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It’s no surprise, as unemployment continues to rise, that public confidence in wasteful government spending which promised to lower unemployment is waning as people realize that the government can’t solve their problems by going further into debt.
The WaPo reports:
Barely half of Americans are now confident that President Obama’s $787 billion stimulus measure will boost the economy, and the rapid rise in optimism about the state of the nation that followed the 2008 election has abated, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll.
Overall, 52 percent now say the stimulus package has succeeded or will succeed in restoring the economy, compared with 59 percent two months ago. The falloff in confidence has been sharpest in the hard-hit Midwest, where fewer than half now see the government spending as succeeding. In April, six in 10 Midwesterners said the federal program had worked or would do so.
Two weak points on the domestic front remain: Obama still gets tepid marks on his handling of problems facing the big U.S. automakers, and as many people disapprove as approve of his handling of the federal budget deficit. On the deficit, intensity runs against the president, with 35 percent “strongly” disapproving, compared with 22 percent who say they are solidly behind his efforts.
More broadly, worries about the deficit remain widespread, with almost nine in 10 Americans saying they are “very” or “somewhat” concerned about its size.
One factor that continues to work for Obama, however, is that most Americans still see him as a new type of Democrat, one “who will be careful with the public’s money,” rather than an old-style, “tax-and-spend Democrat.” By this point in 1993, Clinton had lost the new-style label, which he had maintained over the first months of his presidency.
Clearly that stigma of being “careful with the public’s money” will die off once more people wake up to the nearly $2 trillion deficit which is a direct result of Obama’s government stimulus. When the government grows, the private sector shrinks which is terribly for American wealth and job growth.
More on this topic from Hot Air discussing how the “blame Bush” defense will only take Obama so far:
The biggest factor may be the unemployment report in early June that showed joblessness rising much faster than Obama’s team had predicted, even without a $787 billion stimulus bill. If so, then we can expect a major shift when unemployment crosses the double-digit threshold, as even Obama predicts it will this year. We can call that the expiration date for blaming Bush, and the moment when the economy becomes Obama’s fault, as his expensive and expansive policies fail to arrest the economic decline.
The crosstabs, as always, show some interesting motion. Majorities of both whites and blacks blame Bush, but a majority of “Others” (primarily Asians and Hispanics) blame Obama, 54%-43%. Independents split on the question, 48%-46%, leaning towards blaming Obama, a big problem if that moves towards a majority. Democrats and Republicans have predictable splits, as do conservatives and liberals, but the most interesting split comes in the Political Class demographics. Without leaners, a plurality of self-described “mainstream” people blame Obama, while 100% of the self-professed political class blame Bush.
Nor does it look good for the future of Obama’s economic policy. This question had less to do with the current crisis and more to do with Obama’s policies for reversing it. A large majority believes they know better than Obama about economic issues, 60%-30%. That holds true in almost every demographic category, with a few notable exceptions. Blacks trust Obama more than themselves, 72%-21%, and liberals by 54%-30%, but Democrats can’t even get a majority for that position, 48%-37%. Independents trust themselves more than Obama by a whopping 76%-19%, almost identical to Republicans. A majority of higher-income workers (between $60-100K) blame Obama; the under-$20K demographic, which one could expect to be loyal to Obama, trust themselves more than Obama’s economic leadership, 49%-39%.
Obama only has a few weeks at most to keep using the “inherited from my predecessor” defense, if that. The next joblessness report comes out in early July, and it will probably spell an end to that defense, as well as support for Obamanomics in general.
Over time as more people realize that their hopes and dreams haven’t been answered by the promised hope and change, these numbers will wilt more as Obama is given more responsibility for his failures by the public.
The numbers are already far short of the White House’s own estimates which said Obama’s stimulus would “create or save” millions of jobs, that was a lie.
I’ll let President Obama’s numbers do the talking:
Anyone with half a brain called it from the beginning that pouring billions into liberal special interest projects would do nothing for the economy and job creation. Instead of taking a free-market approach and letting the private sector create jobs, the President has wasted billions of dollars on projects which have had no measurable affect on the economy whatsoever, despite his estimates and claims to the contrary.
How can anyone believe White House estimates from this point forward? People are still harping about WMDs but they’re the same people now defending President Obama’s fuzzy, non-existent math.
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nice analysis, where did you get the unemployment graph from? It really shows transparency.
This is what I have been waiting for, for his poll numbers to start dropping. I’m breathing a little easier today knowing that people are starting to wake up!
So we are suppose to be excited about polls showing a trend towards people not believing in a stimulus package?
We are supposed to be excited when people stop blaming Bush for economic problems and unemployment and start blaming Obama for unemployment?
I’m not sure how this is supposed to start making people happy.
Perhaps I would be happy if people started introducing government to ways to battle the economic problems and unemployment and start seeing some of these ideas going into play and starting a trend to a better economic state in America and decreased unemployment.
There is nothing fresh and exciting about failure. Unless perhaps you’re watching your favorite sports team winning against their rival. Even then, you are excited about your teams success, not necessarily the failure of the other team.
Also, a government that allows it’s president to implement poor ideas is a government that is implementing poor ideas. Again, it takes more than one human being to do what you say is bad for American. The president does not have free reign to do as he pleases with government, the government has to be behind him, or at least a majority of them have to be behind him, right?
Perhaps the American people can speak with, write to, protest, throw ideas at their elected officials, and we can see positive trends in the economy and employment.
Is not the power of the people the power of their ability to elect their representatives in government? Perhaps that was the failure, or trick, that the government played on the American people when it was founded.
“Let’s tell the people that the power is in the people, not in the government. Tell them by electing their own government officials, the the government works for them.” Yet it appears it does not matter that the people elect the officials because the officials will do what they want, once elected, no matter what the say they will due during their campaign. And this does not mean, only Obama, it means the rest of the government officials as well.
Kendale
“So we are suppose to be excited about polls showing a trend towards people not believing in a stimulus package?”
Yes. Very little of Obama’s rushed stimulus money has been spent except for Financial institutions. Hopefully we can stop the crushing majority of debt.
“We are supposed to be excited when people stop blaming Bush for economic problems and unemployment and start blaming Obama for unemployment?”
Yes. Obama’s mis-directing blame on Bush needs to stop.
“I’m not sure how this is supposed to start making people happy.”
It makes people happy when President takes responsibility for his actions.
“Perhaps I would be happy if people started introducing government to ways to battle the economic problems and unemployment and start seeing some of these ideas going into play and starting a trend to a better economic state in America and decreased unemployment”
As Reagan and John F. Kennedy proved, tax cuts raises revenues for government. By expanding businesses and employing people. Smaller government is also part of the equations.
“Also, a government that allows it’s president to implement poor ideas is a government that is implementing poor ideas. Again, it takes more than one human being to do what you say is bad for American. The president does not have free reign to do as he pleases with government, the government has to be behind him, or at least a majority of them have to be behind him, right?”
You have forgotten the outrage citizens sounded off to for some of Obama’s then bills. It is hopeful that health care will not pass as well as energy increases.
“Perhaps the American people can speak with, write to, protest, throw ideas at their elected officials, and we can see positive trends in the economy and employment.”
That happened and Nate went and wrote about it. 4th of July should be repeat.
“Is not the power of the people the power of their ability to elect their representatives in government? Perhaps that was the failure, or trick, that the government played on the American people when it was founded.”
Bill Clinton and Obama both were elected because of economy. Bill was put in his place by Repblican majority being elected to Congress., so I believe will Obama.
““Let’s tell the people that the power is in the people, not in the government. Tell them by electing their own government officials, the the government works for them.” Yet it appears it does not matter that the people elect the officials because the officials will do what they want, once elected, no matter what the say they will due during their campaign. And this does not mean, only Obama, it means the rest of the government officials as well.”
WHO can forget Obama and Joe the Plumber. You are right it not just Obama and Democrats. Includes Republicans as well.
Kendale
“I’m not sure how this is supposed to start making people happy.”
It’s not. It’s supposed to make them unhappy. If you are trying to get people to change their minds and start working on your side you don’t want them to be happy. You want them upset and angry with your opposition.
“Perhaps I would be happy if people started introducing government to ways to battle the economic problems and unemployment and start seeing some of these ideas going into play”
This statement is painful. When something complicated is in a precarious state you don’t meddle with it, because, unless you are a competent expert you are going to damage it further. What we need to do is listen to the people who know how to manage large scale economic structures, and have a record of doing so very competently.
Let’s just hope that economic specialist living in the United States sees the horrible job that government is doing and start working on educating government on ways to bounce back.
John F. Kennedy lowered taxes and revenue jumped 33 % in real dollars from 1961 to 1968. Reeason, business trived and employment increased. Smaller government is in equation as well.
Reagan low taxes caused longest bull market.
Bill,
I can totally grasp that lowering taxes would put more money in the hands of consumers which in turn would lead to more spending and how that would help businesses to thrive.
I can also grasp that by creating government programs that they believe will help citizens leads to the need for more money to fund these programs which leads to higher taxes, less money in the pockets of citizens, less spending, businesses not thriving as much.
One way or another, someone loses.
Kendale
“I can totally grasp that lowering taxes would put more money in the hands of consumers which in turn would lead to more spending and how that would help businesses to thrive.”
No, you are thinking Obama economics. Lowering business taxes. They are ones who hire.According to Ruch we have the second highest business ta in modern, civilized world.
“I can also grasp that by creating government programs that they believe will help citizens leads to the need for more money to fund these programs which leads to higher taxes, less money in the pockets of citizens, less spending, businesses not thriving as much”
Yes
“One way or another, someone loses”
No, by lowering business tax, revenues actually increases and raises employment. Ading smaller government, which is part of this, more money is in circulation.
If you noticed, housing rate is rising because of government spending, which leads to less house buying.
If our business tax was the lowest on earth, would all businesses offer employee health insurance, or would people who buy into insurance on their own be more capable of affording it?
Kendale
Government could lower liability insurance by tightening lawsuites. That would go long way in lowering cost. Large portion of uninsured are illegals,they can go home to get insurance. Many won’t get insurance because they don’t want to pay. Others qualify for medicare but do not sign up.
Drug companies did agree to lower prices and I give Obama credit for that.
I don’t know about all. As college person you should know “all” is usually never true. Even Obama plan will not insure like 36 million.
I just feel as though and US citizen without medical insurance should not be a true statement.
With all the opportunity that the US is supposed to have, we should not have people without insurance. I would love to see a poll like this:
How many US born citizens, who work full time, or work part time and are full time college students, who can not get insurance through their employer, and can not afford to buy their own insurance. I bet it would be shocking.
People without medical insurance causes problems for not only the uninsured person, but the people who flip the bill for their hospital stays.
I believe you when you say many people who qualify for medicare do not sign up, but why, could it be that they don’t know this. There are also many people who need medicare but it takes them years to get it, through litigation. It’s sad to see someone who is physically or mentally not capable of employment and can not get medicaid.
What ever the case may be, I feel all US citizens should have health insurance and should be educated on how to be a healthy citizen.
I believe that people should be able to make healthy visits to their physician for physicals and consultation. By consultation I mean simply sitting down the their Doc to analyze their habits that effect their help, and advice on how not to make a sick visit, including vaccinations.
Unhealthy people makes for nonproductive citizens that we in turn have to pay to take care of, instead of them being productive, taking care of themselves, and being stimulants for a healthy economy.
I’d like to see some of that war on terror money go on a war against obesity, and other preventable health issues. This is why I posted the link to the legislature on the tobacco issue.
I understand that tobacco have the right to produce a product and make money on it, but if you look at it from a standpoint of our tax dollars paying for the side effects of smoking, we’re on a whole new ballpark, right?
“I just feel as though and US citizen without medical insurance should not be a true statement”
When I worked at hospital, fellow employees choice not to be covered.
“How many US born citizens, who work full time, or work part time and are full time college students, who can not get insurance through their employer, and can not afford to buy their own insurance. I bet it would be shocking”
Well if that made good choices they could have coverage. Drive a old car instead of new, etc.. It may shock you how people spend their money and put coverage at bottom of priority.
“People without medical insurance causes problems for not only the uninsured person, but the people who flip the bill for their hospital stays”
Giving them free insurance when end up with higher bills.
“I believe you when you say many people who qualify for medicare do not sign up, but why, could it be that they don’t know this. There are also many people who need medicare but it takes them years to get it, through litigation. It’s sad to see someone who is physically or mentally not capable of employment and can not get medicaid.”
I said medicare. Medicaid is State and different requirement to get.
“What ever the case may be, I feel all US citizens should have health insurance and should be educated on how to be a healthy citizen”
Obama’s plan disagrees with you. By like 36 million.
“I’d like to see some of that war on terror money go on a war against obesity, and other preventable health issues. This is why I posted the link to the legislature on the tobacco issue.”
Why not dismantle our armed forces and use for health too. We don’t need that either. You must have missed terror attacks that was stopped under Bush.
“I understand that tobacco have the right to produce a product and make money on it, but if you look at it from a standpoint of our tax dollars paying for the side effects of smoking, we’re on a whole new ballpark, right”
Why don’t you look up how much in taxes come from cigs. I doubt there is anything more taxed than they are. If it is soo bad, outlaw it. I will go in woods and smoke a weed. I can make my own paper as well. There is a reason they don’t outlaw cigs. Big tax. They don’t legalize grass because it is a weed. I can find it in any woods in Missouri. As far as that goes, I can grow tobacco and make my own paper. Thus no taxes.
Saying how bad it is means little. Next chocolate, sugar, McDonalds, empty calories, fried food, etc.. Where does it end. Who decides. You.. Are you big brother…
You took what I said, and blow it up into something completely different, perhaps you’re sleepy. I’ll refrain from further comments until tomorrow afternoon. Right now it seems like the sole purpose of your response it to create an apposing statement for each statement I made.
P.S. This is a neat little video, and there are many others.
Ron Paul Vs Ben Bernacke
http://www.youtube.com/wa.....cYWl47pFhI
Perhaps Ron Paul is someone that can help us with our economic crisis.
This figure of “46 million uninsured”that is thrown around is very misleading but thats what happens when you try to ramrod legislation through without Congress reading it and strictly on FEAR…..does the stimulus sound familiar? For a more accurate breakdown see:
http://www.keithhennessey.....taxpayers/
The 46 million number is junk. It includes millions of illegal aliens and millions of people who are between jobs, etc.. Some of the 46 million are temporarily without health insurance for one reason or another. A lot of them are young people in college, for example, just starting out who lack health insurance.
Plus, that isn’t 46 million who lack health care, there is a difference. I don’t have insurance, yet I have health care.
The real number is somewhere like 8 million who do not have health insurance for 12 months or longer.
http://smartgirlnation.co.....n-america/
Exactly what my link states Nate.And the system covering 253 million is going to be shitcanned for 8 million?
But hey OUR SUPREME LEADER says its a crisis and it needs to get done by October …….Hmmmm sounds very similiar to the stimulus crisis that needed to get passed WITHOUT CONGRESS READING IT and then sitting on his desk for three days!
Right DD, the liberal view of health care is not to lift those 8 million up into the private system, it’s to make everyone else’s care worse so we all have equally bad care.
It is the same rationale used for ending the DC voucher program. Liberals do not believe in lifting people up, they believe in tearing everyone down to the same “fair” level in life.
In which case, we all get worse education and worse health care in the name of fairness.
Everything is called a crisis if they can install new liberal government spending, programs and policies as a result of it.
I’m not endorseing his program it’s mearly to point out that Republicans are putting plans out there and not just opposing the Presidents plan.
Rep.Paul Ryan (R-Wisc)on President Obamas Health Care Plan can be found at:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/15.....1162335160
Rep. Paul Ryan Health Care Plan can be found at:
http://www.house.gov/ryan/pca/index.htm
I am not sure who is considered a reliable source when it comes to placing a number on how many people in the United States is living without health care. What I do see is how many people come into my hospital without insurance, growing up without insurance, and the people in my own neighborhood being without insurance.
I see jobs such as food service industry job who either do not offer medical benefits or whose medical benefits are so sub par that they do not actually cover what is necessary.
I am not making a defense for anyones idea, just stating that I do not know who to believe on a number for the total Americans without health insurance and noticing a striking number of individuals that I see in my hospital coming in without it, and the many people I have worked with in jobs who do not offer it.
From what I see in Saint Petersburg, Florida. It is a REAL problem. Also getting medicaid/medicare has been very difficult for many people that I see in the hospital that need to go home with home health care after having substantial trauma injuries and those who have gotten infectious diseases that need long term home health care. These people end up not being able to go home, and thus have to remain in the hospital a great deal longer than what is expected if they had a way to pay for home health care.
I understand there is medicaid/medicare available, but for some reason social services in my county are having too hard of a job getting these benefits to patients who truly need them. Especially for trauma patients who end up loosing their job due to injury. (yes their are programs like FMLA, the family medical leave act, but that is only a temporary fix for keeping your job) Plus some of these people sustain injuries that leave them unable to preform their jobs any longer, or leave them in rehab for a great deal of time.
While the government is attempting to reform health care there are going to be many arguments back and forth, many which appear compelling, but the fact still stands, there is a REAL problem, and something must be done about it. I know my 1 hospital out of god knows how many all over the US is NOT the only ones who see the lack of coverage as a substantial issue.
And many of the things thrown out there do NOT make it ok. Because you are a young adult, you don’t need medical insurance? Because you are a college student you don’t need medical insurance. Because you are out of work because your job let you go and you are having trouble finding a new job, you don’t need health insurance, and the list goes on and on.
Health insurance is important enough to say that it is needed, for everyone, and at all times, because one never knows when there will be an incident where it is need: accident cases, and sudden onset of severe chronic illness.
I seen on that graft that many people are 300% above the poverty line which means that a single person living alone making $30K a year. Well, if that person is not receiving employee health insurance, that amount of money means nothing.
My rent and utilities alone cost me nearly 20K a year and that is not including food, a vehicle, or clothing. If that person is not receiving health care benefits from their employer, I do not see how they can afford to pay for health insurance. Then, god forbid they are a single parent who is receiving child support which is often not nearly enough to take care of that child. There are health insurance plans in states for children but to qualify for them you must be far bellow the (300% above poverty) line. Now this person earning $30K is in serious trouble.
Bottom line, health care is not working, we need a fix. I am not arguing for socialized medicine, I am just arguing that there are in fact people who NEED health insurance who can not receive it. I don’t care if its 50 million of 10 million, 10 million people without health insurance that need it is 10 million to many. I am not trying to be god, or anyone’s savior, but quality health care is a basic human necessity.
I understand when you say, just because people do not have health insurance, it does not mean people are not receiving health care. But without insurance many physicians, heck I don’t know of any who do, will not take you on as a patient. Then you are forced to find a way into a free clinic or the health department which are currently so overwhelmed in my county that it is extremely difficult to even been seen in them. This is not my idea of a problem solved, but simply a problem.
When I was in College many years ago, they provided health care. It that now gone ?
Bill,
If there are colleges that give medical insurance they are not the major colleges of Florida. I can’t speak for other states. Saint Petersburg College is attempting to work out a medical insurance plan, but it is far to expensive. The only people who could afford it are those paying for it with student loans or students with wealthy parents.
Then again if the student is under 26 they can be on their parents medical insurance policy and would not need to buy into the colleges expensive plan.
Bill,
I researched it and stand corrected. There is an affordable health insurance plan for students attending a community college.
http://www.studentinsuran.....cplans.php
It is just under $100 a month, but it looks like you have to pay for 3 months at a time, which is still not so bad. If you are a community college student, tuition is low, and if you are poor, pell grant will give you enough for tuition, books, and the insurance.
That is pretty cool. I did not read all the details of specific coverage.
Kendale…. If you think the system is overwhemed now just wait until government gets their hands on it and people think it free.We aren’t suggesting these young people or self employed DON’T NEED HEALTH CARE…..IT’S THEIR CALL NOT TO HAVE IT and forcing it on them and making others pay is wrong and puts further expences on the ones who can afford it.You state children…ah yes the ol’e do it for the children plea.If I’m not wrong Congress just passed additional health coverage for the children called SCHIPS?
I see your point on reform but lets not throw the baby out with the bath water and make the situation worse.Afterall
Health care might be a necessity but it isn’t a right!
DDMao
“but lets not throw the baby out with the bath water”.
I heard where that story may have come from. People in old wild west did not take many baths. Water was not changed between each member’s bath. By babies turn water was really dirty. I alway enjoy hearing that old saying.
Kendale
Glad you looked it up. Was wondering if Universities still had. They did at Columbia, Mo University 4 years ago. Sounds like you pay by term. Makes sense. As employee I used it. Had to wait in line. Got good care
Kendale
In my city homeless kitchen have free medical care. Doctors and nurses donate their time. May be the supplies are donated as well.
Our health department has a free or near free clinics. They provides help with free milk for children, food stamps, medicare and medicaid sign-ups. Hopitals do much of the same thing.
Kendale…. If you think the system is overwhemed now just wait until government gets their hands on it and people think it free.We aren’t suggesting these young people or self employed DON’T NEED HEALTH CARE…..IT’S THEIR CALL NOT TO HAVE IT and forcing it on them and making others pay is wrong and puts further expences on the ones who can afford it.You state children…ah yes the ol’e do it for the children plea.If I’m not wrong Congress just passed additional health coverage for the children called SCHIPS?
I see your point on reform but lets not throw the baby out with the bath water and make the situation worse.Afterall
Health care might be a necessity but it isn’t a right! ” DD
You misunderstand me, I know the potential of socialized medicine, truly I do. As I’ve stated on another article, I understand that countries with government health insurance ultimately cut the pay of medical professionals, I know this because I work with many nurses and physicians, and other medical professionals from other countries who came here because of their pay in their home country, so again, I know this D.D.Mao. I know that when you chase health care professionals away be cutting their pay that the system will be overwhelmed with patients do to lack of staff, again, I know this.
What I propose is that the AMA, The American League of Nurses and other nursing associations fight this, which I plan to join up with, since I am a Registered Nurse.
Hear me, all of my colleagues are all for having insurance for all citizens, and we all will fight against destroying out pay. This is why we need to talk with our President and our Congress, try and come up with a way to get health insurance to those who need it while at the same time not destroying the health industry at the same time.
There are too many intelligent people in our country to allow ourselves to go under because of this, at least I’d like to think so. As soon as I have began participating as a nurse, representing nurses on the issues of health care reform, I will let you all know what I see and hear.
In my city homeless kitchen have free medical care. Doctors and nurses donate their time. May be the supplies are donated as well.
Our health department has a free or near free clinics. They provides help with free milk for children, food stamps, medicare and medicaid sign-ups. Hopitals do much of the same thing. ” – Bill
That is excellent, my county has all of those same things. I too have donated time to free clinics. I too have been a patient in them numerous times when I had no health insurance.
The only problem is that there are so many uninsured people here in Pinellas County, Florida that the health department and the multiple free clinics we have become overwhelmed and the lines become longer and longer until you have to wait days to be seen.
We also have WIC, which provides mothers of young children with milk, juice, cereal, eggs and such. We have food stamps and the also have a program to give these mothers cash on the same foodstamp card so they can buy things other than food items. We have medicaid and medicare that help mothers and many other poor or disabled, but unfortunately those people under the age of 26 who do not have children do not qualify for any of these things.
That leaves a gap of 18 years of age to 26.
I am extremely grateful for all of those programs, but some of them I do not agree with. Many of the people who obtain these benefits do not need them, yet are pacified by them and remain lazy. These are our welfare babies. Granted, some of them do need them, but many do not. These are also the same people who are on public housing, so their rent is paid, their utilities are paid.
I see these people all the time being that when I walk out of my front door, they are a large percentage of the local population. These same people who are receiving these benefits also, go out to bars/clubs nightly, use and sell drugs, drive fancy cars, and always seem to have money for the latest trendy, expensive clothing and jewelry.
You can not imagine how angry it made me between the age of 20-26 to see this while I am in college, struggling my behind off, not being able to reap these benefits, and these lazy people are having the time of their life, from my tax dollars.
Sorry that I completely went off on a tangent, but I needed it.
Point is, there are lots of benefits for people out here, you’re right. Although many people are left out and can not receive these benfits because of technicalities. I understand these technicalities are in place so that we do not waste funds on those who do not need the benefits, but the f–king morons that are running the show seem to be giving the benefits to the WRONG PEOPLE.
Here a good place to audit. This is where bureaucracy is certainly failing and wasting our tax dollars.
I am not saying socialized medicine is the solutions to fixing health care, but the part of medical benefits we are referring to here needs to be fixed.
I meant WIC of course but could not think of it.
Mdicare pay is going to be cut to Doctors and his staff. Added services and related cost must be paid for. I expect a loss in my disability money. Luckily it will not affect me, but will for millions who did not plan for later life..
Medicare already dictates health care cost. Medicare states what it will pay for and how much it will pay for various things. Then health care facilities in turn create the cost of there services based on this. Luckily, medicare will pay a great deal of money for these things, which is good.
They also dictate how long a person can be in a hospital for various conditions which usually dictates how long a patient really does stay before we send them home with home health care. At the moment, that system appears to work well.
If this is a predictor for the government health insurance plan, it is not so bad. Medicare is pretty good and it pays health care professional well, at least from what I see at work. Perhaps I will do the research to get the facts and detail about medicare. Maybe tonight, maybe Friday night.
When you read, learn about possible cuts in payments to doctors. Doctors now limit # of patients they will accept under medicare. I guess it applies to medicaid as well. If all patients pay medicare, Doctors have problem.
My first Doctor explained his medicare patients was his good deed. His regular insured patients pays the bills. Doctors now limit their medicare insured patients. It was hard for me to find a Doctor to take me.
I agree with you, although you may not have said it exactly, that if all patients paid, through medicare, hospital would be in better shape. However, from proven examples like England, cost to government plan blows it into space. Then those horrible limitations happen, like no expensive drugs for cancer victims, etc.
Just as Obama made many promises during campaign and then did different once elected. I know he says things now that will change when plan gets into financial trouble. Just as in England and other Countries.