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		<title>By: Bill Hedges</title>
		<link>http://www.youdecidepolitics.com/2009/02/11/obama-vows-no-earmarks-in-porkulus-laughable/#comment-244132</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Hedges</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 23:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Babs

I&#039;m sure she did. Franky, I turn channels when I see her face.  I understand Republicans are not allowed behind closed doors when writing bills. 

The three Presidents each have there own views of things.  At least public views. Privately, may be same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Babs</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure she did. Franky, I turn channels when I see her face.  I understand Republicans are not allowed behind closed doors when writing bills. </p>
<p>The three Presidents each have there own views of things.  At least public views. Privately, may be same.
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		<title>By: Babs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Babs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 22:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, and didn&#039;t I hear she&#039;s the one that said we won so we get to write the bill?  That&#039;s what I heard.  Kindergarten 101 attitude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, and didn&#8217;t I hear she&#8217;s the one that said we won so we get to write the bill?  That&#8217;s what I heard.  Kindergarten 101 attitude.
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		<title>By: Bill Hedges</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Hedges</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 22:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Babs

I think she lives in her own world. She went around giving her view as that of church on abortion.  Almost got Excommunicated

Yes she is honest. She believes what she says. And says it. She&#039;s smart too. Knows not to say the no-no things. sometimes. Remember she ruined a bill agreement when she talked bad about Republicans ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Babs</p>
<p>I think she lives in her own world. She went around giving her view as that of church on abortion.  Almost got Excommunicated</p>
<p>Yes she is honest. She believes what she says. And says it. She&#8217;s smart too. Knows not to say the no-no things. sometimes. Remember she ruined a bill agreement when she talked bad about Republicans ?
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		<title>By: Babs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Babs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 21:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll give Pelosi one thing - she&#039;s open in her love for socialism.  It&#039;s right out there for everyone to see - she&#039;s proud of it.  At least she&#039;s honest about it, huh?</description>
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		<title>By: Bill Hedges</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Hedges</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 20:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Babs

In Speaker&#039;s video, she does not swear &quot;NO PORK&quot;.  Although she was asked about both very specifically. I don&#039;t think she wants to say that word. Can&#039;t blame her. Is shame to hide behind word games</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Babs</p>
<p>In Speaker&#8217;s video, she does not swear &#8220;NO PORK&#8221;.  Although she was asked about both very specifically. I don&#8217;t think she wants to say that word. Can&#8217;t blame her. Is shame to hide behind word games
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		<title>By: Babs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Babs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 20:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a difference in the finite meaning of &quot;pork barrel projects&quot; versus &quot;earmarks&quot;.  In this situation, it&#039;s muddied because we say &quot;The bill is full of pork&quot; and obama says &quot;The bill has no earmarks&quot;.  Like saying the paper is blue, and him saying the paper is not black.  Both may be true, but the accusation is about pork barrel projects, not earmarks.  Like frisbie golf courses.  Pork.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a difference in the finite meaning of &#8220;pork barrel projects&#8221; versus &#8220;earmarks&#8221;.  In this situation, it&#8217;s muddied because we say &#8220;The bill is full of pork&#8221; and obama says &#8220;The bill has no earmarks&#8221;.  Like saying the paper is blue, and him saying the paper is not black.  Both may be true, but the accusation is about pork barrel projects, not earmarks.  Like frisbie golf courses.  Pork.
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		<title>By: Bill Hedges</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 19:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read that Obama recently defined &quot;earmarks&quot; as last minute additions  to bill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read that Obama recently defined &#8220;earmarks&#8221; as last minute additions  to bill
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		<title>By: Nate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 19:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They were questioned on earmarks because, in general, earmarks are equated to pork. Therefore, Obama is trying to change the definition, that&#039;s all. 

We&#039;re splitting hairs and getting into the definition of what the word &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4XT-l-_3y0&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;is&quot; &quot;is&quot;&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They were questioned on earmarks because, in general, earmarks are equated to pork. Therefore, Obama is trying to change the definition, that&#8217;s all. </p>
<p>We&#8217;re splitting hairs and getting into the definition of what the word <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4XT-l-_3y0" rel="nofollow">&#8220;is&#8221; &#8220;is&#8221;</a>.
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		<title>By: Bill Hedges</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Hedges</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 19:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Krodis

Nate provided video to provide information about ...no,,, &quot;earmark&quot; or &quot;pork&quot;, whichever term one rather use.  Given by Speaker of House.  

In another place, I showed link America has more oil than Middle East. Found with new techology and abiility to extract. I will search and get back with you on that link. 

You are correct it takes long time to deveolop oil field.  However, in some areas structure is in place and new oil production would be fast. If we do not start developing we will never have. 

With quickness the issue, why all the extras, good or bad. Place them on a less urgent bill.  Example-- STD . Had they focused and left stuff like that out, the bill might be law weeks ago.

You might read my link above.  You may not have seen it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Krodis</p>
<p>Nate provided video to provide information about &#8230;no,,, &#8220;earmark&#8221; or &#8220;pork&#8221;, whichever term one rather use.  Given by Speaker of House.  </p>
<p>In another place, I showed link America has more oil than Middle East. Found with new techology and abiility to extract. I will search and get back with you on that link. </p>
<p>You are correct it takes long time to deveolop oil field.  However, in some areas structure is in place and new oil production would be fast. If we do not start developing we will never have. </p>
<p>With quickness the issue, why all the extras, good or bad. Place them on a less urgent bill.  Example&#8211; STD . Had they focused and left stuff like that out, the bill might be law weeks ago.</p>
<p>You might read my link above.  You may not have seen it.
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		<title>By: Krodis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Krodis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 18:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the confusion here is a misunderstanding of the meaning of the word &quot;earmark&quot;.  It&#039;s not snyonymous with &quot;pork&quot;.  The definition of &quot;earmark&quot;, as per the Congressional Revenue Service: &quot;Provisions associated with legislation (appropriations or general legislation) that specify certain congressional spending priorities or in revenue bills that apply to a very limited number of individuals or entities. Earmarks may appear in either the legislative text or report language (committee reports accompanying reported bills and joint explanatory statement accompanying a conference report).&quot;

A congressman setting aside a certain amount of money for his own congressional district (or a single company, or whatever) is an earmark.  This bill, which, if strictly held to the definition of &quot;economic stimulus&quot;, may have some things in it that do not directly deal with economic stimulus (pork, as you would say), doesn&#039;t seem to have any earmarks, as far as I can tell.

If my definition of earmark is correct, then it seems his definition of earmark is essentially correct, and by definition, the president is incapable of creating earmarks as the very definition of earmark involves bypassing normal federal funding distribution.

I will concede that some of the bill is not directly related to economic stimulus(or, at least not in the short term), but to be fair, a lot of it has been removed over the past few weeks, and a lot of the stuff there, while maybe not exactly stimulus, are worthwhile projects(imo).  Maybe they should be in another bill, sure.

As for Bill Hedges suggestion to drill a lot, I don&#039;t think it would be nearly the economic help that you think it would.  In fact, I remember reading that drilling would have essentially no impact economically for a long time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the confusion here is a misunderstanding of the meaning of the word &#8220;earmark&#8221;.  It&#8217;s not snyonymous with &#8220;pork&#8221;.  The definition of &#8220;earmark&#8221;, as per the Congressional Revenue Service: &#8220;Provisions associated with legislation (appropriations or general legislation) that specify certain congressional spending priorities or in revenue bills that apply to a very limited number of individuals or entities. Earmarks may appear in either the legislative text or report language (committee reports accompanying reported bills and joint explanatory statement accompanying a conference report).&#8221;</p>
<p>A congressman setting aside a certain amount of money for his own congressional district (or a single company, or whatever) is an earmark.  This bill, which, if strictly held to the definition of &#8220;economic stimulus&#8221;, may have some things in it that do not directly deal with economic stimulus (pork, as you would say), doesn&#8217;t seem to have any earmarks, as far as I can tell.</p>
<p>If my definition of earmark is correct, then it seems his definition of earmark is essentially correct, and by definition, the president is incapable of creating earmarks as the very definition of earmark involves bypassing normal federal funding distribution.</p>
<p>I will concede that some of the bill is not directly related to economic stimulus(or, at least not in the short term), but to be fair, a lot of it has been removed over the past few weeks, and a lot of the stuff there, while maybe not exactly stimulus, are worthwhile projects(imo).  Maybe they should be in another bill, sure.</p>
<p>As for Bill Hedges suggestion to drill a lot, I don&#8217;t think it would be nearly the economic help that you think it would.  In fact, I remember reading that drilling would have essentially no impact economically for a long time.
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		<title>By: Bill Hedges</title>
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		<description>Better to do nothing 

&quot;President Obama&#039;s economic recovery package will actually hurt the economy more in the long run than if he were to do nothing&quot; 


www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/feb/04/cbo-obama-stimulus-harmful-over-long-haul/ - 107k -</description>
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<p>&#8220;President Obama&#8217;s economic recovery package will actually hurt the economy more in the long run than if he were to do nothing&#8221; </p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/feb/04/cbo-obama-stimulus-harmful-over-long-haul/" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtontime.....long-haul/</a> &#8211; 107k -
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		<title>By: Bill Hedges</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Hedges</dc:creator>
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		<description>There are some things I feel create jobs and are good. Getting away from oil does clean our earth. I applaud the non-polluting coal plant that will be built. In &quot;o&quot;&#039;s State

It will be many decades berore oil needs comes down to a trickle. To super boast our econmy we need to drill.  To open this up and curtail road blocks in long run might create more jobs than this bill ever would.  Leaving our money in America for our economy. Instead of buying foreign oil.</description>
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<p>It will be many decades berore oil needs comes down to a trickle. To super boast our econmy we need to drill.  To open this up and curtail road blocks in long run might create more jobs than this bill ever would.  Leaving our money in America for our economy. Instead of buying foreign oil.
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		<title>By: Bill Hedges</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Hedges</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to study the biggest bill in history is not sound. I will not buy a used car without having it checked by my mechanic.

Uhderstand there is only so much money in the world American can borrow.  Each dollar government uses, is one less dollar Mr. Jones can borrow to start his small business.

Although money spent for STD is important, pupose of this bill is homes, jobs and loosening the credit crunch.  Take the non-essental out--PORK</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to study the biggest bill in history is not sound. I will not buy a used car without having it checked by my mechanic.</p>
<p>Uhderstand there is only so much money in the world American can borrow.  Each dollar government uses, is one less dollar Mr. Jones can borrow to start his small business.</p>
<p>Although money spent for STD is important, pupose of this bill is homes, jobs and loosening the credit crunch.  Take the non-essental out&#8211;PORK
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