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President-elect Obama did make many hints during his campaign that he would be open to at least taking advice from his political rivals on key issues. Recent signals indidcate he may be interested in holding true to this sentiment as he’s reportedly seeking to meet with Sen. John McCain about whether he will be an ally in the senate. President-elect Obama is also reportedly considering Sen. Hillary Clinton for a Secretary of State position, though that is largely speculation at this point.

The report on thsi from Yahoo News:

WASHINGTON – Presidents typically say they want to be surrounded by strong-willed people who have the courage to disagree with them. President-elect Barack Obama, reaching out to Hillary Rodham Clinton and Republicans, actually might mean it.

Abraham Lincoln meant it. He appointed his bitter adversaries to crucial posts, choosing as war secretary a man who had called him a “long-armed ape” who “does not know anything and can do you no good.”

You could say his Cabinet meetings were frank and open.

Richard Nixon didn’t mean it.

“I don’t want a government of yes-men,” he declared. But among all the president’s men, those who said no did so at their peril. He went down a path of destruction in the company of sycophants.

It so happens that Obama and New York Sen. Clinton share a reverence for “Team of Rivals,” Doris Kearns Goodwin’s book about how Lincoln brought foes into his fold. Clinton listed it during the campaign as the last book she had read. Obama, clearly a student of Lincoln, spoke of it several times.

Now past could be prologue.

Obama is considering Clinton for secretary of state or another senior position, meeting John McCain on Monday to see how his Republican presidential rival might help him in the Senate, and sizing up one-time opponents in both parties for potential recruitment. He made one Democratic presidential opponent, Delaware Sen. Joe Biden, his running mate.

“I think it reflects a great inner strength on Obama’s part that he is seriously considering creating a team of rivals as Lincoln did,” Goodwin told The Associated Press on Friday.

“By surrounding himself with people who bring different perspectives, he will increase his options, absorb dissenting views and heighten his ability to speak empathetically to people on different sides of each issue. The challenge, of course, is to ensure that the discussions do not become paralyzing, and that once a decision is made the inner circle accepts that the time for debate is over,” she said.

The Associated Press reports on the Obama/Clinton offer:


Sen. Clinton reacted to questions about her possible appointment as Secretary of State:

Also, in a move consistent with his campaigning and target audience, President-elect Obama will be the first President to simulcast his weekly radio address and make it available in video form on YouTube:


I actually think this is a good idea. President Bush always gave a weekly radio address, as did President Clinton, but where were you supposed to find it other than the White House website? Turning it into a YouTube channel is a good idea and will make his message more easily available on the internet.

So that’s about it, the transition continues amid the economic issues facing the nation. We’ll continue reporting on events as they unfold.

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45 Responses to “President-elect Obama reaches out to political rivals”

  1. I am so loving these ideas. Obama addressing the nation on one of the Internets most popular mediums, youtube.com.

    I also think change.gov can be a great place as well. I suppose once things get fully under way and they start beefing up the site a bit with more, and detailed information.

    I also like the idea that change.gov asks for the American people to write to the administration about their issues. Not that they can possibly read it all and/or address them all, it at least opens up a door for possibility.

    Of course there are always likes and dislikes about any president, I am still on the bandwagon of change and Obama’s initiative to reach the American people via Internet is a big, and excellent change. I can’t say that I have ever seen so much internet traffic from prior presidents.
    :)

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  2. I wonder if Obama will reach out to Ron Paul like he has so called reached out to McCain and Clinton.

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  3. Yadda,yadda,yadda………The same tap dance from EVERY new administration on how we want to work together to help America.Come January it’s reality time.

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  4. I,as a Chinese,support Obama all the way,who’s going to be the President of the United States of America!Only Obama!
    I have seen many TV debates of presidengtial campaign,I feel Obama is a superman in speaking.
    And I’m positive that he will do well in his term!

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  5. Kendale

    There are many senators. Ron Paul is very, VERY far away from Obama. Just like Kucinich in many ways. Both of them are on the opposite sides of the bird and almost falling off the edge. I don’t think there is much in Obama’s agenda that would compromise either one of them. Both Paul and Kucinich voted against the bail out package.

    D.D. Mao

    “Yadda,yadda,yadda………The same tap dance from EVERY new administration on how we want to work together to help America.”

    What politicians should REALLY say is I want my opposition to work with ME to get MY agenda done. Not yours.
    He should say “We want to work together on my ideas the hell with yours” lol

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  6. Dreadsen,

    I was only wishing. :) I mean if Obama is going to claim that he is going to work with people with differing ideas then why not go with those that have, well, differing ideas….lol

    Lot’s of people have ideas that differ from Obama, but it doesn’t make those ideas any better. I’d just like to see him collaborate with those with GOOD ideas, not with people like McCain who just has differing ideas.

    Ron Paul, in my eyes, seems to do his homework and could add a lot of GOOD to Obama’s “Good Intentions.” During the election I always stated that I feel that Obama is a smart man with good intentions and that to make a good impact, all Obama needed to do was surround himself with experienced people who did their homework and could influence Obama to make the “RIGHT” moves. Now that he is elected I pray that he does just that.

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  7. Kendale

    I suspect that most of McCain’s differences with Obama was Political. He will go back to being the Maverick he was when he was a senator and not the man he because when he was the presidential candidate. Maybe McCain and he could work on Immigration being that both have similar ideas on the matter.

    Ron Paul will be a good adviser for quite a few things. I don’t think Ron Paul would actually accept that type of offer. There would be too much in Obama’a agenda that he woudn’t agree with. I hope Ron Paul can help advise him from his expertise in the housing finance committee. You have any ideas from Ron Paul which Obama may actually implement as President? :)

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  8. I’m glad that Ron Paul did not endorse John McCain. He’s really shown that he stands by his principles because John McCain is the polar opposite of Ron Paul.

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  9. Um, other than getting out of Iraq, No. LoL I have not seen Obama speak of anything that I have seen Ron Paul speak on. To my knowledge Obama really just says the same things most other people speak about wanting. And though I voted Obama, it is true that Obama does not really detail anything, he just says what he thinks Americans want in general and doesn’t speak like a political figure that really knows what is going on.

    Anyone can say, I am going to fix the economy, I am going to stop the war in Iraq, I am going to fix education, health care, yadda yadda. When I watch video clips of Ron Paul, or read things about him and what he says, it’s a quite different. I see him talking about things that are going on, not just what lame American’s, such as myself, see, such as people losing jobs, people with failing mortgages, and such. He tends to be telling us about what is going on behind the general news cast on problems in America, tells us what exactly is going on, how we have gotten to where we are, who is involved, and how we can alleviate these problems.

    That is why I was hoping Ron, and those knowledge as he, are willing to reach out to Obama, appeal to his intellect, and teach him how this country and this world works, and what he can do, exactly (not what sounds like fun), and push for him to do.

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  10. Kendale wrote…
    To my knowledge Obama really just says the same things most other people speak about wanting. And though I voted Obama, it is true that Obama does not really detail anything, he just says what he thinks Americans want in general and doesn’t speak like a political figure that really knows what is going on…

    So you are saying that Obama promised the american people what they wanted to hear without having the details or real desire to back it up? Are you kidding? Oooh, I wish I remembered the post. You just accused Obama of some of the same things that caused you not to vote for McCain…

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  11. Did any of you get the scoop about what happened at the ?last? Presidential debate, in which the police mounted horses and trampled Iraq Veterans Against the War? McCain and Obama didn’t give them an audience. Being against a war is not the same as being against our troops. Many Americans have yet to realize that. McCain and Obama did know that the police were doing what they did, and they just didn’t care.

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  12. “Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views”……William F. Buckley

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  13. Jeremy,

    I think you have me mixed up with someone else. I didn’t vote McCain because he totally didn’t appeal to me at all. Not to mention most of his campaign seemed to be trying to prove Obama was bad rather than trying to prove he was good. Anyone who campaigns that way is WEAK. :)

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  14. Kendale said…
    Not to mention most of his campaign seemed to be trying to prove Obama was bad rather than trying to prove he was good. Anyone who campaigns that way is WEAK…

    My point is, that BOTH of the candidates campaigned this way. Anyone that says that they voted one way because of this campaign style is simply ignoring the issues and voting blindly.

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  15. Ok. I voted for Obama because he is black. I voted for him because he made his start as a community organizer. I voted for him because he is a very smart man who did very well in college becoming a lawyer. I voted for him because he reached out to the average american to finance his campaign. I voted for him because he ignited a fire under the bottoms of many people who before never paid any attention to politics.

    I voted for Obama because he is a breathe of fresh air. I voted for him because he reaches out to hear the average Americans interests.

    I voted for Obama because I ignorantly and blindly believe that he cares about me and other Americans the way that I believe that other politicians do not. I voted for him because I have a blind faith that he will be a different type of president that will do the best that he can with what he is faced with the change the normal lives of the middle class.

    I did NOT vote for McCain because he is a old white man who appears to think that because he was in a POW camp that this possibly makes him a better man for the job. I did not vote for him because he feels the needs to worry us with Obama’s paling around with people who are bad. I think that it is important to “Keep your friends close and your enemies closer”

    I believe that talking to the enemy in a fashion that is unprecedentedly too friendly is very important. I believe that it is vital to be friendly with the enemy, because when the enemy feels comfortable with you, they expose themselves, leaving us at a better advantage. I think McCain is a programmed being, set it his old white military man was. I believe he is too OLD for the job. I believe Obama is young enough to be different and not stick to the same old game plan.

    There are many more points I can make and if you are interested in hearing them I will elaborate.

    I know many of my reasons may appear ignorant, juvenile, or stupid, but they are my reasons. I am not the normal guy that thinks the way that most of the people on this site do, but it surely works for me, and I am content with my, gut feelings, they have not steered me wrong so far.

    So sound off baby.

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  16. Jeremy

    True both did campaign negatively but there was a different style to how both of them did this. Saying McCain is George Bush 3rd term is not the equivalent of Palling around with terrorist. Even if you believe both to be true one is much darker than the other. There was a point when one side ran 100% negative ads with out any ads boasting about themselves.
    I’ve always said that this created the false notion that the only thing wrong with Obama is Urban Legends when there were other damaging policy stances of his getting ignored. If one side is only attacking on Guilt By Association while the other side is sticking on policy differences and distorting policy differences the more informed voter ended up thinking that Obama’s policies may have been squeaky clean.

    Now on the other hand there were people who were disgusted at how the GOP as a whole ran their negative campaign and were driven off. I don’t think there were as many people who were disgusted with Obama’s campaign. They were disgusted by a whole host of other things but his campaign was probably a lesser concern.

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  17. Kendale

    Was your last post serious?

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  18. Obama & McCain meet today.

    The two sit down at the president-elect’s transition offices in Chicago’s Kluczynski Federal Building midday Monday.

    Obama says at photo spray ahead of the meeting that they’re going to talk about how they’ll work together to “fix up the country.”

    McCain — asked whether he would help Obama with his administration — responds, “Obviously.”

    Watch video.

    http://thepage.time.com/v.....n-chicago/

    Read pool report here.

    http://thepage.time.com/m.....-report-3/

    They’re also joined by future chief of staff Emanuel and McCain ally Sen. Graham.

    http://thepage.time.com/o.....n-meeting/

    Obama arrives at his offices about an hour early. Read pool report here.

    http://thepage.time.com/m.....-report-2/

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  19. Wow, Kendale, so age, personality, and the color of skin matter to you in a candidate? Would you have voted for Obama if he were younger than the Constitution requires for candidates?

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  20. I believe that in this country, age does play a role in a persons beliefs. Not everyone, but many. Old white men and women are very often nervous of me before they talk with me at my job (I an a nurse in a hospital). It’s just how this country is man, and no matter how many people you can say do not pre-judge people, I can show you twice as many who do. Personality is most certainly important. If you are a a-hole then there is obviously something inside of you that less than cares about people. Skin color does not matter. I do find it appealing that The United States of White American voted for a non-white candidate. Sorry, but in this country, it is something out of the ordinary to vote for black people, and you can not deny that.

    honestly, the constitution was written in a time that is vastly dissimilar to the times on today, so I hardly think the constitution means anything. I am absolutely in favor of a major face lift to the constitution. I would not mind it being completely re-written to suit 2008.

    If you can honestly say that a document written in 1786/87 represents this country in 2008, you are sadly mistaken. If so, why even have amendments, obviously it is incomplete and incompatible with the changing times.

    If you simply vote for a candidate based on the way they claim their are going to run things, then they can tell you anything, and do none of it. If you think a 72 year old man and a 47 year old man don’t differ in their thoughts, ambitions, beliefs, and ideals for this nation simply because of age, then you are naive. Age most certainly matters.

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  21. Kendale………….If you believe in the Constitution being a living document then it has no value at all. If thats the case it is not living but dead because it can …AND WILL be changed whenever the mood of the country swings.The Constitution was written as a LEGAL DOCUMENT on how to govern and the Bill of Rights is written on WHAT THE GOVERNMENT CAN NOT DO TO YOU.What you want is TEENAGE POLITICS where it is short sighted and self centered.

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  22. “It so happens that Obama and New York Sen. Clinton share a reverence for “Team of Rivals,” Doris Kearns Goodwin’s book about how Lincoln brought foes into his fold.”

    Unfortunately, they also share a reverence for another book – Saul Alinsky’s “Rules for Radicals”.

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  23. Kendale, you’re making a little more sense to me now. Indeed age plays a significant role in determining whether a person should have public office, but don’t you deem the issues as more important than age or personality? What about the company that the people keep? For example, McCain has gladly kept company with the likes of Phil Gramm and John Kerry, and Obama with Jeremiah Wright and William Ayers.

    Can you expound on why you think the Constitution needs to be rewritten? Do you believe in unchanging principles that the Declaration of Independence and United States Constitution are based on?

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  24. Christopher………Great questions.You’re learning son.

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  25. There is much more to a story than what we here, so I make no assumptions about who Obama has been in company with.

    I used to sell crack, do drugs, hurt people, and more that I wont share to the public.

    I no longer do anything illegal. I am a male nurse, and a loving and compassionate one at that. Things change, people change. I still associate with my friends who still do things illegal things. My associations don’t make me guilty of their crimes. I am not assuming to know Obama’s story about his associations, I am only stating why his associations do not trouble me.

    You don’t have to agree with everything a person believes to be in company with them.

    I believe in unchanging principals in general. The Constitution has it’s amendments for a reason.

    Morality doesn’t change, what is and is not ethical does not change. People change, especially over time. Societies change, and any history shows this. I am not arguing how well a document can be written, all I am arguing is that when this country was founded, to when the constitution was written, to 2008, this countries leaders have vastly changed what they believe write and wrong is.

    Human rights, woman’s rights, civil rights, ect have changed a great deal.

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  26. Kendale………First off let me advise you that if you are in the company of or even KNOW OF such company committing a crime you are guilty and can be prosecuted.
    Next although your speech is very eloquent it doesn’t say much.Yes people change and thats why we have Admendments (RE: slavery,womans rights etc.) however the people who want to hold a new Continental Congress want to do so to inject Abortion,Welfare and affirmative action into the Constitution thus having a reason to justify these beliefs.

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  27. I have no problem with Abortion. Who wants welfare and affirmative action. Not that I believe we need it now, but at one point in our history I believe we did need affirmative action. And there are STILL employers that have a bias when hiring new employees.

    I am even for welfare to a certain extent. I am all for helping poor worthless to society people and turning them into worthwhile citizens. If by welfare we are talking about funding people and introducing them to programs that will help then with their bills and childcare in order to give them the opportunity to learn a trade or go to college so that they can turn their life around, than I AM ALLLLLLL FOR THAT.

    I am not for giving people money when they are only going to use it to sit around the house and party and are making no effort to make a difference in their lives.

    I have known both of these scenario’s.

    In some situations, people are actually raised in such piss more situations that the hole they were born in, is the whole they are raised to continue to dig themselves into. This was my beginning. When born and raised this way it is so easy to be dumbed down and breed so ignorant that you do stupid things like learn to sell drugs and make babies before you are given a chance to understand, “Whoa wait a minute, this is stupid.”

    So sometimes, by the time you are old enough to know the wrong in you upbringing, it’s damn near to late to do anything about it. You already have children, you’re already a single parent with no family or friends that will watch you children so that you can go back to school. You can’t afford child care to hold down a full time job because you only have the time while your children are in school and a decent job wont work with your child’s school schedule.

    So YES man, the person in that situation NEEDs their government to help pull them out of that hole. They need assistance for childcare. They NEED assistance with going back to school, getting that GED, so they can get into a community college or a vocational school. So they can turn into someone who makes more money, who spend more money (to stimulate the economy), to be able to get that better job, and take BETTER CARE OF THEIR CHILDREN, so they can have the knowledge to instill in those children, so those children are NOT just as ignorant as they were, so THOSE CHILDREN can be better members of the US, and NOT NEED welfare, or that all evil hand-out as some of you like to call it.

    I agree, from your standpoint, welfare, is just another hand-out for lazy people. Yes, it can be, if government allows it to be. I can be a valuable tool to turn worthless people into better people, if government enforces it to be. if government does no implement regulations on welfare, then it’s not the recipients fault, it’s poor government.

    Hrmm.. should I even go there with Abortion? I suppose I’ll touch it.

    I’ll take this stance, since we’re already on the topic of the lazy hand out takers. The same group of people who are welfare babies are one of the very few who go out and get abortions, being that more babies mean more welfare money. This group, I feel that it is vital to allow to have abortions. Hell we should consider sterilizing this group. Yet, though I don’t know the laws in all states, but in my state a Physician will not perform a tuble ligation, oophrectomy, or hysterectomy on any woman who either does not have at least 2 children, or is not practically nearing menopause anyway. Which is freakin’ beyong me!

    If a woman decides that she does NOT want children, why deny her the choice of removing the reproductive structes that she needs to produce a child. Sorry to say it, condoms suck, and if you can just remove reproductive organs, than this particular group will unfortunately not pull out fast enough and produce a unwanted child. Maybe we ought to create legislation and fight to get women the right to tubles, oophrectomies, and hysterectomies as elective surgeries.

    Anything thing, when education is lacking, and men who do not want children are afraid to get vasectomies, we are doing those men an injustice. If we spent more time educating the public, they will likely make better choices. Maybe instead of making humanities a required course in college, we need to beef of sexual education and parenting courses are graduation requirements. Maybe we need to beef up sexual education in childhood education.

    Though many will argue that sexual education should be taught in the home, and not in the school, believe it or not, there are a lot of parents who have had no education and wont teach their children.

    O.K. here is where that arguement, “Well make those people sign forms saying their kid can go to sex class and I can sign a form saying sex shouldn’t be taught in the school” BS. Ok, if parents are dumb enough NOT to teach their children sex education, a majority of that bunch wont even care enough to sign the form. Sometimes government just has to step in a save the lives of this failed bunch of children.

    Maybe if 40 acres and a mule was life skills educating rather than ostracizing and setting free on the country to turn it into a crap hole, big government would not have to jump in more than 100 years later and fix this problem, and yes, I am going there, because it truly make sense if you can deprogram yourself and think about it.

    Ok, I went off on a bit of a tangent. Back to business.

    (1) Abort children when the parents are idiots because they were unfortunately raise to be idiots. Then sterilize them.

    (2) Abort children in the case of rape and incest. Then sterilize the rapist.

    (3) Abort children with no nuero/tubul defects in utero, hell or any other birth defects that are no curable, or at least treatable to where that child will not need government hand outs to be taken care of like a infant until it reaches 70 years old and dies. Sorry folks, if you HATE welfare handouts. People who are born handicapped and die handicapped to the point where they are never capable of caring for themselves is just as bad, kill them before they are born. Test this mothers/fathers DNA for defects in DNA and inform them if need be that they unfortunately run a small chance of having a healthy baby, and sterilize them!

    Ok there are more reasons to destroy that little bun in the oven, but I suppose you get my point already, abort when it is necessary.

    Why I don’t think adoption is always the option.

    I’ll start with foster care. Foster care is where many of the idiots that should be sterilized go to get another handout. Hey pappy, let’s go get us summa dem fosta babies so we’s can get us a check eri mont. Yea mammy, I heard dem folks be givin u a lotta money. Then they get these foster kids, don’t care at all about them, raise them to be idiots like they are, the the vicious cycle continues.

    Ok. Now on to adoptions. Two points here.

    (1)Adoption has become a very lucrative way for rich greedy lawyers to make money. Have you looked into the cost of adoptions. Jebus man, what is the point of all that money? Counter argument, “If a family can not afford adoption, they can not afford to raise a child.” BS!

    (2)Unless that unborn child is found a surrogate family before born, the chances get slimmer they will ever find a suitable family.

    ok, maybe 3 points.

    (3)If we educated society, we’d have less need for unwanted pregnancies and thus would not need to put children up for adoptions.

    (4) Surrogate mothers who are sought out by families who can not get pregnant, and are given proper maternal care are the true way to adopt children, not through idiots with unwanted pregnancies.

    Ok, I’ll let you bash my every thought before I continue.

    Shoot baby, shoot! :)

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  28. I did not read my above post before posting, so yes there are typo’s…..get over it, I’m sure you can understand what the makes are and how to correct them while reading, except for maybe Bill. :) LoL

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  29. Kendale……. You are 100% correct…..you did go off on a tangent.Getting back to the topic on hand and to ask you the question Christopher asked you yesterday….Just what do you want to change about the Constitution?
    Also if you want to be taken serious why not try to use a more mature arguement than saying “There are more reasons to destroy that little bun in the oven”

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  30. If that was not a good answer to my views on Abortion and Welfare, then I can’t help you in understanding them. You are the one who brought that up, and I simply answered with my views, to state I don’t believe its wrong to….

    “the people who want to hold a new Continental Congress want to do so to inject Abortion,Welfare and affirmative action into the Constitution thus having a reason to justify these beliefs”

    “Also if you want to be taken serious why not try to use a more mature arguement than saying “There are more reasons to destroy that little bun in the oven”

    I speak that way because I add humor into everything I do. If you don’t share my sense of humor, that’s your choice, because my speaking will not change. Though I use statements like that does not mean that my point was not vividly described, and you have to understand the point, if you don’t than you are lacking in communication skills yourself.

    I was not arguing to change the constitution. My point there was solely that things change with time, the country changed with time, so the way we see and do things in government must also change to suit these changes. That is all.

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  31. Kendale ……..according to your post of 18th Novembber at 3:50 AM you stated that “The constitution was written in a time vasty dissimilar to today .so I don’t think the constitution means anything.I am absolutly in favor of a major facelift of the constitution. I would not mind it being completly rewritten to suit 2008.” I ask you again just how do you want to change the Constitution?
    I try to write in english and not Brooklyn street language. I hope maybe you can take it to someone with a higher educatiuon who can translate proper english for you to understand.

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  32. I understand proper English just fine. I retract my comment about the constitution and hope that we may move on, thank you. There is absolutely no reason to be insulting simply because I choose to be sarcastic in my descriptions. I’m sure I can speak and write just as well as you as I have never done poorly on any written paper in college nor have I ever done poorly on any speech or presentation in college.

    I apologize if it is so insulting to you that I choose to speak the way that I do, and not in the fashion that is expected by yourself. Though I suspect we are free to speak in any fashion we choose on this site as long as we refrain from profanity.

    I mean if your passion here is to have spelling bee, or essay contest, just say so, I’m bored enough to oblige from time to time. :)

    I admire your passion for upholding the honor of The Constitution of The United States of America. Maybe you would be so kind as to spread that passion into other realms, such as understanding other points of view, different from you own, and into the capabilities of placing your all mighty being into the shoes of someone other than yourself. This way you may be able to discuss issues more efficiently with those who share a opinion other than that of you own.

    I mean, honestly, my intention is not to get under anyone’s skin. Nor is it to detach myself from reality and rashly try and disagree with anyone here. I simply share my opinions on the topics here that interest me. If that causes some unwanted chaos in your life than ignore my posts. :)

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  33. Kendale………..No one is trying to refrain you from speaking your mind.No one is trying to hold a spelling bee or essay contest.And at no time was anyone trying to stifle your point of view so get off the high horse.Maybe referring to a baby in the womb to your Brooklyn thug friends is called a “bun in the oven”but mature people not only don’t use profanity but can’t be taken serious using these terms.Your crudeness does not inject humor but arrogence and ignorance toward woman and human life.We look forward to others views but this doesn’t mean we have to be conscientious objectors to the war on stupidity.

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  34. First of all, I live in Florida. Second, calling a unborn child a bun in the oven is far from thuggish, and if you have never heard of a unborn baby being called a bun in the oven then you are not from the planet earth.

    Obviously you’re having a bad day, otherwise you’re just a tightwad. I am not arrogant, nor am I ignorant. If that was the case then a majority of the world is. If you are nut a fan of crude humor, again, that is your business, not mine, and it does not make me any less of a good person than you are.

    I am not stupid either. Again, I simply share a difference of opinion with you.

    It’s people like you why they created idiot programs like affirmative action. Because people like YOU can not handle differences of opinion.

    Like I said, if you don’t like what I say, then disregard it. I’m sorry if you feel that your way of life is better than mine, but you know what they call that type of attitude. Prejudice. Ignorant. And other negative labels.

    You keep referring to Brooklyn as if that is a less than good place. How ignorant is that? How Stupid is that? How arrogant are you to use Brooklyn as a place of less than where ever you find to be good.

    I have respect for women and I have respect for human life. Obviously you have NOT been paying attention you angry arrogant freak. :)

    Open you eyes sweetheart, this is earth, not D.D.Maoland.

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  35. Wow

    Google “bun in the oven”

    And you get right at the top, multiple sites that are warm, cute, and sweet, about pregnant mothers. I don’t see any Brooklyn thugs totting guns and shouting swear words. Just pink pages and wholesome cuddliness. You need prayer D.D.Mao

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  36. Wait, I’m wondering. Are you CLAIMING that I don’t have respect for women because of my stance on abortion. Last I checked it was women who get pregnant. Women who have abortions. So for me being pro-choice, how on earth is that being disrespectful to women?

    I’m really at a lose here. How do I not have respect for women? I’m really trying here. Trying to find a way that I disrespect women, anywhere in my life. I have no less respect for women than I do men. That is just bizarre. You really must be having a bad day here. I believe the best rotation I had during nursing school was Obstetrics. If I was a woman I would be working in labor/delivery, mother/baby, and the nursery. The only reason I don’t is because I am a man and I would not want to place a woman in the possibly uncomfortable situation of having a male nurse during such a private and vulnerable position.

    I am a only child. I mama’s boy. All my life I was raised around woman rather than the male figures in my life. I was the kid that got picked on for hanging out with girls more than guys. Hell I was the boy that would freakin’ play dress up and let the girls put makeup on my face. I work with 99% woman every night when I go to work and I get along perfectly with them.

    So where do you come off saying I don’t respect women?

    Not respecting human life.

    What an awkward profession I chose for a person who does not respect human life. I bend over backwards for my patients. I go far beyond the call of duty for my patients. My patients praise me for the compassion I have towards them and consistently ensure me that I take far more time with them to listen to their stories, their worries, their fears, and allow them to get things off of their chest and make them feel cared for.

    What I don’t have respect for are people who judge me, especially incorrectly, based on a difference of opinion.

    Do you not find that you are being arrogant by judging me, and incorrectly at that? Is it not an act of ignorance to do so?

    Who are you to judge me?
    Saying that I talk like some sort of thug?
    I mean do you watch television?
    Have you watched comedy television, movies, stand-up?
    The things I see on television is far more crud than anything that I have said on this site D.D.Mao, and that is a fact.

    Perhaps you live in a bubble. I’m not sure. At least I can admit that I don’t know your situation. I can only judge your defensiveness and you harshness towards me, and other people and places that you chose to categorize and label.

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  37. Kendale……Google this “Brevior Vita es Quam Pro Futumentibus Negotiam Agendo”

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  38. Insult me all you want, it doesn’t change who you are. :) It doesn’t make you clever to throw insults in Latin either, but perhaps it makes you feel better to do so. :)

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  39. Life is to short to be so ugly.

    “All you need is love” – The Beatles

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  40. Kendale……..”Pone Ubi Sol Non Lucet”

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  41. D.D.Mao…..”Timendi causa est nescire”.

    Be not afraid D.D.Mao, be wise. :)

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  42. Kendale

    You are correct we DID actually need affirmative action. Now i see it being used against some minorities. At Mitsubishi Electric they used to hire all Indians and Mexicans while refusing any black or whites. You can’t get them for discrimination because they have hired minorities. They just picked their favorite minority over the other one.

    As far as Welfare goes it needs to be dumped. But just like Iraq you can’t just cut and run in one day. There are a lot of other economical things which need to be addressed before you can consider eliminating or cutting back on Welfare.

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  43. Dreadsen,

    Can you think of another way to take people from being poor and uneducated to being educated and vital parts of the economy?

    I agree affirmative action is not needed like it used to be. So ditch it, but welfare I believe can be good if only people gave a damn about it enough to turn it into something other than a hand out. It could work if IDIOTS were not in charge of the whole program.

    I need to take a deeper look at it, and find out who is in control if it, find the documentation that explains the whole program, then I can point out the details that are IDIOT filled and show how if u eliminate certain parts and add in certain parts it could turn into “Idiot reform” rather than “Idiot driven, and idiot fulfilling”

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  44. SOMETHING has to be done about poor and uneducated.

    We can not just have a poor and uneducated holocaust

    We have to try and eliminate it, ANOTHER way.

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