Video: Obama’s full “arrogant” comment in France

While I don’t think Obama was speaking in the most diplomatic way possible, much of this comment has been taken out of context.

Therefore, in the interest of full disclosure, here is the entire comment in context when Obama throws American under his bus calling it “arrogant” and “derisive”:

To be fair, Obama also scolds Europe for it’s anti-Americanism. However, I think he was trying to criticize his own country to endear himself to Europe, which was sad to see.

Discuss below.

  • Dreadsen

    Now it is debatable on which philosophy one wants to follow. The idea of using diplomacy first and getting the approval of your colleagues in the U.N. to do things. Or thinking “country first” and using this model to ignore the U.N. , Ignore the Geneva Convention, Ignore the weapons inspectors because you feel that these actions are in the best interest of your country. That can be seen as being extremely arrogant. Which is why we even had IRAN’S support in the war in Afghanistan originally. But the attitude we had about Iraq angered a lot of people. It appeared that the more we angered allies from other countries the faster we moved forward with the agenda. And instead of listening ad hominem attacks would be used against the country in question. Like “don’t listen to them they are socialist”. So if someone wants to agree with France or many other european nations they are viewed as siding with the socialist.

  • Bill Hedges

    Dreadsen

    I did not know there WAS great unity in the U.N..

    As far as Iran, there are many Iranian self interest involved__

    http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1282/is_21_53/ai_79485054/

    Could you be more specific concerning the Geneva Convention & weapons inspectors

    In your context, please explain “agenda”.
    …..
    “Like “don’t listen to them they are socialist”. So if someone wants to agree with France or many other european nations they are viewed as siding with the socialist”

    I admire France for their Nuclear energy. That does not make me a socialist.

    By disareeing with a French’s opionion on what France wants America to do, doesn’t mean I am anti’socialist. I do not want America to copy France’s socialist government style.

    Must America always agree with France. Each Country tends to look out for their own interest. Is not shameful

  • D.D.Mao

    Dreadsen…………There are certain things that are not debateable and can not be twisted to ones interpertation.The President takes an oath which states he swears to “Preserve,Protect and Defend the Constitution”.Not the UNITED NATIONS,NOT THE EUROPEAN UNION OR EVEN NATO but the CONSTITUTION.The left thinks the word SOVEREIGNTY means we have to get our “COLLEAGUES APPROVAL”. WRONG ! It means independence and self government according to my dictionary.And lastly Europe has no intention now nor did it ever entertain any thoughts of sending more troops to either Iraq or Afghanistan as shown by this recent visit by President Obama to Europe.France for example had a sweetheat deal with Saddam Hussein to receive oil which is why they refused to take any action NOT BECAUSE WE CALLED THEM SOCIALIST.

    But then again this administration seems to value Europe more than the Constitution by it’s tampering with it in the first 60 days.

  • CivicsJunkie

    Honestly, where in President Obama’s commitments did he say anything negative about America that was not the truth. There are those who seem to think that by acknowledging our country’s past mistakes, that President Obama is some how kissing up to Europe. There is no concession in his comments. He has merely outlined that both Eurpoe and America have made mistakes in the past, so let us acknowledge those mistakes and lets move on. Ever had an arugement with a friend and made up. How does that process usually unfold. Yeah! It is exactly like that. I am deliberately writing this in the simpliest terms because it is obvious what the Presidents comments were. But there are those who are looking to score political points at any cost. Anyone who would draw the conclusion that the President did something inappropriate here is either an idiot or a political hack.

    -CivicsJunkie

  • D.D.Mao

    Civics Junkie…….I enjoyed reading your post even though I don’t agree with you and think America and Europe look at things different ways which support their own interest.And yes you don’t CONSTANTLY (he did it when he was campaigning in Europe last summer also)criticize America especially as our President.
    Tsk,Tsk,….Your arguement lost creditably however when you state if we don’t agree we are either idiots or political hacks.Childish reponse!

  • D.D.Mao

    More thoughts on President Obama in Europe….The President and the liberal left are so used to pandering to the constituency in America with envy and class warfare they automaticly go into that mode where ever they go.The left are more concerned with how Europe thinks of America in this “New World ODOR”(no this is not mis-spelt)while Europe is quite content to let America foot the bill for the terrorist war in Ahfganistan and they pursue their own deals with selling weapons to Iraq.Russia was selling weapons to Saddam and our President wants to do away with all nuclear weapons…..great logic Mr. President.The President made such a great impression all he got from Europe was to send training and security forces to Ahfganistan and does he really stands a chance of rallying the world against future terrorist attacks when he calls them “OVERSEAS CONTINGENCIES”?

    NO LIBERAL LEFT YOUR PRESIDENT IS “ICH BIN EIN BIGINNER”

  • D.D.Mao

    Russian President Dmitry Medvedev said after his discussions with American President Obama that “He is easy to talk to him…..and he can listen”.The story “Russia Medvedev Hails “COMRADE OBAMA” can be found at:

    http://www.sg.news.yahoo.com/afp/20090403/twl-russia-us-g20-diplomacy-missle-7e07afd.html

  • Paul

    Europe gave Saddam the green light and encouraged him to make the fatal mistake of misjudging Bush and the Iraq war.
    If UN sanctions were enforced perhaps Saddam would have come clean and there would had been no reason for the war. No, Europe siphoned off oil form Saddam in the Food for Oil Program which made it possible for Iraq to continue it’s 12 year defiance of UN sanctions.

    Europe does in fact embrace Socialist views and generally is reluctant to get involves in controversy that may lead them into a conflict.

    The UN as well as NATO are ineffective and one doubts they will ever perform when and if we need their backing.

    Why should the U.S. cater to Europe other than with the expectation they support their Allies as they expect to be supported? The war on terrorism will affect them even more so than the U.S. but they would prefer to appease rather than take a firm stand.

    Europe long standing policy has been to ; let the US bear the burden both in military and financial terms while they sit back and reap the benefits.

    I believe Obama was wrong to berate the U.S. with hopes of farthing his socialist agenda. It is no wonder I and other millions do not support him.

  • JD

    Paul – “I believe Obama was wrong to berate the U.S. with hopes of farthing his socialist agenda.”

    I really liked this one. lol. Just out of curiosity. How does this help further a socialist agenda?

    Paul – “It is no wonder I and other millions do not support him. “

    I Feel ya, Paul, I was apart of the millions that did not support Bush and yet he was elected twice. So I feel your pain…but in this case, I am in the boat of millions supporting this president.

    I don’t see where Obama said anything that shouldn’t have been said. I did see where he said something some of you don’t want to hear. Pointing out Europe’s faults doesn’t cancel out ours.

  • bones

    To read these comments it seems like a whole lot of people had their feelings hurt watching our president bake up a humble pie. Maybe Phil Gramm was right after all, we really are a nation of whiners…

  • Bill Hedges

    bones

    merriam-Webster on line defines “whiner” as

    “to utter a high-pitched plaintive or distressed cry b: to make a sound similar to such a cry”

    I see no cries on this article. I see free citizens expressing their opinions logically with many providing links to stress their points. As in any group with enlightened individuals, they vary upon their beliefs.

    In my opinion there was no “whiners” in this article. Let alone proof to say “Phil Gramm was right after all, we really are a nation of whiners”… Unless you re-write the Right of free Speach, and re-define to include people who have a differing view than yourself.

  • bones

    I don’t truthfully think America is a nation of whiners, Bill. I disagreed with Phil Gramm, myself. Really I just find the predictable pattern of debate here disheartening. The same basic conversation seems to happen whenever any person of note makes an inflammatory remark.

    Inevitably some people are offended by the slap to the face of our nation, and inevitably others dismiss the remark as being fair because they feel it’s true. The predictable repetition of it all adds an heir of pointlessness to the whole thing.

    Before long I’m sure a republican (admittedly, probably not our president) will drop another comment rude enough to affront sensitive democrats, and everyone here will get to switch roles. For joy

  • Bill Hedges

    bones

    I am glad to know you disagree with Phil Gramm. Your words ” Maybe Phil Gramm was right after all” lead me to differ with your last comment. Am glad I misunderstood or perhaps you used incorrect wording. In any case, I am pleased you hold same belief I have of his statement.

    I am afraid “inflammatory remarks” does draw attention. Might I say, rightfully so. Such remarks can be bad as well as good. As any football coach uses to ralley his team. Imflamitory is in the “eyes of the beholder”.

    “Before long I’m sure a republican (admittedly, probably not our president) will drop another comment rude enough to affront sensitive democrats, and everyone here will get to switch roles. For joy”

    I must disagree with you here. I have seen Conservative here point out faults of Bush, Rush, etc.. I have seen liberals here speak good of Bush. And visa versa. I hope none of us are so rightest as to stand by our party blindfolded.

    “Inevitably some people are offended by the slap to the face of our nation, and inevitably others dismiss the remark as being fair because they feel it’s true. The predictable repetition of it all adds an heir of pointlessness to the whole thing”

    I do not disagree there may be repetition, and that is not necessary bad. One can repeat a lie often and make some believe the lie. So each time a lie is said, we must repeat the truth. Pointless, I must not agree.

  • D.D.Mao

    bones…….First off Phil Gramm was right we are a nation of whiners.Only the whining is coming from the left which uses class warfare and envy to rally their constituents.President Obamas whole campaign and cloth as a socialist is based on his ability to play to the supposed down trodden with his wealth distribution.Instead of lifting people up he is determined to bring EVERYONE DOWN TO A LOWER LEVEL.The right would be perfectly happy to be left alone by government.
    Humble pie you say? The only humble pie I saw being dished out was from the Europeans to your President.He went over there with two items on his agenda…To get Europe to assign more troops to Afghanistan and to have France and Germany have a bigger spending stimulus in their budget.He accompished neither.German Chancellor Merkel said it “wasn’t negotiable and French President Sarkozy said he would walk out.North Korea fires a missle and we have your President saying he wants to reduce nuclear weapons with the same people who SOLD WEAPONS TO IRAQ.No wonder Russian President Dmitry Medvedev called Obama “MY NEW COMRADE” The troops?……NOPE just 2000 TRAINERS AND SUPPLY PEOPLE is all Europe is willing to give. BUT lets not forget what President Obama ACCOMPLISHED……He promised $1 TRILLION TO THE I.M.F. AND APOLOGIZED FOR AMERICA.When Europe can walk all over the President of the United States and have him apologize besides it’s no wonder they love him over there.Your President was taken to the woodshed in the same regard as JFK was when he had his summitt with the Russians in Berlin in 1961.
    Don’t expect the MSM to write any of this although I did read a fine piece in the Washington Com-Post this past Sunday saying the same thing I just stated.

    D.D.Mao

  • D.D.Mao

    JD…….I’ve noticed lately an awful lot of “LOL” in your postings.Is someone tickling you or are you unsure of your convictions that you find this neccesary?

    With Respect D.D.Mao

  • bones

    You’re probably right Bill. I think the predictably venomous nature of partisan politics just wears on me. I don’t believe that any political ideology could possibly be worth all the frustration and anger that’s invested into it, let alone the rigid division it’s caused our country. Watching America fight itself like a dog determined to feast on it’s tail just becomes disheartening after a while

  • bones

    “First off Phil Gramm was right we are a nation of whiners.Only the whining is coming from the left which uses class warfare and envy to rally their constituents.”

    Do you think, DD, that some among the left might believe that the arrogance Obama apologized for was all coming from the right? I think both sides overlook the insults that they don’t really believe apply to them.

  • Bill Hedges

    bones

    I am not a fan of Obama as you know. He is our Presidet. When he speaks it is for all America. I do not say your last comment is wrong. I don’t know.

    As DDmao said Obama did not get what he wanted. But cost us $1 trillion of China’s money. Even with all the name changes for war and terrorism. I personal feel Europe is playing us as a sucker. Doing the dirty work.

    bones I am a hard learner and examples help me understand. Could you give examples that substanuates you last pararagraph.

    Also bones, I was thinking about this last night. Maybe you know the answer__

    In ww2 a soilder out of uniform behind enemy lines was shot as a spy. Terrorist scrap explosives to children. They don’t wear uniforms and destroy and kill. My question__Do they have rights under the Geneva Convention ? And should they not be shot as a spy since not in uniform..Maybe you know

  • Bill Hedges

    bones

    “I don’t believe that any political ideology could possibly be worth all the frustration and anger that’s invested into it, let alone the rigid division it’s caused our country. Watching America fight itself like a dog determined to feast on it’s tail just becomes disheartening after a while”

    Your statement could eaily have been said after Bush’s re-election. I remember the protest in Columbia, Mo. where I lived at the time. There were questionable matters in Obama’s elections as well, but recall no protest.

  • Bill Hedges

    bones

    “I don’t believe that any political ideology could possibly be worth all the frustration and anger that’s invested into it, let alone the rigid division it’s caused our country”

    I am sadden to hear you say that. Freedom demands vigilance.
    …..

    “Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty.”
    John Philpot Curran

    “The secret of Happiness is Freedom, and the secret of Freedom, Courage.”
    Thucydides

    “There is no liberation without labor…and there is no freedom which is free.”
    no author

  • D.D.Mao

    bones……There is no doubt in my mind that some on the left think the apology was based on the arrogence coming from the right.Does that mean that the President should pander to one side over the other and widen the gap that is dividing us here at home?
    As far as this constant “venomous nature of partisan politics” it is what it is and always was that way.I feel the same way you do at times and just step back from listening to politics until I’m interested again.However we as citizens must know what is happening if we want to make imformative decisions and contrary to belief I enjoy having these discussions with you.As I said before I don’t expect you to change and I respect your views.We have made progress on the “You Decide” site and have contained the name calling but we are never going to contain ones right to his beliefs.Thank God we live in America and can say that.
    Take a step back for a few days and let your head clear and then come back.I always look forward to your informative and constructive comments.
    All The Best……DDM

  • JD

    DD – “JD…….I’ve noticed lately an awful lot of “LOL” in your postings.Is someone tickling you or are you unsure of your convictions that you find this neccesary?”

    I, lol, when I see something that is funny. For example when I read, “Obama was wrong to berate the U.S. with hopes of farthing his socialist agenda”.

    I mean, how does Obama berating the US have to do with any socialist agenda? …. It doesn’t but people always look for a way to slip that Conservative tag line in there when talking about the Democrat party and the president.

    It use to be annoying and now I just recognize it for what it is and laugh. To be clear, I am a convicted person but I am not so stubborn to think that I have all the answers but I am smart enough to see when people are just feeding their fears and worries into an argument(no matter how irrelevant).

  • D.D.Mao

    JD……..Or maybe you realize you don’t have ANY ANSWERS and you refuse to see others interpretations and wave it off with your flippant elitist response when you don’t ignore it completly.

  • JD

    DD, I do have an answer the problem is you don’t agree with my answers.

    Just for clarity. What question were you looking for me to answer.

  • D.D.Mao

    JD…….My original question was not concerned with you having an answer but the the flippent response of “LOL” I questioned.I’ll chaulk it up as someone must be tickling you as you respond.

  • JD

    Indeed some one hit my funny bone while I was responding. It was the joke of “Obama berating the US to help further his socialist agenda”.

    lol. See I still get a kick out of it.

  • D.D.Mao

    JD………..Well just for clarity why don’t you ask Paul not me to explain what he meant by his remark about “furthering his socialist agenda”if it tickles you so? Why are you so obsessed and dwell on this prattle while other questions are being asked about President Obamas trip to Europe and his accomplishments while there……LOL

  • bones

    He wasn’t dwelling on Paul’s comment DD, you brought up his use of ‘lol” in regards to his response to Paul. He just took the time to explain it to you, since you demanded an explanation. Feeling a bit prosecutorial, are we?

    I only ask because your LOL was unconvincing

  • D.D.Mao

    bones…….I believe the word you were looking for was persecuted. “Do I feel a bit persecuted” The word you used means 1)To pursue or persist in so as to complete. 2)To initiate and conduct court actions against.
    Over such trival prattle that isn’t attributed to me and you think I should defend? Waste your time all you wish with this irreverent topic and wet your pants “LOL”ing if you think it will distract from the real one who needs defending ….your President.

    I ASSURE YOU IT WON’T !

  • Bill Hedges

    I watched Fox last night (normal), they had law student that questioned Frank.

    He was Democrat. He voted for Obama for Senate seat. Not sure if for Il. or D.C seat. If I recall correctly what he said, he tired of confusing answers and re-direction of questions. He went to Republican meeting and got answers to his questions. He changed parties and actively supported McCain.

  • D.D.Mao

    The FRENCH and a SOCIAL WORKER/COMMUNITY ORGANIZER two groups that head my list of least respected.