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Bush slams Obama on economy, puts foot in mouth

When I saw this I knew it was going to outrage me more than Obama’s policies currently are. President Bush has opened his mouth for first time slamming some of President Obama’s policies and defending some of his own.

The Washington Times reports:

ERIE, Pa.| Former President George W. Bush fired a salvo at President Obama on Wednesday, asserting his administration’s interrogation policies were within the law, declaring the private sector — not government — will fix the economy and rejecting the nationalization of health care.

“I know it’s going to be the private sector that leads this country out of the current economic times we’re in,” the former president said to applause from members of a local business group. “You can spend your money better than the government can spend your money.”

Repeatedly in his hourlong speech and question-and-answer session, Mr. Bush said he would not directly criticize the new president, who has moved to take over financial institutions and several large corporations. Several times, however, he took direct aim at Obama policies as he defended his own during eight years in office.

“Government does not create wealth. The major role for the government is to create an environment where people take risks to expand the job rate in the United States,” he said to huge cheers.

Well President Bush, if the government is to create an environment where people take risks and then either succeed or fail on their own merit, then why did you support the original $700 billion bailout back in September/October of 2008? If you truly believe the private sector will work out the kinks, then why didn’t you let it? In fact, I blame President Bush for the bailout mentality we still have under President Obama. Had President Bush not succumbed to the government rescue plan from the get-go, President Obama may be having a tougher time selling nationalization of the auto and health care industries now.

This is semi-infuriating to hear President Bush now sound like a champion for capitalism when we all witnessed him say that he believes in free markets, which is why he has to use socialist policies to save them. He began this trend and now we have a President who is even more on board. Again, how was Bush’s original $700 billion bailout different from Obama’s current bailouts? Perhaps in scope but the intentions and results were the same. Some companies which were bailed out still went bankrupt which was just a waste of taxpayer money.

This isn’t to say Obama has an excuse, he simply doesn’t for his irrational, failing government-first economic policies. President Bush just started top-toeing down this progressive road and Obama is now hitting the gas on it.

Bush continued:

Mr. Bush weighed in on some of the most pressing issues of the day: the election in Iran, the closing of the Guantanamo Bay detention center in Cuba, and his administration’s interrogation policies of terrorists held there and elsewhere. The former president has not commented on Mr. Obama’s decision to ban “enhanced interrogation techniques” such as waterboarding, which the current president has called “off course” and “based on fear.”

“The way I decided to address the problem was twofold: One, use every technique and tool within the law to bring terrorists to justice before they strike again,” he said, adding that the country needs to stay on offense, not defense. On Guantanamo, which while in office Mr. Bush said he wanted to close, the former president was diplomatic.

“I told you I’m not going to criticize my successor,” he said. “I’ll just tell you that there are people at Gitmo that will kill American people at a drop of a hat and I don’t believe that — persuasion isn’t going to work. Therapy isn’t going to cause terrorists to change their mind.”

I applaud him for not backing down on the prosecution of the War on Terror. We have been safe for the years after 9/11 and I believe it is in part to the Bush administration and the brave men and women who put their lives on the line defending this country.

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43 Responses to “Bush slams Obama on economy, puts foot in mouth”

  1. How exactly has the war kept us more safe now then we were before the war?

    It is difficult to weigh such a thing. Are you saying that because we are at war, terrorist are not capable of attacking America as it has in the past? If so, how exactly has that come about?

    It’s easy to say, “Well there are no more planes crashing into American buildings.” But who is to say that there have been more plots to do so that have been thwarted.

    I’m not sure I believe that we are any more safe now then we were before. Especially not because we have been bombing, shooting, and killing people. I’m not sure violence is the way to bring about peace and safety. I believe that violence breeds hatred and more violence.

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  2. I disagree with many Conservatives in that I feel aid to financial institutions was necessary.

    We know Bill Clinton and Congress pushed for low income home ownership. As well as increasing funding and forcing F/F to fasilitate. F/F pushed it under Barney Frank guidance alone with his boyfriend working at either F or F. We all know how Frank denied any trouble at F/F. And Dodd sweat heart home loan. And Bush and McCain warned of troubles.

    How these bad loans were grouped together and sold in mixed packages with higher rated loans covering up true value of package. The institutions bought these and caused our mess.

    How F/F were big contributors to President-to-be and Congress. Alone with Acorn, who besides campaigning for Democrats were also involved in low income home ownership.

    Economy has shown improvement within 6 months of Bush intervention. Another signal of Bush correct response.

    Taking this all into account, I believe Congress either pushed bad home loans, asking or telling, companies not to follow sound loan procedures of the past.

    i feel it was necessary to stop a meltdown in our economy. I believe in hindsight Bush was justified.

    As far as Car company loans, Cheney has said it was a short term gap measure by Bush. To leave open for Obama to decide. I feel that was doing right thing and prudent.

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  3. “When people hurt it’s governments job to come in.”
    George W. Bush

    J.D. you want to hear Republican hypocrisy well here it is in all it’s glory.

    Bush mudded the ideolgical waters of Conservatism.It was Bush who teamed with Ted Kennedy to pass “No Child Left Behind”.It was Bush who SIGNED the McCAIN-FEINGOLD campaign finance reform.It was Bush who strongly supported the McCain-Kennedy immigration bill.It was Bush who ON HIS OWN created a vast new entitlement program(Medicare drug benifits).And it was Bush who conducted a foreign policy so expansive and at times redemptive as to send traditional conservatives into apoplexy.

    Who in the end prepared the ground for the McCain ascendancy? Not Feingold,Not Kennedy,Not even Giuliani.

    IT WAS GEORGE W BUSH! BUSH BEGAT MC CAIN AND THATS WHY WE ARE IN THE STATE CONSERVATISM IS TODAY.

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  4. D.D.Mao I second that….haha

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  5. President Bush ultimate legacy hasnt been written, but the only one thing that can be said withov reservation is that he has kept our nation safe since 9/11. He delivered on the main charge of his office in time of emergency, in a crisis without guidelines or precedent. For years the dems have been slamming President Bush actions in fighting the war on terror (fighting war on terror is not limited to combat troops on battlefield, it also includes implementing policies, tools and procedures to protect us from those seeking death and destruction upon America and Americans) but now that theyre in control, theyre starting to find out that it isnt easy as they thought to find other methodpr to keep us safe. Just look at the problems Obama is facing in trying to keep his promise to close Gitmo. Well Obama and dems, you OWN any terror attack that befalls this nation, none of that inherited from Bush stuff because they have already damaged most of the process that President Bush put in place to keep this country safe.

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  6. SpeakTruth2Power

    You are right. Some of Bush’s tactics are still being used even though Obama said he was against it.

    Escalation of North Korea was foretold by our Vice President Biden. The brains behind this administration.

    Obama’s answer to terrorist is pay island $200,000,000 to care for 4 terrorist. No visa is necessary for those island folks to come to America.

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  7. DD – “J.D. you want to hear Republican hypocrisy well here it is in all it’s glory.”

    Thanks… Although there is so much more to conservative hypocrisy than what is mentioned in this article. In truth, I don’t know why we are even concerned with hypocrites in office. We live in a two party system and this is what happens when you have that.

    Two parties who claim to be different but are the same.

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  8. J.D…………At least we(Nate and myself) admit hypocrisy which is more than the left has so far.Thus the need for Nate to point it out….LOL!

    And your alternative to the two party system is?

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  9. Government does not create wealth. The major role for the government is to create an environment where people take risks to expand the job rate in the United States.
    George W. Bush

    I know it’s going to be the private sector that leads this country out of the current economic times we’re in. You can spend your money better than the government can spend your money.
    George W. Bush

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  10. “You can fool some of the people all of the time and those are the people we want to concentrate on”….George W. Bush 31 MARCH 2001
    (Author of the largest government entitlement spending in 40 years and didn’t sign his FIRST VETO UNTIL 5 1/2 YEARS INTO HIS PRESIDENCY …20 JULY 2006)

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  11. JD

    Do you notice how Bill and D.D.Mao believe that they alone with Nate speak for the entire conservative party and that anyone who does not share their views are immediately considered to be librerals and they alone speak for the liberal party. I swear there is a mental health diagnosis that would be defined by this type of behavior, it’s on the tip of my tongue.

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  12. I wont even name any names. Follow this link to a particular mental health disorder and anyone answer me this, “Does this sound like anyone on this site?”

    http://www.mentalhealth.c.....-pe07.html

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  13. I wont even name any names. Follow this link to a particular mental health disorder and anyone answer me this, “Does this sound like anyone on this site?”

    mentalheal dot com forward slash “dis” forward slah “p20-pe07″ dot html

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  14. At leas I don’t think taking a dead baby out of a woman’w belly is abortion.

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  15. Don’t work too hard…You should demand a raise

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  16. Thank you for proving my point Bill.

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  17. sorry, typo

    mentalhealth dot com forward slash “dis” forward slah “p20-pe07? dot html

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  18. Take another one of those loaded needles they have handy for patients in crisis. Make the night go smoother.

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  19. I love when you show your ignorance, it makes for wonderful entertainment.

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  20. For you to be a RN you have to be on drugs.. More likely you are a orderly or custodian. Not that there is anything wrong with that. The fact that you hide behind a false premise in attempt to boost your status is pathetic.

    Your conviction, as shown to me when you spoke of being a 100% vegaterian, is non-existant. If you are at someone’s house you would eat meat. A simple ‘no thanks’ would suffice.

    You spoke of taking natural dead body of baby out of Mother as being abortion as if Conservative would think that was wrong. How stupid..

    And you think I am ignorant believing you take drugs ?

    I do not care that you are a Liberal. Fact that Gallop puts 42% Conservative and 19% Liberal upsets you that politically are at the bottom.

    You recently said this was entertainment. That and your insults (retarded) tells it all and draws my conclusions. Like a child in playground you repeat ‘you to’ when you make mistakes and have them pointed out to you.

    You are not a developed adult. You steal self asurance any way way possible. Your ranting on Sarah was ridiculous. Like David Letterman you take cheap shots.

    I disagree with DDMao on Bush. Yet neither one of us insulted the other. I gave my logical reasons and he gave his. You recently said I attacked your comments. I only did what DDMao and I just did.

    You spoke of going to school, I believe RN school. If that did not work out you would do missionary work with a relative. So you must not be doing well.

    I have no ill will towards you. I hope you get in life the best you can. Demeaning you is not necessary to bring my status up. Your brag of your love for your patient is just anothr cry for acceptance.

    “mentalhealth dot com forward slash “dis” forward slah “p20-pe07? dot html” is another silly act. For long time I quote and put link in next comment.

    When you actually discuss politics I quote a portion of it and give my response, usually doing the entire comment.

    You are in need of help…You insult trying to get me to rspond at night so you can carry on here while at work. Talk to the nurses for your entertainment, if they are willing to listen to you. I doubt they do anymore. Rubbish gets old. I am very tired of it.

    I have been writing a lot of comments. Yet rarely do you attack them logically. You enjoy insulting and rambling Obamanonutsville.

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  21. Please pass the popcorn

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  22. Bill,

    Ok, I am bored enough to respond

    1. I am an RN, check my name at the Florida department of health licensure lookup.

    2. I have no desire to boost my status. As an RN I am still low on the chain of command.

    3. I never said I was 100% vegetarian, just say I prefer to stay away from meat but will eat it if it’s served, which is quite often in my house being that my girlfriend loves chicken.

    4. I don’t recall saying ANYTHING about taken a dead body out of a woman being an abortion, you obviously have poor comprehension of the things that you read. I stated that commonly a fetus is not considered to be viable before 20 weeks gestation therefore why call an abortion before 10 weeks murder. Not sure how you read that and got dead baby in utero being abortion. lol

    5. Assuming that I am addicted to drugs make you ignorant.

    6. The fact that you think I care the percentages of US citizens political affiliation makes my assumption of your dementia a legitimate one.

    7. Me saying that it is retarded for a Fox News person to pull out a dementia assessment tool and use it to tell if someone is demented on his show was quite retarded. I understand he was trying to make a point, but the way he went about it was quite retarded

    retarded: Mental retardation is a generalized, triarchic disorder, characterized by subaverage cognitive functioning. That person behavior certainly fit that definition. I know he was purposely acting that way, but none the less, his behavior was that of someone with a cognitive deficit, not to mention being worthless.

    8. I am not a developed adult? Proof? I was not taking shots at Palin, I was expressing our differences of beliefs as I said in the comment you are referring too. Again, if I don’t share your beliefs, I am a bad person. Hrmmm

    9. I graduated RN school May 2008. So I am not sure what you’re talking about on that one. I am a history major and have finished the courses required for admission to medical school. My goal is to become a Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine and do medical and religious mission work along with opening sliding scale clinics in the community where I was raised. School is going well. I have above a 3.6 GPA after 170 college credits. Again, you assume, and you show your ignorance.

    The way I care for my patients is the way I feel, why in gods name would I need to be accepting by you, or anyone on the website? Being accepted is what people do while waiting to be chosen for volleyball teams. I have a job, I do it well, I earn a living, I pay my bills, I do for my child and my girlfriend. Those are things I feel the need to do, but being accepted is NOT one of them. If I wanted to be accepted like a child does, I would “conform” to the beliefs and views of others. I have differing beliefs and views of you on this site so therefore I am not conforming, nor do I NEED you acceptance. Nice try, but no cigar AGAIN, Bill.

    Because I did not quote a mental health description the way you feel is standard for posting comments means absolutely nothing other than you do not like the way I do something, which again, means NOTHING. lol

    I do not attack you, you attack every word I say, no matter what it is that I say, which by the way is never an attack on anyone, simply state my belief about the content of Nate’s articles.

    I talk with my peers at work, we laugh, we joke, we talk health care, news, or anything else that comes to mind, and we enjoy ourselves at work. We are close knit family and generally share the same views on every subject.

    There is nothing illogical about my commenting and if so, give example and prove it to be of ill logic instead of being a difference of belief or opinion.

    I don’t insult unless it’s Bill, and no one else, and even that happens rarely and is typically my response to an insult of yours. If stating my opinion is rambling then sure, I suppose I do share my opinion.

    Obamanonutsville is an insult and that is your life, a constant battle with ideals that differ from your own. That is sad, and I wont say you need help, like you do me, if that is what makes you happy then so be it.

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  23. I once had a neighbor who used his two way radio near my TV. It bleed and I heard him. I listened to him talk. He bragged about doing this and that and great job he had.

    Unfortunately I knew everything thing he said was a lie. For one thing his wife worked and he did not.

    I gave reasons why I believed certain things about you. I can safely say I made straight “A” in College and whose to know. Reading your comments and being on here while working is only way to truly judge here.

    I make mistakes in repeating things you have said. Though generally I will use direct quote so as not to make that mistake. Tired or low sugar level causes this.

    To answer because of boredom or entertainment at work tells a lot about you. My insulting Obama is excusable considering your insulting of Bush.

    You trying to take the high road after talking about doing mission work remind me of first night you entered this site.

    I frankly feel guilty being a party to answering you while you are at work. I don’t like enabling you.

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  24. Kedale

    Yes you are a RN in SOUTH PASADENA. Good to know

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  25. I’m sorry you have such a problem with me chatting while at work. But rest assure my patients are well taken care of. Tonight would make a great example.

    I have even assisted other floors tonight during rapid response calls. These are calls when patients are going bad but not yet a Code Blue, I’m sure you know what that is. I have assisted in recovering patients who could have gone bad but did not because if rapid nursing intervention.

    I also had a patient that began going bad but rapid intervention and quick noticing of a failing trend saved the patient. I am well knowledge in my career as an RN even though I am very knew. I and my other staff have the luxury of not being the only nurse on the floor and we have nursing assistants that are commonly nursing students. We are able to bounce thing off of each other to better understand the condition of our patients and nursing assistance who are getting vital signs can notice when something is not normal with a patient and report to us nurses.

    It is not needed that I stand over my patients because of this. I know I can be a jerk and when “enabled” as you call it I can get cocky. Don’t mistake me being obnoxious to you as me not knowing how to do my job. Yes I have my fun on here sometimes and like I said, it’s usually when I feel you are being out of line with me, and perhaps I take what you say out of context as well.

    Do not think that I ever get angry with you and want to lash out at you to cause you to be angry, but when If feel you are being a butt, I will be one in return, but only in jest.

    Again, I do my job, rest assure because if I did not, something could go wrong with my patients and I will no longer have my job, nor my nursing license. Then go back to being on the street, and that is something I would not want to do.

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  26. I used to live in South Pasadena, I now live in Saint Petersburg, about 1.5 miles from where I lived in South Pasadena.

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  27. For some reason Saint Petersburg comes to mind as being oldest city in America if on east coast. Seems I recall that. Been a long time ago so may be wrong.

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  28. The city was co-founded by John C. Williams, formerly of Detroit, Michigan, who purchased the land in 1876, and by Peter Demens, who was instrumental in bringing the terminus of a railroad there in 1888. St. Petersburg was incorporated on February 29, 1892, when it had a population of only some 300 people.

    In 1849, Brevet Col. Robert E. Lee (the famous American Civil War commander) and three other US Army Engineers surveyed the area and recommended Mullet and Egmont Keys become fortified. Both keys could only be reached by boat, since they were islands off the mainland. Union troops were stationed on the two keys during the Civil War (1861–1865) to aid in the Union blockade of Tampa Bay. The keys were again abandoned by the military and in 1882 military reservations were officially created on the two keys. Nothing was constructed there, however.

    Wikipedia

    Fort De Soto is a beach here in St Petersburg.

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  29. I recall a little about your street life when you first came him. I don’t recall you talking much about it afterward. I remember you and Babs getting into it over assisted suicide.

    I am a blunt person. I rarely joke around. I say what I mean. You do not need to read between the lines with me.

    I have had people tell me they had economic degree when their comments proved they did not. So perhaps that is why I doubted you. You are a RN as I looked it up.

    I worked as custodian in operating room, intensive care, baby section, and regular floors. As well as children with cancer. ER at times. Mostly I did floor where surgeries and those that put you under offices.

    I have to say you do not fit the normal RN I have meet. May be because of your background that caused my doubt.

    My father had funeral homes while a child and am use to death. I saw it in hospital. I remember man taken out of intensive care waiting to go into a floor room. I found him dead in hallway.

    Room certainly got full when crisis occurred. Of course I stayed far away. Once I found a unused narcotic syringe and promptly turned it in.

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  30. Kendale

    You are just a nice guy…

    Who started today on this article?

    Kendale Sturdivent Jun 20th, 2009 at 1:17 am
    JD

    Do you notice how Bill and D.D.Mao believe that they alone with Nate speak for the entire conservative party and that anyone who does not share their views are immediately considered to be librerals and they alone speak for the liberal party. I swear there is a mental health diagnosis that would be defined by this type of behavior, it’s on the tip of my tongue.

    Kendale Sturdivent Jun 20th, 2009 at 1:23 am
    I wont even name any names. Follow this link to a particular mental health disorder and anyone answer me this, “Does this sound like anyone on this site?”

    mentalheal dot com forward slash “dis” forward slah “p20-pe07? dot html

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  31. Of course I am not your typical RN. I have a background of being a 9th grade HS drop out. A criminal with a lenghty juvenile criminal record (including violent and drug charges) and a very small adult record. The day after I walked across the stage for my RN graduation I went to jail for aggravated assault with a deadly women / domestic violence.

    Also can book looked up if you google “Pinellas county arrest inquiry” and click on “who’s in jail” type my last name, they misspelled my first name, it says Kondale. It has my south pasadena address to show it is me.

    So yea, I’d say I am not typical as far as a medical professional. I have made many mistakes and poor choices in life. Yet I do have a brain, and I am very much capable of using it when I choose to.

    I wont throw excuses for my mistakes though environment and socioeconomic class played a small role.

    A person does not change so drastically from the life I lived, to the life I live if they are some sort of cognitively challenged person. My past lifestyle grew very old and I was not interested in going to prison like “ALL” of my friends whom I was friends with as a child and young adult.

    Funny story, why I chose to go to college. I believe I was 21 years old, working at a McDonald’s. I got into a heated argument with a high school age black girl. I was talking down to her because she was one of those young black women that figured as long as they had a large butt and nice breasts that she would never have to worry about money, men would take care of her all her life. I hated that. Her rebuttal to me was, “At least I wont work at a f-ing McDonal’ds all my life!” That cut into me very deeply because at the rate that I was going, that was my future, which honestly isn’t bad because once you hit Store Manager or better, District manager, you make as much, and honestly MORE than a Registered Nurse.

    Nonetheless, I signed up for college courses at a local community college, as I had a GED for my 16th birthday. I had already experienced college at the age of 16/17 but at that time I cared no for going to school, I simply went as a condition of living in my parents home. But after that ghetto chick hurt me deeply, I made nearly All A’s ever since that day. This is why I only have a 3.6, because at 16/17 I made all C’s which has forced me to never be able to climb above 3.6 even if I make A’s for the rest of my living days.

    Point being, you’re correct, I am not your typical nurse, and once I am a physician, I wont be your typical physician. This has been my point, I am not looking for acceptance, I am by no means interested in being like anyone but Kendale, I am anti establishment, I thrive on people who think that I am not capable of accomplishing my goals, it is the fuel I run on.

    You tell me I can’t, and I show you I will. Yes, I can be mean, I can be rude, and most certainly act like an idiot at times, but like I told you before, it’s all in fun, and yes, I get off on it at time.

    I did come to this site to learn, before youdecide2008 dot com. I had never had an ounce of interest in politics. So I learn from you all, not always learning anything good, but you all cause me to become interested in researching the topics that you discuss. That is how I got into reading the bible and the Qur’an as a teen. People argued religion, so I decided to find the answers on my own.

    You all argue politics, and I decide to find the answers on my own. Though I am not interested in all the particular things you choose to go back and forth on.

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  32. I admire the fact that you took the bull by the horns in your life and became a productive member of society. Few do that. I congratulate you for that. I do mean that.

    We have a character here who says I pick little things in others comments to tear them apart. Although that some time happens, I think as a general rule I do the whole comment except parts I agree with or not important to me. Some make
    personal insults. I try to be above that, but I can weigh into it.

    I grew up Democrat and was one till in the 90’s. My Dad was friends with politicians and turned down State office run. Dad was not filthy rich but I never wanted. I begun working part-time at 16 and earned my 1966 Mustang from profits in stock market. Chase Manhattan made big profits and understand laws was changed shortly afterward. Is a long time ago and I have never looked it up. Dad had connections with crime but I stayed out of it.

    My politics differ from most Conservatives. I admire LBJ in all his Texas style. He got more major legislation passed than anyone else at least in his day. My Dad raised me that all people are equal and judge by their actions. He was ahead of his times.

    I had decided to stop coming here. I am not going to write so many comments anymore. Most never get responded to anyhow.

    Profit possibilities are picking up. I got out of market when I heard about sub-prime. I guessed the down fall of prudent loan practices and saved my money. I had same luck with technology bubble burst, never bought into it. I instead made good profits buying and selling AMGEN. This market may be 8-12 month window for profit in my view.

    Some of Obama’s Wall Street changes should have occurred a long time ago. Same hold true for health care. But much is not economic or historic sound.

    Bottom dollar, I am tired of personal insults and demeaning of groups. I am not referring to just you here.

    When one speaks badly of either Obama or Bush, I like the reasoning behind it. Not just I hate him. General statements are just blast to madden those on this site..

    Not all I said here is directed at you. I too need to blow off steam.

    If you want to discuss, great. It’s your call. Respectful debate

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  33. Kendale – “Do you notice how Bill and D.D.Mao believe that they alone with Nate speak for the entire conservative party and that anyone who does not share their views are immediately considered to be liberals and they alone speak for the liberal party. I swear there is a mental health diagnosis that would be defined by this type of behavior, it’s on the tip of my tongue.”

    lol. Yes, I have noticed…They have been doing this for so long, their pride makes it hard for them to look at things objectively.

    I couldn’t stop laughing when I read the diagnosis. Spot on.

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  34. JD,

    I have always considered by a psychologist/psychiatrist, but I don’t always care to listen to other peoples problems, I just like diagnosing.

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  35. “Yes, I have noticed…They have been doing this for so long, their pride makes it hard for them to look at things objectively.”

    I know when the discussion moves from arguing points to personal insults against the conservatives that the liberals have lost this argument already. It’s not a mental disorder, just standard operating procedure since liberal policies can’t stand up to scrutiny, thus their proponents must resort to new lines of attack to draw attention away from the fact that they cannot rebut truth and fact with failure and government.

    Move on, better luck next time.

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  36. Nate,

    The insulting comes from the left as well as the right on your site. As long as you notice this from Bill, and D.D.Mao, and perhaps others, then I will assume you are not blinded by alliances. When I stated that Bill could potentially be a narcissist, that was my attempt to get him and other to realize that differences of opinion do not mean one is good and the other is bad. It simply means that their is a difference in opinion, values, or beliefs.

    Why did I do this? Because whenever someone does not share the views, opinions, or beliefs of conservatives when posting a comment, they are immediately attacked on basis of credibility, even when the posted comment was an opinion, values, or beliefs, and not attempting argue a facts, they are then tagged/labeled to be a member of a particular political party of affiliation, and an attempt to discredit their opinions, values, and beliefs are underway.

    This does a major discredit to the site in general. I am not attempting to say that I know the intention of this site other then posting news articles, but I have the opinion, value, and belief that discussing the news, politics, and issues in this country can be done so in a manner other then a war between differing political affiliations.

    Again, unless United, there is no hope for a consensus on anything in this country and it will continue to be a war on each other in this country until this country no longer exists.

    Don’t get me wrong, I don’t really care about the whole issue here on this site, because in our lives, this site matters little, I just consume myself with hope in the potential of all things, including this site.

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  37. Kendale

    “The insulting comes from the left as well as the right on your site. As long as you notice this from Bill, and D.D.Mao, and perhaps others, then I will assume you are not blinded by alliances. When I stated that Bill could potentially be a narcissist, that was my attempt to get him and other to realize that differences of opinion do not mean one is good and the other is bad. It simply means that their is a difference in opinion, values, or beliefs.”

    You resently blamed me for starting insults. I proved it was you that staarted it. Why don’t you show where I started it first!

    In fact it was on this article. Here it is…

    Bill Hedges Jun 21st, 2009 at 8:31 am
    Kendale

    You are just a nice guy…
    …..
    Who started today on this article?

    Kendale Sturdivent Jun 20th, 2009 at 1:17 am
    JD

    “Do you notice how Bill and D.D.Mao believe that they alone with Nate speak for the entire conservative party and that anyone who does not share their views are immediately considered to be librerals and they alone speak for the liberal party. I swear there is a mental health diagnosis that would be defined by this type of behavior, it’s on the tip of my tongue.”

    Kendale Sturdivent Jun 20th, 2009 at 1:23 am
    “I wont even name any names. Follow this link to a particular mental health disorder and anyone answer me this, “Does this sound like anyone on this site?””
    ……….

    More than that, you are not a Doctor but a RN, right ?

    Kendale Sturdivent Jun 23rd, 2009 at 1:58 am
    JD,

    “I have always considered by a psychologist/psychiatrist, but I don’t always care to listen to other peoples problems, I just like diagnosing.”
    ……….

    “narcissist” is an insult and you are not qualified to give medical calls like that.
    ……….

    Non-Conservatives are the big insulters here. I believe Nate said it best.

    Why don;t you show some examples proving your point. Instead of making blank statements.

    Kendale gave. “mentalheal dot com forward slash “dis” forward slah “p20-pe07? dot html”

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  38. Why does George Bush not sit down and shut up.
    Has he not done enough harm to this country? He got us in the mess that we are in and now he is trying to tell President Obama how to get us out of it. Go figure!!

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  39. Kendale

    Your last post was spot on. I think we all miss youdecide2008

    We all know who starts most of these attacks. I mean imagine being a pro life democrat or Gay republican. You can express something about Gay rights and you will automatically get attacked on the entire liberal/ democratic platform from now to the beginning of time. Eventhough it is not your position. Same with Muslim Republicans. You try to speak for islam then that means you automatically own all views of all liberals. Just like above. Someone could be a pro life democrat. You take a position on a totally different issue that is supported by most democrats like Health Care or Employee Free Choice act and next thing you know your being attacked on late term abortion.
    It’s like you have to be in 100% hatred of one platform in order to be Pro of another.

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  40. To say a Republican must believe all Republican views is like saying you must answer all questions corretly in a class in order to get a ‘A’ in a class at school.

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  41. Madruss desire to place all blame on Bush is simplistic and incorrect.

    Many examples are found on recent comments by me.

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  42. Dreadsen

    A little secret I learned in school. Use of ‘100%’ and ‘all’ should be closely scrutinized. And suspect as being usually wrong.

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  43. I agree madruss obviously doesn’t have a clue how we got into what ever mess he is speaking of, otherwise he would not be blaming Bush. He/She obviously has no idea how things get done in government.

    But when a large group of people say something, many just jump on the bandwagon rather than find out the truth or falsehood in the bandwagon’s shouts.

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