Obama shifting burden to “the backs of our children”

President Obama has now requested that the Senate raise the debt cap beyond $12 trillion, something he specifically voted against doing in 2006 as he chided President Bush for exploding deficits. The issue drips with irony so lets just dive in. As with everything Obama tries to do, this is an “emergency” so we can’t ask questions about it, we have to just pass it and only examine it’s failure at a later time.

The Hill reports:

The Senate must move legislation to raise the federal debt limit beyond $12.1 trillion by mid-October, a move viewed as necessary despite protests about the record levels of red ink.

The move will highlight the nation’s record debt, which has been central to Republican attacks against Democratic congressional leaders and President Barack Obama. The year’s deficit is expected to hit a record $1.6 trillion.

Democrats in control of Congress, including then-Sen. Obama (Ill.), blasted President George W. Bush for failing to contain spending when he oversaw increased deficits and raised the debt ceiling.

“Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren,” Obama said in a 2006 floor speech that preceded a Senate vote to extend the debt limit. “America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.”

Obama later joined his Democratic colleagues in voting en bloc against raising the debt increase.

Now Obama is asking Congress to raise the debt ceiling, something lawmakers are almost certain to do despite misgivings about the federal debt. The ceiling already has been hiked three times in the past two years, and the House took action earlier this year to raise the ceiling to $13 trillion.

Once again, I’ll ask Democrats whether they actually cared about the national debt, which was at fractional levels of the current debt, or they were simply attacking Bush out of opportunism. We know it’s the latter since liberals are sitting silent while President Obama shifts “the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren.”

So back when President Bush was bloating our deficit, he was “shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren,” however, when President Obama does it, we’re supposed to call it “stimulus” and “recovery,” though it has done neither.

Unfortunately the day will come when America must answer for the obscenity of overspending, hopefully it will not come on the backs of our children and grandchildren as President Obama drives the debt astronomically higher every single day. This on the very day President Obama delivered a speech to the very children he is shifting the burden of his economic failure to.

In a related story, China has begun running some numbers through the calculator and they seem pretty disturbed by Obama’s reckless incompetence with regard to economic policy. Yes, that’s correct, the communist Chinese are now more fiscally responsible than President Obama.

  • JD

    Let me start by saying that I agree that “he who barrows, is in sorrow”, however, one has to take a look at the situation as a whole.

    One of the ways to fix the deficit and spending is by controlling the costs and hence the reason for healthcare reform.

    In case, anyone is wondering why it is that 8 of the last 10 trillion dollars came from conservative administrations and we have nothing really to show for it. Is it because we have financed wars and instead of Republicans paying for these wars by raising funding through taxes we have successfully passed those costs onto the future?

    Again, I am not happy with the US debt level, but, I recognize that when you neglect the machine you pay more for it later and hence the saying that a “stitch in time, saves nine”.

    Please, don’t act like anyone’s hands are clean nor is the answer to not solve the problems and let the status que be.

    I believe we are going to see a reduction in the budget deficit as early as next year. I worry that Republicans are putting too many eggs in this basket. If Obama is able to reduce the budget deficit (which is already happening as banks are paying back money early and the treasury returning TARP funds) then conservatives aren’t going to have a leg to stand on.

    Just my thoughts.

  • Bill Hedges

    ” As with everything Obama tries to do, this is an “emergency” so we can’t ask questions about it, we have to just pass it and only examine it’s failure at a later time.”

    HOW TRUE. Add to that the full effect of ‘Cap and destroy’ will not come into effect until after next Presidential election. Obama realizes what he is doing and full kick-in would halt re-election.

    “Democrats in control of Congress, including then-Sen. Obama (Ill.), blasted President George W. Bush for failing to contain spending when he oversaw increased deficits and raised the debt ceiling.”

    Much of Bush debt was concentrated in Iraq war. How often we hear no nukes found in faulting Bush. Bad intelligence was only one aspect of war. Invasion of other Countries was de-stabilizing region and 100,000 of thousands of citizens killed, including by gas, by demented Dictator. Humanitarian reason for war is cast aside by unfeeling liberals in favor of demeaning Bush.

    “Obama later joined his Democratic colleagues in voting en bloc against raising the debt increase.”

    For the tribe that brought chaos to ‘sub-prime’ and ‘Acorn’, this is not astounding. Al Gore bragged no personal profits from saving our planet, which action has been proven bogus.

    Gold is over $1,000 an once and talk of changing Dollar as world standard as obama defecates on our economy with debt.

    “So back when President Bush was bloating our deficit, he was “shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren,” however, when President Obama does it, we’re supposed to call it “stimulus” and “recovery,” though it has done neither.”

    Such a small amount of money has actually been spent. The recovery we have enjoyed is money that was spend under Bush. Historical records say approximately 6-8 months after Market improves, unemployment stars dropping.

    However, with omygod’s attack on business with cap and destroy, tax increases, and health care plan, recovery will be massacred.

    May our true God help us…
    ……….

    Tonight, again, ohiamintrouble speaks on health plan disastrous plan. Maybe no other President has had to give so many major speeches in such a short period of time.

    In past outings HE has been vague on health plan. On this site, with evidence, we proved he was liar on at least some key issues. And the folly of his health plan.

    CNBC said HE needs to give specifics to his plan. Only by careful manipulation can he do so. I expect he won’t even try to inform HIS trickery’s manifesto.

    I plan on watching a movies I have seen many, many times. More entertaining.

  • Bill Hedges

    JD

    “One of the ways to fix the deficit and spending is by controlling the costs and hence the reason for healthcare reform.”

    Historic evidence throws that statement out the window. We only have to look at other Countries that has this type of plan to dismiss this. Cost over-runs leading to rationing. Here in America, we can highlight Masscults, Oregon, and Hawaii.

    We are going to legitimize illegals, paying for their heat transplant, etc.. Plus breaking ou medical system with humongous influx of patients. Gee, that won’t break the bank.

    “In case, anyone is wondering why it is that 8 of the last 10 trillion dollars came from conservative administrations and we have nothing really to show for it. Is it because we have financed wars and instead of Republicans paying for these wars by raising funding through taxes we have successfully passed those costs onto the future.”

    A fantasy statement which can only be made by someone whose reality is skewed towards the ‘twilight zone’. Is beyond comprehension someone would put that in print…Please Nate inform JD of sub-prime and Acorn. He has amnesia. He forgets omygod has added more debt than all President put together.

    Explain to JD that historical models prove raising taxes does not generate more income for government. Prez John F. Kennedy so stated.

    “Again, I am not happy with the US debt level, but, I recognize that when you neglect the machine you pay more for it later and hence the saying that a “stitch in time, saves nine”.”

    I almost let this go. Good, useful shovel ready spending sounds real good. But tennis courts, frog ponds, etc. and other pork barrel spending does not fit in that agenda. One law had well over 9,000 little piglets with big price tags.

    “Please, don’t act like anyone’s hands are clean nor is the answer to not solve the problems and let the status que be.”

    Well I am not here to please. Just because guy in front of you jumped off a edge on mountain, does that mean you will to. Maybe you would. I will not. Just not justification. Just say ‘no’ to that illogical logic.

    Accurately, as far as the economy is doing it is getting better. I recall you saying that to some degree to Babs. You were going to buy stock an become richer.

    There is a finite amount of money. With government gobbling it all up, little is left for public. Card companies are refusing cards and lowering credit amounts. Rates rise as available money become scarce.

    A few adjustments lowered medical cost. We need not bring a 10 ton hammer when a normal hammer will do.

    1. Stop government controlling price of health insurance.
    2. Allow free competition. Especially between States.
    3. Lower malpractice recovery. Need for duplicate and unnecessary test. Adds to drugs as well as research for new drugs.

    Those 3 thing could be passed quickly and drastically reduce health cost.

    “I believe we are going to see a reduction in the budget deficit as early as next year. I worry that Republicans are putting too many eggs in this basket. If Obama is able to reduce the budget deficit (which is already happening as banks are paying back money early and the treasury returning TARP funds) then conservatives aren’t going to have a leg to stand on.”

    For now, Democrats control Congress. Not much sensible minds can do.

    With America’s awakening each election may change this status.

    I don’t look forward to what happened to woman in Oregon occurring throughout United States. A woman with cancer was offered $50 worth of pills to kill herself, instead of treat her cancer.

  • Bill Hedges

    JD

    Kudos for actually writing a comment on issues

  • Bill Hedges

    “If Obama is able to reduce the budget deficit (which is already happening as banks are paying back money early and the treasury returning TARP funds) then conservatives aren’t going to have a leg to stand on.”

    I almost missed this one JD.

    BUSH. Bush. Bush. I gave Bush credit for his loans to save the big financial houses. First you complained of Bush debt in this article, well, what is this ??? Debt. You wish to give obama ALL credit for this ??? Forget it !!!

    Sorry. We, Conservatives, have legs plus $11 trillion in interest and other charges from those loans. Some of that $11 trillion is obamas.

    Did obama expand program too much. Yes. Bad banks should have been allowed to fall. Good cleansing strengthens.

  • Bill Hedges

    Is obama going to insult Doctors tonight. Saying Doctors do operations to just make money. Give outrageous prices for removing limbs. I doubt it. Twice in a role is totally dumb and I don’t think he is totally dumb.

    Will he mess up tonight. Oh yes !!! His program will end up just like England, Canada, Oregon, Mass., Hawaii, etc..

    Obama has trial lawyers in his pocket and will not touch malpractice limitation. And that ends his plan. With, health insurance cost decreases.

    Here in link is better way__

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090909/ap_on_go_co/us_health_care_reaction

  • Bill Hedges

    Well I decided to watch obama’s speech, but he begins with a lie. Said economy was as bad as Great Depression. If you start with a lie, just really hard to believe after that.

    Misinformation- No
    1. kill happened in Oregan
    2. Illegals not covered
    3. Abortion not excluded which by law means it is covered
    4. Take over health insurance by public option
    5. Not one dime to debt…

    Malpractice insurance.. Want to see what will be written

    Obama has not been working with Republicans.

    http://www.healthreform.gov/

  • Bill Hedges

    If you did not like Green mam Van Joesnes You will hate guy that is a coming. Your dog and rats you try to kick out your house needs lawyers…

  • Bill Hedges

    “Lawmakers denounce ‘You lie’ outburst at Obama”

    “LAURIE KELLMAN, Associated Press Writer Laurie Kellman, Associated Press Writer – 2 mins ago
    WASHINGTON – Democrats and Republicans alike are denouncing Rep. Joe Wilson for shouting “You lie” at President Barack Obama during his speech to Congress, an extraordinary breach of decorum for which the South Carolina Republican swiftly apologized.”

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090910/ap_on_go_co/us_health_care_heckling

    Sometimes a man has to be a man and pay for it later. Who will be next…

  • Bill Hedges

    Email from my Brother. Simple folks like us cut through cra.

    .
    Is Obama a Liar ????
    Last night Obama speech to Congress Obama states that illegals do not get health care in the current bill to Senate.
    WW RR OO NN GG. …

    Interrupted Obama’s speech, Congressman Joe Wilson R-SC called Mr Obama “You lie”.
    .

    This morning, on Robin Meade CNN News stated:

    It is a FACT in the current National Health Care Bill in the Senate,
    STATES – Illegals may be required to buy health care.

    In last night Obama speech to Congress, when Congressman Joe Wilson R-SC called Mr Obama “You lie”.
    Afterward the speech, Wilson apologized and the Whitehouse accepted

    * Should Obama apologize that he lied to Congress and to Americans??

    * Why should illegals in the US pay for National Health Care?

    * How much money per month will illegals for National Health Care?

    * It is still Federal Law the illegals in the US are breaking Federal Laws passed by Congress

    * Illegals DO NOT pay income taxes and the American employers who hire them DO NOT PAY FICA.
    .
    .

    Before obama speech last night I said he was not totally dumb. I was wrong.

  • Bill Hedges

    EMAIL FROM MY BROTHER. I NEVER GOT SO MUCH MAIL ABOUT BUSH. I GUESS IT IS TRUE, OBAMA WILL GO DOWN IN HISTORY…

    2010 Elections “C’mon, that will never happen in America .” MOST OF ALL OF THIS HAS ALREADY HAPPENED. What would you say if I gave you 11 reasons why the elections in 2010 will be the most important in the history of the United States?

    1. What if I had told you in October 2008, before the last presidential election, that before Barack Obama’s first 100 days in office, the federal government would be in control of both the mortgage and the banking industries? That 19 of America’s largest banks would be forced to undergo stress tests by the federal government which would determine if they were insufficiently capitalized, so they must be supervised by the government? Would you have said, “C’mon, that will never happen in America.” . .

    2. What if I had told you that within Barack Obama’s first 100 days in office the federal government would be the largest shareholder in the US Big-Three automakers: GM and Chrysler? That the government would kick out the CEO’s of these companies and appoint hand-picked executives with zero experience in the auto industry and that executive compensation would be determined, not by a Board of Directors, but by the government? Would you have said, “C’mon, that will never happen in America!”

    3. What if I had told you that Barack Obama would appoint more than 36 Czars {paid by taxpayers}, without congressional approval, accountable only to him, not to the voters, who would have control over a wide range of US policy decisions. That there would be a Stimulus Accountability Czar, an Urban Czar, a Compensation Czar, an Iran Czar, an Auto Industry Czar, a Cyber Security Czar, an Energy Czar, a Bank Bailout Czar, and more than a dozen other government bureaucrats with unchecked regulatory powers over US domestic and foreign policy. Would you have said, “C’mon, that will never happen in America!” . .

    4. What if I had told you that the federal deficit would be $915 billion in the first six months of the Obama presidency – with a projected annual deficit of $1.75 trillion – triple the $454.8 billion in 2008, for which the previous administration was highly criticized by Obama and his fellow Democrats. That congress would pass Obama’s $3.53 trillion federal budget for fiscal 2010. That the projected deficit over the next 10-years would be greater than $10 trillion (CORRECTION – WE ARE NOW AT $9-Trillion National Debt). Would you have said, “C’mon, that will never happen in America !” . .

    5. What if I had told you that the Obama Justice Department would order FBI agents to read Miranda rights to high-value detainees captured on the battlefield and held at US military detention facilities in Afghanistan. That Obama would order the closing of the Guantanamo detention facility with no plan for the disposition of the 200-plus individuals held there. That several of the suspected terrorists at Guantanamo would be sent to live in freedom in Bermuda at the expense of the US government. That our returning US veterans would be labeled terrorists and put on a watch list. Would you have said, “C’mon, that will never happen in America!” . .

    6. What if I had told you that the federal government would seek powers to seize key companies whose failures could jeopardize the financial system. That a new regulatory agency would be proposed by Obama to control loans, credit cards, mortgage-backed securities, and other financial products offered to the public. Would you have said, “C’mon, that will never happen in America!” . .

    7. What if I had told you that Obama would travel to the Middle East, bow before the Saudi king, and repeatedly apologize for America’s past actions. That he would travel to Latin America where he would warmly greet Venezuela’s Dictator / strongman Hugo Chavez and sit passively in the audience while Nicaraguan Marxist thug Daniel Ortega charged America with terrorist aggression in Central America . Would you have said, “C’mon, that will never happen in America !!” .

    8. Okay, now what if I were to tell you that Obama wants to dismantle conservative talk radio (Rush, Glenn Beck, etc) through the imposition of a new “Fairness Doctrine.” That he wants to curtail the First Amendment rights of those who may disagree with his policies via internet blogs, cable news networks, or advocacy ads. That most major network television and most newspapers will only sing his phrases like state-run media in communist countries? Would you say, “C’mon, that will never happen in America!!” . .

    9. What if I were to tell you that the Obama Justice Department is doing everything it can to limit your Second Amendment rights to keep and bear arms. That the federal government wants to re-instate the so-called assault weapons ban which would prohibit the sale of any type of firearm that doesn’t require the shooter to pull the trigger every time a round is fired. That Obama’s Attorney General wants to eliminate the sale of virtually all handguns and ammunition, which most citizens choose for self-defense. Would you say, “C’mon, that will never happen in America!” . .

    10. What if I were to tell you that the Obama plan is to eliminate states rights guaranteed by the Tenth Amendment and give the federal government sweeping new powers over policies currently under the province of local and state governments and voted on by the people. That Obama plans to control the schools, energy production, the environment, health care, and the wealth of every US citizen. Would you say, “C’mon, that will never happen in America!” . .

    11. What if I were to tell you that the president, the courts, and the federal government have ignored the US Constitution and have seized powers which the founders of our country fought to restrict. (you have all ready seen this ..e.g.

    Un-Constitution Act – this year on the independent health care companies, will dictate to them what they MUST DO * Un-Constitution Act – Obama hiring & firing executives at GM & Chrysler

    * Un-Constitution Act – Obama giving AFI-CIO Union 17% controlled-stock worth millions of stock-shares FREE,

    * Un-Constitution Act – Obama – Democrat Congress gave taxpayer’s money funding ACORN, – ACORN is a corrupt organizations supporting Democrats all across American, etc). That our last presidential election may have been our last truly free election for some time to come.

    I know, I know what you will say. “That will never happen in America!” If we don’t do everything in our power to stop this madness in 2010… May God have mercy on our worthless souls. Pass this on to every freedom loving American you can. Thank you. .
    ……….

    When a Country boy is really hungry he sticks his hand in hole of bank and pulls out a catfish. Or mixes walut hulls and sprinkles in water to bring fish floating to top. Or swims underwater and grabs feet of ducks. He does what it takes to eat.

    What to do to save America. Place hands under his legs when sitting at freedom’s table ???

    Does actions written here stand for liberal’s beliefs ???

    No wonder liberals here are so quiet. They hear freedon bells ringing through-out our great Nation…

    “Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains or slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take but as for me; give me liberty or give me death!”

    Patrick Henry quotes (American Lawyer, patriot, and orator, symbol of the American struggle for liberty, 1736-1799)

  • JD

    Did anyone watch Obama’s address to Congress on Health care last night?

  • Bill Hedges

    JD

    “Again, I am not happy with the US debt level, but, I recognize that when you neglect the machine you pay more for it later and hence the saying that a “stitch in time, saves nine”.”

    Not much to do in market, I’ve bought only stock at right price. Selling price on other stocks not reached yet.

    So I exampled a little more carefully your only comment here.

    “A stitch in time saves nine”
    “Meaning”

    “A timely effort will prevent more work later.”

    “The question usually asked is “saves nine what”? The stitch in time is simply the sewing up of a small hole in a piece of material and so saving the need for more stitching at a later date, when the hole has become larger, Clearly, the first users of this expression were referring to saving nine stitches.”

    http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/a-stitch-in-time.html

    I found it curious the way you interject this saying…

    “Again, I am not happy with the US debt level, but, I recognize that when you neglect the machine you pay more for it later and hence the saying that a “stitch in time, saves nine”.”

    Especially when considering your previous statement.

    “In case, anyone is wondering why it is that 8 of the last 10 trillion dollars came from conservative administrations and we have nothing really to show for it. Is it because we have financed wars and instead of Republicans paying for these wars by raising funding through taxes we have successfully passed those costs onto the future?”

    Let’s surmise here, You don’t like debt left over, but must add more debt, so we can keep debt from getting larger, as the saying suggest…

    Sound very ‘strange’ doesn’t it. Just not right.

    On this site, I am only Conservative believer that giving money to big financial companies by Bush was correct. I feel results has bore me out as correct.

    Obama vastly expanded it, sighting Bush as his excuse. Though throwing it his face for the debt. Obama wants it every which way doesn’t he ???

    Obama’s scope was massive and taking controls, on verge of breaking law if not doing..

    For you to say obama was patching to make hole from getting smaller but widening is asinine. He ripped the cloth much worse.

    As I have mentioned recently, long ago, you said economy was getting better. Before passage of obams’s laws or at least very, vary small expenditure of the funds. Is still is very small.

    To sum up, obama should not patch…

    And the economy, thanks to Bush strategically placed loans and fed bank loans, economy is considered on road to recovery…

    “Trade, jobless claims figures show recession fades”

    “By CHRISTOPHER S. RUGABER, AP Economics Writer Christopher S. Rugaber, Ap Economics Writer – 1 hr 24 mins ago
    WASHINGTON – The U.S. trade deficit in July hit the highest level in six months as a record rise in imports outpaced a third straight increase in foreign demand for American products, according to government data released Thursday. Both gains provided more evidence that the most worst recession since the 1930s was losing its grip on the global economy.”

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090910/ap_on_bi_go_ec_fi/us_economy

    All that debt obama has set up to spend can be saved.

    “stitch in time, saves nine”.

  • Bill Hedges

    “Experts Analyze Obama’s Speech”

    “He could have encouraged Congress to consider health system reforms that will actually work”

    http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/Stories/2009/September/10/obama-speech-expert-panel.aspx

  • Bill Hedges

    JD

    I liked obama’s speech. The deeper he digs that hole the quicker America will thow him in. Reminds me of something Rush said ???

    Another email from my Brother.
    ……….

    Today’s News
    .
    Obama Speech to Congress last night
    * Obama stated last night & today, that “I will NOT sign a health care bill if it is fully paid for.”

    * Remember the health care bill HAS NOT MODIFIED BY THE SENATE
    * Currently there are several committees from the Senate meeting to modify this bill. No one knows the content of the final bill
    * Obama’s speech means nothing until the ‘final bill’ is passed and signed by the president, then, view the content of the health care

    AMA Medical Association
    Obama states AMA, doctors, and nurses supports his health care
    … OOPPoppsss …. 80% of the US doctors ARE NOT members of AMA
    Where does Obama substantials that nurses support his health care?

    * Today, doctors are going to Washington DC to protest health care

    * Obama speech says health care is self-funded but DOES NOT explained how to reduce the expense …HHUUMmmmm

    * Obama says Obama – Democrats will find & shrink the over-expense currently in medical expenses …HHUUMmmmm

    * Obama stated “he will call-out those people who are against his health plan”. …HHUUMmmmm

    * Are there exclusion clauses that exempt cosmetic operations, eye tuck, tummy tuck, sex-change?

    * Canada National Health Care includes ‘sex-change’ but not a an eye examine

    *
    Currently illegals are being medically treatment in the US.

    Is Obama a Liar ????
    Last night Obama speech to Congress Obama states that illegals do not get health care in the current bill to Senate.
    WW RR OO NN GG. …

    Interrupted Obama’s speech, Congressman Joe Wilson R-SC called Mr Obama “You lie”.
    .
    This morning, on Robin Meade CNN News this morning stated:
    It is a FACT in the current National Health Care Bill in the Senate,
    STATES – Illegals may be required to buy health care.

    In last night Obama speech to Congress, when Congressman Joe Wilson R-SC called Mr Obama “You lie”.
    Afterward the speech, Wilson apologized and the Whitehouse accepted

    Should Obama apologize that he lied to Congress and to Americans??

    Afterwards, Wilson apologized and the Whitehouse accepted
    Congressman Joe Wilson R-SC DID NOT LIE
    .
    BUT …Recently House Speaker Nancy Pelosi D-CA called the FBI as ‘Liars’ in many speeches from her.
    NO ONE contested her outraged remarks and she DID NOT apologize
    .
    .
    ACORN
    6 ACORN were arrested yesterday in Homestead, Florida
    Fraud registration of people that did not sign-up including using the name of the late Mr Paul Newman.
    .
    ACORN
    In Baltimore, Video of ACORN training others how NOT pay taxes and how to write-off sex entertainment
    as recreaton entertainment.
    .
    .
    John Adams Organization is showing photographs of CIA employees to terrorists at Gitmo.
    Fox newsman confront lawyer for John Adams and she denies this.
    .
    .
    9-10-9 Noon TV News showed a video of Nancy Pelosi speech
    Regarding their health care, let me repeat what she he stated:
    “Currently there are lots of “fraud” in today’s health care expenses and we can save billions and billions and billions and billions of dollars on our health care.”
    .
    .
    Now show all the lies in my comment JD. I write lots of comments…tear it apart. Ohh Wait, you hardly ever do. Can’t ???

  • Bill Hedges

    Acorn has a role in purposed health plan. Wonder if obama will remove them. Of course they may all be in jail by then, if passed, if we are lucky…

  • JD

    Bill do you know what Spam is???

  • Bill Hedges

    Yea, you can’t dispute anything I write. And you are hard hit that obama is falling apart as you watch. So you distract from subject by talking about spam. When purpose of site is to discuss politics. Which I am doing. But you last comment isn’t.

    But I understand. You can’t defend him. Look what happened last time you tired on this article.

  • Bill Hedges

    Just to make you day___

    This is a political site. My comments fit that concept.

    JD Sep 10th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
    “Bill do you know what Spam is???”

    yours does not…Soo

    My comments are relevent. Yours isn’t. Not one political thought

    Again, your attempt at insults falls by the waste side.

  • Bill Hedges

    Thanks to Congressman calling President last night a liar, loop-hole is suppose to be getting closed now so illegals can not get health care. As unusal seeing is believing.

    To bad 100’s of things were not yelled out last night…

  • Bill Hedges

    September 09, 2009 6:36 PM

    Glenn Beck’s New Target: Cass Sunstein

    Katie Connolly

    “After the resignation of Van Jones last weekend, pundits declared a victory for Fox News host Glenn Beck, who’d been whipping up his audience into a frenzy about Jones for weeks. Now Beck has a new target: Harvard law professor Cass Sunstein, who’s been nominated to lead the White House Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs. Sunstein’s nomination was announced in January, but after being repeatedly held up by Republican senators, it is now set to be voted on in the next few days.”

    Sunstein wrote:

    “If we focus on suffering, as I believe that we should, it is not necessarily impermissible to kill animals and use them for food; but it is entirely impermissible to be indifferent to their interests while they are alive. So too for other animals in farms, even or perhaps especially if they are being used for the benefit of human beings. If sheep are going to be used to create clothing, their conditions must be conducive to their welfare. We might ban hunting altogether, at least if its sole purpose is human recreation. (Should animals be hunted and killed simply because people enjoy hunting and killing them? The issue might be different if hunting and killing could be justified as having important functions, such as control of populations or protection of human beings against animal violence.)”

    http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/thegaggle/archive/2009/09/09/glenn-beck-s-new-target-cass-sunstein.aspx

    Bag another Glenn. Enjoy the hunt…

  • Bill Hedges

    “SC voters surprised by Wilson’s ‘You lie’ outburst”

    By SEANNA ADCOX, Associated Press Writer Seanna Adcox, Associated Press Writer – 23 mins ago

    WEST COLUMBIA, S.C. – “Rep. Joe Wilson is known as a mild-mannered congressman fond of making short speeches. His shortest got the most attention. “You lie!” Wilson blurted out during President Barack Obama’s health care address to a joint session Wednesday night, an outburst that made some supporters shudder even as others believed it could give Wilson a political boost in his conservative hometown.”

    “He’s the only one who has guts in that whole place. He’ll get re-elected in a landslide,” said John Roper, an insurance agent, as he sat among patrons at a diner near Columbia.”

    “But his shout is giving a financial boost to his Democratic opponent. The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee says Wilson’s 2008 opponent — a former Marine named Rob Miller, who is challenging him again in 2010 — has received more than $500,000 in contributions since Wednesday night. It’s not clear whether the people who made the donations live in South Carolina.”

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090910/ap_on_go_co/us_health_care_heckling_wilson

    A replacement for Sarah Palin has been found…

    Bet he gets re-elected. Especial if after obama’s heath care goes through and people live with it. Unfortureately, America pays the price.
    ……….

    How about Acorn tape going around today telling ‘prostitute’ don’t tell me about involvement of children.

    Acorn brought US housing mess, voting fauid, and soon health care involvement. GREAT !!!!

    MORE COMING.

    WE SUPPORT ACORN WITH OUR MONEY

  • Bill Hedges

    Acorn is also doing the census.

    Ought to watch Hannity from today. President Bush was booed for warning Cogress for what we have gone through by Democrats.

    What a nice thing to forget. Now blame Bush… Watch the tape.

  • Bill Hedges

    “AMERICA NEEDS A CANDIDATE WITH THIS PLATFORM!!”

    “I HAVE DECIDED TO BECOME A WRITE-IN CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT IN THE YEAR 2012. HERE IS MY PLATFORM:”

    1.” Any use of the phrase:”

    “‘Press 1 for English’ is immediately banned.”

    “English is the official language;”

    “speak it or wait outside of our borders until you can.”

    “2. We will immediately go into a 2-year isolationist attitude in order to straighten out the greedy big business posture in this country. America will allow NO imports, and we’ll do no exports. We will use the ‘Wal-Mart ‘s policy,
    ‘If we ain’t got it, you don’t need it.’
    We’ll make it here and sell it here! ”

    “3. When imports are allowed, there will be a 100% import tax on it coming in here.”

    “4. All retired military personnel will be required to man one of the many observation towers located on the southern border of the United States (6-month tour). They will be under strict orders not to fire on SOUTHBOUND aliens.”

    “5. Social Security will immediately return to its original state. If you didn’t put nuttin in, you ain’t getting nuttin out. Neither the President nor any other politician will be able to touch it.”

    “6. Welfare – Checks will be handed out on Fridays, at the end of the 40-hour school week, the successful completion of a urinalysis test for drugs, and passing grades.”

    “7. Professional Athletes – Steroids? The FIRST time you check positive you are banned from sports …for life.”

    “8. Crime – We will adopt the Turkish method,
    i.e., the first time you steal, you lose your right hand.
    There is no more ‘life sentences’.
    If convicted of murder, you will be put to death by the same method you chose for the victim you killed: gun, knife, strangulation, etc.”

    “9. One export of ours will be allowed: wheat; because the world needs to eat. However, a bushel of wheat will be the exact price of a barrel of oil.”

    “10. All foreign aid using American taxpayer money, will immediately cease and the saved money will help to pay off the national debt and ultimately lower taxes. When disasters occur around the world, we’ll ask The American People if they want to donate to a disaster fund, and each citizen can make the decision as to whether, or not, it’s a worthy cause.”

    “11. The Pledge of Allegiance will be said every day at school and every day in Congress.”

    “12. The National Anthem will be played at all appropriate ceremonies, sporting events, outings, etc.”

    “My apology is offered if I’ve stepped on anyone’s toes nevertheless……. ”

    “GOD BLESS AMERICA”

    “Sincerely,”

    Bill Cosby
    ……….

    I don’t think Bill Crosby is a Liberal, Conservative, Or Independent.

    He is an American. One of our best. I wish to God he was our President…

    I don’t believe his words were meant to be taken literally. His attitude was.

  • JD

    Bill, you forgot to add to the Cosby platform:

    “Bill is not allowed to post frivilous reponses to any topic on “youdecidepolitics.com””

    and

    “youdecidepolitics.com changes its name to Ihateobama.com”

    *insert Smile*

  • Bill Hedges

    Just found out Bill Crosby did not write. Check outed it as fake

    Poor jd still unable to discuss political subjects.

    Is delusional. Believes he owns this site.

    I suppose 49 % total aprroval for obama has rocked your world. He has dropped approval rating in record time.

    So you go for personal attack.

    Silly irrelivent child

  • Bill Hedges

    United States census has disqualified Acorn from helping on census.

    Justice…

    Now to stop $ billions in gifts. Shameful gifts to get Democrats elected

    Abominable

  • Bill Hedges

    So defend your god JD.

    I write many comments. Can’t you find one to dispute.
    Are you afraid of my rebuttal ? Or you find it a lossing cause, because omygod has no redeming political stance ?

    Your insults is your answer.

    Who laughts ?

    My smile is real…You have every oppertunely, but your voice is silent to political comments.

    There is no hatred here, only views backed with facts. And growing public acceptance of my view.

    You are a dying breed JD. I guess in war, someone has to be the last one to die. You can be it.

  • Bill Hedges

    Democrats have dug up dirt on one who yelled liar at obama’s speech. Gee, pulling another Sarah. Wilson abuses a drug. ‘No Dose’…

    What Wilson yelled about obama did lie about. Was a truthful statement by Wilson.

    Democrats are now closing loop holes that allow illegal’s to get health plan and allows abortions.

    Democrat before this refused to close the loop-holes

    Although Fox showed Democrat booing Bush, not honoring his position of Presidency, Wilson is being ask to apologize for dishonoring Presidency of obama in Congress room. Even though obama lied.

    Is a double standard. OK againsh Bush. Not ok against obama. No body had to say he ws sorry to Bush

    Should be even in JD’s eye. If honest and not wearing rose colored glasses and drinking koolade.

    It took an extra-ordinary act to change bad legislation. Well some of the bad legislation.

  • bones

    Please elaborate on Obama’s ‘lie’ Bill.

    My understanding is that the president was telling the truth – the bill would not cover illegal immigrants. However it lacks a mechanism to enforce this. My guess is that they could only get by in emergency rooms, where the hospitals are already essentially obligated to treat anyone who needs care.

    I think Wilson was rude and out of hand. But I wish the press would let go of it. A lack of manners in congress is hardly front page news.

  • bones

    Please elaborate on Obama’s ‘lie’ Bill.

    My understanding is that the president was telling the truth – the bill would not cover illegal immigrants. However it lacks a mechanism to enforce this. My guess is that they could only get by in emergency rooms, where the hospitals are already essentially obligated to treat anyone who needs care.

    I think Wilson was rude and out of hand. But I wish the press would let go of it. An inordinately rude congressman is hardly front page news.

  • Bill Hedges

    No, there was a loop hole that allowed. Wilson was telling truth.

    I am not sure the loop hole. you may be right about no enforcement. I do not know.

    But as I stated, Democrats was told about loop hole and refused to fix.

    Now they are fixing it. For illegals and abortion.

    If wilson was rude, so was Democrats rude to Bush. Booing him, Fox showed tape. I saw it

    As I pointed out. Lets not have double standard here. Democrats did not say they were sorry to Bush So why now. .

    It is front page news when Prestident lies to the people.

    On this site we have documented many such lies by obama

    Green czar lost his job because of persistence. This bad health bill should fail. Polls show people don’t want it. These lies coming out will make it worse for his falling polls approval.

    A person is not rude telling truth. It was ok for democrats, so it is ok for Wilsom.

  • Bill Hedges

    One more point.

    By court ruling, if abortion is not excluded in bill, then it is allowed. Democrats are drawing up this bill. This fact was pointed out to Democrats. They refused to exclude abotion.

    We all know obama got elected with major help from Acorn, abortion group, and unions.

    For obama to say it would not cover, he knew better.

    Wilson is now having his past investigated . Like sarah Palin, nothing has been discovered.

    So I suggest same personal attacks will occur to Wilson. If so, any decent person, of any party, should be against.

    Best they have shown so far, he abuses no dose pills. They are going for character assasination. And as with Sarah, making it up is alright.

    That alone, would keep me from being a Democrat.

  • Bill Hedges

    “Obama warns against scare tactics over healthcare”

    By Matt Spetalnick Matt Spetalnick – Sat Sep 12, 5:25 pm ET

    MINNEAPOLIS (Reuters) – “President Barack Obama warned Americans on Saturday not to be tricked by “scare tactics” he accused his opponents of using as he went on the road to rally support for his drive to overhaul the U.S. healthcare system.”

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090912/pl_nm/us_usa_healthcare_obama

    Hey prez, I remenber Sarah, Joe the Plumber, and all your bad picks for government job. Call it “scare tactics” I call ittelling it the truth.
    ……….

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    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections2/election_2010/election_2010_senate_elections/colorado/election_2010_colorado_senate_race

    Your shirt tails are getting very short Obama
    Even learder in House and Senatate are in deep do-do.

  • Many people say, “Why do people always bring up Bush to defend what Obama is doing.”

    Those same people bring up what people said about Bush whenever they are defending republicans doing wrong.

    “If wilson was rude, so was Democrats rude to Bush. Booing him, Fox showed tape. I saw it

    As I pointed out. Lets not have double standard here. Democrats did not say they were sorry to Bush So why now. .

    It is front page news when Prestident lies to the people.

    On this site we have documented many such lies by obama”

    I suppose wrong + wrong = right or maybe it’s wrong/wrong cancells out each other and leaves 0 aka right?

    Not sure. LoL

  • Bill Hedges

    To be fair, Wilson remark was totally correct. To shout out the truth should be our standard. Afterwards, errs was corrected, though not done before when first pointed out.

    Was wrong for President to lie. Cast doubt on his integrity. Had he made a honest mistake and not known the things in the bill, he should of come forward on the air and so acknowledged. Instead of allowing Wilson to be shunned for the truth.

    Ideally, no applaud of approval nor shouts.

    Patrick Henry shouted his cause. If right is shouted to protest lie, I must stand and join. President is suppose to be truthful in his address. Therefore, Wilson action was appropriate.

    Things that Bush was booed for in 1995 is exactly the cause of our recent economic failure. Had Congress listened and acted, economy could have been saved. His truth was dismissed. That was wrong.

    So I say it is not 2 wrongs.

    America’s golden rules are not etched in stone as in England. Right is right. Wrong is always wrong. Even in the halls of Congress. In spite of tradition.

    I hold all in Congress, Judical, and Presidency, czars, etc., accountable, Let the whistle blowers be our heroes. Not outcasts.

    I am sure. LOL

  • Bill Hedges

    There is no such thing as two wrong canceling out each other. Two wrongs are two wrongs.

    Be it from any party, wrong injures our Country. Must not be allowed. Those who deceive us must face the consequences. They have abused our trust and should not hold office.

    Be it President, Congress person, Czar, or police personnel.

  • My point exactly

  • Bill Hedges

    I am not sure how

    “I suppose wrong + wrong = right or maybe it’s wrong/wrong cancells out each other and leaves 0 aka right?”

    “Not sure. LoL”

    agrees with me. But I am willing to accept

    “My point exactly “

  • Bill Hedges

    Main stream coverage of recent Acorn video tape is not being really covered. $53,000,000 has already been given to group that helped cause banking, home and vote fiasco is under investigation in 13 States. Hugh bonus planned by Congress. Acorn is even part of health care bill. WOW. Wonder why, Acorn backs Obama and Democrat party. Government is providing massive amounts of money to elect Democrats to Acorn. Can you say Corruption ???

    Further evidence will be released tonight.

    Sanctions is being discussed if Wilson does not sorry again. The Speaker of House is being considered by Republicans along with Congress man who had money in his freezer. Among others Democrats.

    I am all for a complete investigation and hearing on all this. Let’s add Dodd and Frank concerning the housing failure by sub-prime loan mismanagement and personal gain. Let’s open this up to public eyes. Obama wants transparency and surely for it as I am ? Ha-ha.

    Let’s clean both sides of Congress of the fraud and corruption. As well as speaking out about lies. They will destroy Wilson. LOL

    Biggest laugh today was listening to Obama pander to AFL-CIO along with his class envy speech.

  • JD

    SSSShhhhh, Bill… I am hunting Rabbits.

  • Bill Hedges

    Poor jd. You are a obamaite without defense for your god. Don’t take it out on innocent rabbit.

    ‘obama’synopsis_blame others for bad, take credit for all good. Play the class and race card.

  • JD

    God needs no defense… Right, Nate???

  • Bill Hedges

    “Obama’s health prescription a problem for Dems”

    Ap Special Correspondent – 17 mins ago

    WASHINGTON –” Taken off guard, Democrats at work on health care legislation are grappling with President Barack Obama’s nationally televised insistence on immediate access to insurance for those with pre-existing medical conditions, as well as richer Medicare prescription drug benefits than originally envisioned.”

    “Additionally, Obama’s pledge to hold the overall cost of legislation to about $900 billion over a decade has spread concern among House Democrats, who have long contemplated a costlier measure.”

    “Yet another late complication, according to several Democrats, is the president’s statement that he will not sign a bill “if it adds one dime to the deficit, now or in the future, period. And to prove that I’m serious, there will be a provision in this plan that requires us to come forward with more spending cuts if the savings we promised don’t materialize.”

    “The $900 billion target is “very difficult,” Rep. Charlie Rangel, D-N.Y., chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, told reporters. “This is reducing coverage for poor and working people.” He spoke of other “restrictions the president has given in his speech.”

    “Obama outlined his conditions in last week’s speech and an accompanying fact sheet posted on the White House Web Site as Democrats point toward votes in the House and Senate this fall.”

    “After months of bipartisan negotiations, Sen. Max Baucus, D-Mont., chairman of the Finance Committee, told associates during the day he intends to unveil a detailed outline of legislation on Wednesday and convene the panel next week to vote on it.”

    “Despite numerous gestures to Republicans, there were clear indications that Baucus had fallen short in his quest to assemble a coalition of senators from both parties behind his plan.”

    “Baucus’ proposal is certain to shun the liberals’ call for the government to sell insurance, and rely instead on co-ops to offer coverage in competition with private industry. His approach includes a requirement for individuals to buy insurance, with financial penalties for those who don’t. Rather than a mandate for larger businesses to provide coverage for employees, they would be required to defray the cost of any government subsidies their employees would qualify for.”

    “I fully expect Republican support coming out of committee,” he said, but other Democrats said they believed Sen. Olympia Snowe, R-Maine, would be the only one of the panel’s 10 GOP members to vote for the package. Sens. Charles Grassley of Iowa and Mike Enzi of Wyoming have also been involved in the marathon negotiations, but both have raised late objections.

    “Liberals, too, expressed their unhappiness.”

    “The way it is now there is no way I can vote for the package,” Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va., said on a conference call with reporters.”

    “Obama’s decision to detail terms for health care legislation came after months of public deference to lawmakers.”

    “Neither the bill making its way to the House floor nor two companion measures in the Senate included an interim program to assure coverage for consumers with pre-existing medical conditions. Instead, the bills would have waited until 2013, when numerous consumer protections are envisioned.”

    “Sen. Kent Conrad, D-N.D., said the six-member bipartisan group of senators was working at the last minute to meet the president’s request. Another official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said it involved creation of a high-risk insurance pool, beginning in 2010.”

    “No details were available about costs, either to the consumer or the government.”

    “In the House, a spokesman for the Ways and Means Committee said legislation does not include Obama’s request for immediate availability of insurance for those with pre-existing medical conditions. But lawmakers “are currently drafting a provision for inclusion in the final bill,” the spokesman, Matthew Beck, added in an e-mail.”

    “Officials in both houses said fulfilling Obama’s request on Medicare prescription drug benefits would be considerably more difficult, citing the cost.”

    “The measure Baucus is expected to unveil would cut the so-called “doughnut hole” in half by 2019, but any additional benefit would have to come later, he told reporters.”

    “In the House, Beck said draft legislation called for closing the gap in 15 years, “using drug manufacturer rebates to cover the cost.”

    “Administration officials set the cost of closing the gap at $100 billion over a decade, about $30 billion of which would be picked up by the pharmaceutical industry as part of an agreement announced earlier in the year.”

    “Nearly a week after Obama’s speech, White House aides have not released key details of Obama’s various other proposals, including their cost.”

    “They have yet to explain, for example, whether his no-new-deficit pledge is limited to a one-year time frame, the 10-year period that lawmakers generally use, or a longer period that would greatly complicate efforts to pass legislation that meets his requirements.”

    “Conrad, who is also chairman of the Senate Budget Committee, said he expected a Congressional Budget Office study would show the bill headed for the Finance Committee would reduce deficits over a 20-year period.”

    “Leaders in both houses of Congress have pledged support for provisions that would lead to savings in Medicare over the long term. But as of yet, none of the bills in circulation includes the type of standby cuts that Obama mentioned in his speech last week.”

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090915/ap_on_go_co/us_health_care_overhaul

    What classic obama action. Postponed implementation of promises and claim success.

    Slide of hand tricks. That’s why I call him Flem Flam Man. Was a great movie with George C. Scott. Bad when played by El Prez.

    Massive tax on health insurance will not be enjoyed by buyers. Is one of many ideas. Even if you make less than $250,000. Face facts, one way or another your taxes are going way up.
    ……….

    Well people in the know say recession is over. JD saw it months ago. Is normal for unemployment drops to follow 6-9 months later..

    Bush plan of helping loosen credit crunch and Fed massive lending policy worked. Obama’s plan has hardly left the post.
    ……….

    I saw tonight on ABC news is carrying Acorn prostitution and minor children home buying video. Must be dishearten to Liberal the spread from Fox.

    Have they kicked Acorn out of health plan bill yet ???

  • Bill Hedges

    JD

    Big G God does not need defense. Little g god obama does.

    You are so easy to correct.

    Still rather rant than discuss politics. Is hard to defend a liar.

  • I tried to sign Mr. Huckabee’s petition on the subject “balance, cut, save” but was told on the webpage that SERVICE UNAVAILABLE. What’s up? I want so much to support Mr. Huckabee’s views.