Nearly a million march on Washington defending liberty

Over the weekend on Saturday around a million freedom-loving Americans descended on Washington, DC to oppose bigger government, higher taxes and President Obama’s liberal political agenda. The estimates of the crowd size varied from “tens of thousands” in the Washington Post all the way to 2 million people according the UK Daily Mail.

Some reasonable estimates are most likely around 1 million people marching against government control and more failing programs. Having personally attended the march, I can attest for the size of the crowd which was overwhelmingly massive stretching from Freedom Plaza all the way to the Capital Building. After the march to the Capital, the crowd stretched almost the entire length of the National Mall.

Here’s an excellent video overview with no spin:

The obligatory street surveillance camera view of protesters gathering at Freedom Plaza then marching down Constitution Avenue to the Capital Building:

That video basically tells the story about the amount of people. Stretching that distance is not “tends of thousands” of people but rather closer to a million or more.

There were people of all ages and background there for one common goal: to restore the government to the people and stop the wasteful spending. It was awe-inspiring to see it all culminate.

Here are several photos I personally took while marching down Constitutional Avenue:

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That was my experience, the day was fantastic and these gatherings of taxpaying, freedom-loving, Americans have just begun.

Americans will not sit by idly by while Washington politicians thieve our rights, grow the size of government and radically change the landscape of America through redistributive social programs like Obamacare. These people marched standing for individual freedom and personal liberty, the antitheses of everything President Obama and the current Democrat leadership stands for.

This protest was an overwhelming huge success for Americans speaking out against the ridiculous amounts of debt and growing government. This massive gathering remarkably happened on an off-election year, of all times. Just imagine what this will be in 2010 during an actual election year.

I have been inspired and humbled by the amount of patriots coming out, most of whom attending something like this for the first time. Clearly America’s best days are ahead of her once the agenda of big government and failed social programs are defeated.

Update

Some further exploration of the crowd size based on the most useful information obtainable. This graphic comes courtesy of USAToday and was used to roughly estimate the amount of people able to attend President Obama’s inauguration seated in front of the Capitol Building and spilling into the National Mall.

As you can see, the rough estimate of filling both of those areas is about 1.2 million people.

Based on my actual experience from the march, pictures and media reports following the event, here is a Google Map I put together of where all the protesters were able to fill:


View 9/12 Rally Crowd Estimate in a larger map

The protest began in the blue area and filled Constitution Avenue entirely. From that point, protesters were dumped into the read area in front of the Capitol Building until that was filled. At which point, the remaining began filling the National Mall in the green area. Each portion is clickable with some description.

The simple equation shows that if the protesters filled Constitution Avenue from Freedom Plaza to the Capitol Building, then clearly throughout the day there are nearly a million people in attendance. The estimates of 65,000 or even 75,000 are terribly low given the simple fact that the crowd filled the length of Constitution Avenue alone. Even just that, as a one time event, is certainly over 500,000 people as a low estimate.

  • Bill Hedges

    I noticed the sign for Joe Wilson, a man who spoke the truth. Although he broke Jefferson’s rule. I must believe Thomas would have done the same thing. In spirit of ‘Let Freedom Ring’.

    “Not far from here where we gather today is a symbol of freedom familiar to all Americans — the Liberty Bell. When the Declaration of Independence was first read in public, the Liberty Bell was sounded in celebration, and a witness said: “It rang as if it meant something.”

    – George W. Bush, December 12, 2005. The reference is to The Old Bell of Independence, a work of fiction

    Our government ready to give $8.7 billion to Acorn. Now stopped.. Acorn was mechanism to elect Obama and Democrats without funding Republicans. Involved in Banking, sub-prime, voting, census (was, kicked out), and health bill fiasco.

    What I think so madden Democrats was Wilson told truth. Now they must plug the holes allowing abortion and health care for illegals. Having to acknowledge Wilson spoke truth, we must sanction Wilson. Some called this racist remark !! Wilson is the new Sarah Palin.

    I have found opposition has lost decorum. Not honest outrage of Wilson but idiotic class envy and racism remarks by obama and others. Pure non-sense because they have no justification.

    Tuesday, September 15, 2009

    “Video_Jimmy Carter: There Is “Racist Tone Against Obama”

    By GottaLaff

    http://thepoliticalcarnival.blogspot.com/2009/09/video-jimmy-carter-there-is-racist-tone.html

    Nate, Jimmy Carter must think you are a racist. Is becoming a badge of honor. Having nothing to do with race of course. Dirty trick to shut us up.

  • Bill Hedges

    “Opinion: So far, Obama’s failing miserably”

    By JEREMY LOTT | 9/15/09 6:49 AM EDT

    “When he ran for president, George W. Bush promised to be a modest reformer at home and a humble representative of the United States on the world stage. The Al Qaeda-organized-and-funded terrorist attacks of eight years ago changed all that. During his presidency, Bush created massive new government bureaucracies, sent troops into two wars and threatened more as part of America’s war on terror. “

    “Barack Obama’s initial approach to the office of the presidency has been as grandiose as Bush’s was restrained. It’s not hard to recall that he ran as a transformative candidate, promising sweeping, though somewhat fuzzy, “change” during the campaign..”

    “What all this means is, barring some unforeseeable world event, Obama’s will probably not be a historic presidency. He will have some successes and a lot of failures. His opposition won’t roll over, and his party will refuse to go along with his more costly, and thus risky, schemes. He won’t coast to reelection. “

    “So Obama now has the chance to be the sort of president Bush would have been if the World Trade Center towers had not come down. Here’s hoping he makes the best of it.”

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0909/27134.html

  • JD

    lol. A million!!??? No way.

    D.C. Fire and Emergency Department official says the crowds only reached Third Street (the Washington Monument is nestled between 15th and 17th) and crowds were likely around 60,000 to 75,000. That’s an unofficial estimate from the D.C. Fire Department, but the most legitimate estimate out there and it’s still an impressive number, but 925,000 short of a million.

    http://sayanythingblog.com/images/_Device_Memory_home_user_pictures_IMG00034-20090912-1328.jpg

    Here is a picture and it clearly shows the people only extending to about 3rd street which confirms the fire departments estimates.

    http://sayanythingblog.com/images/teapartycrowddiagram.jpg

    Still, it is always impressive to see demonstrations in the US capital.

  • JD

    FYI…

    Senate Financial Committee has released it’s “America’s Healthy Future Act” which has a ten-year, $856 billion price tag, includes co-ops.

    FULL PROPOSAL: Read it here (pdf).

    http://finance.senate.gov/sitepages/leg/LEG%202009/091609%20Americas_Healthy_Future_Act.pdf

    Finance chair expected to hold midday presser on the bill.

    Plus: Baucus pleads his case in Wednesday Wall Street Journal op-ed. Read them here.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203917304574411482607545574.html

  • Bill Hedges

    My Bill Hedges Sep 15th, 2009 at 7:08 pm from previous article discuses Baucus. It seems Liberals may have trouble with it.

    How this or any plan will turn out is unknown. Polls seem to suggest dislike. The gain after obama’s speech has dropped down to where it was.

    Was delighted that you wrote a political comment with links. Later when I have time will read the links.

  • Bill Hedges

    Max Baucus(D-MT)is now talking about his plan. ALONE. NO CO-SIGNERS

    Effective 2013. President evidently likes plan. He alone, not full gang of six, is speaking out at news conference.

    Under consideraion for like year. Would be merged with Kenendy bill so this bill is not the end all according to some. Changes expected to gain votes.

    Take full effect after next President election ????????? Joining ranks of ‘shovel ready’ …NOT

    Great thing about wait before taking effect, The People have time to vote their like of plan. Newt and Republican majority control was answer for Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton had a health plan ???

    Instead of passing biggest legislation and biggest tax increase for middle class, fine tuning health care is all that is necessary. Insuance companies can be required to accept pre-conditions. Open up insurance to compitition outsidde State lines., stop State restrictions to free insurance choie, malpractice limitation, etc. No need for for take-over.
    ……….

    Czar war begining by Republicans. Van Jones example. Siting bizzare beliefs of many Czars unapproved by Congress, and Czars not well vented.

  • Bill Hedges

    “Snowe bails on “compromise” ObamaCare bill; Update: Baucus plan cuts Medicare”

    “Democrats in the Senate had hoped to get a fig leaf of bipartisanship from Olympia Snowe or Susan Collins (R-ME) once Max Baucus rolled out his supposedly moderate bill for overhauling the American health-care system. Yesterday, Snowe rejected the bill, leaving Democrats isolated and divided on the bill, just days after Obama demanded action on the effort:”

    “Chairman Max Baucus (D-Mont.) failed to win any Republican backer despite weeks of intense negotiations behind closed doors to strike a deal.”

    “This means that the Democrats will have to try reconciliation to get the bill through the Senate. Snowe’s rejection, however, hides another unpleasant fact that would have been apparent, which is that Democrats don’t have all of the other 59 votes needed, either. Other Democrats have already expressed unhappiness with individual mandates, IRS involvement, and the costs.”

    “HOW’S IT PAID FOR: Fees on insurance companies, drug makers, medical device manufacturers and insurers. Tax of 35 percent on insurance plans costing more than $8,000 for individuals and $21,000 for families, applied to premium amounts over the threshold. Cuts to Medicare and Medicaid. A fee on employers whose workers receive government subsidies to help them pay premiums. Fines on those who fail to get coverage.”

    “Baucus wants to tax the overall cost of the plans, not the portion that employees pay through payroll contributions. The average plan premium in the US is over $4800 per year for individuals and $13,300 for families. The Kaiser Family Foundation report does not detail the distribution of plans over $5788/$16,000 respectively, but 18% of individuals and 20% of families have this more expensive coverage, which means that Baucus’ taxes will almost certainly hit more than the top 5% of families and individuals.”
    ……….

    _____NOTE_____

    “Gee, didn’t Barack Obama claim that Medicare cuts were a “myth”? Why, yes he did:”

    “Robert Kocher of the National Economic Council debunks the myth that Health Insurance Reform would be financed by cutting Medicare benefits.”

    “I wait with bated breath for Obama to denounce Baucus as a mythmaker”

    http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/16/snowe-bails-on-compromise-obamacare-bill/

    About note, “I wait with bated breath ” as well. I yEll… LIAR, again…

    You can buy anything from anywhere in America..Except for Health insurance.

  • Bill Hedges

    As I understand it, Prez is saying Republicans should come on board the health care bill now that illegals and abortion is out. Gee Prez, you lied when you spoke to Congress ??? Anyhow Prez you were not listening. There are more problems guy. Listen to Fox news and be educated. Not the kool-ade news media version.

    In his Congressional speech he said it was out, but American hero called him to task, forcing obama’s lie to be changed as Wilson pointed out. Of course Wilson was demolished for such behavior. Calling Prez a liar when he was. Outrageous !!!

    Plan announced today taxes insurance companies, not people. WOW. This may be believed by a Liberal. Who doesn’t understand indirect taxes concept ??? With technicalities, obama honors promises. I say NO HONOR OBAMA.
    ……….

    In other news, Republicans are asking__ How many Czars ??? Guesses are between 19-60. No word from White House yet…
    Why the secretcy ???

  • Bill Hedges

    “Constitutional Law”

    “PRESIDENT OBAMA’S HEALTH CARE SPEECH”

    Posted September 10, 2009

    “I’m not going to write a lengthy response to the speech because first, there was really nothing new in it, and secondly, he did not address the Constitutional issues. In fact, most of the health care bill supporters are running like mad from having to respond to questions from Americans on those issues”

    http://michaelconnelly.viviti.com/

    “For those who might doubt the nature of this threat I suggest they consult the source. Here is a link to the Constitution:”

    http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_transcript.html

    “And another to the Bill of Rights:”

    http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/bill_of_rights_transcript

  • Bill Hedges

    I give President Obama credit for refuting senile Jimmy Carter’s racism remakes. He was a bad President, good humanitarian, and Looney -tune god. Jimmy, stick to hammering. Bill Clinton health care bill did not fail because of racism. Similar reasons I want obama to lose on health care bill

  • Bill Hedges

    “45% of doctors could quit or retire if government overhaul health care poll.”

    Name of poll not given

    Saw on Fox news_ Your World with Neil Cavuto

  • Bill Hedges
  • bones

    Factcheck.org just published an article about this, and how conservative bloggers are massively exaggerating the turn out. How timely, eh?

    http://factcheck.org/2009/09/how-many-protesters/

  • Bill Hedges

    “WWE CEO Linda McMahon wades into Conn. Senate race”

    By ANDREW MIGA, Associated Press Writer Andrew Miga, Associated Press Writer – 38 mins ago

    WASHINGTON –” Pro wrestling executive Linda McMahon has never been shy about wading into the ring — and now she’s plotting a smackdown of Connecticut Sen. Christopher Dodd. World Wrestling Entertainment Inc. said Wednesday McMahon has resigned as the company’s chief executive to seek the Republican nomination for Dodd’s seat, providing a show-business twist to one of the nation’s marquee Senate races.”

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090916/ap_on_bi_ge/us_wwe_ceo_senate

    I would pick a dead person over Dodd. She would add class over Dodd…

  • Bill Hedges

    bones

    Good link, but bad concusion.

    You said:

    “Factcheck.org just published an article about this, and how conservative bloggers are massively exaggerating the turn out. How timely, eh?”

    Article said:

    “We’ve often observed an odd quirk in the behavior of political partisans; they tend to exaggerate even when they could make their point without doing”

    You equate to Conservatives. Not so limited by article.
    They gave recent example.

  • Bill Hedges

    bones

    Of interest to me is what Conservative watch dogs said in your link:

    “Fox News: The tens of thousands of protesters marched to the U.S. Capitol chanting various slogans and waving posters.”

    Although all news medias make mistakes, I trust Fox news the most.

    ABC was one way off and they are not Consevative.

  • Bill Hedges

    JD

    In your link obama said:

    “That’s why I have been disappointed to read misinformation about our proposal. The reality is that our plan controls spending without adding to the federal deficit, expands coverage, protects consumers from unfair insurance industry practices, and puts choice back into the hands of consumers and businesses”

    There may be some “misinformation” that always exist on most everything. There is a lot of real information. As he gave lie information in Congressional speech, pointed out by American hero Wilson.

    Obama attempt at taking the high road here is pathitic. His own misinformation leads us down a twisted road, not up. Clean you own House obama…

  • Bill Hedges

    September 15, 2009
    “Instant Classic: Bin Laden Recommends Jimmy Carter’s Book “Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid”….

    http://www.weaselzippers.net/blog/2009/09/instant-classic-bin-laden-recommends-jimmy-carters-book-palestine-peace-not-apartheid.html
    ……….

    “Bin Laden family gave $1 million to Carter
    Ex-president reportedly met with terror leader’s brothers in 2000

    Posted: June 02, 2006

    http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=50468

  • Bill Hedges

    “A million march to US Capitol to protest against ‘Obama the socialist'”
    By David Gardner
    Last updated at 6:59 AM on 14th September 2009

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1213056/Up-million-march-US-Capitol-protest-Obamas-spending-tea-party-demonstration.html#ixzz0RJjKlpJu

    Here is Nate’s source, as given in Nate’s article.
    I have found he backs with links.

    Are links sometime wrong ??? Yes.

  • bones

    Bill,

    from the article:
    “The New York Times said the number was “well into the tens of thousands” and that “the magnitude of the rally took the authorities by surprise, with throngs of people streaming from the White House to Capitol Hill for more than three hours.”

    That’s not a small group.

    And yet, organizers claimed that 1.5 million attended. And they quoted ABC News as saying the same thing, which ABC News did not. The 1.5 million figure (and even larger ones) have since been picked up and repeated by conservative bloggers, usually attributing the number to ABC News.”

    So yes, the article discussed conservative bloggers spreading inflated attendance numbers.

  • bones

    ps: yes, this is not a new thing, and liberals inflate their protest numbers too. But both sides should be called on it.
    The title of this post “Nearly a million march on washington defending liberty” is extremely misleading.

  • Just in time, the Bobbsey Twins Bones and JD came in to trip over their own ignorance yet again.

    See my post update for some revealing information regarding the crowd size. I know you didn’t think I’d say a “million” without being able to defend it.

    I don’t have time to respond to you individually and neither of you matter anyway.

    Bottom line, there was more than 100,000 people and less than 2 million people. I’m betting around 1 million as a reasonable estimate and I can defend that as shown above.

    Just look at the facts above and get on with your government-centric lives.

  • Bill Hedges

    “ACORN Story Resources”

    ttp://biggovernment.com/

  • Bill Hedges

    bones

    Your attempt to place blame on Conservatis was not what article said. I quoted link properly. You did not.

    That was my point. You mislead.

    I put your quote next to link quote and there was no match.

  • The other thing you boys are missing is that people stremead in during the entire day. Some people got there at 7am to Freedom Plaza while others were just showing up around 1 in the afternoon for the afternoon speakers.

    During the entire day, there was at least 500,000 people to a million in attendance. There were probably not 1 million there all at the same time during the day but that is probably the high estimate from the entire day and everyone coming and going during the day.

    Remember, there were 3 hours of speakers in the morning and another 3 hours in the afternoon. Not everyone stayed all day long but the majority were there for the march from about 11:15am to 12:15pm.

    Anyone looking at the maps and pictures of the crowd can see that.

    Bill, ACORN is totally corrupt and hopefully they have destroyed themselves by their own stupidity in those videos.

  • Bill Hedges

    bones

    I copy and paste to get exact quote.

    You should follow my lead instead of making things up to fit your political agenda.

    I check links provided

  • Bill Hedges

    Conservative Gal

    Long time since seeing you throwing kisses with flag in background.

    Acorn hopefully will be cast out with obama, Dodd, Frank, etc, etc, etc…

    Newt. Newt, Newt

  • bones

    Nate
    Having a bad week? I don’t recall you ever throwing in name calling. And I “don’t matter”? I’m not entirely sure how I feel about having my existence invalidated by the Great Nathaniel. Sounds defensive to me. But you did update with some reasonable crowd-estimate evidence, so what more can I ask for.

    Lots of people were there protesting either way. I’m not trying to demean their demonstration. I’m mostly skeptical of the numbers simply because I live in the DC area and didn’t hear any word of it until the day after. If it was among the largest protests in DC’s history, I would have expected to hear word about it.

    Bill, you are near impossible to have a discussion with. You are always so eager to tear differing opinions apart, and reluctant to see what they’ve actually written.

  • Bill Hedges

    bones

    First you say:

    “Factcheck.org just published an article about this, and how conservative bloggers are massively exaggerating the turn out. How timely, eh?”

    I call you on misquoting article and you say”

    “And yet, organizers claimed that 1.5 million attended. And they quoted ABC News as saying the same thing, which ABC News did not. The 1.5 million figure (and even larger ones) have since been picked up and repeated by conservative bloggers, usually attributing the number to ABC News.”

    First off Conservative are quoting ABC which is not a conservative source. But you blame conservative for quoting them ? Doesn’t fly.

    “So yes, the article discussed conservative bloggers spreading inflated attendance numbers

    No, if , if inflated, was ABC fault. They gave the numbers…

    So you continue to reflect unto Conservatives wrongly.

    I understand we put obama down a lot. But have no need to make it up. There is so much for us to discuss. More coming everyday.

    Liberals have so little they must make up, racism most recent…
    …..

    Poor bones, sorry I copy and paste what you say, but miss what you wrote….Get real

  • Bill Hedges

    bones

    Don’t leave. I truely enjoy taking you commentS line by line And destroying.

    Pleae stay. PLEASE…

  • Bill Hedges

    bones

    Nate, Conservative gal, and I, all don’t understand you.

  • bones

    No worries Bill, I’m still here. And touched that you care.

    You misread the article I posted, and you’re misrepresenting it here. ABC did not report 1.5 million protesters.

    From the 1st line of the 4th paragraph: “organizers claimed that 1.5 million attended. And they quoted ABC News as saying the same thing, which ABC News did not”

    So Bill, everything you said in your 9:55 post doesn’t make any sense unless you completely misunderstood the article I posted. Here’s the link again, read it again and see if what I’ve written makes more sense: http://factcheck.org/2009/09/how-many-protesters/

  • Bill Hedges

    bones

    I stand corrected. Way to go.

    Now. You be as honest…

  • bones

    I don’t really understand what specific dishonesty you’re accusing me of Bill, but I’ll be happy to cop to it if I find a mistake I’ve made. Maybe you could help me by pointing out what you believe I’ve misrepresented?

  • Bill Hedges

    A million march to US Capitol to protest against ‘Obama the socialist’
    By David Gardner
    Last updated at 6:59 AM on 14th September 2009
    Comments (279) Add to My Stories As many as one million people flooded into Washington for a massive rally organised by conservatives claiming that President Obama is driving America towards socialism

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1213056/Up-million-march-US-Capitol-protest-Obamas-spending-tea-party-demonstration.html#ixzz0RKJoVOJu

  • Bill Hedges

    Maybe corrected on one source. Seems to be many opinions.

  • Bill Hedges

    bones

    “Factcheck.org just published an article about this, and how conservative bloggers are massively exaggerating the turn out. How timely, eh?”

    I call you on misquoting article and you say”

    “And yet, organizers claimed that 1.5 million attended. And they quoted ABC News as saying the same thing, which ABC News did not. The 1.5 million figure (and even larger ones) have since been picked up and repeated by conservative bloggers, usually attributing the number to ABC News.”

    Now, wish to state you worded your statement wrong ????

  • bones

    If you can’t be specific, Bill, I don’t know what you’d like me to say. I can neither confirm nor refute vague insinuations.

  • Bill Hedges

    Wrong one. Just a minute

  • Bill Hedges

    Bill Hedges Sep 16th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
    bones

    Good link, but bad concusion.

    You said:

    “Factcheck.org just published an article about this, and how conservative bloggers are massively exaggerating the turn out. How timely, eh?”

    Article said:

    “We’ve often observed an odd quirk in the behavior of political partisans; they tend to exaggerate even when they could make their point without doing”

    You equate to Conservatives. Not so limited by article.
    They gave recent example.
    …….

    Want to admit you made mistake

  • Bill Hedges

    bones

    I remember two mistakes you found. If I remember right. This recent one and long ago military spending. I have written maybe 20 fold more comments than you.

    It is very common to tear yours up.

    But I give you credit for 2. lol

  • bones

    Bill, I never tried to say that exaggerating protest numbers was partisan one way or another. Both sides do it. I even pointed that out in my 8:42 post. But exaggerating THESE numbers in THIS protest is something being done primarily by conservative bloggers. For what it’s worth I’ll happily admit that liberals are probably doing their best to downplay those numbers as insignificant

  • Bill Hedges

    Yes, after being caught

  • Bill Hedges

    numbers are from non-conservative sourse

  • Bill Hedges

    “Bill, I never tried to say that exaggerating protest numbers was partisan one way or another”

    “Factcheck.org just published an article about this, and how conservative bloggers are massively exaggerating the turn out. How timely, eh?”

    Later, you said both

  • bones

    Saying that I was ‘caught’, Bill, would imply that I said something to the contrary, which I did not. I was clarifying because I felt I was being misunderstood.

    And numbers come from many sources. The ones I was talking about were, so far as I can tell, fabricated by someone unknown, credited to ABC news and spread through conservative blogs without even the most basic of fact checking.

  • Bill Hedges

    Just be honest, llke I was

  • bones

    “Factcheck.org just published an article about this, and how conservative bloggers are massively exaggerating the turn out. How timely, eh?”

    This statement referred specifically to this demonstration, not general partisan tendencies, and is entirely accurate

  • Bill Hedges

    Thus you prove Nate was right about you

  • Bill Hedges

    “Organizers of such events, regardless of their partisan leanings, commonly claim higher numbers than public officials or news reporters estimate. When the National Park Service produced an official estimate that 460,000 had turned out for the so-called “Million Man March” in 1995, organizers threatened to file a lawsuit. After that, Congress prohibited the Park Service from making official estimates.”

  • Bill Hedges

    Yep. Nate was right…

  • Bill Hedges

    You need to copy and paste. Stop making up

  • Bill Hedges

    You use example for your cause. You ignore the true meaning of the link. That is dishonest. Refuse to admit mistake. That’s acting like a dog.

    Write your future comments well

  • Bill Hedges

    “Organizers of such events, regardless of their partisan leanings, commonly claim higher numbers than public officials or news reporters estimate.”

    Here is news reporters estimate:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1213056/Up-million-march-US-Capitol-protest-Obamas-spending-tea-party-demonstration.html

  • Bill Hedges

    Your twisting out of situation got too tight and you run away.

    To feel even worse check Nate’s update.

    Hear from you in another 3 months ???

  • Bill Hedges

    9/23/2008
    “Unmitigated Garbage from FactCheck.org on Obama’s Second Amendment Record”

    “Xrlq points us to this ridiculous FactCheck.org piece on Obama and gun rights. I am by now completely disenchanted with FactCheck.org and virtually every other “fact checking” site out there, and this piece does nothing to dispel my depression”

    http://patterico.com/2008/09/23/unmitigated-garbage-from-factcheckorg-on-obamas-second-amendment-record/

  • Holy smoke. Way to go bones for playing with Bill. I’m sure you made his day. Especially when he back peddles and admits he’s wrong. Well done. LoL

  • Bill Hedges

    kEN

    Yes I admit my mistake. A concept you, Jd, and bones don’t practice. Then again, is rare you three write comments.

    bones does not admit his mistate here. But all is getting better for obama. lol.ha-ha

    My mistake had to do not noticing a word ‘not’. You all support obama. My mistake seems small in comparisome to yous

  • Bill Hedges

    Well enjoy you little win. My missing ‘not’ is a triumph for you all. Now craw back in your shell as big bombs rein on your parade…

    From my Brother
    ……….

    Here are a few ‘unaware’ …and the list is growing daily

    April 15th, 2009 5:03 pm Barack Obama, through his spokesman, claimed today that he was unaware of the tax day tea parties. Granted, the MSM has done a good job in suppressing any sort of coverage ahead of time (and the little coverage they did provide was derisive at best). but how out of touch is the Community Organizer in Chief, really?
    This much we know:
    – He was unaware that he was attending a church (for 20 years) with a racist pastor who hates America.

    – He was unaware that he was family friends with, and started his political career in the living room of a domestic terrorist.

    – He was unaware that he had invested in two speculative companies backed by some of his top donors right after taking office in 2005.

    – He was unaware that his own aunt was living in the US illegally.

    – He was unaware that his own brother lives on pennies a day in a hut in Kenya.

    – He was unaware of the AIG bonuses that he and his administration approved and signed into a bill.

    – He was unaware that the man he nominated to be his Secretary of Commerce was under investigation in a bribery scandal.

    – He was unaware that the man he nominated to be his Secretary of Health and Human Services was a tax cheat.

    – He was unaware that the man he nominated to be his Secretary of the Treasury was a tax cheat.

    – He was unaware that the man he nominated to be the U.S. Trade Representative was a tax cheat.

    – He was unaware that the woman he nominated to be his Chief Performance Officer was a tax cheat.

    – He was unaware that the man he nominated to be #2 at the Environmental Protection Agency was under investigation
    for mismanaging $25 million in EPA grants.

    – And Congressman Joe Wilson R-SC ‘shouted you lie’ about his health care bill ….may be Barack was unaware

    President Jimmy Carter
    – And Jimmy Carter could be the ‘first’ US President to be locked-up in a psych ward

    And now you know Jimmy NEVER speaks at a Democrat Convenience. Even the Democrats don’t want him

    PLEASE,,, there are people in comas that are more aware of world affairs than this guy.

  • Bill Hedges

    Ouch Ken..My little mistake got very small in comparison to Prez…

    But you will dispute each point and make me the fool right ???

    Or will you smoke crack or make non-sense jokes because you can’t refute and wish to be the fool ??? Humm, I wonder which ??? Or will you go back to hiding in your fall-out shelter ???

  • Bill Hedges

    Ken

    Government keep hoping half and whole dollar coins will catch on but doesn’t. Maybe they are tired of their paper covered in dope. Government should add something that when dope is brought to paper surface it becomes toxic. And keep it a secret. Will lower the welfare lines and undesirables.

    ‘In God we trust’ is on side. Appropriate for these times. We will put it back where it belongs.

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/dollarcoin.asp

  • JD

    Nate – “Bottom line, there was more than 100,000 people and less than 2 million people. I’m betting around 1 million as a reasonable estimate and I can defend that as shown above.”

    “The protest began in the blue area and filled Constitution Avenue entirely. From that point, protesters were dumped into the read area in front of the Capitol Building until that was filled. At which point, the remaining began filling the National Mall in the green area. Each portion is clickable with some description.”

    My personal opinion is that it was somewhere around 150,000 people. I am with Bones and I will repeat what I said before… It is always impressive to see people protest in Washington no matter the number.

    Still, as you pointed out Nate, Here is a video of the people gathering on Penn Ave. and walking down Penn Ave to the Capital.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mir97fJb1hE

    Penn Avenue from 13 street intersection is about 150 ft longer than the Mall and 13th street(per Google Maps). So if the Mall had filled up from the capital to 12th street (roughly the equivalent of Penn and 12th street) than there would be about 900,000 people as per the diagram on the inaugural mall estimates.

    This means that the crowds would be backed up and could march no where on 13th and Penn ave because Penn Ave. would have been backed up with 900 thousand plus people. however, this was not the case. As seen in the video link i just posted the protesters gathered(13th and Penn) and were able to march toward the capital and eventually cleared out the 13th and Penn intersection.

    Again this would not be possible if there were a million people. not to mention how close you were able to get to the capital building after you walk down Penn Ave… See your last picture in your post.

    And,yes, nate… from what I can tell you walked down Penn Avenue not Constitution Ave. I saw the peak of the old post office building in multiple pictures of yours which is on Penn Ave.

    Again, this picture shows what you are saying Nate about people coming down Penn ave and then filling into the front of the capital building and mall area

    http://sayanythingblog.com/images/_Device_Memory_home_user_pictures_IMG00034-20090912-1328.jpg

    You can zoom in and see to the right that people are still filling in but the crowds still haven’t filled into the Mall and 3rd.

    Personally I say 100 to 150 thousand.

  • Bill Hedges

    Give you a little relief from omygod pounding…

    “Trial beginning over New Orleans’ crime cameras”

    September 14th, 2009

    “The trial that opened Monday stems from a lawsuit filed in 2007 by two companies that allege the system they’d developed was misappropriated by people within and with ties to the city’s technology office. Southern Electronics Supply Inc. and Active Solutions LLC also allege a conspiracy with Dell Inc. to sell the system. Dell has disputed this”

    http://www.physorg.com/news172148419.html

    I still remember my impressions of the mayor from hurricane.. Now he is not talking…

  • Bill Hedges

    “ACORN says workers conduct ‘indefensible'”

    “Suspends, plans audit, in wake of videos”

    “ACORN, calling the actions of some of its employees “indefensible,” has suspended advising new clients as part of its service programs and is setting up an independent review to see what happened.”

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/sep/16/acorn-suspends-plans-audit-wake-videos/
    ……….

    Is Acorn going to file charges against brother of big shot for $1,000,000 robbery from Acorn ???

  • Bill Hedges

    Remember Prez said he would sit down and explain health care bill line by line ?? Well he was asked.. No response

    Is it 19 or up to 60 Czars. Some in Congress has asked Prez. But no response.

    Brother email
    ……….
    The Czar list …this will shock YOU

    He selected these people. ….Now you will know Obama thinks

    They all report directly to Obama and not one was approved by congress.0
    In other words, they were all appointed by Obama and circumvented congress.

    What a bunch of liberal anti Americans and they answer to no one, Mr Obama!

    Czars’ high salaries are paid by taxpayers’ money

    Now that we know who they are, why has the media not let us know about them.

    Personally, I don’t think I am going to like or feel well of them but I don’t know why.
    .
    .
    Afghanistan Czar: Richard Holbrooke
    Ultra liberal anti gun former Gov.of New Mexico . Pro Abortion and legal drug use.

    AIDS Czar: Jeffrey Crowley
    Homosexual. A Gay Rights activist. Believes in Gay Marriage and Special Status, including free health care for gays.

    Auto Recovery Czar: Ed Montgomery
    Black radical anti business activist. Affirmative Action and Job Preference for blacks.
    Univ of Maryland Business School Dean teaches US business has caused world poverty.
    ACORN board member. Communist DuBois Club member.

    Border Czar: Alan Bersin
    former failed superintendent of San Diego CA. Ultra Liberal friend of Hilary Clinton.
    Served as Border Czar under Janet Reno – to keep borders open to illegals

    California Water Czar: David J. Hayes SR
    Fellow of radical environmentalist group, “Progress Policy”.
    No training or experience in water management.

    Car Czar: Ron Bloom
    Auto Union worker. Anti business & anti nuclear.
    Has worked hard to force US auto makers out of business.
    Sits on the Board of Chrysler which is now Auto Union owned
    (Obama gave AFL CIO union FREE Chrysler stock). How did this happen?

    Central Region Czar: Dennis Ross
    Believes US policy has caused Mid East wars.
    Obama apologist to the world.
    Anti gun and pro abortion

    Domestic Violence Czar: Lynn Rosenthal
    Director of the National Network to End Domestic Violence.
    Vicious anti male feminist.
    Supported male castration.

    Drug Czar: Gil Kerlikowske
    devoted lobbyist for every restrictive gun law proposal, Former Chief of Police in Liberal Seattle .
    Believes no American should own a firearm. Supports legalization of drugs.

    Economic Czar: Paul Volcker
    Head of Fed Reserve under Jimmy Carter when US economy nearly failed. Obama appointed head of the Economic Recovery Advisory
    Board which engineered the Obama economic disaster to US economy. Member of anti business “Progressive Policy” organization.

    Energy and Environment Czar: Carol Brower
    Political Radical -Former head of EPA — known for anti-business activism. Strong anti-gun ownership.

    Faith-Based Czar: Joshua DuBois
    Political Black activist-Degree in Black Nationalism. Anti gun ownership lobyist.

    Great Lakes Czar: Cameron Davis
    Chicago radical anti business environmentalist.
    Blames George Bush for “Poisoning the water that minorities have to drink.”
    No experience or training in water management. Former ACORN Board member

    Green Jobs Czar: Van Jones – (since resigned).
    Black activist Member of American communist Party and San Francisco Communist Party
    He said Geo Bush caused the 911 attack and wanted Bush investigated by the World Court for war crimes.
    Black activist with strong anti-white views.

    Guantanamo Closure Czar: Daniel Fried
    Rights activist for Foreign Terrorists. Believes America has caused the war on terrorism.

    Health Czar: Nancy-Ann DeParle
    Former head of Medicare / Medicaid.
    Strong Health Care Rationing proponent.
    She is married to a reporter for The New York Times (New York Times ..Does that they you how she thinks).

    Information Czar: Vivek Kundra
    born in New Delhi, India. Controls all public information, including labels and news releases.
    Monitors all private Internet emails.

    International Climate Czar: Todd Stern
    Anti business former White House chief of Staff – Strong supportrer of the Kyoto Accord.
    Pushing hard for Cap and Trade. Blames US business for Global warming.

    Intelligence Czar: Dennis Blair
    Ret Navy. Stopped US guided missile program as “provocative”.
    Chair of ultra liberal “Council on Foreign Relations” which blames American organizations for regional wars.

    Mideast Peace Czar: George Mitchell
    Fmr. Senator from Maine – Left wing radical.
    Has said Israel should be split up into “2 or 3 “ smaller more manageable plots”. Anti-nuclear anti-gun & pro homosexual.

    Pay Czar: Kenneth Feinberg
    Chief of Staff to TED KENNEDY.
    Lawyer who got rich off the 911 victims payoffs.

    Regulatory Czar: Cass Sunstein
    Liberal activist judge – believes free speech needs to be limited for the “common good”.
    Rules against personal freedoms many times – like private gun ownership..

    Science Czar: John Holdren
    Fierce ideological environmentalist, Sierra Club, Anti business activist.
    Claims US business has caused world poverty. No Science training.

    Stimulus Accountability Czar: Earl Devaney
    spent career trying to take guns away from American citizens. Believes in Open Borders to Mexico.
    Author of statement blaming US gun stores for drug war in Mexico.

    Sudan Czar: J. Scott Gration
    Native of Democratic Republic of Congo. Believes US does little to help Third World countries.
    Council of foreign relations, asking for higher US taxes to support United Nations.

    TARP Czar: Herb Allison
    Fannie May CEO responsible for the US recession by using real estate mortgages to back up the US stock market.
    Caused millions of people to lose their life savings.

    Terrorism Czar: John Brennan
    Anti-CIA activist. No training in diplomatic or gov. affairs.
    Believes Open Borders to Mexico and a dialog with terrorists and has suggested Obama disband US military.

    Technology Czar: Aneesh Chopra
    No Technology training.
    Worked for the Advisory Board Company, a health care think tank for hospitals.
    Anti-doctor activist.
    Supports Obama Health care Rationing and salaried doctors working exclusively for the Gov. health care plan.

    Urban Affairs Czar: Adolfo Carrion Jr.
    Puerto Rican. Anti American activist and leftist group member in Latin America.
    Millionaire “slum lord” of the Bronx , NY. Owns many lavish homes and condos which he got from “sweetheart” deals with labor unions.
    Wants higher taxes to pay for minority housing and health care.

    Weapons Czar: Ashton Carter
    Leftist. Wants all private weapons in US destroyed.
    Supports UN ban on firearms ownership in America . No Other
    ……….

    Yes other Presidents had Czars. omygod carries it 1,000 fold in outlangish…

  • Bill Hedges

    September 17, 2009
    Categories: Pelosi

    “Pelosi punts on ACORN funding ban”

    “House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, speaking to reporters during her weekly press conference just now, refused to say if she would support a Senate move to block ACORN from getting contracts from HUD.”

    “Instead she said the House Appropriations Committee would subject the group to “tough scrutiny” following revelations that two ACORN staffers were caught on tape apparently offering tax advice on how to set about a youth prostitution ring. But she portrayed it as a few bad apples discrediting an organization with “hundreds” of honest organizers.”

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/0909/Pelosi_punts_on_ACORN_funding_says_behavior_was_despicable.html

  • Yes Bill it’s been a while. I kind of took the summer off from the site to become politically active. I’m very active with my local Women’s Republican club, tonight our guest speaker is former Governor of VA Jim Gilmore. I currently have taken a position on the board of the Woman’s Republican club which is keeping me busy since this is a big election year here in VA. I’ve been working on Bob McDonnells campaign (republican candidate for governor) which he is huge here in VA and all of our Republican candidates have been pulling big number leads. I also have been attending town halls that deal with this health care debate. I’m sure you’ve seen the “Reston” town hall debate on TV(FOX)were Howard Dean and Moran made fools of themselves. Well Nate and I were there with our signs yelling “kill the bill”. I can tell you from actually being there that it is true what the media has been saying, the unions have been busing Obama supporters in and they are willing participants wither they know that the unions they champion are going bankrupt when it comes to there health care or not. The current bill in congress has set aside 10 billion for the union retirees since the unions have failed to secure and fund the retiree’s health benefits. So where does all that union dues money go? With there professional signs in hand they shout “yes we can”. Yes you can what, ruin the country? It was actually kind of exciting to launch arguments with these liberals. The three that approached us were completely uninformed and unable to debate with facts and numbers. One woman after talking with us admitted that she was coming to hear more on the topic but was handed a sign and told to stand with the union members. Now I will tell you that that is the only town hall I have been to yet that there were a sea of Obama supporters. All the other town halls I have attended this summer were dominated by true opposition to the health care bill.

    JD and Bones, what, are you scared to think that this many people are pissed with leaders in this country? That it is possible that up to 1 million attended? Have you ever demonstrated in DC? Do you realize that when a protest from any cause, this size, the impact it has on this city? In DC the whole city virtually shuts down? Tell me that doesn’t have an impact. People who travelled from all over the country to have their voices heard deserve more respect then what you’re giving them even if you don’t agree. Its sad that you would actually choose to argue over the size of the crowd when your pulling your numbers from liberal sources who’s entire purpose in reporting on the 9/12 march is to denigrate it.

    Next town hall is on October 2nd on the steps of the Nations Capital; we will be assembling and visiting our senate and congress offices.

  • Bill Hedges

    Conservative Gal

    Liberal’s Speaker of the House is expecting violence at these meetings, she said today. Hum, think there is message for unions in her words ???

    I have watched on TV Fox what you said about town hall meetings.

    The number at recent DC rally is unimportant. I say that because these liberals here want to debate that, and not the important issues. They can not defend omygod.

    Across America Acorn is in deep do-do. Congress is acting. Though many say they do not know about tapes. Polls for omygod and health care is low. Since number at rally is easily argued, they go for that.

    I understand and I too am proud of Americans for attending. There are many like me who can not stand for a long time. So I burn liberal’s behinds with my post.

    You must of saw that they took great pride in my not noticing a ‘not’ by bones. With all my post I rejoice with them. Give the Devil his dues. Though very rare and theirs are so many. I accept liberals will always dance around their errors. And leave site when cornered. Point made.

    My opinion is stick with the issues and destroy. Such easy work…Say there were a lot at rally. You will ruin their day. Week. President…

  • Bill Hedges

    “Dems unhappy with proposed tax in health care bill”

    By ERICA WERNER, Associated Press Writer Erica Werner, Associated Press Writer – 12 mins ago

    WASHINGTON – “Unhappy Senate Democrats on Thursday found plenty to complain about in the fine print of the latest health overhaul bill, particularly a tax provision they fear would hit hard at middle-class Americans, from coal miners in West Virginia to firefighters in New York.”

    Ahh…Union…

    “The opposition sprang up a day after Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus, D-Mont., unveiled long-delayed legislation that would transform the nation’s health care system, requiring almost everyone to buy insurance, making insurance companies cover people with pre-existing medical conditions and reining in spiraling health care costs.”

    Why not simple require all to have insurance and insurance must cover pre-conditions ???

    “To pay for the 10-year, $856 billion bill Baucus wants to tax high-value insurance plans, those worth $21,000 for a family and $8,000 for an individual. Baucus says those are “Cadillac plans” enjoyed by a small minority of Americans. Aides said about 10 percent of plans and 8 percent of taxpayers could be affected.”

    Real cost is must higher. Some things do not kick in till after next Presidential election. Could easily double or more…

    “But other Democratic senators fear that the tax would reach deep into middle-class pocketbooks, and labor unions are upset. Two Democrats on the Finance Committee, Sens. John Kerry of Massachusetts and Jay Rockefeller of West Virginia, along with other senators, say they want to limit the tax before signing off on the bill.”

    Expect more for Unions. omygod stoled secured loans and gave to car unions the stock.

    “We need to make it fairer to working people so that working folks don’t get dragged into this at a level where they just don’t have the incomes to support it,” Kerry told reporters after a closed-door committee meeting to discuss the bill. The panel will begin voting on the bill Tuesday”

    I thought savings was paying for this. Didn’t omygod say that ???

    “The 35 percent tax levied on insurance plans is a different approach, though unions and employers contend it will end up being passed along to workers. Conrad acknowledged the criticism but said it was a necessary step.”

    I agree with unions. Of course this will happen.

    “The House bills have no insurance plan excise tax and instead propose raising taxes on the highest-earners. The Senate’s No. 2 Democrat, Dick Durbin of Illinois, said Thursday he thought that was a better way to go.”

    Well, unions will join in you bet. So smart. More automation in the work place. More overseas movement.

    “Also Thursday, the Obama administration announced $25 million in grants for states and health care systems to experiment with alternatives to costly medical malpractice lawsuits, an issue that long has divided Washington. ”

    You might as well save the $25,000,000. obama and Congress are owned by those lawyers…

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090917/ap_on_go_co/us_health_care_taxes

    Allow Nation-wide insuance ccompitition. and get rid of government restriction..

  • Bill Hedges

    “Pelosi worried about angry health care rhetoric”

    By LAURIE KELLMAN, Associated Press Writer Laurie Kellman,

    Associated Press Writer – 22 mins ago

    WASHINGTON – “House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Thursday that the anti-government rhetoric over President Barack Obama’s health care reform effort is troubling because it reminds her of the violent debate over gay rights that roiled San Francisco in the 1970s.”

    “Anyone voicing hateful or violent rhetoric, she told reporters, must take responsibility for the results.”

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090917/ap_on_go_co/us_pelosi_angry_rhetoric

    “anti-government rhetoric over President Barack Obama’s health care reform .”

    Got to love her…

  • Bill Hedges

    “Congressional Favorability Ratings
    57% View Pelosi Unfavorably, But That’s An Improvement”

    Tuesday, September 15, 2009

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/congressional_favorability_ratings

    Nancy, your anti public… You lower than omygod

  • Bill Hedges

    Post #1William H. Cosby, Jr. (Bill Cosby) wroteon September 16, 2009 at 3:27pm

    “I agree with President Carter that racism is playing a role in recent outbursts against President Obama. During President Obama’s speech on the status of health care reform, some members of congress engaged in a public display of disrespect. While one Representative hurled the now infamous “you lie” insult at the President, others made their lack of interest known by exhibiting rude behavior such as deliberately yawning and sending text messages.”

    “Health care reform is the most important domestic issue facing America today. Disease does not discriminate. African American, White, Asian, Latino, Republican, Democrat, no one in America is immune. So it seems obvious that a debate on health care reform should not include views born solely of partisanship or bigotry.”

    http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=103114564929&topic=11539

    Bill Crosby, you need to watch tapes of Bush in Congressional speech. “Boooo’s”. There are still pickets at his house.

    And Bill, he did lie. Am I suppose to agree with you because you are black ???

    Many Democrats are against differnt health bills. Which health bill is approved for those not racist.

    Bill, even you, have a bad day.

  • Bill Hedges

    Someone might tell Bill Crosby there is a history of disrespecting Presidents. Not many was sanctioned. None called racist or bigots to my knowledge. Your argument hold no water… I bet I could find more examples… Bill Crosby, selective memory, not good.

    “Democrats Boo Bush During Speech”

    http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com/2009/09/10/democrats-boo-bush-during-speech/

    “A history of booing”

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/2/3/13134/00145

  • Bill Hedges

    Just for laughts I present the following. So funny after reading my previous comment…

    “Is it a surprise the first president to be openly disrespected was an African American ?”

    “Edited on Thu Sep-10-09 06:18 AM by DemocratSinceBirth”

    “Is it a surprise the first president to be openly disrespected was an African American and the first person to do the disrespecting was from a former slave state?”

    “Joe Wilson should be ashamed of himself and his constituents should be ashamed too but I doubt neither him or them are.”

    “The fact that a person of color holds the highest office in the land sticks in too many people’s craws…

    “Just sad…”

    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389×6509956

    This gut votes ?????

  • Bill Hedges

    Let’s see, anymore…

    “Has any other President been disrespected during a speech like Joe Wilson’s shout out to Obama?”

    “President Bush was booed during the 2004 State of the Union, that at the time was unprecedented and they booed, hissed and yelled “no” during the 2005 SOTU.”

    “Harry Reid, at the time the Senate Minority Whip, a position of leadership called Bush a liar and said he “betrayed the country” and has refused to this day to apologize for the remark. Reid was in Senior leadership, not an obscure back bencher.”

    “Pete Stark (D) CA called President Bush a liar and said he was sending troops to Iraq to get their “heads blown off for his amusement.”

    “Stark apologized for the “heads blown off” comment, but never for calling the President a liar and the vote of censure failed because the Democrats wouldn’t support it.”

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090915191808AAK8opP

    Our first black President was not the first. We now know Bush and Bill Clinton where before Obama. Bet there are more but going to bed.

  • Bill Hedges

    Is fanny and freddy requiring only 0-3% down ??? Are Democrats and Frank creating another crisis in the making?? How about those cars bought with junks.

  • JD

    CG – JD and Bones, what, are you scared to think that this many people are pissed with leaders in this country? That it is possible that up to 1 million attended? Have you ever demonstrated in DC?

    Scared? Why would I be scared and is it possible for a million people to attend?? Of course, but it isn’t right when it isn’t even close to that number and to say that it was.

    I mean 200+ thousand showed up in Germany to hear Obama speak and it looks like a million but it wasn’t. If the media would have tried to say it was that much than i would call bull on that too. Don’t make this into a partisan deal… 150,000 people can look like a million but at the end of the day it is 150,000. Just trying to keep things honest.

    Still you are right, I don’t really care. Cheers for protesting.

    CG – Its sad that you would actually choose to argue over the size of the crowd when your pulling your numbers from liberal sources who’s entire purpose in reporting on the 9/12 march is to denigrate it.

    I don’t argue… you are the ones that are upset. If you look I posted up my thoughts based on what Nate had posted and videopicture evidence from other protesters on the web. Liberal sources say 75,000 tops. I am saying 150,000 peeps(which is a lot) but way shy of a million.

    If it doesn’t matter on the number than why are you so upset that it wasn’t a million?

  • Bill Hedges

    JD

    Like I said, number game liberals will discuss.

    Issues, oh no.

  • Bill Hedges

    Low ball the numbers, low ball the polls, low ball the town meetings, low ball Congress reaction, low ball Acorn and investigations, low ball war going bad, low ball dollar drop, low bal media questions, low ball everything. omymygod has big problems he created.

  • Bill Hedges

    Friday, September 18, 2009
    “Does He Lie?”
    by Charles Krauthammer

    “You lie? No. Barack Obama doesn’t lie. He’s too subtle for that. He … well, you judge.”

    “Herewith three examples ”

    1) “I will not sign (a plan),” he solemnly pledged, “if it adds one dime to the deficit, now or in the future. Period.”

    “Wonderful. The president seems serious, veto-ready, determined to hold the line. Until, notes Harvard economist Greg Mankiw, you get to Obama’s very next sentence: “And to prove that I’m serious, there will be a provision in this plan that requires us to come forward with more spending cuts if the savings we promised don’t materialize.”

    “2) And then there’s the famous contretemps about health insurance for illegal immigrants. Obama said they would not be insured. Well, all four committee-passed bills in Congress allow illegal immigrants to take part in the proposed Health Insurance Exchange.”

    “But more importantly, the problem is that laws are not self-enforcing. If they were, we’d have no illegal immigrants because, as I understand it, it’s illegal to enter the United States illegally. We have laws against burglary, too. But we also provide for cops and jails on the assumption that most burglars don’t voluntarily turn themselves in.”

    “(3) Obama said he would largely solve the insoluble cost problem of Obamacare by eliminating “hundreds of billions of dollars in waste and fraud” from Medicare.”

    “That’s not a lie. That’s not even deception. That’s just an insult to our intelligence. Waste, fraud and abuse — Meg Greenfield once called this phrase “the dread big three” — as the all-purpose piggy bank for budget savings has been a joke since Jimmy Carter first used it in 1977.”

    “Moreover, if half a trillion is waiting to be squeezed painlessly out of Medicare, why wait for health care reform? If, as Obama repeatedly insists, Medicare overspending is breaking the budget, why hasn’t he gotten started on the painless billions in “waste and fraud” savings?”

    “Obama doesn’t lie. He implies, he misdirects, he misleads — so fluidly and incessantly that he risks transmuting eloquence into mere slickness.”

    http://townhall.com/columnists/CharlesKrauthammer/2009/09/18/does_he_lie?page=2

    Like JD, Ken, and bones, omygod doesn’t make mistake. Must have been misunderstood, misquoted, etc.. Slick like Willie.

  • Bill Hedges

    “Opposition to Health Care Plan Hits New High of 56%”

    Friday, September 18, 2009

    “Fifty-six percent (56%) of voters nationwide now oppose the health care reform proposed by President Obama and congressional Democrats. That’s the highest level of opposition yet measured and includes 44% who are Strongly Opposed.”

    “Just 43% now favor the proposal, including 24% who Strongly Favor it.”

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/september_2009/health_care_reform

    KEEP DAILY COMPAIGNING OMYGOD. YOU’RE HELPING OUR CAUSE..

  • Bill Hedges

    “Ex-CIA Chiefs Decry Holder Interrogator Probe in Letter to Obama”

    “Seven former directors of the Central Intelligence Agency on Friday urged President Obama to reverse Attorney General Eric Holder’s decision to hold a criminal investigation of CIA interrogators who used enhanced techniques on detainees”

    FOXNews.com

    Friday, September 18, 2009

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/18/ex-cia-chiefs-decry-holder-interrogator-probe-letter-obama/

  • Bill Hedges

    “FRC Action Announces Presidential Values Voter Straw Poll”

    Tue Sep 8, 6:20 pm ET

    WASHINGTON, Sept. 8 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ — “Next week, one of the first major presidential straw poll events of the 2012 election cycle will be held at FRC Action’s fourth annual Values Voter Summit. The ballot will feature ten possible presidential candidates, several of whom will be speaking at the Summit, who have also exhibited leadership on key issues – Newt Gingrich, Mike Huckabee, Bobby Jindal, Sarah Palin, Ron Paul, Tim Pawlenty, Mike Pence, Rick Perry, Mitt Romney, and Rick Santorum.”

    “The line-up of speakers at the Summit includes: Governors Rick Perry and Tim Pawlenty, former Governors Mitt Romney and Mike Huckabee, Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), Reps. John Boehner (R-Ohio), Eric Cantor (R-Va.), Mike Pence (R-Ind.), Chris Smith (R-N.J.), Tom Price (R-Ga.), and Roy Blunt (R-Mo.), Bill O’Reilly, Bill Bennett, actor Stephen Baldwin, best-selling author Joel Rosenberg, Phyllis Schlafly, Ken Blackwell, Star Parker, Lila Rose, and many more.”

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnw/20090908/pl_usnw/frc_action_announces_presidential_values_voter_straw_poll

  • Bill Hedges

    Denver terrorist admits…

  • Bill Hedges

    “Appeals court overturns campaign finance rules”

    By NEDRA PICKLER, Associated Press Writer Nedra Pickler, Associated Press Writer – 1 hr 41 mins ago

    WASHINGTON – “Independent advocacy groups will be able to spend more money to try to influence federal elections under a decision Friday from a federal appeals court that overturned rules limiting nonprofits’ campaign spending.”

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090918/ap_on_go_ot/us_campaign_finance

  • Bill Hedges

    NAMES OF 75 THAT SHOULD IMMEDIATELY BE BOOTED OUT OF OFFICE

    All 75 are democrats and 12 are from California (my home state). Here is a list of the Californians on the list:

    Xavier Becerra, D-Calif.
    Bob Filner, D-Calif.
    Mike Honda, D-Calif
    Barbara Lee, D-Calif.
    Lucille Roybal-Allard, D-Calif.
    Linda Sánchez, D-Calif.
    Brad Sherman, D-Calif.
    Pete Stark, D-Calif.
    Maxine Waters, D-Calif.
    Diane Watson, D-Calif.
    Henry Waxman, D-Calif.
    Lynn Woolsey, D-Calif.

    To: TheFreedomPoster
    I don’t want to post the entire member list of the House Progressive Caucus, but it basically matches the list of those who support ACORN.
    http://cpc.grijalva.house.gov/index.cfm?ContentID=166&ParentID=0&SectionID=4&SectionTree=4&lnk=b&ItemID=164

    To: TheFreedomPoster
    Tammy Baldwin, D-Wisc.
    Xavier Becerra, D-Calif.
    Robert Brady D-Pa.
    Corrine Brown, D-Fla.
    G.K. Butterfield, D-N.C.
    Mike Capuano, D-Mass.
    Andre Carson, D-Ind.
    Kathy Castor, D-Fla.
    Emanuel Cleaver, D-Mo.
    James Clyburn, D-S.C.
    Joseph Crowley, D-N.Y.
    Elijah Cummings, D-Md.
    Danny Davis, D-Ill.
    Diane DeGette, D-Colo.
    Bill Delahunt, D-Mass.
    Mike Doyle, D-Pa.
    Donna Edwards, D-Md.
    Keith Ellison, D-Minn.
    Eliot Engel, D-N.Y.
    Chaka Fattah, D-Pa.
    Bob Filner, D-Calif.
    Marcia Fudge, D-Ohio
    Al Green, D-Tex.
    Raul Grijalva, D-Ariz.
    Maurice Hinchey, D-N.Y.
    Mazie Hirono, D-Hawaii
    Rush Holt, D-N.J.
    Mike Honda, D-Calif.Jesse Jackson, Jr. D-Ill.
    Sheila Jackson-Lee, D-Tex.
    Eddie Bernice Johnson, D-Tex.
    Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick, D-Mich.
    Dennis Kucinich, D-Ohio
    Rick Larsen, D-Wash.
    Barbara Lee, D-Calif.
    John Lewis, D-Ga.
    Stephen Lynch, D-Mass.
    Markey, D-Mass.
    Betty McCollum, D-Minn.
    McDermott, D-Wash.
    McGovern, D-Mass.
    Gregory Meeks, D-N.Y.
    Alan Mollohan, D-W.Va.
    Gwen Moore, D-Wisc.
    Jim Moran, D-Va.
    Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y.
    Richard Neal, D-Mass.
    John Olver, D-Mass.
    Frank Pallone, D-N.J.
    Bill Pascrell, D-N.J.
    Donald Payne, D-N.J.
    Jared Polis, D-Colo.
    David Price, D-N.C.
    Nick Rahall, D-W.Va.
    Charlie Rangel, D-N.Y.
    Lucille Roybal-Allard, D-Calif.
    Bobby Rush, D-Ill.Linda Sánchez, D-Calif.Jan Schakowsky, D-Ill.
    David Scott D-Ga.
    Bobby Scott, D-Va.
    Jose Serrano, D-N.Y.
    Brad Sherman, D-Calif.
    Albio Sires, D-N.J.
    Louise Slaughter, D-N.Y.
    Pete Stark, D-Calif.
    Bennie Thompson, D-Miss.
    Edolphus Towns, D-N.Y.
    Niki Tsongas, D-Mass.
    Nydia Velázquez, D-N.Y.
    Maxine Waters, D-Calif.
    Diane Watson, D-Calif.
    Henry Waxman, D-Calif.
    Robert Wexler, D-Fla.
    Lynn Woolsey, D-Calif.

    http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2343182/posts

    ___ALL DEMOCRATS___

    TAKE A WILD GUESS WHAT THEY WANTED TO CONTINUE DOING

  • Bill Hedges

    SEIU ????

  • Bill Hedges

    “SEIU head: Anti-American teabagging extremists need to elevate their discourse; Update: DNC promises “rain of hellfire”

    September 18, 2009 by Allahpundit

    http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/18/seiu-chief-you-anti-american-teabagging-extremists-need-to-elevate-your-discourse/

  • Bill Hedges

    “Kerpen and Beck on Weatherman Jeff Jones, Apollo, and the MDS”

    http://www.americansforprosperity.org/082509-kerpen-and-beck-weatherman-jeff-jones-apollo-and-mds

  • Bill Hedges

    Oh, thanks for the higher fruits and vegs prices omygod

  • Christopher Schwinger

    I’m quite excited about the Tea Party movement 🙂 !

  • Bill Hedges

    Is such a joy to watch Beck. No wonder Liberals and Obama hate him. Saw this there of course. Land of TRUTH. Video really puts down white carrying assault weapons. Racism. OH my God. They show close-up of rifle.

    Sadly, Fox news was there. They showed full view. MAN WAS BLACK. YEAH, HONEST MISTAKE. HA-HA-HA ??? Appropriate laught.

    You got to listen to these news people go on and on…

    “Race bait: MSNBC lies, edits out black gun owner, says ‘white people with guns’ threaten Obama”

    http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-19823-Progressive-Examiner~y2009m8d20-MSNBC-lies-edits-out-black-gun-owner-says-white-people-showing-up-with-guns-threaten-Obama

    No wonder our Liberals are not commeting… So much to hang their head down for.

  • Bill Hedges

    Saturday, September 19, 2009
    “Huckabee is tops in conservatives’ straw vote”

    http://townhall.com/news/politics-elections/2009/09/19/huckabee_is_tops_in_conservatives_straw_vote

  • Bill Hedges

    Email from my Brother…

    “TODAY’S NEWS”

    “BBC is a government owned radio station that broadcast to majority of the countries on Earth.”

    “Died US soldiers”

    “When G. Bush was President, the news media photographed caskets of died US soldiers returning to the United States.”
    .
    “Since Mr Obama has been President, have you seen photographs of caskets returning to the US from Iraq or Afghanistan??”

    “Have you seen funeral ceremonies and their family like seen when Bush was in office????”

    “Have you seen Mr Obama speak about his war in Afghanistan on television ..like Bush often did??”

    “Have you seen Mr Obama visit hospitals and visited our soldiers?”

    “Have you seen Mr Obama visit families who have loss their son in the war …like Bush often did??”

    “President Bush would pray with the families and with soldiers……”

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    ” song some radio stations are banning”

    “The song you are about to listen to is from a Las Vegas Diamond Rio concert. They received an immediate, resounding standing ovation, and continue to do so every time they perform it! Sadly, major radio stations wouldn’t play it because it was considered “politically incorrect.” Consequently, the song was never released to the public. So, America, see what you think.. If this offering speaks to your heart and you feel you want to share it with friends and loved ones, please do”

    http://theconservativenation.com/2009/04/19/a-song-some-radio-stations-are-banning/

  • Bill Hedges

    “Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., said Obama has ignored grave concerns over his plan and his media blitz won’t change that.”

    “The president is selling something that people, quite frankly, are not buying,” Graham told NBC’s “Meet the Press.”

    “He’s been on everything but the Food Channel,” he added”

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090920/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_health_care_overhaul

  • Bill Hedges

    Obama said:

    “Frankly, it’s not really something I’ve followed closely,” Obama said. “I didn’t even know that ACORN was getting a whole lot of federal money.”

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090920/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_acorn

    And I am a racist. This guy name from now on is ‘LIAR’

  • Bill Hedges

    “The Valley Hope Forgot: California Farmers at Obama’s Mercy”

    Friday, September 18, 2009

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,552081,00.html

  • Bill Hedges

    One of ‘Liar’ men today said increase charged to insurance companies is not a tax to buyer. Well companies pass on cost.

    So ‘LIAR’, get real. Polls prove you not getting away with what ‘is’, ‘is.’. Call it any name you wish…

  • Bill Hedges

    Well ‘Liar’, troubles in your war.

    Kind of makes you think George picked the ‘right’ war doesn’t it.

    Did you pick your ‘Viet Nam’. Russia did.

    What did you say about pulling out all the stops on winning this war??? What was that quote ??? You know Ken ??? What Conservative doesn’t remember that last helicopter out of viet Nam. Could that happen again. ??? It could !!!

    How about more troupes and money ???

    Maybe if our people were not afraid, they could gather information on weapons shipment and stuff coming in from Iran. Worked for G.W. Bush !!! Oh yeah, army manual is enough.

    Lots of new stuff coming out ex-Vice President was right about gaining infotmation.

    I hear you been crying for 3 weeks and still no answer about what to do in viet Nam..

    I remember George Bush, ‘Liar’, you’re no George Bush…

    So many new friends with obama.
    ……….

    Some great quotes coming out from Bush. I’ll get and share. Count on it.
    ……….

    Acorn said they would announce independent auditor today..

    Surprise, so far, they have not. Days not over..

    ‘Liar‘ dismissed Acorn as ….
    What was that quote ???

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    Here is a great fact__

    If you get inside information on a company You can go to jail and be find. Like Martha Stweart.

    If you get inside political information like a congress person or lobbyist, no jail time or fine.

    Now you know way they spend $ millions to get elected…

  • Bill Hedges

    Congress is investigating $ billions in bonuses to Bank of America emplyees.

    More, $ 8.3 billions, than that was going to be given to Acorn. Plus add housing, voter fraude, etc…

  • Bill Hedges

    “Chris Wallace: Obama Administration Biggest Bunch of Crybabies”

    By Noel Sheppard

    September 19, 2009 – 14:29 ET

    “These guys [the Obama administration], everything is personal…They are the biggest bunch of crybabies I have dealt with in my 30 years in Washington.”

    “So amazingly said Fox News’s Chris Wallace Friday evening”

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/09/19/chris-wallace-obama-administration-biggest-bunch-crybabies

  • Bill Hedges

    “State of ACORN Investigations”

    Posted by Editor on September 15, 2009

    “ACORN workers in at least nine states have been charged with various crimes related to voter fraud.”

    “At least 50 people have been arrested in connection with ACORN-related voter fraud. Plus four arrest warrants outstanding in Florida.”

    “At least 30 of these cases ended with guilty pleas.”

    http://www.the912project.com/2009/09/15/state-of-acorn-investigations/

  • Bill Hedges

    “Justice Department Inspector General Launches Internal ACORN Probe”

    FOXNews.com

    Monday, September 21, 2009

    “The Justice Department’s inspector general has agreed to investigate whether ACORN has applied for or received any DOJ grant money, in the wake of bipartisan criticism of the community activist group’s operation.”

    “And seven other inspectors general are being asked by two congressional members to take a look at their funding mechanisms.”

    “Rep. Lamar Smith, R-Texas, ranking Republican on the Judiciary Committee, issued a statement Monday praising the Justice Department inspector general’s decision to look into whether ACORN sought or received any grant money or whether the department conducted any reviews of ACORN’s use of such money.”

    “The inspector general agreed to probe the matter at Smith’s request.”

    “As the primary federal law enforcement agency, the Justice Department has a responsibility to ensure that no organization receiving federal funds ignores our nation’s laws,” he said. “I am pleased that Inspector General (Glenn) Fine has agreed to investigate whether the Justice Department provided federal funds to ACORN through its grant program.”

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/21/justice-department-inspector-general-launches-internal-acorn-probe/

  • Bill Hedges

    I heard a interesting conspiracy I thought I would irritate the liberals with. Well they call themselves Independents. I would to I guess if I was them. Obama before election denied so much too. They had their day Bush bashing. Especial after Al the crook lost (he got rich selling global not warming).

    Now, Sam Walton must of turned over in his grave. He was a firm believer in buying American. Was proudly announced in their advertisement. Small companies was given specifications by Walmart. Giving jobs to Americans not China. That concept died with Sam.

    Walmart has gone from worse to best by some in health care for employees. They back omygod’s health care plan. On surface sounds very committable.

    What do sane people know about required health care under this plan. Added expense to small businesses. Therefore, either raise prices, cut employees, or close company.

    Walmart if very large. They have pharmacies that cut their cost for that items. As Republicans in Congress are now recommended, Companies can join together and cut health cost. Walmart does that by sheer size.

    What this bill will do is help Mom and Pop store killer continue.

  • Bill Hedges

    I don’t hear much anymore how smart ‘Liar’ is. Maybe smartness is not in his pay grade. We know he is firm believer in following union rules.

    A highly paid union bird after bankrupting car companies and getting free stock; whispered in His ear that China was subsidizing cheap tire imports into America.

    Thus creating atmosphere for trade war between America and China. This is not the first time. Stimulus package I believe it was, wanted products bought to be American. Heck fire, I know you can’t do that. But not brainy University professor.

    Here is the kicker, these cheap tires aren’t going to be made here. I understand high union wages will not allow. We’ll have to pay more for tires. Now consider making enemies of Country loaning us $ trillions. Then factor in trade war during high unemployment. Not very smart.

    Added all up. We have a dump-dump in office. Heck fire, Biden might do a better job. Biden did warn us Obama was not ready to be President.

    Does that make Joe Biden a racist ??? I’ll ask Jimmy Carter and Bill Crosby…

  • Bill Hedges

    “Glenn Beck vs. Rush Limbaugh”

    By MICHAEL CALDERONE | 9/17/09

    “GOP media strategist Mark McKinnon thinks there are two people in the world who fear Glenn Beck — even if “neither will admit it.”

    “The first is Barack Obama.”

    “The second is Rush Limbaugh.”

    “Beck is on a huge roll. Over the last month, the right-wing Fox News talker has claimed the scalp of the president’s green jobs czar; motivated thousands of conservatives to turn out for town hall meetings and a Sept. 12 march on Washington; pummeled Democrats over ACORN and Obama’s czars; and landed himself a spot on the cover of Time magazine.”

    “He reaches a much bigger radio audience, with somewhere between 15 and 30 million listeners on more than 600 stations around the country. He’s ranked No. 1 on the “Heavy Hundred” list put out by the industry magazine Talkers (Beck is fifth); he tops Mediaite’s power grid of radio hosts; and this week, The Atlantic installed Limbaugh and New York Times columnist Paul Krugman atop its list of “the most influential commentators in the nation.”

    “Back in April – when Time put Limbaugh on its annual list of the 100 most influential people of the world – Beck was called on to write the tribute. He wrote that Limbaugh was “on another level” and “attracts more listeners with his voice than the rest of us could ever imagine.”

    “That may still be the case, but Beck’s power has grown exponentially since then.”

    “Newsmax president Christopher Ruddy, a conservative journalist who played a role in dredging up scandals during the Clinton years, said that right now, Beck is “the No. 1 populist, conservative voice in the media.”

    “Glenn’s emergence reminds me of Rush’s emergence in the early ’90s,” said conservative radio host Mike Gallagher. “People have asked me, ‘Who’s the next Rush,’ because Rush is the gold standard.”

    “The answer, says Gallagher, “seems to be Glenn.”

    “While Limbaugh once had a television show — produced by Roger Ailes, now Fox News president — he never enjoyed half the success in that medium that Beck has now. Beck’s nightly show on Fox News completely dominates the competition, drawing more than a million viewers more than any other prime-time show on MSNBC or CNN.”

    “And Beck is using the power of his show in ways that Limbaugh never has.”

    “Beck is playing more of a rallying role than Limbaugh has or is,” said Grover Norquist, president of Americans for Tax Reform. “Rush is more broad-brush, longer-range in approach, and Beck’s gotten specific,” Norquist added. “Here’s an appointee. Here’s the czars.”

    “Read more:”

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0909/27282.html#ixzz0RrQ290Wk

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0909/27282.html

    I don’t know who is best is. They have their own styles and agenda.

    It took long time for me to truly appreciate O’Reilly Factor, now I don’t miss the show.

    Glenn Beck is growing on me more each day. He digs and gets the filthy dirt which is plentiful. He is a channel catfish. You see, good eating catfish eats rotten bait. Get the buried crap of Democrats and that’s food for Glenn.

    I watched Rush tv show and did not like back then. I was just developing my conservative tendencies. Since I don’t listen to radio, I hear little from him. I do love his message. He is King.

    My question, which Liberal plays with these big boys. They seem to be big fish in the little pond. Or sitting at the children’s table…

  • Bill Hedges

    What a great video. Hits upon 2 topics for me.

    Obama is wasting American lives with stupidity and stubbornness. Heading towards losing war.

    Second, Bill Clinton, get real.

    Obama was against Bush’s troop increase. We know who was right !!! Bush won the hearts of the people, improved infrastructure, developed their army and police, and took ground and keep.

    With General recommendations, Obama hesitates for political reasons. Obama got his General in there. His thing was hit enemy and go back to base.

    Obama’s General is wanting to go back to old General’s ways with more troops.

    This war is much tougher to win. If we are going to win, we must follow Bush lead in Iraq, and Obama will fight that I believe. You can’t demonize Bush for his actions, then turn around and follow Bush example.

    Bill Clinton attempts to defend Obama on war was ridiculous. Although Bill is a great orator, poor performance here Bill. Your heart and soul wasn’t in it. I remember your off-key remark about Obama.

    Bill goes into the racism again to defend health care plan. This from the man that lost his health care plan. On Letterman show Obama said he has always been black. Well Bill, you have always been white.

    Thus proving black or white President, America does not want their health care plan. And that’s not racism, just not good plans or ideas…

    Let’s do Republican ideas and add two of Obamas. All can reduce cost and quickly. Open State to State open competition of insurance companies with State restrictions lifted where needed, require no pre-condition or cancel for illness, tort reform not Obama reform idea, and drug price reduction negotiated including medicare gap.

    http://www.politico.com/largevideobox.html?id=41455317001

  • Bill Hedges

    Oh, forgot all that waste and fraud.

  • Bill Hedges

    Just to make my point to above comment, I give you__

    “Here’s your ‘demonstration project,’ Mr. President — it’s called Mississippi”

    By: David Freddoso

    09/21/09 9:59 AM EDT

    “Since passing tort reform in 2004, Mississippi has seen the number of medical malpractice claims plummet by 91 percent from its peak. The state’s largest medical liability insurer dropped its premiums by 42 percent, and has offered an additional 20 percent rebate each year since tort reform went into effect.”

    “That is the story that Mississippi’s Republican, governor, Haley Barbour, offered on Friday, speaking at the Heritage Foundation. He also made an observation about President Obama’s decision to offer only token “demonstration projects” on lawsuit abuse rather than address it meaningfully in his health care reform proposal.”

    “It’s mysterious to me that the administration and the leadership of Congress talk about health care reform and the goal of reducing costs, and yet refuse to put tort reform into the legislation,” he said. “I believe $200, $250 billion a year in health care costs is caused by litigation. It may be more than that. But this is the lowest hanging fruit, this ain’t rocket science. If they want a demonstration project, come down to Mississippi, and I’ll show you a demonstration project.” (Last month, Barbour wrote this op-ed for The Examiner on insurance reform.)”

    “Mississippi’s legal situation was particularly bad when he came into office, Barbour said. “When I ran for governor in 2003, for the third consecutive year the U.S. Chamber rated Mississippi the worst state in the country for lawsuit abuse — a judicial hell-hole,” he said. “And the reason they rated us that way is because we were. The state was overrun by out-of-state plaintiffs shopping for generous venues, some of which rarely if ever ruled for defendants.”

    “Mississippi’s reforms were truly sweeping. The new laws:”

    “Changed rules of venue, to prevent abusive court-shopping.
    Got rid of the rule of “joint and several liability” — as Barbour put it, in order to protect the defendant who is only “2 percent negligent” but who has the “deep pockets” that trial lawyers look for when deciding whom to sue.
    Protect innocent landowners and sellers of products. Under the reforms, “if a pharmacist is selling a drug that the FDA has said is appropriate for the purpose it says it’s used for, unless the pharmacist knows it has been tampered with, then that pharmacist is immune,” said Barbour.
    Put caps on punitive damages, with a sliding scale based on the size of the defendant corporation.
    Put caps on non-economic damages, particularly to deal with medical malpractice liability.
    Tort reform made Mississippi liveable for small business and for doctors and hospitals, Barbour said, but it wasn’t easy to pass. He discussed the conditions needed to pass it in a state — chief among which was heavy and involved support from the governor.”

    “You can’t pass real tort reform unless it’s led by the governor,” he said. “The other side is tough. They have enormous resources. And they fear the trial lawyers — that if you beat them on tort reform, they won’t have those resources anymore.” That’s why it is not enough to have a governor who works for it behind the scenes.”

    “In addition to gubernatorial leadership, Barbour said that success in curbing lawsuit abuse requires unity between the business and medical communities. “Do not let the trial lawyers separate the medical community from the general business community,” he said. People are more likely to understand the effects of liability on medicine than on business, he said, and so it is important to have the whole package pass together.”

    “As a third condition for passing reform, Barbour cited the need for small business to lead the effort, even if big business has to pay for it.”

    “The way tort reform wins is when legislators go to church, and their friends at church tell them, this is important, this matters, we’re watching,” he said. “The ones that are not right, they have to understand they are paying a price at home, that it is a serious price. That this is not just another issue. That these are small business people who think someone is going to sue them and take away everything they’ve worked for for the last 50 years.”

    “In the wake of tort reform’s passage, Barbour added, plaintiffs still have the right to sue and recover damages, and trial lawyers can still make a living — just not at the previous, exorbitant level. “It has not been very contentious,” he said. “Most of the trial lawyers — particularly the ones who are really good lawyers, think that it’s fair,” even if “they don’t like it.”

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Heres-your-demonstration-project-Mr-President—-its-called-Mississippi-59990137.html

    So you add up savings in Republican ideas and 2 of Obama’s ideas I mentioned, can’t I say with reasonable assurance that more than a $ trillion could be saved easily.

    Before destroying a World leading health care system, let’s make a few refinements, huh. Not structure another Hawaii, Oregon, or Massachusetts mistake. Or Candian and England mistake.

    We are not getting this plan to help. It is a political take-over.

  • Bill Hedges

    By the way, Obama spoke today at Bill Clinton’s Global Initative Meeting. Maybe this is payback for Bill’s video ??

  • Bill Hedges

    Bill Clinton

    “I believe that some of the right-wing extremists which oppose President Obama are also racially prejudiced and would prefer not to have an African-American president,” Clinton told CNN’s Larry King in a wide-ranging interview that aired Monday evening.”

    “But I don’t believe that all the people who oppose him on health care — and all the conservatives — are racists. And I believe if he were white, every single person who opposes him now would be opposing him then.”

    http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/09/21/bill.clinton.larry.king/

  • Bill Hedges

    Bill Clinton sure is narrow in who he claims is rasist on CNN…

  • Bill Hedges

    Just heard an official obamagut say on Fox, voice of freedom, that big shots in media should step down and be replaced by blacks, gays, etc. So their voice can be heard.

    Hum, being qualified and earning the open position is not good enough. Ok, step down obama, I demand your job. I’m disabled. No disabled person held your job and I want our position to be heard.

  • Bill Hedges

    Recently

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    omygod has proclaimed himself solving all America’S WRONGS TO THE WORLD, at the U.N.. What a guy !!!

    Made Iran president proud. Maybe Americans should behave like Iranian citizens ??

    omygod now is solving world problems.

    Is there a pattern to omygod’s madness ??? Let’s see, Congress starts reading bills. What happens.. Failed cap and tax, so go to health plan. Failng heath plan ?? Go smash USA at U.N. and save World. They better agree with him. Are they will be racist too !!!

    I am afraid omygod is going to huff and puff and hold his breathe. Blowing himself up.
    ……….

    Humana under investigation for telling customers about health bill. Shame on you Humana.

  • Bill Hedges

    What did omylie say about transparency???

    Well Congress did not hear him evidently say that. They voted not to put entire bill on internet 72 hours before it is voted on.

    Instead it will be a summary.

    What are the people doing in Iran ???

  • Bill Hedges

    Sarah gave her first overseas speech tonight, earning in the neighborhood of six figures in pay. Last year Bill Clinton spoke. Was said she out did others doing this, beating Bill.

    Thats my Sarah…

  • Bill Hedges

    omylivinginfantascyworld obama said:

    “an almost reflexive anti-Americanism” that swept the globe under the administration of his predecessor, George W. Bush, is not “an excuse for collective inaction.”

    “Nothing is easier than blaming others for our troubles and absolving ourselves of responsibility for our choices and our actions,” he said.

    Gee whiz gullibleprez, don’t you know you will be quoted ???
    Days of completely kool ade drinking news media is far behind you. And getting worse for you daily !!!

    “U.S. presidents — Bush included — have come to the United Nations year after year with a wish list of action items and preaching the gospel of working together. The U.S. is rich and powerful, but cannot solve problems without help, they say, whether Democrat or Republican.”

    Your Bush bashing doesn’t work guy…You are not a big G but little g god.

    So Obama’s message was not new. Why are you acting like it begain with Bush ??? Forget what Bill Ayers taught you…

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090924/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama

  • Path

    Bill, I’m glad you haven’t changed and you still spend all your time here talking to yourself. I don’t have to worry about your self-centered, egotistical and incoherent rants making it too far out into the public, polluting intelligent discussion. This is a nice self contained cage for you.

  • Bill Hedges

    As Chavez closes down public air ways at home he praises obama at united nations. What friends our president makes.

    What is even more striking is friends we may lose.

  • Bill Hedges

    path

    Your heart felt love for ‘loser’ is fading in the sunset for majority of America.

    But you keep your ignotance, it’s becoming on you.

  • Bill Hedges

    Singing ‘Jesus loves the little children’ can not be song in school. Replace Jesus with Obama and that’s ok ???

    This has been done. Loonies like path agee with this, majority don’t.

  • Bill Hedges

    Thursday, September 24, 2009

    “Obama’s Time Warp: The U.S. Is Still the Bad Guy”

    by Michael Barone

    http://townhall.com/columnists/MichaelBarone/2009/09/24/obamas_time_warp_the_us_is_still_the_bad_guy

  • Bill Hedges
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  • Path,

    LoL

  • Bill Hedges

    Poor ken, Still can’t defend omygod. It is a difficult tast I must admit. Dismiss messenger through personal insult no matter how absurd.

    If I held a belief I could not defend, I would re-evaluate my position. But then, that is logical. Too many drugs…

    What is great about the human nature, you are aware you fool no one ken. A lol answer ??? Gee that’s something.

    EMAIL FROM MY BROTHER…

    On Tuesday, the Senate health committee voted 12-11 in favor of a two-page amendment courtesy of Republican Tom Coburn that would require all Members and their staffs to enroll in any new government-run health plan.

    Yet all Democrats — with the exceptions of acting chairman Chris Dodd, and Barbara Mikulski via proxy — voted nay.

    It took me less than a minute to sign up to require our congressmen and senators to drink at the same trough! Three cheers for Congressman John Fleming of Louisiana!
    Congressman Fleming (Louisiana physician) has proposed an amendment that would require congressmen and senators to take the same healthcare plan they force on us (under proposed legislation they are curiously exempt).

    Congressman Fleming is encouraging people to go on his Website and sign his petition (very simple – just first, last and email). I have immediately done just that at: http://fleming.house.gov/index.html

    Please urge as many people as you can to do the same!
    If Congress forces this on the American people, the Congressmen should have to accept the same level of health care for themselves and their families. My apologies if you’ve already received this, but it’s too important to let congress just ram this legislation thru – this is the only way they will slow down and think about this!

    PS – it may take a couple of tries to sign onto the petition as the website has been overloaded – just hit the “back” arrow and resubmit until it goes thru.
    ……….

    The willingness with which our young people are likely to serve in any war,
    no matter how justified, shall be directly proportional to how they perceive veterans of early wars were treated and appreciated by our nation.”

    – George Washington –

  • Bill,

    You’re funny. I have absolutely no reason to defend anyone but myself, and not to you, but the only one who has the right to judge me. What is also obvious about many humans is their susceptibility to lose focus on what life is all about.

    The willingness with which our young people are likely to serve in any war,
    no matter how justified, shall be directly proportional to how they perceive veterans of early wars were treated and appreciated by our nation.”

    – George Washington –

    Yes I am sure that all the kids who just turned 18 years old who came out of the gutter and are wooes by recruiters about all the money and gifts they will receive, not to mention, college tuition that gets them to join. I’m sure they all join solely because the veterans of past wars were treated so fabulously. You’re still blind Bill, I think they need to up your dosage.

    again “LoL”

    P.S. The only thing I will defend are my own personal beliefs and faith. I have no reason whatsoever to defend Barack Obama. No more do you have to defend any other politician to me. Both defenses would be pointless and worth nothing to either of us, as I wish you would have realized long ago. Continue your hobby here and I will continue to LoL at it, because I honestly find it funny, why else would I check in on you now and then? I’m sure you’ll give me a delusional answer, and I can’t wait to laugh at it.

  • Bill Hedges

    Always with the personal insults. You can not defend your loonynutprez and friend of dictators.

    Of course you have stopped defending him because you don’t have to. Boy, you have wasted alot of time in the past defending him. Now when you can’t, so you say, I don’t have to.

    Tell me how you are against the health care bill. I know you did not lie.

    So rant on MCBeth…Rant on.. You have fooled me again ???

    You are unaware of the purpose of this site ? Once more I will tell. To discuss politics. If you are not here for that but to insult me, you should be kicked off. I believe that is the rule here…

  • Bill Hedges

    Someday kenny you may understand the words of our first President. You proved now you don’t.

    To praraphase..

    Is better to keep you mouth shut and let other think you are dump, than open it and prove they are right.

  • Bill Hedges
  • LoL

    I dont need to talk about the shitty health care bill anymore. It was bad in the beginning and its even worse now. What is there to discuss. I mean we can sit and talk about a rotten orange all day but eventually we will run out of things to say about it.

    As far as newer subjects I have not watch the news, read any newspapers, or browsed any political websites in the past two months. So of course, how can I defend what have not heard of?

    I never defended Obama, I gave my opinion on topics. If they were in the same favor with Obama then perhaps that is how your warped imagination tied me to Obama. I suppose if I said there are weapons of mass destruction in Iraq then I’d have to start defending George Bush.

    Kick me from this site, of f***ing whoa is me man. Don’t destroy my life now. I don’t typically insult people, but you BEG for it like a bum begging for change to buy beer man. You’re way of thinking is warped to the EXTREME. You’re very troubled Bill. That’s the truth. It’s hard for you to see because it’s you we’re discussing, but ask anyone looking from the outside in…..

    Keep up the good work. You’re better than stand up comedy man.

  • Bill Hedges

    Comes to a political discussion site empty handed and insults.

    A personal vendetta…

    “but you BEG for”….WOW…