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Well, as of today, the White House has developed a new website that touts complete transparency with the taxpayer dollars we’ve just been relieved of. The site’s format is reminicient of obama’s campaign website, and opens with this video of the President’s promise:
On the main homepage, it begins with the words “Your money at work” in large letters. On the right side of the page is this solemn statement:
Accountability and Transparency
- From recovery.gov
On first glance, it would look like Tax Relief makes up the largest portion of the bill, wouldn’t it? But considering every other graphic represents spending, they would need a wider graph to display Tax Relief vs. Spending in the spirit of true transparency.
I have a few questions, and don’t seem to be able to get an answer from the site as of yet. Perhaps you do, too. For instance, what in the sam hill does “Protecting the Vulnerable” mean? Who do they identify as the “Vulnerable”? And why is science grouped together with infrastructure? And what is $8 BILLION dollars worth of “other”?? Does “other” translate into the pork in this bill? And how many jobs will that create?
They are quick to say on site that all of our questions will be answered in the next few months right here on recovery.gov. In the meantime, you may submit questions and comments to – I assume – President Obama via the contact page. I just submitted my first comment, and I would suggest every reader of this article do the same. I don’t want to wait months to find out who is so vulnerable that it takes $81 Billion to protect them – unless, of course, that money is going directly into the Department of Defense Fund to aid in our own protection, which is not stimulous spending, either.
I can tell you one thing. It’d better not be to protect Nancy Pelosi’s infamous mice in California.
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One can safely assume the “vulnerable” who need protecting make up the base of the Democratic Party.
“And what is $8 BILLION dollars worth of “other”?? Does “other” translate into the pork in this bill?”
I can answer this question. No. TOO SMALL.
Is that all there is on the web site? That’s transpericy ?
Never fear. Fox news says Republicans are inspecting line by line. All PORK (I mean if pork) exist they will find. Don’t expect them to hide their findings. I bet you don’t wait a month for their report
o economic adviser ties to Iran
“President Barack Obama said rising U.S. unemployment shows the urgent need for government action on the economy as he announced a panel of outside economic advisers led by Paul Volcker to help chart a course out of the recession”.
“Obama and Volcker, the former Federal Reserve chairman, presented the 16-member board at the White House. It includes former Securities and Exchange Commission Chairman William Donaldson, former Fed Vice Chairman Roger Ferguson, UBS Americas Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Robert Wolf, General Electric Co. CEO Jeffrey Immelt and Service Employees International Union Secretary-Treasurer Anna Burger”.
http://www.chron.com/disp.....49703.html – 42k -
General Electric Co. CEO Jeffrey Immelt helped Iran illegally ?
http://www.mlive.com/us-p.....fense.html – 46k
http://thecablegame.blogs.....keith.html
President Obama has been hiring a dozen or so (it seems that way anyway) media people recently and now we know why.To edit and nitpick this recovery website so that the gullible American public will believe in change.Well change is all that they are going to have left in their pocket after this hodgepodge and mishmash of pork is digested.
The pusillanimous Republicans on the other hand better come up with alternative ideas or else it is going to look and be portrayed as the incompetent vs the incoherent.Republicans always did well in the past 30 years when they had ideas to run on and it usually was from the conservative side of the party.Unfortunately we haven’t had any of this since the 1994 Contract with America gang.President Bush in spite of how he was portrayed as a Conservative was guitly of rethinking not shrinking government.Hopefully with Michael Steele as head of the RNC Republicans will no longer excell at mediocritcy.
Just say NYET to socialism.!!!
Amy Holmes on National Review Online brought up an excellent point this morning.Usually a bill signing takes place in the East Room of the White House or Rose Garden if the weather permits.It usually has the bills backers around the President beaming approval that he’s signing it with T.V. cameras and flashbulbs going off.This one took place 2 thousand miles from the White House and no Harry Reid,Nancy Pelosi, or Chuckie Schumer to be seen.It seems the President wants to sopp up the credit and appaulse alone after using an enormous amount of political expense to get this through.So be it !!!
DDMao, I heard obama wanted to sign the bill at the site of the DNC convention, where he was chosen as that one.
Babs………LOL That could be the reason he went back to Denver to sign the bill which is where the convention was held.Where were those tacky columns he had back in September?
Where was one pen that would WRITE?
You guys watched the signing ? I was cleaning my cat’s litter.
No, I saw the clip on Brett Bair last night.
“One thing we know that in the past we have temporized with collectivism and we have lost.And after the campaign was over we were left not with the exhilaration and pride of having done our best to restore freedom but with the sickening humiliation of having failed to seduce the American people because we were pitted against a more glib.a more extravagent,a more experienced gigolo.”….William F. Buckley
It is going to take more than an inconsistancy for President Obamas supporters to lose faith and I truly doubt they ever would. If you don’t believe this FDR was re-elected for a third term in 1940 after two terms of unemployment never went below 10% and STAYED ABOVE 20% for 21 consecutive months.
DDMao, did you see the video I just posted? Check it out. I don’t always agree with Hannity, but he nailed it in this video without every saying a word.
Babs………..I can’t seem to locate it. Under which heading is it under? Unless you mean the Youtube of President Obama?
No, new featured article:
http://www.youdecidepolit.....t-of-2009/
Here are the details of the bill on recovery.gov
http://www.recovery.gov/?q=content/act
Which links you to…
http://www.whitehouse.gov.....ic_review/
“Obama, whose presidential campaign harnessed technology to identify supporters and track voters, already has rewritten the rules on how technology can be used to shape public opinion. But as the president and his top aides attempt to turn that savvy into governing, they are finding that existing technology and regulations are making it difficult for them to keep their word.”
“The problem facing the administration is that it’s impossible to put on the Web site decisions that have not yet been made.”
http://news.yahoo.com/s/a.....Cv6kED5gcF
I would like to add that, i too would like to see more detailed information, however, at least our president is putting himself out there to be scrutinized and although this is not the most transparent website… I believe he will work to make it more so as time passes.
“No President should fear public scrutiny of his program. For from that scrutiny comes understanding; and from that understanding comes support or opposition. And both are necessary.
Without debate, without criticism, no Administration and no country can succeed–and no republic can survive. That is why the Athenian lawmaker Solon decreed it a crime for any citizen to shrink from controversy. And that is why our press was protected by the First Amendment– the only business in America specifically protected by the Constitution- -not primarily to amuse and entertain, not to emphasize the trivial and the sentimental, not to simply “give the public what it wants”–but to inform, to arouse, to reflect, to state our dangers and our opportunities, to indicate our crises and our choices, to lead, mold, educate and sometimes even anger public opinion.” – JFK
JD
I have not studied this, obviously. I understand originial bill you must do a lot of jumping around to understand it. I’ll wait for “Dummies are us” summary. Republicans are coming out with. Real simplified version that most American can understand.
I am sure if Republican get it wrong Democrats will be nice enough to point out any mistakes.
I assume you read. How much money does Obama control how it is spent from this law ?
Bravo, a liberal has returned to defend obama! Good to see you back, JD. Love that you would post the link to the “details” of the recovery bill – I could have done the same, but no one here has the time to read 1000+ pages, and why should we? The Congress and Senate didn’t read it before they VOTED on it!
I must say I agree with you on one thing. obama certainly is putting himself out there to be scrutinized – the question is, can he stand up under real scrutiny? The kind that he did not get BEFORE he got himself elected?
Tell me, JD, how do you like the way things are going so far? Feeling that hope and change yet?
Babs – I have liked (75%), disliked (15%), and indifferent (10%) on the hope and change obama is bringing.
Overall, I am feeling the hope and change but then again it has only been 30 days.
Fair enough, JD. And how do you like the new “stimulus” bill? Are you ready to saddle your son with trillions in debt on obama’s word? Do you support all those details in that plan you linked to? What do YOU think $81 billion in “protecting the vulnerable” means?
My thoughts on the “protecting the vulnerable” is that it is in reference to “vulnerable population” which is stated in the bill as senior citizens, minority communities, people with disabilities, and low-income individuals.
It is still is not clear as to what programs this is including… as in what programs from what categories (housing, education, technology, etc.). I have a feeling there will be more to follow on the recovery.gov website or I, like you, will be disappointed.
Lets give a little here. This website is designed and implemented in no more than 2-3 weeks. So lets give a little time for them to get things up and address questions\critics.
Here is a pretty good summery of the bill.
http://online.wsj.com/pub....._0217.html
oh, i forgot to mention rural populations is under the category of “Vulnerable population” as stated in the bill so I am assuming “protecting the Vulnerable” is including the 26 Billion or so in food and farming.
Again, I am hoping the clarify as I am just going off of what I could dig up from the bill.
Why should we have to “give a little” in waiting for the website? Maybe if Obama didn’t cram this down the pipe and give some transparency before he signed it we wouldn’t be having this conversation. Instead we have to wait to find out why we’ll have rampant inflation and higher taxes to pay for Obama’s socialism.
Instead he rushed it through and went back on his word about giving Americans “5 days” to view it online before he signed it. He just can’t live up to his “openness” and “transparency” claims, can he? No, no he can’t.
Obama’s hubris is shameful and it’s funny watching people try to cover for him. He has broken so many campaign promises already that he really doesn’t have many more to go. Hope and change, can you feel it?
If any Obama voter (with half a brain) is being honest, they’ll admit the simple known facts that he has gone back on his word numerous times already.
We’re working on a page dedicated to his broken promises, should be fun. Too many to keep track of so we’ll write them down for everyone.
Nate – “We’re working on a page dedicated to his broken promises, should be fun. ”
It will be therapeutic for you in the least. To bad you weren’t in such an emotion on everything Bush went back on… i know, I know… It is in the past.
Let me know when the website is up. I would be curious to see what you have.
Hero Republican Govenors. Wanting to refuse stimulus money
http://news.yahoo.com/s/a.....e_stimulus
Have you stopped making your monthly house payment. Well it’s here. Uncle Sam is ready to ask you what amount is convenient for you to make in house payment.
Find out the rules so you have money to blow. Let tax payers pay their share of your home. You may have won the lotto ! May not be a limited time offer
http://news.yahoo.com/s/a.....reclosures
JD
Bring your bad stuff about Bush to me. Best have proof or forget it. You saw what happened to you tonight.
Nate
There is a web site that is keeping track of broken promises and stuff. Maybe this will help
http://www.obamasgaffes.blogspot.com/ – 130k -
JD………I have looked through the Constitution a few times now and I have yet to see where the “Vulnerable” is covered in the First article part 8 where it list what the 18 items government shall spend OUR MONEY ON.Perhaps the left believes the parentalistic nationalism of FDR’s State of The Union speech in 1941 where he list his Four New Freedoms is what governs us.
You mention President Bush’s spending many times.In fact thats mentioned by the left when ever they try to defend this debauchery of social engineering.As you know I am not a fan of Mr. Bushes BUT please explain how doubling up on money pissed away previously is going to help the mess we are currently in? Lets just cut to the chase and not get into a discussion on jobs that aren’t going to do the economy any good for three years or are only financing a specific project.Perhaps we can start with the money going to Amtrak who has a tin cup syndrome of begging Congress for money on a regular basis.
The President is putting an enormous amout of political capital on this omnipotent and omniscient project for ONLY THE first three weeks into his administration.It has been my experience that when you run an organization you aim for a major project you want passed and shot to get that done.If you try to get done to much (especially concerning money) people tire and become skeptical leaving you standpat with a woulda,coulda,shoulda practically.It seems he is shotting craps on this…….so be it!!!
I’ll put it as simply as possible.
I don’t agree with everything in the stimulus and I am not sure what he is referring to when he said vulnerable…as said before, I was trying to answer babs and it was just my educated guess based on what I had read from the bill.
I am sure we will hear more in the coming days on what it is exactly and we will see how close my guess is.
DD – “You mention President Bush’s spending many times.”
Well, 5 trillion in spending is a lot. Time will tell if Obama’s bill will help with the economy. Again, it will not cure it but it will help.
Bush wrote, passed, and signed. The past two years dumb Bush outsmarted Democract controled Congress. Bush drugged them. Bush rewrote the Constitution so he could do this too
JD…….Your defense of President Obamas legalized plundering borders between straddling and lackadaisical.
Please be specific as to HOW IT WILL HELP.
Free market works. Tax payers need not pay. Today $79 billion to bail out the few % home owners behind in paying. Add $200-250 billion to F/F
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Did anyone else read that the $42 billion deficit in California could be reversed with $50 billion in income in one year simply by drilling offshore from existing oil wells? How dumb is it that they refuse to even put this solution on the table – instead choosing to raise taxess to a level that will cost each taxpayer $10,000 over 5 years. And all they had to do was drill, baby, drill.
Here’s a question…..If this pork package is as popular as the media tells us it is then why is President Obama STILL OUT THERE with his rhetoric hyping it? From what I’m hearing President Obama is accomplishing what it took President Carter three years to do.
America you chickens are coming home to roost.
Babs
I heard. Of course Califoria is a strange land. Well so is o and Congress. With new oil found in America we could save alot not buying foreign oil. Off LA. coast and Alaska new production could start quickly with existing intrstruction. California does not have the system ? I guess they have some if they can produce in one year.
Might ask o to cut heat down in white House to ssve energy. He likes it HOT. You and I should conserve though
DDMao
You’re right. I don’t hear any crowing. The market people are tearing o apart today over $300 billion bail out for home owners. Not part of new law ?
Correct me if I heard wrong. Doesn’t o have $250 billion in new law to spend as he wishes ?
http://www.nytimes.com/20.....using.html
The empty suit savior wanted to build a Democratic party that would stay in office for decades with his agenda.Instead his belligerent policies are siphoning off the independents who were bamboozled by his schmaltz.
DDMao
I would rather say..”Reign for a 1000 years”
With CNBC talking bad about o, things don’t look good for o
Babs – “How dumb is it that they refuse to even put this solution on the table – instead choosing to raise taxess to a level that will cost each taxpayer $10,000 over 5 years.”
I am with you on this, babs. Not saying that it is 100% of the solution but they could have at least done some more drilling to help put toward the cost.
Still, states reserve their rights to do what they will. I would not be behind 100% of drilling their way out but some drilling would help.
On the Stock Market floor in Chicago teas bags were thrown all over. I guess they culf throw in the water because of pollution
JD, California was the first state to run to Big Government looking for a handout. What infuriates me is they have the solution in their own hands, but they would rather support Pelosi’s mice, harbor illegal criminal aliens, and march for gay rights than pay their bills. There isn’t a sign of common sense in the whole state anymore. The inmates are running the asylum in sunny California.
By the way, JD, just came in and caught the latest Rasmussen poll. They’re reporting Obama’s approval ratings are down 5 points since the end of Jan. to 60%. Doesn’t matter to me, but you brought it up. Approval for the mortgage bill he introduced yesterday is at 38%, if I recall correctly. I can see further approval rate droppings in his future if he introduces many more ideas like that one.
Bill……….You may have heard this but some reporter from I believe MSNBC was on the floor of the Chicago Board of Trade this morning ranting against President Obamas economic policies.He said they should have a Chicago Tea Party in July thus the tea bags.It was early and not many were at work yet but he got a good response. We’ll have to see if he kept his job and is on the show tomorrow….LOL
DDMao
He won’t get fired. He was great. They showed it all day. Great response from floor workers and announcers. And guess. I guess they forgot that o got elected with great popular vote.
I did post it.
Also houses being bought is up in CA.. Meaning capitalism is working. But now Government steps in and our tax dollars near $300 billion will be wasted. Many bailed out will still lose their home.
Besides this bail out, they are mad that contracts will be broken by government. This could hurt future home mortages and cause higher rates for good rated buyers..And ability to get loans for marginal buyers.. Bad move
o needs to learn actions have consequence.
Bill………..Whats the story behind the Swiss opening bank accounts? Was this initiated before Obama took office and did we have our fingers in this for taxes?
DDMao
Taxes. Has nothing to do with o. This is rare. I haven’t heard of this since the Nazi gold belonging to Jews was recovered..
My TV is half way broke and I am getting ready to go buy one. I’m afraid I don’t know the details on how they were able to accomplish this. It had to be really good.
I’ll look forward to your take on this….DDM
DDMao
http://www.nytimes.com/20.....19ubs.html
DDMao
Have you heard when Republicans will come out with siplified stimulus law copy. Babs pointed out Demo. are knocking us. I think that’s why demo are doing it. Strike First and discredit.
Bill ……No I haven’t heard anything but since it was already passed why the rush.The Democrats must be getting heat over this as one of Babs post said earlier for them to stay on the attack and the President in campaign mode.
“When the legislative and the executive powers are united in the same person or the same body of magistrates there can be no liberty.”….Montesquieu
DDM
But many of these Democrats are getting up there in years. Don’t want them to start popping off from high blood pressure or worse.
I keep wondering why ? They know it will come out. It is not logical. So much about o is not logical
Bill………..WE DON’T???
DDMao
I take the 5th. Hey, I’M beat. Talk to you later. Did you see Nate new post.
o is stopping production of world’s best fighter… F22
Buy some tea bags
Bill…………Did you read about Putin telling the United States not to accept socialism in our economy? He was at the opening ceremonies of The World Economic Forum in Davos Switzerland at the end of January. He stated “In the 20th century,the Soviet Union made the states role absolute.In the long run,this made the Soviet economy totally uncompetitive.This lesson cost us dearly.I am sure no one wants to repeat it……..There is no reason to believe that we can achieve better resultsby shifting responsibility onto the state.”
Pretty strong stuff for a Communist to be preaching Capitalism to America!!!
The Boston Herald is running a 7 part series on the Sovereign President of American Liberalism Ted Kennedy and is speculating that his wife Vicki Kennedy will fill his spot after his death.
It doesn’t mention however that her father Edmund Reggie (a close friend of Sen. Kennedy’s)was convicted in 1992 of a misapplication of funds in a Savings and Loan he founded in 1959.He also pleaded no contest to similar charges in 1993 and served 120 days of HOME DETENTION and was fined $30,000.
Her brother Raymond Reggie was also convicted of bank fraud in 2005 and served 1(ONE)year in jail.
A special election will be held by state law 145-160 days after Sen. Kennedy’s seat is vacated.
DDMao
Putin…Let’s trade Presidents. Added plus, He would use our resources to get out of recession. Oil. I don’t think we have a lower carbon print because we burn mid east oil ?
Putin defends his country. Hey, Let’s trade. Obama would be in HOG HEAVEN. And we, better off
Tell o people to SHUT UP. One shouts out about Nationizing banks. Ruined a market expected to rise. Plus that d— mortage bail out.
We should be allowed to cuss when talking about this STUFF
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Is teddy’s wife a lawyer ?
I would rather have Caroline. She is so dumb she would not show up to vote. Be one less bad vote.II understand she is great helping children..Her cause
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I watch CNBC. I watched Rich give o (YOU KNOW WHAT)yesterday for mortage stupidy.
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One of America’s heros, Olliver North, said yesterday o stopped F22. Best plane in world and only plane that can penetrate Russia’s new defensive systems. Which IRAN HAS.
o did not go see our troups before sending them off to war…BUSH DID.
o CONDEMNED Bush for build up in Iraq. NEVER admitted build up was good. Hear o builds up AF…………
http://www.freerepublic.c.....9753/posts
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DDMao
Swiss—Safe haven
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29268064/ – 53k
I guess this was started before o ?
This could keep FBI and tax people busy for years…illegal business, drug, tax rvasion, etc.. money
As long as this does not keep FBI from investigating our government and Acorn, it is OK with me. Unlike Senator Reid, I believe we sre required to pay taxes
http://www.youtube.com/wa.....QIKJqLIqaE
There must be something in the water in Mass. Vickie Reggie Kennedy’s father and brother are going to feel right at home with Barney Frank on screwing around with the banks.
DDMao
Maybe Frank can do for banks what he did for F/F.. Cheer up
Those wealthy people of American citizenship should be banished from this country, if in fact, they hold an offshore account. If they don’t pay their fare share of taxes, why should they be allowed to remain citizens of the USA?
In my opinion it is a treasonous act. Especially since we are on the brink of financial collapse. Thanks in large part to the Kock Bros! Evil men!