Neither of them are making it a requirement. however, the House bill does as for investigation to see if it would help bring youths from all back grounds together if they asked High school\college students to do so.

Again, This is not a mandate and it would be hard pressed to make anyone do it. Hell, we couldn’t even draft people for the military without people protesting. The same would happen if we drafted for volunteer work.

Your wife will not be forced to volunteer.

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in addition, some of us, including my wonderful wife, volunteer in the true sense of the word – my wife takes care me -a schizophrenic man. Now, Obama wants her to do more for no pay? She is already being taken for a ride by the government who doesn’t “allow” her to save over $3,000, or I won’t get my Medicaid and my meds. They won’t “allow” her to have life insurance over $1500. Let me ask this: She, an American citizen, taking care of me, someone know one else in the world would take of, she, is financially HURT by the government – and she’s worse off than an illegal AND are illegals going to have to work as slaves?

This country is sick to the core and Obama is out of his mind.

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Isn’t the reason why some of you have been buying automatic guns, for this reason. I think CG said it was to stand up for against our government. How can the government force you to give if you have your trusty AR-15 at your side?

I think you all should take up your 2nd amendment rights and go to the streets with your guns and loads of ammo screaming, “Hell no, we won’t volunteer!…you can’t make us volunteer!… Down with Peace corps, Down with Americorps!”

Just saying if they make it mandatory. Which they won’t but if they did…

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http://www.sltrib.com/ci_12003930

Serve Act will be in the house as early as Monday for a vote.

http://www.opencongress.o.....-s277/text

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You do not wish to check

“Nearly 50 House Dems Preparing to”

Babs Mar 5th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
Sure, anything obama or any of his administration says on any given day affects the market. So does earnings reports, jobless figures, and a whole host of other things. In fact, it doesn’t even take news from anywhere to move the market on any given day. The market is nothing if not fickle.

Sure, obama said we might not recover if we don’t spend all this money. So do a lot of democrats. But saying it loud don’t make it so.

I’m not going there on links and “proof”. I would have thought you knew the history of the market without links if you’ve been investing as long as you say you have. So I don’t know what you’re asking for there, and I’ll stay out of it.
Babs said

“Now, would you like me to make you a list of all of your comments while you work on that growing up thing?”

DDMao said he will come back once in awhille yestersay. The bickering bothered me today.

When you do your list on bones, add list on me. jd, DDMao, and yourself. You might not want to post the results. Maybe it will open YOUR EYES. If it continues I will post the lists.

Can’t you answer bones and jd without returning insults ? Your ” I never insult anyone intentionally Bill. Unless it’s a reaction” is great answer for me. For I own one hat. You own 2 hats at this site. Your second hat got tarnished by your first.

“One bad apple spoils the bunch”
Proverb quotes

Spoils quicker when apple is in authority and reacts causing more spoiling.
Babs

“I never insult anyone intentionally Bill. Unless it’s a reaction”.

You did here:

Babs Mar 26th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
“GOP Finally Finds Voice in”

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I don’t agree with you often’ but from experience I know Babs ibsults. Without insults being thrown at her.

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This is exactly the sort of futile bickering that I’m talking about. And I’m sure you’d put this all on me, but your comment was clearly NOT an example of an open and honest discussion about race. Now get back to your adult conversations, this kid’s going to recess.

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Now, would you like me to make you a list of all of your comments while you work on that growing up thing?

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Funny thing about that remark, it only makes sense if you assume all Americans are white. Surely you didn’t mean that Obama is trying to punish blacks, hispanics, asians, ect for the deeds of their forefathers?

Don’t worry babs, I don’t think you’re a biggot, I just think you’re real white

Thanks for throwing more insults out to illustrate the futility of my point about the futility of productive discussion. Pardon me while I work on that growing up thing

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When you want to join the grownups, join.

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Cut the inflammatory. Unlikely it will thrown at you.

Be productive, might get that thrown at you

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Bones – “So tell JD you’ve got him outnumbered and surrounded if you want. I’m sure he’ll come out with his hands up.”

Naw, Bones, I am going to come out with my pants down. That will really throw them off. lol.

In all seriousness, I understand why they are so upset. They have had their way for the past 8 years and although Bush spent trillions on his War (and did nothing for the budget) they enjoyed 8 years of power.

It hurts to lose power and it is humbling.

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Just since I posted this morning I there’s been enough arguing and insulting to keep me occupied for hours trading responses. I don’t have the energy, I’m too exhausted from all my grenade-throwing, tap-dancing, moon-walking ways (as you refer to them).

Nate thinks my disagreement must come from a disdain for personal liberties, and that I want to lead the country toward socialism. Either that or I’m too stupid to differentiate between some key things. Fair enough, my comments were inflammatory too.

But productive discussion? that’s not going on in here, nor is it likely to. So tell JD you’ve got him outnumbered and surrounded if you want. I’m sure he’ll come out with his hands up.

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On the other point of not being able to protest when you enlist in these select organizations… I am waiting to see what the senate does with the bill. What is wrong with that? I am not telling you, Nate, babs, and CG can’t petition, camp out, and fight the house’s bill.

Also, DD, I concede points to you guys from time to time which is much more that I get from you. Hell, If I disagree with Nate, I am told that is because I don’t don’t believe in personal liberty. Which is a joke.

I have no problem that you all don’t agree with me. I think the most arrogant thing is when the people who don’t agree call me or others idiots.

As for you all blaming the world on Obama… Well, i can relate. I though Bush was making the sky fall when he was in office. So I do feel for you and can understand.

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Next during a speech at UCLA in early February of this year Michelle Obama stated “He’s going to demand you put down your division,your cynicism.That you come out of your isolation.Barack will require you to work”

Also why do you always try to shut down a discussion by saying “Still I really don’t care”?

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Let me tell you what I think of this part:

“Makes anyone 55 years of age or older eligible as Senior Corps volunteers.”

I’ll be 55 in September. I’ve volunteered all my life. At 55, nobody’s going to tell me what to volunteer for anymore. After a lifetime of putting everyone else first, I now put my aging mother, my grandchildren, and myself first. I’ve done my time and obama and congress can stick it where the sun don’t shine.

I’ve watched the “townhall” meeting with questions on the TV, actually recognizing some of the questions from the website. I watched with an open mind, and it took all of 2 questions to see that the goal is not to be accountable to citizens, but to use their questions to further his spending and socialization programs. So I turned it off. Nothing new is being said, nothing honest is being said.

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“If that’s cool with you, then ignore these articles as they’re meant for people who think individual liberty is more important”

Which translates to, if you don’t agree than don’t say anything and, if I recall correctly, that attitude is what Nate hates about the idea of not being able to protest.

No, more like if you can’t grasp the basic concept of personal liberty and limited government then you won’t understand the protest to forced government volunteerism. No double standard, just concepts that most people can understand.

See? Very easy to grasp, or so I thought.

This is laughable:

“How dare they ask me to volunteer my time.”

That’s the point JD, they won’t be asking, they’ll be forcing. Again, please try to grasp the difference there if you can, and I know it may be difficult with your Obama voter blinders on.

I think this bill is too early in it’s conception to really fear it. I will wait to see how the senate changes it before I get too worked up.

So when do we protest? When it’s being signed by Obama? Things like this need to be killed before they get traction in any form. As in telling the legislators “Don’t even think about it!”.

Once again, don’t make me quote “First they came..” to point out that we need to stand up now while we have the opportunity to before things like this are passed.

This is Obama’s agenda which many ultra-liberal Democrats share, they believe everything stems from the government, not the individual.

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