelosi’s version of Obamacare are coming to light and they aren’t pretty. Furthermore, the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office estimates that the lowest cost family non-group plan under Pelosi’s “affordable health care” will cost $15,000 in 2016.

First and foremost, this legislation contains an mandate that you maintain a “level of acceptable health insurance” all year or face fines and possible jail time for continued non-compliance.

The Republican members of the House Committee on Ways & Means highlighted this actual text from the legislation Nancy Pelosi is trying to cram down everyone’s throats by today:

Today, Ranking Member of the House Ways and Means Committee Dave Camp (R-MI) released a letter from the non-partisan Joint Committee on Taxation (JCT) confirming that the failure to comply with the individual mandate to buy health insurance contained in the Pelosi health care bill (H.R. 3962, as amended) could land people in jail. The JCT letter makes clear that Americans who do not maintain “acceptable health insurance coverage” and who choose not to pay the bill’s new individual mandate tax (generally 2.5% of income), are subject to numerous civil and criminal penalties, including criminal fines of up to $250,000 and imprisonment of up to five years.

In response to the JCT letter, Camp said: “This is the ultimate example of the Democrats’ command-and-control style of governing – buy what we tell you or go to jail. It is outrageous and it should be stopped immediately.”

Excerpts from the JCT letter explaining the madness:

Key excerpts from the JCT letter appear below:

“H.R. 3962 provides that an individual (or a husband and wife in the case of a joint return) who does not, at any time during the taxable year, maintain acceptable health insurance coverage for himself or herself and each of his or her qualifying children is subject to an additional tax.” [page 1]

“If the government determines that the taxpayer’s unpaid tax liability results from willful behavior, the following penalties could apply…” [page 2]

Here are the criminal penalties as outline in Pelosi’s Obamacare legislation:

Prosecution is authorized under the Code for a variety of offenses. Depending on the level of the noncompliance, the following penalties could apply to an individual:

• Section 7203 – misdemeanor willful failure to pay is punishable by a fine of up to $25,000 and/or imprisonment of up to one year.

• Section 7201 – felony willful evasion is punishable by a fine of up to $250,000 and/or imprisonment of up to five years.”

Apparently some members of the Senate Finance Committee worked to remove the criminal prosecution from any Senate versions of this bill. Speaker Pelosi did not take the same consideration:

When confronted with this same issue during its consideration of a similar individual mandate tax, the Senate Finance Committee worked on a bipartisan basis to include language in its bill that shielded Americans from civil and criminal penalties. The Pelosi bill, however, contains no similar language protecting American citizens from civil and criminal tax penalties that could include a $250,000 fine and five years in jail.

“The Senate Finance Committee had the good sense to eliminate the extreme penalty of incarceration. Speaker Pelosi’s decision to leave in the jail time provision is a threat to every family who cannot afford the $15,000 premium her plan creates. Fortunately, Republicans have an alternative that will lower health insurance costs without raising taxes or cutting Medicare,” said Camp.

According to the Congressional Budget Office the lowest cost family non-group plan under the Speaker’s bill would cost $15,000 in 2016.

It is stunning to me that Democrats are hell bent on passing this piece of trash and impugning it on the American people, those who they’re supposed to represent. Congress will not be subject to the same health care plan nor these same qualifications, they have a fantastic array of private health insurance plans to choose from. It is only the citizens of this country they’re going to force onto a government-run health insurance plan as they see fit, be it by fines, taxes or criminal prosecution.

I pray this does not pass and from many signs, the Democrats are having a civil war within their own party since some moderate Democrats are slightly concerned over this health control taxation bill and their chances for re-election. Pelosi cannot get members of her own party, in a majority in the House, to sign on and vote for this wretched legislation.

The GOP put together an excellent side-by-side comparison of the Pelosi Obamacare plan and the Republican plan, you can get it here as a PDF. Also see this.

In other news, President Obama’s wasteful $700 billion stimulus plan has now given us 10.2% unemployment, the highest in 26 years. I’m sure President Obama will defend his economic incompetence by blaming the previous administration.

  • Bill Hedges

    “First and foremost, this legislation contains an mandate that you maintain a “level of acceptable health insurance” all year or face fines and possible jail time for continued non-compliance.”

    This is a big issue. Ignoring all the other BS in this bill. Affordable insurance needs the well to be in the mix. To let a newly found no insurance cancer patient in is not cost effective. To charge say $600-1,000 each year is one answer. Jail term another possibility. Another is what we have now. PERSONAL RESPONSIBILTY.

    Personal responsibility means you control your own destination. No crying when you choice wrong. If you buy a new car instead of insurance and end up with illness so be it. Don’t cry.

    Government does have responsibilities. Make health care affordable. Why hasn’t obama implemented his cheaper medicine already. Did he not reach an agreement with drug companies. Why is waste in medicare not being addressed. Has nothing to do with passage of this bill. Why not open States up to open competition. Reform tort laws. Lowering insurance cost. Canada has a waiting period for new members with pre-existing conditions.

    Make insurance for ALL more affordable. All is the key word. All Americans. All citizens. Those are the ones Constitution was made for.

    I heard a Democrat member of House speaking on tv yesterday. About raising taxes of course, on stock trades. He wanted more taxes, but he complained obama did not want obvious direct tax increases, onama wanted indirect hidden taxes. So instead of showing increased tax on per gallon gas at the gas pump, instead add tax to barrel of oil so public would not notice. This is obama’s transparency. His honesty. The man I do not like.

    Today they may vote on this bill. Did they read the bill. They must rush to pass because it becomes affective in 2013-2015. Rush is to collect taxes to begin immediately if passed. And this money collected will be used as it has always been, used on other projects. Creating another post office, medicare, medicaid, social security etc that is bankrupt and $ trillions in debt.

    Enjoy you week-end. Democrats are trying to.

    Vote on resolution on now. Not for bill itself. Abortion issue must be addressed and others.

    A amendment may get this bill passed announcer said. Stuback amendment ???

    Resolution passed, now 4 hours debate…

  • Bill Hedges

    “Pelosi Health Care Bill Blows a Kiss to Trial Lawyers”

    by Capitol Confidential

    “The health care bill recently unveiled by Speaker Nancy Pelosi is over 1,900 pages for a reason. It is much easier to dispense goodies to favored interest groups if they are surrounded by a lot of legislative legalese. For example, check out this juicy morsel to the trial lawyers (page 1431-1433 of the bill):”

    “Section 2531, entitled “Medical Liability Alternatives,” establishes an incentive program for states to adopt and implement alternatives to medical liability litigation. [But]…… a state is not eligible for the incentive payments if that state puts a law on the books that limits attorneys’ fees or imposes caps on damages.”

    “So, you can’t try to seek alternatives to lawsuits if you’ve actually done something to implement alternatives to lawsuits. Brilliant! The trial lawyers must be very happy today.”

    http://biggovernment.com/2009/10/30/pelosi-health-care-bill-blows-a-kiss-to-trial-lawyers/

  • Bill Hedges

    Oh yes, 96% of trial lawyers campaign money goes to Democrats. Lawyers are second largest contributors to Democrat party.

    Should I say money well spent lawyers. Democrats can be bought…

    Should also helps lawyers because failure to have approved health insurance could lead to 5 years in jail sentence if found guilty.

  • Bill Hedges

    “OBAMACARE ENDORSEMENTS: WHAT THE BRIBE WAS”

    By DICK MORRIS & EILEEN MCGANN

    November 6, 2009

    “As the suicidal Democratic congressmen proceed to rubber-stamp the Obama healthcare reform despite the drubbing their party took in the ’09 elections, the president trotted out the endorsements of the AMA and the AARP to stimulate support. But these — and the other endorsements — his package has received are all bought and paid for.”

    “Here are the deals:”

    * The American Medical Association (AMA) was facing a 21 percent cut in physicians’ reimbursements under the current law. Obama promised to kill the cut if they backed his bill. The cuts are the fruit of a law requiring annual 5-6 percent reductions in doctor reimbursements for treating Medicare patients. Bravely, each year Congress has rolled the cuts over, suspending them but not repealing them. So each year, the accumulated cuts threaten doctors. By now, they have risen to 21 percent. With this blackmail leverage, Obama compelled the AMA to support his bill…or else!”

    * “The AARP got a financial windfall in return for its support of the healthcare bill. Over the past decade, the AARP has morphed from an advocacy group to an insurance company (through its subsidiary company). It is one of the main suppliers of Medi-gap insurance, a high-cost, privately purchased coverage that picks up where Medicare leaves off. But President Bush-43 passed the Medicare Advantage program, which offered a subsidized, lower-cost alternative to Medi-gap. Under Medicare Advantage, the elderly get all the extra coverage they need plus coordinated, well-managed care, usually by the same physician. So more than 10 million seniors went with Medicare Advantage, cutting into AARP Medi-gap revenues.”

    “Presto! Obama solved their problem. He eliminates subsidies for Medicare Advantage. The elderly will have to pay more for coverage under Medigap, but the AARP — which supposedly represents them — will make more money.”

    *” The drug industry backed ObamaCare and, in return, got a 10-year limit of $80 billion on cuts in prescription drug costs. (A drop in the bucket of their almost $3 trillion projected cost over the next decade.) They also got administration assurances that it will continue to bar lower-cost Canadian drugs from coming into the U.S. All it had to do was put its formidable advertising budget at the disposal of the administration.”

    * “Insurance companies got access to 40 million potential new customers. But when the Senate Finance Committee lowered the fine that would be imposed on those who don’t buy insurance from $3,500 to $1,500, the insurance companies jumped ship and now oppose the bill, albeit for the worst of motives.”

    “The only industry that refused to knuckle under was the medical device makers. They stood for principle and wouldn’t go along with Obama’s blackmail. So the Senate Finance Committee retaliated by imposing a tax on medical devices such as automated wheelchairs, pacemakers, arterial stents, prosthetic limbs, artificial knees and hips and other necessary accoutrements of healthcare.”

    “So these endorsements are not freely given, but bought and paid for by an administration that is intent on passing its program at any cost.”

    http://www.vote.com/mmp_printerfriendly.php?id=1703

  • Bill Hedges

    Is a sad night..

    1 Republican vote.

    Passed wirh 2 extra.

  • Christopher Schwinger

    If Pelosi gets reelected, those Californians will have no one to blame but themselves when they suffer from her policies!

  • Brittany

    Nancy Pelosi is a born Republican (she pretends to be otherwise, but the woman has no idea what Americans are facing today. She sits in her fine mansion, with a bordeuax, a cook, and maidservice and dictates that the poor and middle class will have insurance or go to jail…jesus! Is this Hitler in the remake? Most folks are trying to figure out how to make it, aka lost jobs, and now this government is looking to put people in jail and take what little they have left? Both the Republicans and Dems dont have a clue….Oil is too damn high (triple the cost today) Health Insurance is over the top! And those in the White House get raise upon raise, while they let big corp’s rob the American people. They are all to blame. You don’t see them accepting pay cuts. And all of their transportation costs are covered. They do not have a clue of the struggles of America! The People!

  • dan gentry

    I just cant fathom how this b.s. passed since when do they not listen to what the people has to say. I was in D.C. that weekend and it was crazy with all the protesters but it dont matter when is EVERYONE going to wake up and start fighting this kind of b.s. its not getting better its getting alot worse and its going to keep getting worse unless all of us join arms and say this is enough. I say we run them all out of D.C. I used to be proud to say Im from D.C. but not anymore.Another thing that needs to change is the whole black and white thing its the 21st century people let it alone dont you think its time to move on already. I can tell you first hand its not going to move on with obama in the white house because hes a racist PIG.

  • Angel

    15,000 a year for health insurance!?!? I am currently paying 4,800 on health insurance a year (that’s 400 a month) And even that is too much. My husband and I are living off 25,000 a year and are barely making ends meet. How in the hell are we suppose to spend more than 1/2 of our yearly income on healthcare and still survive?? I for one will NOT be buckling under pressure and I will simply refuse to pay. Come get me and when you arrive just remember I have the right to bear arms!!

  • casper ghoast

    My question to the genius Nancy Pelosi. Now when I don’t pay your fine and tell you to stick your plan up your ass, where do you intend to put me in jail… The jails in my County are full, and since this is a federal charge, how many empty bed do you thint the Government has at $50,000. a year? Yes Nancy you and your dumb-ass leader can kiss my ass!!! There is no way in hell you can enforce your stupid mandate. This is what one gets when a Liberal is in office… Plain ass
    stupidy.. You’ll be gone in 15 months along with your god damned health care.. tell, Obama not to steal the china when he leaves!!!!