Dishonest Dems battle each other over health care

It seems to be that the ones “standing in the way of reform,” to quote President Obama, reside in his own party at this point. The daggers have come out from the various factions and special interest groups of the Democrat Party over Obamacare and everyone wants their specific piece of the sickening government pie. Furthermore, this is all happening out of the public eye since Obama is increasingly unpopular.

The WaPo reports:

WASHINGTON — You may think Democrats and Republicans are at odds over health care. Well, they’ve got nothing on House and Senate Democrats going after each other.

The intraparty disputes may prove the most grueling test of all as Congress tries to write a bill that fulfills President Barack Obama’s goal of extending coverage to millions of Americans and reining in rising medical costs.

The disagreements extend well beyond whether or not to allow the government to sell insurance in competition with the private market, though fissures over the so-called public plan – preferred in the House, less so in the Senate – have drawn the most attention.

Some of the toughest fights loom over what requirements employers should have to shoulder to see that their workers are covered, and perhaps stickiest of all, how to make coverage affordable and pay for extending it to millions of uninsured.

Senators would tax high-value health insurance plans to pay for covering the uninsured, an approach supporters say would curb health costs because it would lead to employers offering less generous benefits. The more populist House would tax the highest-income people, placing the burden of caring for the neediest Americans on the backs of millionaires.

“I don’t know how you split that difference,” said Rep. Artur Davis, D-Ala., a member of the House Ways and Means Committee. “It’s not just about numbers. These are philosophical differences about how you pay for reform.”

Any showdown between the House and Senate is a ways off, and will happen only if both succeed in passing their own health bills. Democratic leaders in both houses are working to finalize their legislation – a process that is itself fraught with difficulties – in time to hold floor debates within the next several weeks.

Presuming the House and Senate do pass bills, they will go to a conference committee made up of Democratic leaders and key committee chairs from both chambers. There, with plenty of input from the White House, the most powerful members of Congress will fight it out in private.

The most sickening aspect here is that the details are being hammered out behind closed doors. These arrogant politicians are creating legislation that will affect you, me and every other American yet we aren’t privy to hear the discussions on the matter. President Obama promised these deliberations would be broadcast on C-SPAN, yet another broken promise on transparency to add to the list.

Shame on you, Mr. President, shame on you. We the people have not been involved unless you count the numerous Town Halls where America spoke out against nationalization of health care. You have not taken anyone’s ideas except those from the left-wing of the Democrat Party. You chastised those people at the Town Halls calling them “out of the mainstream” and a “handful of extremists.” Furthermore, now the details are indeed being discussed and they are not on C-SPAN as promised, they are taking place in Harry Reid’s office so we don’t know what the options are or what is being discussed.

They have to do this in private because it is so heinous the way they are pushing bigger government and bureaucratic control on the American people, they should be ashamed. They do indeed have shame which is why they are hiding themselves until they have figured out a way to maneuver and lie about what they want to do with health care.

Brit Hume can wrap this up by tearing down the Baucus Bill and putting it all into perspective:

Amen to that.

  • JD

    Can’t wait for it to pass!

  • Can’t wait for 2010 when the Democrats inevitably lose congress and the epic Obamacare failure is repealed before it even takes effect in 2013!

    JD, I know you checked the critical thinking part of your brain out of the health care conversation months ago, no need to illustrate that further. Just don’t ask the rest of the engaged people in the room to be as naive, benighted and gullible.

  • Bill Hedges

    I thought I was on wrong article, didn’t JD present the exact same evident and comments on another article ??? I guess JD head has to be buried in the dirt like a ostrich, the biggest bird. This health plan fiasco has been debunked here. That is, is…

    Emotions dictates your brain, empathy and sympathy is your strategy for acceptance of this bill whence you use to defend. Only small minded thinkers accepts such logic.

    You ignore plan major flaws. Your position is indefensible, so you blindly follow Whiner and chief (term omygod is now out dated. No longer a god) and must stick to one liners. Elementary school recess style of argument. 2nd grader vs Teacher.

    Even populist who follow main stream lie news, show in numerous polls that demon-god health care bill is not supported. Know of no polls that shows people want government plan, they want their plan.

    In a open, uncontrolled setting, I don’t see Whiner and chief (term omygod is now out dated. No longer a god) answering questions. Thus the condemnations of Fox news. HE ridicules his only true minus cist.

  • Bill Hedges

    Nate said “Obamacare failure is repealed before it even takes effect in 2013!”

    I ubderstand date for at least some of plan is even futher out to 2015.

    To coin a liberal, How can our Commander and Chief allow suffering to wait until either 2013 or 2015. I don’t even hear these cries. PATHEIC LIBERALS… Maybe they wish to get re-elected. Postpond their doom…If they can.

    WHAT WE WILL HAVE IN LAW (if passed) IS INCREASES IN DIRECT AND INDIRECT TAXES TO PAY FOR IT. All incomes.IMMEDIATELY…PAYING FOR SOMETHING WE WON’T GET FOR YEARS.

  • Bill Hedges

    Nate, “Can’t wait for 2010 when the Democrats inevitably lose congress and the epic Obamacare failure is repealed before it even takes effect in 2013!”

    Can’t wait for the upcoming Governor races vote.

    Nate are you referring to Bill Clinton? A rhetorical question.

    The draft dodger who would not be king except for President Carter pardon. Who lost his law degree for dishonesty. Who very well would have been disbarred from being President (ok,not disbarred)if not for so many Democrats in Congress.

    Yes he lost parties majority in the both Houses ?

    Unlike Democrat wavering plan that delays for years (decade ???) even if its possible help to the uninsured, Republican plan can be implemented almost immediate in comparison. Seems that would be appealing for liberals

    If not for the desire to take over 17% of American economy by Democrats, our immediate plan virtue seems more pragmatic and helpful for the least of our brethren.

    I think true nature, in reality, is to collect the taxes to stop implosion in Social security, Medicaid, Medicare, and even post office debt. Let alone the supernova of non-existent shovel ready stimulus and the other pork barrel Democrat Congress and prez requited irresponsiblity spending laws.

    No tort reform in bill, thus protecting 2nd largest Democrat campaign revenue.

    Is Acorn still involved in health bill ???

    Of course if health care plan fails, is result of Republican party. Who also is responsible for both Twin tower attacks, innocent lives lost in battle, volcanoes erupting, and all other wrongs in the world. Like Fox news all would be well without Republicans focusing the light on Whiner and chief (term omygod is now out dated. No longer a god).

    “President Obama promised these deliberations would be broadcast on C-SPAN, yet another broken promise on transparency to add to the list.”

    The fact that Whiner & Chief said that during campaign is obvious indisputable. Like so many promises they were made to gain votes not fulfill. His promises are like a leaf in the jet stream. Ever changing position.

    Is funny I heard on Fox news a liberal say people voted obama in office for health care plan. I felt cheated that limited time did not allow Conservative to answer. That is the problem with time restrictions. Above quote was also part of promise. As people show in polls this plan is not what they expected or want.

    Had obama gave promises he would keep and unveiled his real health plan, then man with many houses could be our President today…

  • Bill Hedges

    JD wrote in ripping apart article:

    “Finally to get to your terrifically and retardedly cut sound bite video you posted. It is well known that Obama is for a single pay health care system. Hell he even said it in his debates against Hillary when she was singing about SINGLE payer universal healthcare but he also said right after that because of the nature and history of United states healthcare industry “Single” Payer universal healthcare is not a practical option. That you can not eliminate health insurance industry but instead you have to compete with it.”

    Sounds logical till you consider a few things. Private health insurance will have to raise their premiums to pay extra taxes the government is going to charge private companies, subsidizing the public plan. Even worse for so called ‘Cadillac plans’. Which may get luxury tax of like 40%. Car union insurance is also subsidized by government. Medicaid charges to States will also be raised, except for Sen. Reid State of Arizona and maybe others. To gain votes.

    So your terms “terrifically and retardedly cut sound bite video you posted.” said to Nate__ Isn’t

    And JD when you wrote “That you can not eliminate health insurance industry but instead you have to compete with it.”

    It is an unfair competition because public plan will be lowered and private higher because of added on taxes to private. To benefit public plan. As previously explained.

  • JD

    Nate – “JD, I know you checked the critical thinking part of your brain out of the health care conversation months ago, no need to illustrate that further. Just don’t ask the rest of the engaged people in the room to be as naive, benighted and gullible.”

    Don’t be a hater Nate…. Wait… You have been a hater since the election.

    It. Might. be time for you to move on and learn to love again.

  • Bill Hedges

    JD wrote:

    “Can’t wait for it to pass! ”

    Nate wrote:

    “JD, I know you checked the critical thinking part of your brain out of the health care conversation months ago, no need to illustrate that further. Just don’t ask the rest of the engaged people in the room to be as naive, benighted and gullible.”
    ………………..

    That is why I quoted back when you wrote more than one liners. A man who is so positive in passage of this bill must have sound reasons and should be examined. Turns out my examination of your reasoning is less than stellar. Accurately lacking. Accurately incorrect.

    After my debunking, you criticize Nate. Of course ignoring shortcomings of your belief in previous comment as I outlined.

    Lets examine what you wrote:

    1. “Don’t be a hater Nate…. Wait… You have been a hater since the election. ”

    Nate said he would be neutral during the election. Was it to let people “You decide” ??

    I don’t see any hate in Nate’s article. Oh yes, you are referring to his comment. Well as we all know, ‘truth hurts’ doesn’t it JD. For you ‘truth make you hate.’ Not Nate. Nate stated the truth about your one liner.

    The plans flaw are self evident on this site and what all the polls show. Your ability to defend plan is not even attempted lately, ok one liners, which even they don’t defend bill. You know a losing battle to defend don‘t you.

    2. “Might be time for you to move on and learn to love again. ”

    Of course political love. This is political site. Unlike ranting of your last comment.

    Attempting to read Nate’s thoughts, I bet he would love to love bills obama signed. Bills good for America. And sound.

    Hopefully JD you will ““JD, I know you checked the critical thinking part of your brain out of the health care conversation months ago, no need to illustrate that further. Just don’t ask the rest of the engaged people in the room to be as naive, benighted and gullible.”

    Instead of ignoring sound reasoning and saying “Can’t wait for it to pass! ”

    Join the enlightened voters who see short-comings as seen in polls and discussed here. Since that doesn’t appear to be occuring for you, don’t expect Nate to be a obamaite. I bet no one can place blinders on his eyes. What was it Patric Henry said ???

    Don’t continue sticking your head in a hole.

    To paraphrase Nate:

    One liners are not ‘critical thinking’.

  • Bill Hedges

    “HOW MUCH OBAMACARE COSTS THE AVERAGE FAMILY”

    By Dick Morris And Eileen McGann

    10.19.2009

    “If your household income is $66,000 a year, slightly above the national average, Obama’s healthcare bill will require you to spend 12 percent of your income — about $8,000 a year or almost $700 a month — to buy health insurance before you get any federal subsidy.”

    http://www.dickmorris.com/blog/2009/10/19/how-much-obamacare-costs-the-average-family/

    JD won’t open link. Enquring minds will to get the full cost. Suprise me JD…

  • http://washingtonindependent.com/63677/gop-blocks-extension-of-unemployment-insurance-again

    Last week, Senate Democratic leaders rolled out a proposal to extend unemployment insurance by 14 weeks — with an extra six weeks thrown in for those states where jobless figures have topped 8.5 percent — only to have Republicans block the measure on the chamber floor.

    Well, today it happened again.

    According to the office of Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), Democrats on Tuesday asked for consent to pass the bill, only to be shot down by GOP leaders.

    The Wall Street Journal is reporting that Republicans aren’t objecting to the extension, but to how it’s funded. (The Democrats’ plan would tap an expiring surtax on businesses, while the Republicans want to use unspent money from the stimulus bill.)

    The House has already passed its version of the extension. With unemployment numbers creeping up each month, the pressure’s on the Senate to work out a deal quickly.

  • http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/economy-a-budget/63683-republicans-must-stop-playing-politics-with-unemployment-benefits-sen-kirsten-gillibrand

    Republicans must stop playing politics with unemployment benefits (Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand)
    By Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) – 10/19/09 01:12 PM ET

    More than 7,000 people across the country are losing their unemployment benefits every single day because Republicans are playing politics. Hardworking, middle class families, who are already cutting coupons and squeezing pennies to make ends meet, are now going to have the last strand of the safety net pulled right out from under them, simply because Republicans are obstructing progress.

    Last week, the majority of my colleagues and I moved twice to extend unemployment benefits for millions of hardworking Americans who have been laid off and unable to find work in this difficult economy. These are our families, our friends, our neighbors. We all know someone who has been thrown into this situation.

    But rather than do what is right, Republicans did what was politically convenient, twice blocking the extension in an effort to derail other economic recovery programs.

    This week my colleagues and I will try again to extend the badly needed payments for another 13 weeks. It is my hope that Republicans will drop their obstruction and join with us to extend unemployment benefits to tens of thousands of hardworking Americans.

    With almost 14 million people unemployed around the country, the U.S. unemployment rate is approaching 10 percent; right here in New York, it’s 8.9% and 10.3% in New York City. Without an extension, tens of thousands of New Yorkers and about a million of our long-term unemployed nationwide will lose benefits by the end of the year. We must not allow this to happen, especially as the holidays approach. As our economic recovery continues to take shape, it’s crucial that we not forget about those families who are hurting the most, still struggling to find work in a very difficult job market.

    When I travel throughout New York, I speak to many who are struggling. They tell me how hard they are looking for jobs, that there simply aren’t any. When there is a job opening, hundreds of applicants show up and line up around the block for a chance to get hired. These are hard working people who would much prefer to work to put food on their table rather than accept a check from the government. But until our economy recovers to a point where it’s creating jobs at a sustainable pace, we must step in to help.

    Extending unemployment benefits is not only the morally right thing to do, it is good economic policy in a recession. These unemployment benefits not only put money in the hands of those that need it most, but they are immediately stimulative to the economy, as families use the funds for the most critical needs.

    So far this year in New York alone, 70,000 people in the Rochester/Finger Lakes region have collected unemployment benefits, 78% of whom relied on those benefits for their basic necessities; in the Hudson Valley region, more than 90,000 collected the benefits, 68% of whom relied on that income for their basic needs; more than 125,000 Long Island residents collected unemployment benefits, 76% of whom relied on that money to support their families; and in New York City, nearly 400,000 people collected unemployment benefits, 67% of whom relied on that money for their basic needs.

    The job market is historically the last step of an economic recovery, forcing the unemployed to bear the brunt of the recession the longest and making it increasingly difficult to find new work. It’s simply unfair and unreasonable to ask them to bear this burden without assistance, and I hope Republicans will stop obstructing and join us in helping our fellow Americans in their time of need.

    Cross-posted from The Huffington Post.

  • Bill Hedges

    “According to the office of Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), Democrats on Tuesday asked for consent to pass the bill, only to be shot down by GOP leaders.”

    So few Republicans in Congress, but those few, can do so much.

    How come Reid did not memtion Democrats that voted against. I wonder if any did vote against ? Hummmm

    I wonder how many Democrats voted against.

  • Bill Hedges

    Oh wait..

    Reid said “the majority of my colleagues ” did vote for.

    Well then, DEMOCRATS FAULT…

    MORE DEMOCRATS IN CONGRESS THAN REPUBLICANS…

    DON’T NEED BAD REPUBLICANS TO PASS

    DEMOCRATS CAN PASS ALL BY THEMSELVES ???

  • Bill Hedges

    Reid, did you try to pawn off blame on the other party. When your own party was not fully supporting ???

    Shame

  • Bill Hedges

    Lets see why Republicans and Democrats might have voted against the bill Reid:

    “The Wall Street Journal is reporting that Republicans aren’t objecting to the extension, but to how it’s funded. (The Democrats’ plan would tap an expiring surtax on businesses, while the Republicans want to use unspent money from the stimulus bill.”

    Democrats wanted to continue expiring tax. Adding to the all ready suffering of poor unemployed Americans. Don’t Democrats feel the pain of their brethren Reid ???

    Wise Republican and minority of Democrats united in pledge to lower their taxes. WAY TO GO. To feel their pain and pay for justly deserved unemployment extension from PORK FILLED unspent stimulus law.

    I say ‘way to go’ to our courageous Republicans and fellow Democrats for standing up for our citizens in need.

    When self center Reid opens his eyes bill can be passed to the betterment of our needy

  • Bill Hedges

    “Is FOX News “an arm of the Republican Party” as White House Communications Director Anita Dunn says?”

    By Dick Morris And Eileen McGann

    10.19.2009

    “Democratic and Independent voters beg to differ. A national survey shows that 46% of those who watch FOX News “just about every day” are Democrats or Independents as are 50% of those who watch it “several times each week” or more.”

    “Overall, the survey showed that 21% of all American voters watched FOX News every day and 18% watched it several times each week. So, combined, 39% watched the station several times each week or more.”

    • “Among Democrats, 17% watched it several times each week or more”

    • “Among Independents, 46% the station several times each week or more”

    • “And among Republicans, 55% tuned in several times each week or more”

    “The survey indicated that 11% of all American voters watched CNN “just about every day” and 20% watched several times each week or more.”

    “Combined, 31% watched CNN several times each week or more.”

    “For MSNBC, the totals were 10% watched just about every day and 8% watched several times each week. Combined, 18% watched MSNBC several times each week or more.”

    “These data, seen against the backdrop of the recent storm of White House criticism, casts the Administration attacks on FOX News in a different perspective. Could it be that the Obama Administration is concerned about FOX News not because it is “an arm of the Republican Party” but because it is so widely seen among Democrats and Independents?”

    “That the two top spokespeople for the Administration this Sunday (Emanuel and Axelrod) both chose to attack FOX News shows how obsessed this thin-skinned president is with his coverage. It is truly amateur hour at the White House from the top down.”

    “These data come from a national telephone survey taken by the Global Marketing Research Center in Melbourne Florida during the week of October 13-16, 2009. The survey was taken from a statistically valid national sample of 800 registered voters. 36% of the respondents said they voted for more Democrats than Republicans while 32% said they voted for more Republicans. 24% said they voted equally for each party.”

    “The survey was funded by the League of American Voters.”

    http://us.mc820.mail.yahoo.com/mc/welcome?.partner=sbc&.gx=1&.tm=1251340237&.rand=1u013evkjiomh#_pg=showMessage&sMid=0&&filterBy=&.rand=214333520&midIndex=0&mid=1_11090_APiyo0IAAMqXSty95wJtDFg3N6E&f=1&m=1_11090_APiyo0IAAMqXSty95wJtDFg3N6E,1_615_APyyo0IAAGDNStr4RQNVFXpAc7E,&sort=date&order=down&startMid=0&pSize=25&hash=b1931a72328f7c7914c34732b6cab52b&.jsrand=7916958

    League of American Voters is going to end up on Whiner & Chief’s ‘hit list’

  • Bill Hedges

    Whiner and chief (term omygod is now out dated. No longer a god) G-Hog attack on Fox news is his normal terrorist tactic. How many examples other than Sarah Palin, Joe the pumber, and Wilson will be wrongly crucified. Their crime was pointing out Whiners true nature, lies,
    and threat to his power base.

    Whiner & Chief is becoming another paranoid Richard Milhous Nixon.

    It seems inevitable another Watergate of sorts is in the making. In record time. Wasn’t the purpose of Watergate to gain information to shut people up or discredit them ??? Hummm. Fox news digging and finding stuff. Acorn, Czars. Bill Ayers, Health care plan, etc.

    Most all other main stream news medias toll the mark. More so, with the Fox…Gone.

  • http://www.banderasnews.com/0910/hb-leavingthecountry.htm

    Leaving the Country for Healthcare: Patients Save Money Outside US
    Kim Lamb Gregory – venturacountystar.com
    go to original
    October 02, 2009

  • Bill Hedges

    Is shame trial lawyers are second largest campaign contributers for Democrats.Can’t have tort reform. Allow free compitition between States. All the other quick changes not hated by voters. Then cost could be cheaper.

    Of course this has been said over and over again.

  • Bill Hedges

    Kenny

    Want me to teach you how to use ” “.

    Example:

    “Leaving the Country for Healthcare: Patients Save Money Outside US”

  • Bill Hedges

    “Gates: Afghanistan war strategy should come first”

    By LARA JAKES, Associated Press Writer Lara Jakes, Associated Press Writer – Mon Oct 19, 9:36 pm ET
    ABOARD A U.S. MILITARY JET –

    “The Obama administration needs to decide on a war strategy for Afghanistan without waiting for a government there to be widely accepted as legitimate, Defense Secretary Robert Gates said Monday.”

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091020/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_gates_afghanistan

    Maybe the only left over from Bush administration, Gates differs with Whiner and chief (term omygod is now out dated. No longer a god) at least in appearance. Soon he made be heading back to Texas A & M in College Station, Tx.. Home of Bush Sr. Presidential Library.

    Defense Secretary Robert Gates is a valiant man in the proud tradition of his University. Honor and what’s right. Definitely not a obamaite by any stretch of the imagination…

  • Bill Hedges

    Now THEY are talking about bill to give more money to Doctors. Separate from health bill. $300 billion. Added to National debt. Hummm.

    You see health bill will be balanced. Remember. Read his lips. Was it not a dine debt ???

    So let’s separate this from health bill. Real slippery arn’t they.
    ………………

    Now Whiner & Chief after Chamber of Commerce

    Prez finding new Palins to condemn.…

  • Bill Hedges

    “Political Punch”
    “Power, pop, and probings from ABC News Senior White House” Correspondent Jake Tapper
    October 20, 2009 10:53 AM

    “From this morning’s gaggle in White House press secretary Robert Gibbs’ office”:

    “Tapper: It’s escaped none of our notice that the White House has decided in the last few weeks to declare one of our sister organizations “not a news organization” and to tell the rest of us not to treat them like a news organization. Can you explain why it’s appropriate for the White House to decide that a news organization is not one” –

    “(Crosstalk)”

    “Gibbs: Jake, we render, we render an opinion based on some of their coverage and the fairness that, the fairness of that coverage.”

    “Tapper: But that’s a pretty sweeping declaration that they are “not a news organization.” How are they any different from, say” –

    “Gibbs: ABC” –

    “Tapper: ABC. MSNBC. Univision. I mean how are they any different?”

    “Gibbs: You and I should watch sometime around 9 o’clock tonight. Or 5 o’clock this afternoon.”

    “Tapper: I’m not talking about their opinion programming or issues you have with certain reports. I’m talking about saying thousands of individuals who work for a media organization, do not work for a “news organization” — why is that appropriate for the White House to say?”

    “Gibbs: That’s our opinion.”

    http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/10/todays-qs-for-os-wh-10202009.html#

    Was this off the cuff questions ???

    Was it approved by ABC ???

    Another Palin for Prez to condemn ???

    “Caissons go rolling along”…

  • Bill Hedges

    “New malpractice idea in health care debate”

    By RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR, Associated Press Writer Ricardo Alonso-zaldivar, Associated Press Writer – 50 mins ago

    WASHINGTON – “President Barack Obama’s willingness to consider alternatives to medical malpractice lawsuits is providing a boost for taking such cases out of the courtroom and letting experts, not juries, decide their merits.”

    “The idea of appointing neutral experts to sift malpractice facts from allegations appeals to conservatives in both political parties. They want to address medical liability as part of health care legislation that’s now largely silent on the issue. Trial lawyers remain steadfastly opposed to curbs.”

    “Doctors have maintained for years that fear of being sued leads them to order unneeded tests that raise costs for everyone. In Obama, they’ve found a Democratic president who accepts that premise.”

    “Validation has also come from the Congressional Budget Office. In a turnaround, it recently concluded that malpractice curbs would lower the federal deficit by $54 billion over 10 years, mainly because Medicare and Medicaid wouldn’t have to pay as much for defensive medicine.”

    “What Obama doesn’t accept is the idea of slapping hard limits on jury awards in malpractice cases, the remedy long advocated by doctors’ groups. So the search is on for alternatives.”

    “That’s what Richard Umbdenstock, president of the hospital association, says his industry has come up with. “We are trying to offer this as a constructive approach, to see if we can generate some interest,” he said.”

    “Under the plan, patients who’ve suffered an injury at the hands of a medical professional or institution could take their case to a local panel of experts appointed by state authorities.”

    “The patient wouldn’t have to prove negligence, only that the doctor could have avoided the problem by following established guidelines for clinical practice.”

    “If the experts find that a patient was harmed and the injury could have been avoided, the panel would offer compensation. Payments would not be open-ended, but based on a publicly available compensation schedule.”

    “A patient who disagrees with the local panel’s ruling could appeal to a higher-level panel, and ultimately, to a court.”

    “The hospitals’ proposal is similar to an idea for “health courts” from Common Good, a nonprofit group that advocates for changes in the legal system. All patients would benefit from such a system because it would create an incentive for doctors to follow clinical best practice guidelines, said lawyer Philip Howard, the group’s founder.”

    “It would also protect doctors who adhere to the standards, getting at the root of the problem of defensive medicine.”

    “Defensive medicine is the result of distrust by doctors in situations where they are blamed when a sick person get sicker, but they didn’t do anything wrong,” said Howard.”

    “But trial lawyers say that such an approach could infringe on constitutional rights.”

    “We think that health courts take away the right to a jury trial,” said Susan Steinman, policy director for the American Association for Justice, which represents lawyers.”

    “It’s unlikely that Congress would pass a law ordering states to adopt health courts. For one thing, trial lawyers are among the biggest contributors to Democratic candidates. But Harvard law and public health professor Michelle Mello says the federal government could encourage states to adopt such changes themselves, by offering financial grants. Sen. Mike Enzi, R-Wyo., an influential voice on health care, has advocated such an approach.”

    “The Obama administration is keeping all its options open. A stronger medical malpractice initiative could help the health care bill get votes from moderates and conservatives. It could also alienate some liberals. The political balance is unclear.”

    “HHS spokesman Nick Papas said any proposal that advances the president’s goals of protecting patients, reducing frivolous lawsuits, fairly and quickly compensating patients who are injured, and fostering more open communication between doctors and patients will be considered for funds under the administration’s $25 million pilot program.”

    “Medical malpractice reform is a hand extended to the Republicans,” said Marshall, the Democratic centrist. “But there’s no telling if they might swat it away.”

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091020/ap_on_go_co/us_health_care_medical_malpractice

    Humm. In wait and see mode…

  • Kenny

    Want me to teach you how to use ” “.

    Example:

    “Leaving the Country for Healthcare: Patients Save Money Outside US”

    I know how to use quotations. Looks like you still haven’t grown up. It’s not likely that you will do so before you expire.

  • New bill could up coverage for mental health

    http://badgerherald.com/news/2009/10/08/new_bill_could_up_co.php

    ““It’s 2009. We have great knowledge and information about mental illness, and it is not a ‘character flaw,’ it’s an actual affliction of the brain,” Pasch said.””

  • Bill Hedges

    In you 959 you did not put my quote in “”.

    Guess you don’t know how.

    Grown ups use “”

    Ask Nate.

    Your playing a dangerous game… Very bad to not use “” on quotes. Of course accidents happen. You are making it a practice. Done on other comments on this article other than me as well…

  • Bill Hedges

    You are now doing on purpose to spite. That’s child like

    Of course I advised Nate

  • lol, oh no Billy told the teacher, I hope I don’t have to stand in the corner. Grow up.