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One very controversial aspect of HR3200, the Obamacare legislation currently being debated in House committee, is a mandate on buying insurance, either the government option or private insurance. With the mandate comes the imposition of taxes on employers or individuals who do not follow the requirement of purchasing health insurance, whether they want to or not. No shock here, but it it seems that explicitly based on precedent, this provision is highly unconstitutional as nowhere in congress’ enumerate powers is this even remotely granted as something congress can legally be undertaking.
David B. Rivkin Jr. and Lee A. Casey explain in this WaPo editorial:
President Obama has called for a serious and reasoned debate about his plans to overhaul the health-care system. Any such debate must include the question of whether it is constitutional for the federal government to adopt and implement the president’s proposals. Consider one element known as the “individual mandate,” which would require every American to have health insurance, if not through an employer then by individual purchase. This requirement would particularly affect young adults, who often choose to save the expense and go without coverage. Without the young to subsidize the old, a comprehensive national health system will not work. But can Congress require every American to buy health insurance?
In short, no. The Constitution assigns only limited, enumerated powers to Congress and none, including the power to regulate interstate commerce or to impose taxes, would support a federal mandate requiring anyone who is otherwise without health insurance to buy it.
Although the Supreme Court has interpreted Congress’s commerce power expansively, this type of mandate would not pass muster even under the most aggressive commerce clause cases. In Wickard v. Filburn (1942), the court upheld a federal law regulating the national wheat markets. The law was drawn so broadly that wheat grown for consumption on individual farms also was regulated. Even though this rule reached purely local (rather than interstate) activity, the court reasoned that the consumption of homegrown wheat by individual farms would, in the aggregate, have a substantial economic effect on interstate commerce, and so was within Congress’s reach.
The court reaffirmed this rationale in 2005 in Gonzales v. Raich, when it validated Congress’s authority to regulate the home cultivation of marijuana for personal use. In doing so, however, the justices emphasized that — as in the wheat case — “the activities regulated by the [Controlled Substances Act] are quintessentially economic.” That simply would not be true with regard to an individual health insurance mandate.
The otherwise uninsured would be required to buy coverage, not because they were even tangentially engaged in the “production, distribution or consumption of commodities,” but for no other reason than that people without health insurance exist. The federal government does not have the power to regulate Americans simply because they are there. Significantly, in two key cases, United States v. Lopez (1995) and United States v. Morrison (2000), the Supreme Court specifically rejected the proposition that the commerce clause allowed Congress to regulate noneconomic activities merely because, through a chain of causal effects, they might have an economic impact. These decisions reflect judicial recognition that the commerce clause is not infinitely elastic and that, by enumerating its powers, the framers denied Congress the type of general police power that is freely exercised by the states.
This leaves mandate supporters with few palatable options. Congress could attempt to condition some federal benefit on the acquisition of insurance. States, for example, usually condition issuance of a car registration on proof of automobile insurance, or on a sizable payment into an uninsured motorist fund. Even this, however, cannot achieve universal health coverage. No federal program or entitlement applies to the entire population, and it is difficult to conceive of a “benefit” that some part of the population would not choose to eschew.
The other obvious alternative is to use Congress’s power to tax and spend. In an effort, perhaps, to anchor this mandate in that power, the Senate version of the individual mandate envisions that failure to comply would be met with a penalty, to be collected by the IRS. This arrangement, however, is not constitutional either.
Like the commerce power, the power to tax gives the federal government vast authority over the public, and it is well settled that Congress can impose a tax for regulatory rather than purely revenue-raising purposes. Yet Congress cannot use its power to tax solely as a means of controlling conduct that it could not otherwise reach through the commerce clause or any other constitutional provision. In the 1922 case Bailey v. Drexel Furniture, the Supreme Court ruled that Congress could not impose a “tax” to penalize conduct (the utilization of child labor) it could not also regulate under the commerce clause. Although the court’s interpretation of the commerce power’s breadth has changed since that time, it has not repudiated the fundamental principle that Congress cannot use a tax to regulate conduct that is otherwise indisputably beyond its regulatory power.
Of course, these constitutional impediments can be avoided if Congress is willing to raise corporate and/or income taxes enough to fund fully a new national health system. Absent this politically dangerous — and therefore unlikely — scenario, advocates of universal health coverage must accept that Congress’s power, like that of the other branches, has limits. These limits apply regardless of how important the issue may be, and neither Congress nor the president can take constitutional short cuts. The genius of our system is that, no matter how convinced our elected officials may be that certain measures are in the public interest, their goals can be accomplished only in accord with the powers and processes the Constitution mandates, processes that inevitably make them accountable to the American people.
Arguments presented, such as these, are not drawn on political leanings or opinions, they’re drawn on the letter of the law and Supreme Court precedent. Many people, including congress itself, often forget that government power is itself regulated under the constitution based on what the individual federal bodies can and cannot do.
To say that congress and the President forcing every single American to purchase one form of health insurance or another is an overstep of federal power is putting it lightly. The concept of mandated health insurance makes the Stamp Act of of 1765 look like nothing, putting it in today’s context, and yet that launched the beginnings of a revolution.
Hot Air comments further:
Most states now require drivers to have auto insurance before issuing drivers licenses, car registrations, or both. However, that doesn’t apply here for three reasons. First, that power rests with the individual states, as they are the licensing authorities and not the federal government. Second, driving is not a right but a privilege, which gives access to state-owned roads in exchange for a demonstration of competence and appropriate safety and insurance preparation, so the state can and does set conditions on that privilege (too many, but that’s an argument for another day). Third, because the insurance is conditioned on that privilege, it only affects a portion of the populace. The states could not demand universal auto insurance on every man, woman, and child in their state.
But how about using the tax code to enforce the mandate? Congress has the power to tax, as we know all too well, and they can create some severe penalties for failure to comply. In fact, HR3200 does just that now.
Finally, I’ll close with this Marine Corp Veteran giving U.S. Congressman Brian Baird a tongue lashing for his Obamacare support:
Amen to that.
How did we allow the federal government to become so power-hungry and arrogant in believing they do not have to be held accountable to the United States Constitution?
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“Lieberman says many health care changes can wait”
By DOUGLASS K. DANIEL, Associated Press Writer Douglass K. Daniel, Associated Press Writer – Sun Aug 23, 9:50 pm ET
“I’m afraid we’ve got to think about putting a lot of that off until the economy’s out of recession,” said Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman. “There’s no reason we have to do it all now, but we do have to get started. And I think the place to start is cost health delivery reform and insurance market reforms.”
http://news.yahoo.com/s/a.....e_overhaul
I am not sure what changes Lieberman is talking about. I can only guess. If tort reform and allowing insurance companies to cross State lines, then sounds like responsible change that will led to insurance cost reductions. Might get bipartisan support depending on the details. Fat chance???
I surmise that includes lower malpractice limitation; helping Doctors, hospitals, and drug companies to lower their cost.
Lieberman is right about bad time for omagod’s health legislation. Bad bill and economy is very fragile. Plus, with every elections, the dynamics of Congress make-up will change.
Expect pressure Lieberman. That’s obamaite’s style…You’re going against the cult.
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“McCain: Obama must drop health care public option”
Sun Aug 23, 9:02 am ET
WASHINGTON – “Sen. John McCain says President Barack Obama will have to drop proposals for a government-run health insurance option if he hopes to reach congressional agreement on health-care reform.”
“McCain says many Americans are losing confidence in Obama partly because of concerns about the so-called public option. The Arizona Republican proposed that Obama meet with members of both parties in Congress to find areas of agreement, abandon the public option, and then make clear exactly what he wants in the legislation.”
“McCain said that right now Obama is simply leaving it to Congress to decide the details and that isn’t enough. He maintains that Republicans are willing to sit down with the president and talk about various reforms.”
http://news.yahoo.com/s/a.....c_option_2
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“Talk of Senate voting maneuvers on health care”
Sun Aug 23, 12:54 pm ET
WASHINGTON – “A Republican senator predicts Democrats will turn to a little-used voting procedure to try get around GOP opposition and pass health care legislation.”
“It takes 60 votes to shut down GOP opposition and move ahead to an up-or-down vote on a bill. But there is a way for the Democratic-run Senate to decide that only a majority is needed to pass a certain measure.”
“GOP Sen. Orrin Hatch of Utah says taking that approach on health care would be an abuse of the rules.”
“A Democratic senator, Chuck Schumer of New York, says such a maneuver could be used if Republicans don’t work to advance a bipartisan health bill.”
http://news.yahoo.com/s/a.....care_hatch
“5 freedoms you’d lose in health care reform If you read the fine print in the Congressional plans, you’ll find that a lot of cherished aspects of the current system would disappear. “
1. “Freedom to choose what’s in your plan”
2. “Freedom to be rewarded for healthy living, or pay your real costs”
3. “Freedom to choose high-deductible coverage”
4. “Freedom to keep your existing plan”
5. “Freedom to choose your doctors”
“The best solution is to move to a let-freedom-ring regime of high deductibles, no community rating, no standard benefits, and cross-state shopping for bargains (another market-based reform that’s strictly taboo in the bills). I’ll propose my own solution in another piece soon on Fortune.com. For now, we suffer with a flawed health-care system, but we still have our Five Freedoms. Call them the Five Endangered Freedoms.”
http://money.cnn.com/2009.....a.fortune/
Sunday, August 23, 2009
“What Really Happened Last Week in Montana from Kathy in Bozeman”
Prez. o-my-god in little town U.S.A.
http://duhdailyscoop.blog.....ek-in.html
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“This is Brain Surgery__Canadian style”
http://www.freemarketcure.....urgery.php
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“Congressman Tom Price … Medical Doctor”
“against the tyranny of the majority”
http://www.youtube.com/wa.....k&NR=1
“We are in the boredom killing business. Don’t come to us for truth.? We’ll tell you whatever shit you want to hear. Go to yourself because that’s the only way you’re going to find real truth”
Amen
hmmmmmmm.,…
JD
“Although the AARP says it is not “officially” endorsing President Obama’s healthcare reform”
http://action.afa.net/Blo.....2147486437
For those of us who go to firing range and play, this email from my brother is for you.
……….
“guns and ammo : Here’s some more “change”
Gun-28 (Empty Ammo Casings)
News Regarding Ammo, Georgia Arms
Georgia Arms is the 5th largest retailer of .223 Ammo in America .
(they sell 9 mm, .45, etc ammo)
They normally buy spent brass (”one time used” shell casings)
from the US Dept of Defense (DOD), previously used by our Military
from training on Military bases, etc. They buy the brass and then
re-load for resale to Law Enforcement, Gun Shops, Gun Clubs,
Wal-Mart, etc. They normally buy 30,000 lbs of spent brass at a
time.
This week the DOD wrote a letter to the owner of Georgia Arms
and said that from now on the DOD will be destroying the brass by
shredding it. It is no longer available to the Ammo makers – unless
they just buy it in a scrap shredded condition (which they have no
use for).
The shredded brass is NOW going to be sold by the DOD to China
as scrap metal, after the DOD pays for it to be shredded. The DOD
is selling the brass to China for less money than established’
Ammo manufacturers have been paying — plus the DOD has to pay to
have the brass shredded and do all the accounting paperwork. That sure
helps the US economy now, doesn’t it? Sell cheaper to China and
do not sell shells at all to a proven US business.
Any agenda working here?
Looks like Obama is going after our ammunition !!!
The Georgia Arms owner even related a story that one of his
competitors had already purchased a load of brass casings last
week; and the DOD contacted him this week, and said they were
sending someone over to make sure it was destroyed. Shell
casings he had already bought!
The brass has no value to the ammo maker if it is destroyed —
be it by shredding or melting. The ammo manufacturer only uses
the empty brass shells to reload different calibers, mainly .223
bullets.
Georgia Arms owner says that he will have to lay off at least half
of his 60 workers within 2 to 3 months if the DOD no longer sells
their spent brass to him. He has a 2 to 3 month inventory of shells
to use. By summer he’s out. If he has to buy new manufactured
brass shells, then the cost of ammunition to the buyer will more
than double — perhaps even triple.
Plus, Obama wants to add a 500% tax on each shell.
You can read the info and see the DOD letter to Georgia Arms at
these sites:
The Shootist Site:
http://www.theshootist.net/
Georgia Arms Site:
http://georgia-arms.com/
Loss of US jobs, control of ammunition by the new Obama
administration — liberalism at its best and on the way to socialism.
When times get bad, and they will very soon, only the bad will have
guns and ammo.
This new “Obomanation” is going to make good citizens into criminals
by trying to take our guns and ammo
……….
That’s ok Obama. My friends and I re-load. Plus lots of surpus ammo. Very safely stored. We remember outlawing assault rifles and black talian ammo. We knew the future had in store more. Just matter of time. Gun registration, yeah, good luck.
Thanks to Bush, his plan has paid off in recovery of financial institution. Heard on Fox News government has received $11 trillion is profits. Golen S. paid like 23% interest and whatever on their loans. So far…
omaygod won’t try to take credit for reducing Bush’s debt. Would he ??? Or saving us ???
I can’t wait for time to pass on these house sale specials and junk cars deals. Same old revised sub prime ???
LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT…………..
OBAMAS HEALTH CARE PLAN WILL:
* Be written by a committee whose head says he doesn’t understand it.
* Be passed by a Congress that hasn’t read it BUT EXEMPTS THEMSELVES FROM BEING COVERED UNDER IT.
* Be signed by a President who smokes cigarettes AND ALSO HASN’T READ IT AND WON’T BE COVERED UNDER IT.
* Have funding administered by a Tresury chief who did not pay his taxes AND WON’T BE COVERED UNDER IT.
* Be overseen by a Surgeon General who is obese.
* Be financed by a country that is nearly broke.
WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG?????
I just heard on CNBC that price for insurance is set by law. Varies I guess by coverage and group size, etc…
If true, why do we blame heath companies for cost of insurance ???
“President Bush, while in the TexANG [Texas Air National Guard] did volunteer for service in Vietnam but was turned down in favor of more experienced pilots.”
Bernie Goldberg’s
“Between Manhattan and Malibu”
Tuesday, August 25th, 2009 at 7:58 pm
“A “Lost” Fact in the “Rathergate” Mess — Part 1″
… “There were accusations that Rather, Mapes, and maybe the entire CBS News Division had set out to deliberately destroy George W. Bush and get John Kerry elected President of the United States – a charge everyone at CBS vehemently denies.”
“The story was about how the young George Bush got preferential treatment during the Vietnam War; how he wangled his way into the Texas Air National Guard back in the 1960s to avoid service in Vietnam; and how he was able to do it because his father was a big-shot, a United States Congressman from Houston. The story portrayed the Bush as a slacker. Others have said it portrayed him as a “cowardly draft dodger.”
“And to bolster their story, Rather and Mapes got their hands on “never-before-seen” documents (as Rather put it in his story) that supposedly backed up their months (and in Mapes’ case, years) of reporting. But in no time flat the documents came under attack, mainly by conservatives on the web who examined the typeface of the memos and concluded they were fakes.”
“CBS News management aggressively defended the story in general and the documents in particular – until they didn’t. After about two weeks, CBS threw in the towel and said it could no longer stand by the story. Rather, who had been vigorously defending his story, reluctantly went on the air and admitted the documents could not be authenticated. Later he would say he was forced to do it.”
“In the aftermath of the fiasco, CBS established an outside panel to look into the matter. In January of 2005 the panel issued a report which concluded the news division failed to establish that the documents were legitimate and not bogus. Mapes was fired. A vice president and two producers were forced to resign. And Dan Rather was a dead man walking.”
“Until now, the controversy over the Rather/Mapes story has centered almost entirely on one issue: the legitimacy of the documents – a very important issue, indeed. But it turns out that there was another very important issue, one that goes to the very heart of what the story was about – and one that has gone virtually unnoticed. This is it: Mary Mapes knew before she put the story on the air that George W. Bush, the alleged slacker, had in fact volunteered to go to Vietnam.”
“Mapes had information prior to the airing of the September 8 [2004] Segment that President Bush, while in the TexANG [Texas Air National Guard] did volunteer for service in Vietnam but was turned down in favor of more experienced pilots. For example, a flight instructor who served in the TexANG with Lieutenant Bush advised Mapes in 1999 that Lieutenant Bush “did want to go to Vietnam but others went first.” Similarly, several others advised Mapes in 1999, and again in 2004 before September 8, that Lieutenant Bush had volunteered to go to Vietnam but did not have enough flight hours to qualify.”
http://www.bernardgoldber.....ss-part-1/
Speaking of unconstitutional, don’t you think that Abu Ghraib, a prison camp set up by the American government on foreign soil in order to circumvent American law, blatantly and unquestionably violates the spirit of the constitution?
Because I got the impression that the writers of this blog fully support the existence of that prison camp anyway. That would make it seem selective, to here be so concerned about constitutionality of health care.
But perhaps I misunderstand.
“Don’t you think that Abu Ghraib a prison camp set up by the American government on foreign soil in order to circumvent American law blatantly and unquestionably violates the spirit of the Constitution?”……bones 26 August 2009 @ 10:19AM
It DOESN’T violates the Constitution in the same spirit and letter of the law as DEMOCRAT PRESIDENT FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT did with his prison camps for JAPANESE AMERICANS DURING WORLD WAR II.President Bush camps were for TERRORIST AND COMBAT PRISONERS WHILE FDR’s WERE FOR INNOCENT CIVILIANS.
No you don’t misunderstand you are just blind to REALITY!
DD… I agree with what you say. I’m uncertain as to why you think I’m blind to reality. But you didn’t really address my point
Has anyone else seen where the President had a conference call with Rabbi Jack Moline and a group of other Rabbis to plead their support for his health care bill.During the call he stated to them “We are partners with God in matters of life and death” YES THE MESSIAH REALLY SAID THIS! SOMEONE WHO STATED PREVIOUSLY THAT “WHEN LIFE BEGINS IS ABOVE MY PAY GRADE.”and the bill DOESN’T HAVE A DEATH CLAUSE says he is now a PARTNER WITH GOD TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS! More than likely he thinks he is SENIOR MEMBER OF THIS TEAM.The REAL INSULT WAS when they were on hold the background music was “DEUTSCHLAND UBER ALLES” a German anthem whose lyrics state preserve and protect our KAISER and our land.The article can be found at the August 19th 2009 Politico and the author is Ben Smith if the link below doesn’t work.
http://www.politico.com/b.....inate.html
bones……..BECAUSE COMPARING TERRORIST AND COMBAT PARTICAPANTS WITH INNOCENT CIVILIANS IS LIKE COMPARING APPLES AND ORANGES.
You made that comparison, DD. I did not. But looking back, you were probably confused by the fact that I meant to write “Guantanamo bay”, not “Abu Ghraib”. It’s Guantanamo where we set up a long term prison on foreign soil in order to avoid adhering to American law.
bones……..If you re-read my post of 2:17 PM and 2:47 PM it addresses your point perfectly.Since you brought Guantanamo Bay/ Abu Ghraib out of the clear blue for a comparison on Constitutionality of the health care bill I will bring the prison camps FDR used in my comparison to yours.
Ah you don’t see my relevancy to the article. Well why didn’t you say so, instead of bringing up something else irrelevant?
The relevancy is this: if constitutionality is something that is of concern here, why is it not of concern regarding other issues where the violations are more blatant, such as our government finding loopholes in order to disobey the laws it has set into place? This is what confuses me. It seems selective to care about the constitution in some circumstances but shrug it off in others
bones………I’m glad you finally got my drift.I didn’t vote for President Bush and I didn’t think he followed Conservative principles so there fore I’m not about to defend him outside of saying terrorist and combat particapants aren’t protected under the Constitution.You’ll have to talk to Bill about President Bush.
However why is it the left always wants to equate what ever President Obama does with President Bush? History when they look back on the current administration isn’t going to cpmpare the two administrations BUT EACH ONE ON THE MERITS OF WHAT IT DID ITSELF AS IT SHOULD BE.I TRY NOT TO GET INTO THESE COMPARISONS BECAUSE IT SERVES NO PURPOSE EXCEPT ” NAH NAH I GOT YOU ” WHICH IS A CHILDISH ATTITUDE AND IS ONLY USED TO DIVERT ATTENTION FROM THE ARGUEMENT.Lets try to stick to the current administration and their motives for the moves they make whether we are for or against said moves.
And here the MESSIAH preaches the virtues of HIS RELIGION “BIG GOVERNMENT”
http://www.althouse.blogs.....nment.html
DD,
I understand your point, and I see why you might interpret what I’m saying that way. However, I’m going for a point larger than President Bush or President Obama. I’m not a huge fan of either one, in any case, I’m not protecting one or going after the other.
When people discuss politics, it’s very often we talk past each other and don’t listen to each other’s arguments, instead struggling to justify the opinions we have already formed. When people argue in this way, nothing is gained, and the whole country loses.
This is a perfect example of what I’m talking about. I suspect that there are a few people reading this who would say both that they value the constitution above all else in law, and also that they were not opposed to the constitutional violations of conservatives, such as Guantanamo bay. I would like the reasons to be more than pure partisanship, and I hope it is. So that’s why I ask. Why care about the constitution now, and not before?
I will offer that remaining within the confines of the constitution concerns me in all situations, but this does not strike me as being a clear gross violation, so I’m reserving judgment for now.
Without consistency of values and of argument, these political discussions are nothing more than partisan insult-throwing festivals by brainwashed partisans. And if that’s where we are, there is nothing to be gained by discussion.
bones………What a pleasure reading your post of 9:45 PM.I found it thought provoking and you brought your point into focus especially in the last two paragraphs which I only realize what you were trying to say now.(I hope)
It’s clear to me now that you aren’t so much concerned with Abu Ghraid or Guantanamo Bay but why we try to find arguements to justify our pre-determined opinions? As the article by Nate is laidout we have the opinion of two Washington lawyers who served in the Justice Department of President Reagan and Bush I.They layout their opinion and state precedents of prior cases as proof.Without hearing the flip side of the arguement and NOT HAVING A LAW DEGREE we are left with only one view which you feel isn’t sufficent to base an opinion on.If this is correct I see your point and agree with YOUR OPINION about trying to stay away from “partisan insult throwing festivals”.I don’t believe any of my 7 post in this thread dealt directly with the article but merely with responding to what I thought incorrectly was your equating President Bush with Obama.My apologies.Please let me know if I’m close to target on this.
On a personal note: Do I remeber correctly that you mentioned you were going into the service this SUMMER or is my grey matter turning into grey hair?
I heard Afghanistan war may last 5 to ten years. We certainly need volunteers.
Has anyone noticed that the Healthcare debate has pretty much died with the death of Kennedy?
Last political ploy by the Senator? lol.
Just playin’…. RIP Senator Kennedy.
Bored JD
ABOUT TIME…
Those seriously behind in home payment and can’t get refinanced because they are not qualified (never was) will lose their homes.
Better late than never I suppose.
Next time government, don’t push banks to loan to unqualified buyer, hey Bill Clinton and Frank. Why was this not called FRAKGATE ???
Now wait for junk car program car buyers to lose their cars. OBAMAGATE part 100..
Bill,
Yea because what we really need are for millions to become homeless, that would be excellent. Just as long as they don’t sleep outside of our homes because who wants homeless people picking through your trash cans and sleeping in your backyard? God forbid they wait for you to come outside and ask you for money, ewww. LoL
Entertain yourself. Not here to rid you of boredom
So what are you here for? To uncover the latest scandel? I mean perhaps you are an investigative reporter….
“Democrat: Republicans hate ObamaCare because they’re racists. Also, Castro’s a genius’.posted at 5:13 pm on August 28, 2009 by Allahpundit
CHECK OUT THIS NUT
“Pro-ObamaCare + pro-Castro = one crazy delicious GOP attack ad. The boss has been tracking Diane Watson’s race-baiting for years, but there’s one nuance to this she doesn’t mention: Watson endorsed Clinton over Obama last year, and therefore presumably knows only too well how energized the conservative response to HillaryCare was 15 years ago. How can it be racist to oppose a black president’s program after opposing the same program proposed by a white president? Unclear, but consider this a fresh, exciting addition to our “national conversation on race.”
“Also, I like the way she warns about America becoming a “failed state” if Obama’s agenda doesn’t succeed before praising Cuba in the next breath. Your ideas are intriguing to me, congresswoman, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. Exit question: She’s lifting her talking points here directly from Fidel himself, isn’t she?”
http://hotair.com/archive.....-a-genius/
You got to suspect a Congress woman who can take one sentence that Rush said and can mischaracterize the meaning of Rush speech. It shows she distorts facts. Making her a fraud. Her statement must be questioned for truth.
Bill – “You got to suspect a Congress woman who can take one sentence that Rush said and can mischaracterize the meaning of Rush speech.”
Now that is funny. Rush NEVER distorts facts does he or use sound bite propaganda. Sorry that is like feeling bad for Al Capone for going to jail because of tax evasion. It is called Karma and Rush Gets what he spews out.
You missed the point. I assume you read the link and more than Rush.
Rush said more than he hoped omygod falled. It had been discussed on site and won’t repeat.
The lady was against universal health care under Clinton. For with omygod.
JD
Lady cause me a racisr for being against this bill.
That was point of my posting this.
Any points you wish to make about Rush, follow my example and use links. Then I will read link, consider, and give my opinion to your comment.
Simply bashing Rush without evidece is ‘hear say’.
If ratings are any measure, you hold a minority view of Rush.
Just as I held minority view when obama got elected. Though that has changed..
Oh yes. you did not disprove my quote you used. You simple slanteddistracted by attack on Rush.
I based my comment on fact. Taking one line out of context is wrong. I am sure you agree ???
obama total approval today is 46 %
http://www.rasmussenrepor.....ex_history
Here is article about taking things out of context
“Ad takes most of McCain quotes out of context”
http://www.politifact.com.....ments/566/
Before he was green czar…
Van Jones, President Obama’s “Green Jobs” Czar Calls Congressional Republicans Assholes
http://blackpoliticalthou.....-jobs.html
Surprisingly, he now is recanting
“Obama’s classroom campaign: No junior lobbyist left behind”
“School Indocranation”
By Michelle Malkin
September 2, 2009 05:02 AM
http://michellemalkin.com.....ft-behind/
Gee kids, how can you help obama ??? Because of, as seen indoctrination, causing outrage changes are being made. Another blunder omygod. Parents may keep their children out of school.
omygod is being questioned and by his main street news media ??? About time that it is becoming more common place.
September 02, 2009
“Harry Reid (D-Gutless Coward) Hold Invitation Only, No Questions Allowed “Town Hall”….
“Typical bedwetting liberal afraid of his own shadow”….
http://www.weaselzippers......-hall.html
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“Reid, publisher meet after remark about paper”
By OSKAR GARCIA • Associated Press • September 2, 2009
“I hope you go out of business,” Reid said as he greeted Bob Brown of the Review-Journal, according to the newspaper.”
“Reid then said during his speech at the luncheon that he wants the Review-Journal to keep selling ads because the Las Vegas Sun is delivered along with it under a joint operating agreement.”
“Frederick wrote in a Sunday column that he considered the remarks a “full-on threat,” writing that Reid should serve Nevadans, not “sound like he’s shaking them down.”
“Reid spokesman Tom Brede said Tuesday that Reid wasn’t threatening the Review-Journal.”
“Yes, the senator said those things, but clearly he wasn’t serious,” Brede said. “This was in no way a threat. Sen. Reid doesn’t want to see any Nevadans lose their jobs.”
“Frederick told the Associated Press that he took Reid’s comments seriously because thousands depend on the newspaper for their livelihood. He said Reid is a powerful senator and could punish the Review-Journal economically if he wanted to; he did not elaborate.”
http://www.rgj.com/articl.....20426/1321
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“Democrats Senate Leader Harry Reid in Real Trouble in 2010 Election Bid … Where are Those Obama Coat Tails?”
“Nevadans favored Tarkanian over Reid 49 percent to 38 percent and Lowden over Reid 45 percent to 40 percent, according to the poll.”
http://scaredmonkeys.com/.....oat-tails/
Looking good that what happened to Clinton will happen to omygod. Right Newt…
“Obama and the Perfect Political Storm”
“It’s hard to sell change voters don’t think they need.”
September 3, 2009
By Karl Rove
“August was the worst month of Barack Obama’s presidency. And he seems to know it—he is now planning to deliver a speech to a joint session of Congress 232 days into his administration in a desperate attempt to save his biggest domestic priority, overhauling health care.”
“He has already had the budget-busting $787 billion stimulus package, a budget that doubles the national debt in five years, an earmark-laden appropriations bill that boosted domestic spending nearly 8%, and a cap-and-trade energy tax that limped through the House with dozens of Democratic defections (and which has stalled in the Senate). These achievements are unpopular, so they are boomeranging on him.”
“Mr. Obama’s problems are legion. To start with, the president is focusing on health care when the economy and jobs are nearly everyone’s top issue. Voters increasingly believe Mr. Obama took his eye off the ball.”
“In addition, Mr. Obama is trying to overhaul health care without being able to tap into widespread public unhappiness. Nearly nine out of 10 Americans say they have coverage—and large majorities of them are happy with it. Of the 46 million uninsured, 9.7 million are not U.S. citizens; 17.6 million have annual incomes of more than $50,000; and 14 million already qualify for Medicaid or other programs. That leaves less than five million people truly uncovered out of a population of 307 million. Americans don’t believe this problem—serious but correctable—justifies the radical shift Mr. Obama offers.”
“Moreover, he’s tried to sell it with promises Americans aren’t buying. He says ObamaCare will save money, but American believe it comes with a huge price tag because the Congressional Budget Office has said it will.”
“Workers are also rightly concerned they won’t be able to keep their current coverage. Many businesses will drop their health plans and instead pay a fine equal to 8% of their payroll costs, which is less than what they pay for employee coverage.”
“Families believe they will be pushed into a government plan as the “public option” drives private insurers out of the market.”
“Health-care providers fear they’ll be forced to follow one-size-fits-all guidelines drafted by bureaucrats, instead of making judgments for specific patients.”
“And seniors are afraid of Mr. Obama’s plan to cut $500 billion from Medicare over the next decade, including $177 billion for Medicare Advantage. It’s simply not possible to cut that much from Medicare without also cutting services seniors need.”
“Each of these concerns is energizing opposition among many previously uninvolved voters and political independents. Members of Congress, especially those in closely contested districts, saw this firsthand when they returned home in August.”
“The administration’s problems have been compounded by tactical mistakes. Allowing House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to push for a Democrat-only bill shatters any claim Mr. Obama can make to bipartisanship, a core theme of his candidacy. Leaving the legislation’s drafting to Congress has tied the president’s fortunes to Mrs. Pelosi, who has a 25% approval rating nationwide, and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, whose approval rating is 37% in Nevada.”
“Given the Democratic congressional margins, Mr. Obama has the votes to do it, but at huge costs to him and his party. Legislation that looks anything like the bill moving through the House will contain deeply unpopular provisions—including massive deficit spending, tax hikes and Medicare cuts—and create enormous ill will on Capitol Hill. This will be especially true if Democrats rely on parliamentary tricks to pass a bill in the Senate with 51 votes. The public’s reaction in August showed that the president is creating the conditions for a revolt against his party in the 2010 elections.”
“On the other hand, if Mr. Obama jettisons the public option, he may spark a revolt within his party. The Democratic base is already grumbling and could block a bill if it doesn’t include a public option.”
“Presidents always encounter rough patches. What is unusual is how soon Mr. Obama has hit his. He has used up almost all his goodwill in less than nine months, with the hardest work still ahead. At the year’s start, Democrats were cocky. At summer’s end, concern is giving way to despair. A perfect political storm is amassing, and heading straight for Democrats.”
http://online.wsj.com/art.....42564.html
THIS GUY CAN WRITE. I COULD NOT CUT IT. SO FULL OF FACTS
Obsession
Bored ???
Ken dare not make a logical statement.. He has tired of losing. He’s down to one word. Dunce. Pathic
“Rangel: ‘Prejudice’ Toward Obama Halting Health Care Reform”
“(Another racist throwing a tantrum”
September 03, 2009
http://209.157.64.200/foc.....1148/posts
ADD THIS TO THE LADY DISCUSSED EARLIER HERE
Oh, add guy from New York.
Understand rumbling about some main stream news media have turned raciest …omygod old friends turned racist ???
Are all those who voted against HIM racist ??? Sound like somebody is diseased here.
Soon will people be ‘caned’ for being against obama ???
As HIS polls go down, down, down.
Yes Ken, some people are ossessed. Thank goodness you and I are against this health care bill.
fUNNY MAN JOE DOES IT AGAIN,
“The recovery act has played a significant role in changing the trajectory of our economy, and changing the conversation in this country,” Biden said. “Instead of talking about the beginning of a depression, we are talking about the end of a recession”
“The effectiveness of the two-year program is a matter of sharp political debate, and Biden sought to counter critics with a listing of tangible results.”
This law which Congress was not allowed to read, that were shove ready , now is a 2-year program.
Soon will it be a 3 year. Joe since you know how many jobs was saved__ Prove it Joe. Do something nobody else can do
“Obama’s Council of Economic Advisers on Sept. 10 will report an updated projection of the number of jobs created or saved because of the stimulus plan. Biden said he expected it will back up his predictions of 150,000 jobs in the first 100 days and another 600,000 formed or saved over the second 100 days of the act.”
SURE JOE. As green czar might say, when “Pigs fly”.
“A Gallup poll last month found 51 percent of Americans wished the government would have spent less to stimulate the economy. The same poll found 41 percent thought the stimulus package was helping the economy in the short term; 33 percent saw no effect, and 24 said it was making the economy worse.”
Joe you’ve got a lot of people to convence.
More likely the money Bush spent to save economy, which is 100 % spent, has done more good that omygod what 20 % spent. Plus government has received $11 billion in profit from Bush wise investment in America.
“Public approval of Obama’s performance and of his handling of the economy have slipped. Polls now put both figures slightly above 50 percent.”
More raceist ever day…
http://news.yahoo.com/s/a.....en_economy
Yes, going to have hard road to travel Joe.
Obsession
jd Showing his ability to debate. Of coure, your leader is going down the tube. Question, will HE be bringing America to it’s knees too.
I hear HE has his propagada coming so you can respond
“Report: AFL-CIO Pushes Tax on All Stock Transactions
The AFL-CIO reportedly is promoting a proposal to tax every single stock transaction, and it’s gained some support among Democrats”
“After the federal government put up hundreds of billions of dollars to bail out Wall Street, the largest labor union in America wants those firms to return the favor.”
“The AFL-CIO reportedly is promoting a proposal to tax every single stock transaction, and it’s gained some support among Democrats”
“The gamblers out there, the speculators, I don’t think it’s going to necessarily deter them,” he said. “It’s just another way to raise revenue. It really has no other value.”
http://www.foxnews.com/po.....nsactions/
This won’t tax those making under $ 200 a year.
Economy in the dumps, unemployment in the dumps. Let raise taxes and cut the source of money to all companies by raising this tax.
I have Obsession against destroying America. And I am a racist according to some members of Congress.
I hear omygod is thing of taxing those who comment with one word next.
So what you are saying, Bill, is that you don’t like Obama?
Do I have that correct?
I think I have shown how bad he is for America. That’s what I care about
If you want to debate issues, I can do stocks and discuss. Trying to draw me into some personal thing is boring to me
Another promise broken ??? Say it isn’t soo…
“Geithner, Summers hedge on tax hikesConflict with Obama’s vow”
“Wavering on an emphatic promise he made in the spring, top White House economic adviser Lawrence H. Summers would not rule out middle-class tax increases Sunday as a way for the Obama administration to pay for a sweeping health care plan”
http://www.washingtontime.....tax-hikes/
WHAT A SURPISE…I WANT ILLEGAL TO HAVE HEART TRANSPANTS ??? OKEY YOU SICK PEOPLE CROSS OVER TO AMERICA. WE’LL JUST RAISE TAXES MORE
IF YOU ARE NOT A CONSERVATIVE. WHICH MOST PEOPLE ARE, WE KNEW.
LET’S SEE, MAYBE 37% APPROVAL RATING COMING IN POLLS omygod ???
Obama 2012.
I don’t blame you for not discusing.
Video and quotes proof is hard to defend.
What is to discuss. I thought you were just repeating yourself over and over again.
Poor jd. Lasst time you tried to discuss it came out badly. If I held your position I would make silly remarks too. But then, your bored.
Do you have a quote to back up that position bill? If not then I am inclined to not believe you.
My links migh be 100-1 to yours. You see, I back what I say you blow hot air and are bored
“But most of Biden’s remarks focused on what he argued is evidence of success with the stimulus, even if his examples were questionable.”
“In making the case that the recovery program was not just economically sound but also good policy, Biden noted that transportation money was replacing unsafe bridges.”
“It is worthwhile to take some of those 5,000 bridges out there that are ready to collapse, follow what happened in the upper Midwest, and fix them,” he said.
“But most states are spending stimulus money on bridges that are already in good shape, another AP analysis found. Of the 2,476 bridges scheduled to receive stimulus money so far, nearly half have passed inspections with high marks, according to federal data. Those 1,123 sound bridges received such high inspection ratings that they normally would not qualify for federal bridge money, yet they will share in more than $1.2 billion in stimulus money, the AP analysis published in July found.”
“The vice president’s speech is part of a concerted White House push in advance of the 200th day of the stimulus act on Saturday. Five top administration officials also were speaking about the law’s benefits on Thursday in appearances in Arkansas, Virginia, Illinois, California and Minnesota.”
http://news.yahoo.com/s/a.....fact_check
News media just want give the administration a break. NOW..
This article is nearly to Carl Rove level. Good job…
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“But most states are spending stimulus money on bridges that are already in good shape, another AP analysis found. Of the 2,476 bridges scheduled to receive stimulus money so far, nearly half have passed inspections with high marks, according to federal data. Those 1,123 sound bridges received such high inspection ratings that they normally would not qualify for federal bridge money, yet they will share in more than $1.2 billion in stimulus money, the AP analysis published in July found.”
I think this one paragraph is pressless. Don’t you agree JD..
WITH ALL THOSE BRIDGES READY TO FALL APART
Shovel ready projects….. Biden is so funny…
Now JD, when I first saw the above artice is was 14 minutes old. Like nearly all my links are usually very new.
So try telling the truth jd. Is easiler than not.
JD Sep 3rd, 2009 at 4:30 pm
“What is to discuss. I thought you were just repeating yourself over and over again.”
‘Green Jobs Czar: ‘White Polluters’ Steered Poison Into Minority Communities”
“FROM HIS OWN LIPS”
http://www.thefoxnation.c.....ies?page=1
“gatewaypundit.blogspot.com – 8 hours ago”
“A Truther Czar?… Obama’s Green Czar Van Jones Believes Bush Government was Behind 9-11 — It”
http://beltwayblips.daily....._believes/
JD this guy must be your god. Is this third crazy thing so far on this guy ???
This in schools ?? Surrrre, just don’t pray except to omygod
“Add to favorites Examiner Bio Controversy 101: Why the public protest to the Obama ‘I Pledge’ video? ‘
JD is dated today…
September 3, 12:23 PM
http://www.examiner.com/x.....edge-video
“CNN poll: Majority now oppose ObamaCareposted at 4:”
http://hotair.com/archive.....obamacare/
“Charlie Rangel forgets to disclose $600,000 in income. Should he give up the Ways and Means gavel?”
September 2, 2009 | 9:47 am
http://latimesblogs.latim.....cy_pelosi/
‘Not since the Great Depression’,
or words to that affect, our supreme leader proclaims to his concerned audience. With stern face HE will guide us through.
It’s always best to scare people so economy will get better quicker. Right ??? Well that omygod’s way.
This self-induced sub-prime recession is NOT CLOSE TO GREAT DPRESSION.
He kinda stop saying that. But now that his world is caving in. Announcement of pending total devastation arises again.
The flim flam man is back..
“Great Depression vs. ‘Great Recession”
“Comparisons between this economic recession and the Great Depression are common, but the granddaddy of all downturns was far worse”
http://money.cnn.com/news.....epression/
“Congressman from Michigan spells-out the weakness of National Health Care Bill”
http://www.youtube.com/wa.....r_embedded
“Congressman Rogers Republican from Michigan
is one of the FEW, who read the National Health Care Bill.”
“He says Mr Obama is a LIAR !!!!”
http://www.youtube.com/wa.....A&NR=1
He said liar. I like this guy
Email from my brother..
……….
Terrorists have NO rights
Terrorists Do Not represent a country
Terrorists Do Not wear a uniform
Terrorists Do Not have a flag
This is a war on Terrorists
Terrorists have killed thousands of Americans
in New York, US soldiers, citizens in foreign countries and allied troops.
Terrorists have bombed, beheaded, raped, hanged and tortured our soldiers.
Terrorists ARE NOT protected our laws
Terrorists ARE NOT covered under the Geneva Agreement.
Terrorists Do Not have rights in our courts and
should not be assigned a lawyer paid by taxpayers.
Terrorists have NO rights
Mr Obama, are you listening ???? Hello !!!
Also, illegals entering the US have NO RIGHTS !
illegals are breaking Federal Laws,
the same laws in other countries it is illegal
if you entered Mexico, Canada or any country in the world!
.
You got to like Mike
“Congressman Mike Rogers R-MI”
http://www.youtube.com/wa.....re=channel
Kendale doesnt have a life.
JD doesn’t have a life.
Is anyone else excited about the presentation Obama is giving the schools?
My goodness…This after only 7 1/2 month…Gee whiz
“Does Obama Face a 2012 Challenge In His Own Party?
Friday,”
“Leading liberals are already thinking the unthinkable: Challenging President Obama for the Democratic nomination in 2012.
“Olbermann said the president has “compromised on everything so far and as self-defeating as it may be, the progressive caucus and progressives would abandon him if necessary, if this was to be the policy of this administration into 2012. If it’s necessary to find somebody to run against him, I think they’d do it, no matter how destructive that may seem.””
http://www.rasmussenrepor....._own_party
JD Sep 3rd, 2009 at 3:55 pm
“Obama 2012.”
Maybe not
JD,
What I think is funny is how so many people are boycotting Obama speaking to the children in school. They are making it seem like Obama is looking to program young children and turn them into Hitler’s army. How ridiculous is that? They make it seems as though there Obama is the lone democrat in this country as if other democrats are not on Obama’s side. People are really freaky now-a-days. I mean I know he’s half black but I thought the US was over all that racial stuff. LoL
Yes the omygod spin this week is ‘racist’. Against health care, racist.
Your lack of knowledge as to why people may attend class with kids or keep home that day is apparent.
Such logic as “People are really freaky now-a-days. I mean I know he’s half black but I thought the US was over all that racial stuff. LoL ” is asinine. A person can give list of reason why they don’t like Onama school plan and you throw in race card. Reminds me of stripper incident at Duke University.
A fact you ignore is He has changed his agenda. I suppose that makes him racist as well. Whether HE changed HIS agenda enough to be acceptable has yet to be seen.
I suppose HIS dropping polls is Racist as well.
We know Bush received humanitarian award for saving lives in Africa, in your book, that must be racist ???
I suppose our race should be attached to our handle here, so my remakes could be evaluated as to possible racist overtones.
You jump to conclusions are not really entertaining, but then again, purpose is to fight your boredom.
Street gang thugs kill people for way another looks at them. Your logic is comparable, illogical and harmful.
US troops are not taking any prisoners.
Smart, smart omygod. Let the other guy water-board. That’s O.K ??? Is this morally right ???
Is this morally right ??? Bush informed Congress that our people water-boarded what three people, before it occurred. Obama outsourcers his dirty work. Hides it from the American people.
How deceitful and dishonest can you be !
I though army book interrogation worked ??? You know, please tell us while prisoner drinks his coke
** Nuked **
No profanity please, thanks.
” President of the United States ” agreed with me. He is changing his speech and indoctrination..
No wonder you get so many things wrong, you don’t read entire thing. Can’t take it.
Also this site is open discussion. Live with it or leave.
At least I got rid of your boredom. You need a life to cut the boredom
“OOPS! CHARLIE FORGOT THIS $1M HOUSE”
Last Updated: 2:08 PM, September 2, 2009
“WASHINGTON — Rep. Charles Rangel failed to report as much as $1.3 million in outside income — including up to $1 million for a Harlem building sale — on financial-disclosure forms he filed between 2002 and 2006, according
to newly amended records”
http://www.nypost.com/p/n.....ugv6VnHoDN
Just like that bunny with batteries, he just keeps doing, err going
Connecting omygod to Van Jones and so much more
http://newzeal.blogspot.c.....orsed.html
“Loudon: Weather Alert! Obama’s ‘Green Jobs’ Czar Linked to Former Terrorist Supporters?”
http://therealbarackobama.....upporters/
“Rightbloggers: Blago, Richardson Prove Obama Corrupt, Dems Racist”
http://blogs.villagevoice.....gers_b.php
Me not having a life is a figment of your imagination that is the only reason I tossed that out there. You add nothing to my life outside of maybe adding a rather jagged piece of penut in my poo.
Sorry
Just as you told DDMao yuu were againsr health blll, haha, you said you were going to get a life.haha.
You should do that. You don’t add political comments. Just street thug garabe. You might be happier with site down to yuor level.
So you are on a level above me right?
Sep 5th, 2009 at 9:34 am explained it best in logical and percise way.
You might bother yourself to read it this time.
But glad you’re against the health care bill as you told DDMao.
WHO WOULD OF THOUGHT ???
“Obama ‘green jobs’ adviser quits amid controversy”
” President Barack Obama’s environmental adviser Van Jones, who became embroiled in a controversy over past inflammatory statements, has resigned his White House job after what he calls a “vicious smear campaign against me.”
http://news.yahoo.com/s/a.....er_resigns
I GUESS IF VIDEO TAPE IS ” “vicious smear campaign against me.”, THEN HE’S RIGHT. POOR GUY, CONVICTED ON HIS OWN WORDS ON TAPE.
Why did’t he mention all the tapes ???
I guess the old saying, puttng himself in best ligh possible
NEWS MY BOTHER MAILED ME
Today’s News
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Obama chosen Whitehouse adviser Mr Van Jones resigned.
A long-time radical, liberal, self pro-claimed Communist, why did Obama elect Mr Jones.
…because Obama surrounds himself with people who think like himself
.
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United States Ambassadors to foreign countries
Yesterday, NPR [ National Public Radio ] reported, that
Obama has elected ‘many’ of his campaign fund raisers / supporters during his 2008 president campaign
to become United States Ambassadors.
These people elected as our Ambassadors ARE NOT people
do not have background experience, college educated towards government, nor towards working with foreign countries.
Does this tell you anything about Obama.
.
There are more vacant US Ambassadors to be filled
.
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Obama’s speech to public school children has been altered
eliminating clauses that parents object as Obama’s ideology.
Many voters do not trust Obama, his behavior, his beliefs
.
.
What has Obama done right since he has been President??
Either Obama is going to destroy American’s
laws, government, life-style, morals, religion, family,
or
he will destroy himself
With the support of the liberal Democrats in Congress,
they have 3 1/2 years more of agony…….
.
.
“President Obama Finances Offshore Drilling in Brazil”
http://beltwayblips.daily.....in_brazil/
You think those enviomental laws of ours apply in Brazil. I guess..Not. Since ‘our leader’ like pay backs, his pockets will be lined.
Not good to out source jobs unless your’re omams. Where did this money come from ?
There is so much bad stuff to say about omygod the bunny with batteries that keeps on going is adding solar panels…
If you thought Bush was bad, orobmeblind,beter known as ohiliethroughmyteeth,
Keeps taking bites out of America.
There is one thing, even about Fox, I don’t like about hour long nes commentaries. Too short of time with guess and too light treatment. In name of wanting guess to return. Best example was Frank. Bill soft balled Frank.
Even with soft balled, which is hard balled compared to compitition, here email from my Brother:
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MORE of TODAY’S NEWS
.
.
VAN JONES RESIGNS FROM OBAMA’s Staff
As of Sunday morning, Fox TV was the ONLY network
reporting Van Jones Resignation.
In other words, the liberal TV networks:
NBC, MSNBC, ABC, CBS DID NOT REPORT his resignation.
.
.
OBAMA will not interview on FOX
Also, at some government events, Obama refused Fox reporters to attend
Have you seen a Fox reporter traveling on AIR FORCE ONE ???
.
Fox is the Number One rated by the polls
Year-after-year, Bill Oreilly TV program on Fox, is the Number One TV program rated by the polls
.
Where do you trust to get non-bias NEWS
.
FLIP FLOP, FLIP PLOP, WHAT IS OMABA SAYING. WELL DEPENDS ON WHERE THE SECOND HAND IS.
Whatever obama is saying now, it’s changeS and not to your better…
Remember the old pHrase: ‘NO NEW TAXES FOR THOSES MANKING LESS THAN $250,000′. That stopped BusH #1 from having two terms, remember ‘no new taxes.’
You’ll love this:
“Bottom line on public insurance plan gets blurry”
By RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR, Associated Press Writer Ricardo Alonso-zaldivar, Associated Press Writer – 14 mins ago
“WASHINGTON – The Obama administration’s bottom line on a government health insurance option blurred Sunday as White House officials stressed support but stopped short of calling it a must-have part of an overhaul.”
http://news.yahoo.com/s/a.....e_overhaul
This guy is ridng so many fences at the same time. He’s going to end up like Humpty Dumpty…
Aug. 7 Nate wrote
“Damn these politicians who wish to stifle questions and wish to hear no dissent on health care.”
I wonder if Nate dreamed ‘racist’ card would be used to try and shut down negative comments 30 days ago ???
“Hope springs eternal in the human breast;
Man never Is, but always To be blest:
The soul, uneasy and confin’d from home,
Rests and expatiates in a life to come.”
-Alexander Pope,
An Essay on Man, Epistle I, 1733
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Email from Brother
TODAY’S NEWS
.
It’s Labor Day; Mr Obama attends AFL CIO Union Picnic in Ohio,
the largest union picnic in the US
.
NEVER DONE BY A US PRESIDENT
Obama gave FREE 17% share of car makers GM & Chrysler worth millions of stocks.
This gift assures the union members will continue to vote Democrat
Taxpayers will pay for the millions of stock given to the AFL CIO Union.
Taxpayers did not contest this gift to the union.
Surely the union will thank Mr Obama for giving the union.
Obama gave billions of dollars taxpayers money to bailed-out the two car makers a few months ago.
This supported the union members.
It’s unlikely the car makers will not payback this loan
OBAMA IS SOOOOOO GENEROUS
Obama is sooooo generous as part of the recent Stimulus Plan,
taxpayers’ money was given to ACORN to support the Democrat Party and the next elections
and he gave millions of stock to the AFL CIO Union.
Aren’t we sooooo fortune to have Obama as President.
And to the College Children, ACORN and Catholics
(millions of Catholics didn’t listen to their Priest, who vote for Obama & support his abortion agenda)
it was your votes who elected, Obama would be Mr President.
And those millions of Pro-Liberal College Children, you are sooooo smart !!
And to all of YOU who are young and eager to vote and work for the Democrats,
you will pay dearly on the ‘highest’ National Debt ever in US History.
$9-Trillion Dollars and climbing ( 3 1/2 yrs of Obama spending spree!! )
College Children, you will pay higher taxes due to your votes and for 30-years
your taxes will be increase to pay for the current debt.
….as I near my retirement and draw Social Security and watch American be destroyed.
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Polls shows the dissatifation Of Americans. Total approval today of 48 %, down from high of 65 %. Perhaps fastest drop in our history.
He now must change his agend, but will coninue to hide in the shallows his true intentions.
Compaisions to Hitler become more and more striking…
Corroption more defined
http://www.rasmussenrepor.....ex_history
“It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace– but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have?”
—IMPORTANT PART—Should be our creed
Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!”
Patrick Henry, March 23, 1775.
As great as our system is, it can be made better. Obama’s way chains and inevitable destroys our way of life.
Americans are rebelling. Numbers are growing.
By peaceful and legal resolve, we shall quench our need for freedom and cast out dominance oppression.
“THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE”
WASHINGTON (AP) — “President Barack Obama is tapping a member of his auto industry task force to advise him on manufacturing.”
http://news.yahoo.com/s/a....._labor_day
At a union holiday event, omyunion president make anouncmemt of yet another czar. Shall this be anothter green czar ??? I think so. Unioizing whthout reguard is obviously his goal. For the good of Ameerica, the cover story…
I shall follow Newton’s Third Law of Motion:
III. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.
http://csep10.phys.utk.ed.....3laws.html
……….
“There is no law of progress. Our future is in our own hands, to make or to mar. It will be an uphill fight to the end, and would we have it otherwise? Let no one suppose that evolution will ever exempt us from struggle. “You forget,” said the Devil, with a chuckle, “that I have been evolving too.””
Dean Inge
Prez barks at the kids today. Had to change it.
http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo......p;src=news
When Daddy Bush talked at school he talk about school.
Even in obama updated speech he still has to push his agenda.
Class is so easy to spot…
Email from my Brother
……………………………………………..
You Won’t Believe this…..
DOES NOT END with Obama’s today speech to children in public schools
Whitehouse instructions has been sent to all teachers for the teachers tell
students what some call “Obama’s Hero Worshiping” Propaganda ….
Yep, children watch his speech, then, teachers speak to the children on the
written information given to reinforce his speech
.
I couldn’t agree more. When did the office of the president turn into a bad example for kids? What kid doesn’t say that he or she wouldn’t like to be a president? I think it is right up there with being an astronaut.
I personally think it is hilarious that these Idiot parents are throwing such a fit and then let their kids tune into MTV to watch the latest Paris Hilton or what ever else of a bad role models speak to them.
It is pure partisanship. Conservatives are worried that a Democratic President is talking to their kids and convincing them to vote Blue. Proving that those parents are just as ignorant of the world as their kids.
These people are believe and worry that no one should tell their kids how to vote but them. Gotta love it. “I should be free to teach my kid to hate the president because he isn’t of the same party as mommy and daddy”…
Sorry, this whole thing is stupid and proves that Conservatives have lost touch and live on raw emotion with a heavy spoon full of speculation and conspiracy.
Instead of the discussing issues why parents are against, you talk about MTV.
Just a silly little comment with no factual bases jd.
Condemn their reasons not your fabricated mirage. Back up your case against their reason.
Don’t be a miscompute.
Obama changed his speech to conform more with Father Bush when speaking to youth in school. Less political exotericisms and more concern for youth education inspiration.
Obama is capable of behaving himself.
His lack of experience abounds.
“By Suzanne Guggenheim on September 05th, 2009
Charles Krauthammer – Obama’s Magic Evaporates in the Heat of the Health-Reform Debate”
http://www.thewoodlandste.....rm-debate/
“LIBERAL LIES ABOUT NATIONAL HEALTH CARE: THIRD IN A SERIES (COMMEMORATIVE PLATES ON SALE NOW!)”
http://www.anncoulter.com/
JD,
Amen
What a pathetic extreme display of obamaite loyalty. Even after HE himself abandoned His own propaganda, you persist in His defense.
It not that his intention are unknown. Material was given out. There was factual evidence to support the allegations. But you two clog hopper don‘t read up on the issues. Instead playing the same old liberal switch and bait. Degrade the opponents of Him by calling them crazy and using non-related examples.
There is a reason liberal have few links and Conservative outnumber many link many time over. Liberals here are notable for one line shots. How many times must I har Bush did it trying to give omygod creditability.
The late Teddy is perfect example of linearism. Liberal view are notorious for practicing self serving ideology. Teddy stopped alternative mills near his home. Fear he could see with his telescope.
Polls are falling and discontent is becoming more pronounced. Our liberals here comment are getting frantically erratic. You guys must ignore near all comment because you have no rebuttal.
If our Nation’s future was not at stake, I would have empathy and feel sorry for Twiddle Dee and Twiddle Dumb.
What a waste of time Bill. LoL You’re hilarious, thanks man
I needed that
Such eloquence yet mundane
Email from my Brother..
In remembrance of Ken…
from Wikipedia, the institute Obama attended before he became President
The information below is found from Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
for more information, click
http://en.wikipedia.org/w.....ul_Alinsky
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Organizing For Mass Power – “Rules for Radicals”
founded by Saul Alinsky – His school is located in Chicago IL
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http://en.wikipedia.org/w.....ul_Alinsky states:
The documentary The Democratic Promise: Saul Alinsky and His Legacy,[5]
claims that “Alinsky championed new ways to organize the poor and powerless that created a backyard revolution in cities across America.”
the answer is what is called the low class / low medium class people operated organizations are called ACORN and the unions
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http://en.wikipedia.org/w.....ul_Alinsky states:
Hillary Clinton writes her thesis on Saul Alinsky theory of Organizing For Mass Power – “Rules for Radicals”
In Hillary Clinton’s senior honors thesis at Wellesley College, Clinton noted that Alinsky’s personal efforts were a large part of his method.[8]
She later noted that although she agreed with his notion of self-empowernment she disagreed with his assessment that the system could only change from the outside.[8]
In her memoir, Living History, Hillary Clinton wrote that Alinsky offered her a job after she graduated from Wellesley College, but she chose instead to attend Yale Law School.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/w.....ul_Alinsky states:
Obama attended his school
Alinsky’s teachings influenced Barack Obama in his early career as a community organizer on the far South Side of Chicago.[7][8]
Working for Gerald Kellman’s Developing Communities Project, Obama learned and taught Alinsky’s methods for community organizing.[7]
Several prominent national leaders have been influenced by Alinsky’s teachings,[7]
including Ed Chambers,[5] Tom Gaudette, Michael Gecan, Wade Rathke,[9][10] Patrick Crowley,[11] and Barack Obama.[12]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/w.....ul_Alinsky states:
Alinsky is often credited with laying the foundation for the grassroots political organizing that dominated the 1960s.[5]
Later in his life he encouraged stockholders in public corporations to lend their votes to “proxies”,
who would vote at annual stockholders meetings in favor of social justice.
While his grassroots style took hold in American activism, his call to stockholders to share their power with
disenfranchised working poor only began to take hold in U.S. progressive (social liberalism)
circles in the 1990s, when shareholder actions were organized against American corporations.
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Email from my Brother
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Why California is broke
If you think this example is absurd, just check out the California state budget deficit $24 billion!
And the people who protect & hire illegals think they are saving money!!
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Here is an example of why hiring illegal aliens is not economically productive for the State of California.
You have 2 families: “Joe Legal” and “Jose Illegal”.
Both families have 2 parents, 2 children and live in California.
“Joe Legal” works in construction, has a Social Security Number, and makes $25/hour with payroll taxes deducted.
“Jose Illegal” also works in construction, has no Social Security Number, and gets paid $15/hour cash “under the table”..
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Joe Legal: $25/hour x 40 hours = $1,000/week, $52,000/year
Now take 30% away for state and federal tax.
Joe Legal now has $31,231.
Jose Illegal: $15/hour x 40 hours = $600/week, $31,200/year
Jose Illegal pays no taxes.
Jose Illegal now has $31,200.
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Joe Legal pays Medical and Dental Insurance with limited coverage: $1,000/month, $12,000/year
Joe Legal now has $19,231.
Jose Illegal has full Medical and Dental coverage through the state and local clinics at a cost of $0 per year
Jose Illegal still has $31,200.
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Joe Legal makes too much money and is not eligible for Food Stamps or welfare
Joe Legal pays for food: $1,000/month, $12,000/year
Joe Legal now has $ 7,231.00
Jose Illegal has no documented income and is eligible for Food Stamps and Welfare.
Jose Illegal still has $31,200.
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Joe Legal pays rent: $1,000/month, $12,000/year
Joe Legal is now in the hole: minus (-) $4,769.
Jose Illegal receives a $500/month Federal rent subsidy.
Jose Illegal pays rent: $500/month (section 8 housing), 6,000/per year
Jose Illegal still has $25,200.
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Joe Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job after work.
Jose Illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family (and eat out!).
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Joe Legal’s and Jose Illegal’s children both attend the same school. Joe Legal pays for his children’s lunches while Jose Illegal’s children get a government sponsored breakfast and lunch, and they also qualify to be “bussed to school” at taxpayer expense.
Email from my Brother
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IF THIS DOES NOT TAKE YOUR BREATH, THEN, YOU ARE A DEMOCRAT
Here are more factual news you will not see on MSNBC, NBC, ABC, CBS and maybe CNN
Obama is so arrogant, he does it in front of you weekly
OBAMA PAYS BACK GOOD FRIEND GEORGE SOROS
Putting it mildly,
GEORGE SOROS is a billionaire who funds Obama presidential campaign and the VERY MOST LIBERAL DEMOCRAT in the planet Earth.
GEORGE SOROS owns millions of dollars of stock int Petrobras Oil Company
Let’s continue….
The Obama administration through the US Export Bank just guaranteed 10-Billion dollars in loans to Brazalian Government-Owned Oil Giant “Petrobras” for drilling.
Now remember Obama & Democrats will not allow drilling in our own country, including offshore of US & Alaska, but we just guaranteed 10-Billion dollars in loans for a Brazalian oil company… but wait it gets better… when you ask why we would do this….
Well it seems that Obama’s good friend and buddy… and democratic supporter George Soros just increased his holdings in this company before the loan was guaranteed….
YES FOLKS GEORGE SOROS OWNS OVER 10 MILLION SHARES OF THIS COMPANY AND IT IS ONE OF HIS TOP 5 HOLDINGS.
AND WHY THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION CAN NOT DO ENOUGH FOR THEIR SUPPORTERS.
WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS DESTROYING THE US AND HELPING THOSE WHO HELP THEM GET RICHER…..
SEE FULL ARTICLE BELOW.!!!!
http://beltwayblips.daily....._in_brazil
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President Obama Finances Offshore Drilling in Brazil
You read that headline correctly.
Unfortunately, the Obama Administration is financing oil exploration off Brazil.
The U.S. is going to lend billions of dollars to Brazil’s state-owned oil company, Petrobras, to finance exploration of the huge offshore discovery in Brazil’s Tupi oil field in
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http://online.wsj.com/art.....24166.html
the Obama Administration is financing oil exploration off Brazil.
The U.S. is going to lend billions of dollars to Brazil’s state-owned oil company, Petrobras, to finance exploration of the huge offshore discovery in Brazil’s Tupi oil field in the Santos Basin near Rio de Janeiro. Brazil’s planning minister confirmed that White House National Security Adviser James Jones met this month with Brazilian officials to talk about the loan.
The U.S. Export-Import Bank tells us it has issued a “preliminary commitment” letter to Petrobras in the amount of $2 billion and has discussed with Brazil the possibility of increasing that amount. Ex-Im Bank says it has not decided whether the money will come in the form of a direct loan or loan guarantees. Either way, this corporate foreign aid may strike some readers as odd, given that the U.S. Treasury seems desperate for cash and Petrobras is one of the largest corporations in the Americas.
But look on the bright side. If President Obama has embraced offshore drilling in Brazil, why not in the old U.S.A.? The land of the sorta free and the home of the heavily indebted has enormous offshore oil deposits, and last year ahead of the November elections, with gasoline at $4 a gallon, Congress let a ban on offshore drilling expire.
The Bush Administration’s five-year plan (2007-2012) to open the outer continental shelf to oil exploration included new lease sales in the Gulf of Mexico. But in 2007 environmentalists went to court to block drilling in Alaska and in April a federal court ruled in their favor. In May, Interior Secretary Ken Salazar said his department was unsure whether that ruling applied only to Alaska or all offshore drilling. So it asked an appeals court for clarification. Late last month the court said the earlier decision applied only to Alaska, opening the way for the sale of leases in the Gulf. Mr. Salazar now says the sales will go forward on August 19.
This is progress, however slow. But it still doesn’t allow the U.S. to explore in Alaska or along the East and West Coasts, which could be our equivalent of the Tupi oil fields, which are set to make Brazil a leading oil exporter. Americans are right to wonder why Mr. Obama is underwriting in Brazil what he won’t allow at home.
I have never purchased health insurance and pay out of pocket for my medical care, most of which are not covered or has such a high copay that I am way better off. So far I am happy with my choice. To those who say it is not fair that I do not “pay into the system” for when I may need it. I say; I don’t buy into the pyramid mentality that I owe the system something. I take good care of myself, and save for a rainy day. At some point if I get insurance that should be my choice. The government can not execute medicare with out billions in waste and fraud. Now they want to add even more zeroes to that figure? They must be in bed with insurance, if they really wanted to get people in need, medical access, they could give the equivilant of food stamps for medical services to those who qualify. Unlike many who now receive benefits, they should be ‘really” qualified and be alive for one thing. Billions are being paid to people who are DEAD! Millions in prescriptions from Doctors who are DEAD. It goes on and on (and so have I, sorry). Wake up koolaid drinkers, you will be sooooo sorry if this beast passes!