Obama’s attempt at Fox News blackout fails, miserably

The White House is becoming increasingly Nixonian with tactics which amount to something resembling an enemies list, seeming to consist of Rush Limbaugh, Fox News and now the United States Chamber of Commerce. The list grows by the month as any entity which dares question the administration with facts and reason is immediately portrayed as some kind of Obama-hating discredited outlet.

In an amazing show of unity and decency, four major news agencies including CBS, NBC, ABC and CNN all stood up for Fox News and refused to go along with the White House’s unconstitutional demands. The report on this from the DC Examiner:

The Obama administration today tried to exclude Fox News from the White House press pool. This attempted act contradicted the spirit and letter of the First Amendment, and the press fought back.

Thursday the White House made “pay czar” Kenneth Feinberg available for interviews to every member of the White House pool except Fox News. The pool is the five-network group that shared the costs and duties of daily coverage of the presidency and has done so for decades.

But in a surprising show of decency, the four other members of the pool — ABC, NBC, CBS and CNN — told the White House if Fox were barred none of them would participate in the interview session.

The administration caved and made Feinberg available for Fox News.

This underscores something often misunderstood about the Free Press clause of the First Amendment. The provision is not in the Constitution to benefit reporters. It is there to benefit the public. The right of a free press is necessary to preserve the public’s right to know what is going on with their government.

This was a victory for America and the First Amendment, everyone should be proud of what happened on Thursday. The White House went out of it’s way in an attempt to marginalize a legitimate news organization and the other mainstream press organizations would have none of it, good for them.

I have to ask, just so that it is on the record, what would be said if the Bush administration had a similar directive specifically singling out NBC or CNN the way the White House is vociferously bashing Fox News. It would still be a New York Times page-one story today.

In the same line of Obama’s pettiness, the United States Chamber of Commerce is now in the White House sights ever since it decided to speak out in favor of capitalism and the free-market economic system which made this country great.

Report on this from Fox News, the White House’s blacklisted news agency:

The uneasy relationship between the Obama White House and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce has steadily eroded over the past several months, with the business group’s opposition to health care and climate change legislation triggering an all-fronts backlash from the administration.

The administration is now trying to neutralize the Chamber by doing an end-run around the group and dealing directly with its members.

During remarks in early October, President Obama named and shamed the Chamber for opposing a consumer protection agency.

And the White House again criticized the group Tuesday, telling Fox News in an e-mail that the group’s opposition to reform efforts gives the administration pause.

“We have an open door to the ideas and suggestions of the business community including the Chamber,” White House spokeswoman Jen Psaki said, noting that administration “representatives” met with Chamber representatives last week. “But it does give us pause that they continue to throw millions of dollars against productive efforts under way to reform the regulatory structure, provide access to affordable health insurance for more Americans and reduce the impact of greenhouse gas emissions — all plans essential to the continued growth and recovery of our economy.”

Obama and top aides quietly have met with 50 to 60 big-time corporate CEOs over the past few months in an effort to cultivate their support on key issues — the White House denies that it has encouraged any companies to sever ties with the Chamber.

A few companies, like Apple Inc., have left the Chamber principally due to disagreements over how to tackle climate change. Others, like Nike, have simply left the board of directors.

But Chamber executives told Fox News that since word of open warfare with the White House began to surface, membership has spiked. They warned White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel not to imagine the Chamber will retreat from spending heavily in the mid-term election cycle.

Video report on this story, also from Fox:

The Chamber of Commerce is pro-business, pro-capitalism, anti-taxes and anti-regulation, all positions which are exactly the opposite of what President Obama believes and espouses. Therefore, the White House isn’t too pleased, once again, that an organization is exercising it’s First Amendment rights to speak out against policies which will kill jobs and stifle productivity.

Moderate Democrats are also becoming disgusted with President Obama’s tactics, check this Politico story for more on that.

Again though, the Chamber said they’re having a spike in membership since landing on President Obama’s enemies list. Therefore, I call that a victory for the Chamber since it shows that freedom-loving pro-capitalist business owners refuse to go quietly in the night under Obama’s socialist sword.

  • Bill Hedges

    I guess I can write a little to see if I am told to die.

  • Careful Bill, you don’t want to ask questions and demand accountability, that will definitely land you on the Obama watch list.

    Imagine if Bush did something anywhere close to this, JD would still have his panties in a bunch over it yet the Democrats sit silent. Well, that’s not entirely true. Some of the blue dog Dems are speaking out since they want to be re-elected.

  • I’ll start this one off with the fact that myself and my church prayed for our president this morning during worship services.

    Personally I feel as though creating an enemies list is a waste of time and effort. I do not know whose idea it was in the administration to do such a thing but we prayed that is was not our President. Any religious man knows that you attack your enemy (satan) by living your life as close to the way that God has planned for us to do. By this I mean as our president, Obama should only be concerned with the welfare of his nation’s citizens and then for the citizens of all other countries. His critics will be silenced by his work if only he were to do his job the way it should be done. You can not win a battle as president by labeling people and trying to discredit them. I’ve stated that before on this site, discrediting each other will not right the wrongs of politics, only start a wasteful battle. Right? So I agree that Obama and/or his administration are certainly going down the wrong road with this one. We as a nation have the freedom set forth by the 1st amendment, what sort of president would look to attack that?

    I command the other news networks for what they did for Fox News. I also think it childish to attempt exclude a news network from the interview. I’m not sure what their goal is in doing such a thing. I’m sure Fox News will not change their views and will continue running their network the way it is run, as it is obviously successful is gaining viewers. As I said before, controversy sells, no matter the political views of Fox News’s popular commentators. Bill O’Reilly, Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, ect are popular television figures and people will continue watching their programs no matter if The Obama Administration likes it or not. I don’t mean to sound like I am attacking them because I love their shows, but asking people to not watch Fox News is like asking trashy people to not watch Jerry Springer, it wont happen.

    So again, I pray that Obama keeps his faith at mind and heart when he makes decisions. I know that he is only one man in the white house, I pray that he stands up to those that oppose his personal views even if it does bring about turmoil within his own administration. I fear that many presidents stray from their own views so that they may appease those whom they are surrounded by. I fear their agenda is not a reflection of their own beliefs but of those who they fear in politics.

  • Bill Hedges

    If Kendale makes dumb comment I will say so. Then explain why with my reasons. That is legitimate.

    As soon as I get personally insulted I will lash out like a drunken sailor. Immediately and with great fervor of @#$%$##@$$, using the real words.

    Nate can simple look at previous comment for my excuses. Since my excuses is not justification for my foul words he can either warn me or bar me from this site or say something else. Or do so now because that is a promise I will keep. It applies to only Kendale. He has stated he is here for entertainment and basically irritate me. I’m not taking anymore. So, he starts it as usually, now I’ll finish it for good.

    He went ballistic because I pointed out he needs to use “”. I should not have to dig through article and his comments to know which words are his. I understand we all make mistakes but he continued after I pointed it out.

    So without quotes I assume all words in his comments are his. Let him plagiarize. Not in my job discription to figure out what is his words and what’s links words.
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    Kendals comment

    1.“I’ll start this one off with the fact that myself and my church prayed for our president this morning during worship services.”

    Who cares in a political forum.

    2. “Personally I feel as though creating an enemies list is a waste of time and effort. I do not know whose idea it was in the administration to do such a thing but we prayed that is was not our President.”

    I agree

    3. ”Any religious man knows that you attack your enemy (satan) by living your life as close to the way that God has planned for us to do. By this I mean as our president, Obama should only be concerned with the welfare of his nation’s citizens and then for the citizens of all other countries.”

    Agree. Add your own actions here as well.

    4. “His critics will be silenced by his work if only he were to do his job the way it should be done. You can not win a battle as president by labeling people and trying to discredit them. I’ve stated that before on this site, discrediting each other will not right the wrongs of politics, only start a wasteful battle. Right? So I agree that Obama and/or his administration are certainly going down the wrong road with this one. We as a nation have the freedom set forth by the 1st amendment, what sort of president would look to attack that?”

    Agree

    I command the other news networks for what they did for Fox News. I also think it childish to attempt exclude a news network from the interview. I’m not sure what their goal is in doing such a thing. I’m sure Fox News will not change their views and will continue running their network the way it is run, as it is obviously successful is gaining viewers.”

    Agree

    5. “As I said before, controversy sells, no matter the political views of Fox News’s popular commentators. Bill O’Reilly, Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, ect are popular television figures and people will continue watching their programs no matter if The Obama Administration likes it or not. I don’t mean to sound like I am attacking them because I love their shows, but asking people to not watch Fox News is like asking trashy people to not watch Jerry Springer, it wont happen.”

    Fox, like other news, has just the news segments and commentators. Controversy sells but truths not heard on other channels comes out on Fox. Fox emphasized Bill Ayers, Rev Wright, treatment to Sarah and Joe the Plumber, dug up czar Jones past and exposed, truth about who caused economic recession, and Acorn. While other new praised Whiner and Chief, Fox did as news people are suppose to do, be critical. honest and inform.
    Keep all politicians doing the right thing. Not glorifying a god..

    Your comparison is idiotic. Here is my reason for saying that. Jerry Springer show cheap entertainment.

    O’Reily and the others give commentaries. They get the facts and make logical deductions. For the most part they have guess who have opposing points of view.

    I don’t recall any physical confutations..

    You using Jerry in comparison is at best bad choice and inflammatory. Therefore I said idiotic. Is insulting comparison.

    “So again, I pray that Obama keeps his faith at mind and heart when he makes decisions. I know that he is only one man in the white house, I pray that he stands up to those that oppose his personal views even if it does bring about turmoil within his own administration. I fear that many presidents stray from their own views so that they may appease those whom they are surrounded by. I fear their agenda is not a reflection of their own beliefs but of those who they fear in politics.”

    Have no opinion

    I intend to break each of Kendale’s comments that I respond to in this manner.
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    Nate

    After all we went through and the lies of ‘well chosen phases’ by new leader, I stand as my mentor Wilson so bravely did. Attempting to speak out truth and take my lumps. Like Fox news I believe I will be rewarded although lie upon and chastise.

    Yes Bush didn’t do things but was blamed for it and given no piece for what he was accused of. There are still demonstrators at his house to this day.

    Bush’s Vice President is doing a grand job keeping present Administration a little accountable about Bush remarks. Bush’s female spokes person shines on Fox News. I have gain a lot of respect for her. I wish I could recall her name.

    I understand why Bush stays out of it. He has class. He shook hands with camera crew when giving interviews. His family gave presents and well wishes letters to new first family children.

    In comparison, Clintons left office stealing furniture and sabotage, including messing up typewriters.

    The two upcoming Governor elections has all eyes watching. It could very well decide if Blue dogs and independents pass or fail this horrid bill.

    Bill Clinton and obama went to bat for one of the Governors. obama has been back-peddling saying candidate may not have followed his advise well enough to win. obama, you’re not the man you were. You’ve seen the poll and heard the people. How long your shirt tails are now may be seen soon.

    Even Harry Reid and Dodd are in deep do-do.
    …………………

    The other 4 members of the pool; ABC, NBC, CBS and CNN did a rightist thing. For the right reasons I believe.

    It may take time to find out the lessons obama has learned. This is just one of many mind blowing experiences crumpling his empire. His book of tricks may become useless. After all not much new under the Sun. The ozone over your head is thin caused by global warming…

    Sunday news circuit is worth watching this week.

  • Bill Hedges

    “HuffPost:Gibbs admits mistake re Fox”

    October 24, 2009

    “Huffington Post reports that Robert Gibbs told Fox News White House correspondent Major Garrett that the attempt to exclude Fox News from a series of interviews with Special Master for TARP Executive Compensation Kenneth R. Feinberg was a mistake by a young Treasury Department staffer. Fox News exec Michael Clemente comments.”

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/michaelcalderone/1009/HuffPost_Gibbs_admits_mistake_re_Fox.html

    This is wrong, I know the incident was not caused by “mistake by a young Treasury Department staffer.”

    But a high level Czar Janiorial Supervisor. A close friend of obama and Bill Ayers.

  • Bill Hedges

    “Engage and criticize: Obama’s split media strategy”
    By BEN FELLER, Associated Press Writer Ben Feller, Associated Press Writer – 19 mins ago

    WASHINGTON – “The same president who aggressively harnesses the power of the press to promote his agenda has taken to lacing his comments with criticisms of the media, with no bigger target than the gabby culture of cable television.”

    “He went on Letterman and Leno. He’s held as many nightly news conferences in his first six months as George W. Bush and Bill Clinton did in eight years, and conducted far more interviews than either had at this point in their presidencies. He is the first Oval Office occupant to do five Sunday morning talk shows in a one day.”

    “In essence, Obama’s strategy is not to tame the media to his liking or blame it for his troubles. It is both.”

    “The president is sophisticated about what attracts coverage, what’s in the media each day, and why. Unlike Bush, who publicly claimed little interest in news from papers or TV, Obama dives into it.”

    “But even presidents who start with glowing press coverage always end up complaining about how they get beat up, said Martha Joynt Kumar, a political science professor at Towson University who studies White House communications.”

    “The press is there as a surrogate for the public, to ask the questions the public wants answers for,” Kumar said. “Their job is not to stand there and provide him an opportunity to talk on any subject he wants.”

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091026/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_and_the_media

    I can relate to the President !!! I really can. Those days when everything goes my way I am the ‘King of the mountain’.

    But since I left kindergarten though, I know ‘life is not a box of chocolates’. Even for Forrest Gump.

    My advise is grow up my leader. Revenge may temporarily be sweet, but ‘what goes around comes around’.

    A honest man is ‘worth his weight in gold.’

    I sure like old sayings…

  • I wish someone would just call Obama out on his “Christian Beliefs.” It’s pretty simple. He did claim Christianity didn’t he? All politicians who claim Christianity can be easily called out for their hypocrisy. Then again most religious people are only religious when they’re at their place of worship, once that time has past it’s back to mud slinging and childishness.

    TO ALL POLITICIANS

    “”1″Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

    3″Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

    6″Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and then turn and tear you to pieces.” Mathew 7:1-6

  • Bill Hedges

    obama said one of the first things he would do was find a church. To my knowledge he hasn’t and isn’t attended one.

    Anyhow speech in Congress on health care. Did not know some of what he says…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G44NCvNDLfc

  • Bill Hedges

    “Senate health care bill to include public option

    By DAVID ESPO, AP Special Correspondent David Espo, Ap Special Correspondent – 7 mins ago

    WASHINGTON – “Health care legislation heading for the Senate floor will give millions of Americans the option of purchasing government-run insurance coverage, Majority Leader Harry Reid announced Monday, although he stopped short of claiming the 60 votes needed to pass a plan steeped in controversy. Reid, D-Nev., said individual states would have the choice of opting out of the program.”

    “His announcement was cheered by liberal lawmakers, greeted less effusively by the White House and noted with a noncommittal response by Democratic moderates whose votes will be pivotal.”

    “Sen. Olympia Snowe of Maine, the only Republican to vote with Democrats on health care so far this year, issued a statement saying she was “deeply disappointed” in the approach the Democratic leader had chosen.”

    “Reid said, “While the public option is not a silver bullet, I believe it’s an important way to ensure competition and to level the playing field for patients with the insurance industry.” He said a long-delayed Senate debate on President Barack Obama’s call for an overhaul of the health care system would begin as soon as the Congressional Budget Office completes a mandatory assessment of the bill’s cost and impact on coverage.”

    “Changes on the public option — and numerous other provisions in the measure — are possible during a debate expected to last for weeks.”

    “And officials said Reid had prepared several variations of key provisions so he could make adjustments in his bill at the last minute and still make sure he was within Obama’s target of a $900 billion price tag over a decade.”

    “Senate Democratic officials say the bill Reid envisions would require most individuals to purchase insurance, with exemptions for those unable to find affordable coverage. Large businesses would not be required to provide insurance to their workers, but would face penalties of as much as $750 per employee if any qualified for federal subsidies to afford coverage on their own.”

    “The bill will also include a tax on high-cost insurance policies, despite opposition from organized labor, officials said. In a gesture to critics of the plan, Reid decided to apply the new tax to family plans with total premiums of $23,000 a year. The Senate Finance Committee approved a tax beginning at $21,000 in total premiums.”

    “Within minutes, the White House released a statement saying Obama was “pleased that the Senate has decided to include a public option for health coverage, in this case with an allowance for states to opt out.”

    “Olympia will come back. … She’s a very good legislator. I’m disappointed that the one issue, the public option, has been something that’s frightened her.”

    “With the support of two independents, Democrats command 60 seats in the Senate, precisely the number needed to overcome any Republican filibuster.”

    “Asked about the prospects for success, Reid answered, “We have 60 people in the caucus. … We all hug together and see where we come out.”

    “Obama has set a $900 billion, 10-year price tag for the legislation, and the program would be funded through cuts in future payments to Medicare providers and through higher taxes — an income surcharge on million-dollar earners in the House version and a new levy on high-cost insurance policies in the Senate.”

    “Pelosi has said the House bill will strip the insurance industry of its exemption from antitrust laws, a provision that the Congressional Budget Office said during the day would have only a small impact on the cost of insurance to consumers.”

    “A new government-run plan would underpay doctors and hospitals rather than driving real reforms that bring down costs and improve quality. The American people want health care reform that will reduce costs, and this plan doesn’t do that,” said Karen Ignagni, head of America’s Health Insurance Plans.”

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091026/ap_on_go_co/us_health_care_overhaul

    For States to ‘opt-out’ you know there will be requirement making it almost or down-right impossible to opt out..

    This government can single me out and force me to change insurance, I now even less trust government.

  • Bill Hedges

    Newt is saying on Fox that every time a health bill comes out it gets changed for fear… That hospitals may/could go bankrupt because of cuts in reimbusements. Wage of staff cut ???

    Nancy wants another name for Public option. I guess she does not know old saying.. “A rose by any other name…”

    Can’t wait to get this link to post exactly…

    I say trying to do what States and Countrie with public plans can’t do. They are going broke while rationing is reality. That’s the problem.

    Reid says pulic plan is a must which means covering illegals according to Supreme Court. Which obama said he would veto. But he wants…But. But. But…

  • Bill Hedges

    Senator Gramm said place where they are working on bill is unknown…

    Transparency…D.O.A.

    Do they really have the guts to pass this ???

    If I had a good bill and polls showed negative feeling on it, I would be hitting the airwaves to gain support. Will they when plan is settled ???

  • Bill Hedges

    In 2004 Democrats gave Bush the ‘what for’ for lack of vaccine. I await Democrats to do the same against obama. Holding my breathe guys…

  • JD

    I have mixed emotions on this…I completely understand why the Obama administration doesn’t like Fox news considering they are directly apposed to Obama no matter what he says and even if he agrees with them. It would be like having Bush administration sitting down with Micheal Moore. They are each other’s opposite.

    Still, no matter how poorly or unfounded Fox news or the obama administration is they have an obligation to the truth and not to just preach to their viewers or constituents.

    So I think it is wrong for the Obama administration to cut out FOX news but I also think it is wrong for FOX news to spin everything for the pure entertainment value only of their viewers.

  • Bill Hedges

    JD

    “I completely understand why the Obama administration doesn’t like Fox news considering they are directly apposed to Obama no matter what he says…”

    That’s simple not true. Many of the disagreements expressed here comes from Fox news. Countless reasons have been given for our disliking Acorn. Acorn has had involvement with health plan as stated on this site. With links to back it up.

    Whenever obama does something I believe in our protect his back. But I’m not a obamite with blinders on.
    …..

    “Still, no matter how poorly or unfounded Fox news”

    Like what ??? You give no examples nor evidence.

    So poorly is Fox. Check the numbers. Large numbers of people disagree with your assessment.

    “unfounded”. Maybe in liberal’s dreams. Evidence presented by Fox has changed faces in obama’s administration. Has focused truths on obama’s agendas. Obama has yet to discredit Fox’s claims that I recall. Only in accusations. Like yours.

    Same hold true for the health plan.

    To say “they are directly apposed to Obama no matter what he says”, well if plan is not right, they will not support blindly like so many networks do.

    Frankly polls show public dislike purposed health plan. Thanks for education instead of swallowing the lies.

    When Obama and Congress presents health care plan with chance of passing, without adding a separate $250 billion Doctor pay raise bill to keep health bill under $900 billion (and other such atrocities), is impossible for honest news network to ignore.

    Fox news does not disagree with obama “no matter what he says”. Obviously you watch little of Bill O’Reiley or else you would never have said that. Cause your wrong.

    Is true other networks worship ground obama steps on. That does not make for better government.

    I do not recall Network praying to any other god President.
    …..

    “they have an obligation to the truth and not to just preach to their viewers or constituents.”

    No examples just blank statement. No Obama team pointing out lies by Fox with evidence that I have seen. Just blank statement. Blank statements comes from mindless head.

    Does Fox make mistakes ??? Of course. Name any news media that doesn’t.

    The fact remains in most cases conservative news outlet flourish while liberal ones fall behind.

    If you have not noticed, The Nation and other liberal media is joining Fox against aspects of obama’s agenda.

    Even so called main stream news is joining Fox in questioning obama.
    …..

    “FOX news to spin everything for the pure entertainment value only of their viewers.”

    That is your opinion. Fox shapes public opinion by giving the facts. Your view is a minority view.

    “pure entertainment ”…Comical… Well many news media are cracking jokes more and more…

  • Bill Hedges

    “Democrats struggle to find unity on health plan”

    By RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR, Associated Press Writer Ricardo Alonso-zaldivar, Associated Press Writer – 48 mins ago

    “House Democrats also must resolve internal disagreements relating to abortion services and health care for immigrants before they can send the bill to the House floor for a vote.”

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091028/ap_on_go_co/us_health_care_overhaul

    I thought Wilson called obama a liar about health care for illegal’s. When they wrote “immigrants” they must be talking about legal immigrants ???

    Cause obama will ‘veto’ if illegal’s get health care. We have obama’s word…???

    Did he say something about abortion to ??? I forget…

  • Bill Hedges

    “Senate healthcare bill draws skeptics, opponents

    By Donna Smith and John Whitesides Donna Smith And John Whitesides – Tue Oct 27, 8:16 pm ET

    “Washington …Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid’s decision to include a government-run “public” option in the Senate bill failed to sway about a dozen moderates who said they wanted more details before making their decisions.”

    “Democrats said Reid was still short of the 60 votes needed to overcome procedural hurdles and pass a bill with a public option, which has become one of the most contentious issues in the debate on President Barack Obama’s top domestic priority.”

    “Lieberman, an independent who caucuses with Democrats, said he would not join Republicans on a procedural vote to block the healthcare bill from coming up for debate, but would be willing to block a final vote on the plan if it remained unchanged.”

    “I don’t support a government-operated health insurance company that will end up costing the taxpayers a lot of money,” he told reporters.”

    “SOME DEMOCRATS STILL ON THE FENCE”

    “Senator Olympia Snowe, the only Republican to support a healthcare bill in a congressional committee, opposes the public option and said she would vote with her fellow Republicans to block a motion to proceed to debate.”

    “Once you put in a motion to proceed, then it’s very difficult to change it,” she told reporters.”

    “Democrats cannot afford to lose the support on healthcare of any of their members in the Senate where they control 60 votes. As a result, they must woo about a dozen uncommitted moderates.”

    “I’m skeptical about what Senator Reid has proposed. I have not been a supporter of a national government-run option, but I am going to stay open to principled compromise,” said Democratic Senator Mary Landrieu of Louisiana.”

    “After days of closed-door negotiations to merge two pending healthcare bills into one for floor debate, Reid said on Monday he would include a national government-run insurance option that would let states opt out of participation.”

    “Reid, Obama and congressional liberals have backed a public option as a way to create choice and competition in the insurance market, but critics call it a government takeover that would hurt the private insurance industry.”

    “HOUSE LIBERALS HEARTENED”

    “Reid’s decision encouraged liberal Democrats in the House, who are negotiating a merger of three pending healthcare reform bills that all include a public option. They are still trying to compile the 218 votes necessary to pass the strongest version.”

    “Senator Reid’s very welcome decision has really lifted us,” said Representative Robert Andrews. “The consensus now is there will be a public option, the question is what it will look like.”

    “House leaders said they hoped to unveil their bill in the next few days, with a floor debate possibly starting late next week.”

    “The timetable in the Senate is even more unclear. Reid has sent the bill to the Congressional Budget Office for cost estimates, with a response not expected quickly.”

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20091028/pl_nm/us_usa_healthcare

  • Bill Hedges

    JD attempted rationalizing that Obama and Fox are at fault was cute.

    I think back to all the times I called the President a liar. I dare say I gave reason why I said that. Some liberal with my not proving would have said PROVE IT. Your full of…..

    When I say stimulus was a fiasco, I’m going to throw in the facts of pork ridden law, high unemployment, and Christian Roma from administration saying the program has done all the good it will do. With such llitle of money spent too.

    Maybe JD will proudly account for the misdeeds of ‘Entertainment Fox for ratings’. I know I have posted volumes of pages thanks to information against obama from material gotten from Fox. Yet I scratch my head when trying to remember JD disproving facts I write about here.
    ……….

    “Axelrod: Fox News Is ‘Not Really A News Organization”
    October 18, 2009

    “WH Communications Director Anita Dunn declared a war with Fox News this week and this morning on This Week, Axelrod reinforced their stance saying “[FOX] is really not news.”

    “I asked him if he’s worried his strategy is fortifying his enemy?”
    “I’m not concerned, Mr. Murdoch has a talent for making money,” Axelrod said.

    “The only argument that Anita was making is that they are not really a news organization, if you watch even its not even their commentators, but a lot of their news program. It’s really not news, it’s pushing a point of view and the bigger thing is that other news organizations like yours, ought not to treat them that way. And we’re not going to treat them that way, we’re going to appear on their shows and participate, but understanding that they represent a point of view.”

    “Watch our exchange HERE”

    http://blogs.abcnews.com/george/2009/10/axelrod-fox-news-is-not-really-a-news-organization/comments/page/2/

    About all Axelrod could say was Fox pushed point a view in video provided. That’s not damning reasons to dismiss Fox. Gosh I have watched CNN and can say they push a point of view. The simple fact is ‘point of view’ is fact of life. It resonates in movies, conversation and the political arena. Everywhere when people are involved.

    Jd complains that Nate is bias and ‘point of view’ is against obama. Maybe Nate and I say JD ‘point of view’ is bias toward obama. Therefore, JD minority view should be censored here. Doesn’t sound American does it. But change scenario by proving JD lied, then censorship can be justified. Interesting concept. hummm

    Axelrod didn’t say Fox news lied. I’m sure he would have if he could. Cutting head off of enemy is thing to do in war.

    We viewers of Fox have seen first negative information on obama. To appear later on other news medias. There in lies obama’s problems. Maybe without Fox Jones would still be Czar. Maybe Acorn would still be receiving government money and not shamed.

    You see lots and lots of news media wear rose colored glasses. That is obama’s ’point of view’ wanted.

    Maybe worrisome issues would disappear without Fox.

  • JD

    Oh hey bill… I didn’t notice you here. Are you still posting on this site?

  • Bill Hedges

    Yeah JD. Problem taken care of to my satisfaction…

  • JD,

    How did you like the response to your comment about Obama and Fox News? Did it address the issue that you proposed precisely?

  • Bill Hedges

    I understand main street news media are providing less fluff and more substance. Their low rating can only go so low. Although their owners have been given compensation by government by obama, no new infusion of money has occurred.

    Left to fend monetarily for themselves, they must compete with fox. Which means being critical of Congress and the administration instead of a extension of it. To accurately paint instead of white-wash. Another way of saying doing their job as attended. Is why news was given freedom of the press in our Constitution.

    Administration desire to nick this in the bud is bound to fail. As poor Nixon found out.

    Kenny question to JD:

    ” Did it address the issue that you proposed precisely?”

    Kind of hard to answer ‘precisely’ when JD says :

    “I have mixed emotions on this.”

    You see Jd is undecided. Honestly. Or he would not say it.

    Jd is still grafting with his emotions. After a good cry and soul search, he my become one with the issue. Then express his concern more ‘precisely’ so I may serve his quench for knowledge. I know he so wishes to learn.

    Am sure kenny you understand. Shall we feel his pain. After all, what is politics if not empathy.

    As Harry Reid likes to do, shall we gather togeher and hug.

  • Bill Hedges

    “Media Coverage of Obama Grows More Negative
    Obama’s positive press coverage has slipped from 59 percent to 43 percent”

    By Nikki Schwab
    September 14, 2009

    “What happened to the media’s crush on President Obama? In the second 100 days of his administration, the majority of press coverage was bad, with the president’s policy proposals receiving more criticism than praise from reporters. According to a study by researchers at George Mason and Chapman universities, 59 percent of press coverage was positive during Obama’s first 100 days in office, but then it dipped to 43 percent from May through mid-August. Especially tough on Obama was Fox News. Researchers analyzed portions of “Special Report with Bret Baier” because it most resembled a network newscast and found that 25 percent of the show’s coverage of the president was positive. That’s actually a little higher than the 21 percent positive coverage Obama garnered from the Fox News Channel show during his first 100 days.”

    http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/washington-whispers/2009/09/14/media-coverage-of-obama-grows-more-negative.html

    “This study covers 2480 news stories about the Obama administration that appeared on the ABC, CBS, and NBC evening newscasts, the front page of the New York Times, and Time and Newsweek from January 20 through August 19. We also conducted a separate analysis of 1193 stories on the Fox News Channel “Special Report.” This research was conducted by researchers at George Mason University in Fairfax VA and Chapman University in Orange CA, and coordinated by the Center for Media and Public Affairs (CMPA). For information on our methodology see:”

    http://www.cmpa.com/about_methods.htm

    “Examples:”

    “Positive: He has made the country comfortable with himself as president. They seem to like his approach, how he argues through things… — Jeff Greenfield, CBS, April 26”

    “Negative: After coming into office saying they were going to engage Iran and after six months of doing nothing, what do they do now? — David Gregory, CBS, June 13”

    “Policies Hit Hardest Mr. Obama’s policies attracted the greatest criticism in the media. Since he took office on Jan. 20, evaluations of his policies by reporters and sources have been 43% positive and 57% negative, while all other evaluations of him have been 68% positive and 32% negative. Although the heaviest criticism came on foreign policy issues, every major policy initiative has received more negative than positive evaluations.”

    “The president’s economic stimulus plan garnered the best press—47% positive—and the war on terror the worst—only 26% positive. On other issues, coverage of the administration’s health care reform policies was 44% positive, general economic policy was 41% positive, the financial bailouts of various industries received 35% positive comments, policies on Israel and the Middle East were 30% positive, and Afghanistan policies got 29% positive evaluations.”

    “Mr. Obama’s coverage throughout his term has been mainly favorable in the New York Times (61% positive evaluations), evenly balanced (50% positive) at the broadcast networks, and slightly negative (48% positive) in the news magazines.
    Worst Press on FOX President Obama fared far worse on Fox News Channel’s “Special Report” than on the broadcast networks or the prestige press—only 23% positive v. 77% negative evaluations. [We analyzed the first half-hour of “Special Report,” which most resembles the broadcast network newscasts in format.]”

    “Unlike the other outlets we analyzed, FOX has been consistent in the tone of its coverage, with 21% positive evaluations during the administration’s first 100 days and 25% positive evaluations since then. Like the other outlets, FOX was most critical of Mr. Obama’s policies. They received only 15% positive evaluations, compared to 41% positive evaluations on all other aspects of his presidency.”

    http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/washington-whispers/2009/09/14/media-coverage-of-obama-grows-more-negative.html
    ?

    I guess ” FOX has been consistent in the tone of its coverage, with 21% positive evaluations during the administration’s first 100 days and 25% positive evaluations since then” is key to Fox success.

    obama’s theory may be shut Fox mouth and things will get better. Reminds me of Nixon.