GOP Senate Worries Deepen with Stevens

The Democrats are looking to pick up quite a few seats in the House and the Senate. The question is, how many? The most recent development in respects to this comes from Alaska’s Republican senator Ted Stevens, who with 40 years of service is currently the longest serving Republican in the U.S Congress. Ted Stevens is up for re-election this November and is facing a more difficult task against his Democratic rival Mark Begich, due largely to legal issues.

After a jury recently found Stevens guilty on seven felony charges of lying about receiving money from Alaskan oil company, Stevens is now facing the possibility of officially expelled from Congress. To make matters worse, the current climate is not one that would allow his peers to support him.

Martin Kady II and John Bresnahan of Politico.com report, October 28, 2008:

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell is calling on Ted Stevens to resign from the Senate – and warning that the longest-serving Republican senator in history will face certain expulsion if he doesn’t leave on his own first.

McConnell, locked in a tough reelection fight in Kentucky, did not call for Stevens’ resignation in his initial statement on the Alaskan’s conviction on seven federal felonies Monday.

Republican Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates John McCain and Sarah Palin wasted no time in separating themselves from Stevens and asking that he resign as well.

While support for Stevens is thin in the U.S Senate, he is still receiving support from the Alaskan GOP. William Yardley of the New York Times writes, October 28, 2008:

ANCHORAGE — The Alaska Republican Party on Tuesday found itself in the awkward position of urging voters to return a convicted felon to the United States Senate. The party is pushing for the re-election of Senator Ted Stevens, who was convicted on Monday of seven felony counts but continues his campaign for a seventh full term, in the hope that his re-election will allow Republicans to hold onto his seat even if Mr. Stevens eventually resigns.

Ted Stevens has the chance of becoming the fifth senator in history to be expelled from Congress. He is mostly recently known for his highly criticized “bridge to nowhere” plan, a $453 million dollar bill to build two Alaskan bridges. In 2005, Stevens vowed he would resign unless the bill passed. While the felony charges are not directly related to the bill, Stevens may end up resigning on account of it anyway.

  • Independent Woman

    Yes, It would be “awkward” urging voters to return a convicted felon to the United States Senate.

  • Babs

    It’s noteworthy to mention here that both McCain and Palin have called on Stevens to resign. As a huge porker, McCain would have gone after him anyway as President. Stevens needs to just sit down, whether he’s guilty of these charges or not.

  • JD

    Trust me… an McCain administration can not afford to “go after” any republicans if he were elected. Since Congress is going to be primarily Democrats, McCain would not want to alienate any of the few republican “friends” in congress.

    So, no, he would not be going after Stevens anyway.

    Still, it goes without saying that this election will be big and not only for the reasons of who will be president.

  • Bill Hedges

    Babs Oct 29th, 2008 at 11:34 am
    It’s noteworthy to mention here that both McCain and Palin have called on Stevens to resign
    JD SAID Since Congress is going to be primarily Democrats, McCain would not want to alienate any of the few republican “friends” in congress…..So, no, he would not be going after Stevens anyway………..jd, Did you read what Babs said or been listening to the news ???

  • IndiMinded

    Wow, he’s running for re-election to the senate, but the poor guy can’t even vote. ‘Awkward’ just doesn’t fully express it.

  • JD

    Bill,

    Yes, I did read it. Where is the confusion?

    I await your response…

  • Bill Hedges

    If you can’t see something in your face, I won’t explain it to you.

  • JD

    Thanks for that Bill.

    you are right I don’t see it but I’ll explain my response for you anyway.

    babs – “McCain would have gone after him anyway as President.”

    This was saying that even if Stevens stayed in the Senate, McCain was going to go after him anyway because Stevens was a huge Pork spender (bridge to nowhere).

    So in other words, McCain is asking for him to resign but it wouldn’t matter anyway since McCain will be going after him because of his pork spending.

    Now my point is that McCain is not going to be going after Republicans for Pork spending. Because after this election there is going to be few republicans left.

    My statement is separate from McCain asking for Stevens to resign because of the crimes he committed. Mine was directed at the idea that McCain would go after Stevens for pork spending.

    Let me know if you need more clarification.

  • JD

    I just noticed a Mark Begich (Stevens opponent) banner advertisement at the top of this page… 🙂

    Is youdecide2008.com using adsense?

  • Bill Hedges

    Bill Hedges Oct 29th, 2008 at 1:34 pm
    Babs Oct 29th, 2008 at 11:34 am
    It’s noteworthy to mention here that both McCain and Palin have called on Stevens to resign
    JD SAID Since Congress is going to be primarily Democrats, McCain would not want to alienate any of the few republican “friends” in congress…..So, no, he would not be going after Stevens anyway………..jd, Did you read what Babs said or been listening to the news ???
    ……………………………………………………Yyou said John would not want to elininate any Republican,,,well he does. So does Sarah

  • Bill Hedges

    JD said-Now my point is that McCain is not going to be going after Republicans for Pork spending. Because after this election there is going to be few republicans left…………………………………………………Jogn said he would veto.. ALL.. PORK

  • Babs

    Bill, don’t try to engage JD. You know from his previous stint on site he’s not worth it.

  • I hope Stevens is not re-elected, though he shot his party in the foot by not resigning a long time ago to let another Republican take his place. Alaska is very “red,” his seat would have stayed GOP. Now he’s basically assured that he’s giving it up to Begich, his Democratic challenger.

    Yes, JD, apparantly Begich is using adsense ads and since we’re discussing Stevens, his ad is here as well. Pretty crafty since you know thousands of sites are discussing Stevens.

    You’d think people wouldn’t re-elect a corrupt politician, but we witnessed it in New York State in 2006.

    Democratic State comptroller Alan Hevesi was running for re-election. He was caught up in a scandal using taxpayer dollars to hire state drivers as chauffeurs for his wife. He was indicted during the 2006 election and it was stated that there was so much evidence, he’d probably be convicted and removed from office if elected. Well, people voted for him anyway and he was re-elected.

    He was removed from office in February of 2007:

    The scandal came to a close in February, 2007 when, after pleading guilty in December 2006 to a charge of defrauding the government, Hevesi was sentenced by Judge Stephen Herrick in Albany County Court to $5,000 fine and barred permanently from elected office. As part of the plea deal, he was given no jail time, and received no probation. Prior to sentencing, Hevesi paid the state more that $200,000 in restitution. Hevesi expressed remorse for his actions and told the judge:”I’m culpable, I’m responsible and I apologize.”

    I hope the people of Alaska don’t make the same mistake with Stevens, it’s not worth it. Toss the bum out if he’s indeed guilty, which it looks like he is.

  • JD

    I agree with you nate but the only good thing I can think is that if he is re-elected and then removed from office wouldn’t that force another election for the seat?

    If so this would allow the republicans to come up with a GOP candidate instead of just turning it over to Begich because Stevens withdraws his name.

  • Bill Hedges

    JD Oct 29th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
    Trust me… an McCain administration can not afford to “go after” any republicans if he were elected. Since Congress is going to be primarily Democrats, McCain would not want to alienate any of the few republican “friends” in congress……………………………………………….

    Then JD SAID LATER–My statement is separate from McCain asking for Stevens to resign because of the crimes he committed. Mine was directed at the idea that McCain would go after Stevens for pork spending……………………………………………….Your second statement does not mention PORK ????????? Is that implied ???? Yeah !

  • Bill Hedges

    Babs–I’ll try harder..

  • JD

    Ok, Bill… Your responses keep getting harder and harder to understand. I have explained my response and you have misunderstood it but that is the history of You and I.

    lets move on and let the rest of the people on here make up thier own minds.

    Besides, if I had made a huge infraction in my statement than Babs would have been defending it since it was directed at her original post.

    Babs – “Bill, don’t try to engage JD. You know from his previous stint on site he’s not worth it.”

    Thanks Babs… I am glad that I am one of the few people on this site that offers a different opinion that the one you, CG, Stalin, EricF, Bill and others.

    For this reason, i understand why you feel I am not worth your time but, to be honest, if you go to the “about” section of this website you will find the following:

    “I believe debate and argument are what make democracy great. So welcome one and all with all points of view. As I see it, everyone is entitled to their own (at some times incorrect) opinion.”

    So this site was created with the notion that you and I could come here and have a discussion on our points of view.

  • Bill Hedges

    JD–You never mentioned ,,PORK..You statesments were wrong. You said McCain needed every Republican. You said he would not be going after Stevens. You said McCain would not go after Republicans that added Pork. All lied. I can understand.. you…do not understand. That’s a given………………………………………………..JD says-.Besides, if I had made a huge infraction in my statement than Babs would have been defending it since it was directed at her original post…………………………………………………Then JD SAYS when talking to Babs– For this reason, i understand why you feel I am not worth your time but, to be honest, if you go to the “about” section of this website you will find the following:

    “I believe debate and argument are what make democracy great. So welcome one and all with all points of view. As I see it, everyone is entitled to their own (at some times incorrect) opinion.”……………………………………………….It appears according to the two paragraphs of yours above, both you and I can make comments on this sit !! Eeven though my comments are as worthless as yours.

  • Babs

    JD, get real. Debate over issues has nothing to do with your trash mouth towards me previously. You blew it with that.

  • JD

    Babs,

    I am real and I am debating over the issues which is why I am suggesting right now that we get back to it.

    As I have pointed out plenty of times before… your ability to only complain about people who disagree with you is numerous while you disregard all the trash that comes out of your conservative friends.

    I was asked to be polite on this site and for that reason I am being so. However, I wish there was the option to reprimand you and others on this site for the trash that comes out of your mouths.

    None the less, I am just as happy as you are to not have you comment on my Posts but I will not refrain from having my opinion, point of view, or commenting on your comments.

  • Babs

    *ROFL* Why would complain about anyone agreeing with me? Reprimand me. Right. You should be so empowered.

  • Bill Hedges

    JD- You speak of trash. You insult Disable voter who was voting. Gave excuse you did not se Nate notation not to do that. Common denency would dictate not to make personal insults.

  • JD

    Babs and Bill,

    get it all out… let the hate flow through you!!! Trust me, I have plenty of one liners and trash talk to give out but I was threatened and the threat was taken seriously.

    Still, let us not rehash the past for too long. No one’s hands are clean and to be honest, I get the jokes like telling some one from asia to “go play” with thier “hello kitty”.

    In fact, I thought it was funny but since this site sees fit to deem calling some one a redneck republican a bad thing than I don’t see why it should not ban the comments like hello kitty ones which makes fun of someone’s race.

    I mean, even babs made fun of a kid asking her to register to vote saying that she told the kid to basically shove it and come back when they are old enough to vote.

    I get it… I really do. Babs, Stalin, CG, and other are allowed to say these things for some reason with no issue what so ever. Maybe it is because liberals are the forgiving kind.

    Still, I know this is going to come back to me somehow so let me just say that I am sorry that i offended Babs, CG, Stalin, Bill, EricF and some others on this site.

    I have realized the error in my ways and I would request that we all play by the rules and leave the personal attacts at home.

    I didn’t think this was something you guys were going to disagree with me on.

  • Bill Hedges

    JD– My hands are real CLEAN. When pushed yes I respond. Buy I can not recall srarting. You are a pusher. Tou start. You Insult, etc..So you have to stop. O.K…I will not take advantage of that. Although you would if I was in your shoes….AS always,, you musy qualify your apology.

  • Nate, when are you installing that spell-checker? 😉

  • NiceKing

    babs, and his fellow conservatives/republicans just make me laugh thinking that McCain is gona go for pork spenders when in fact he is one himself. checkthis out…:
    McSame doesnt evenm know how to use a mobile phone? so imagine how he’s gona answer that ringing phone at 3am in the morning…oh maybe use federal money, tax payers hard earned money to hire someone to pick up calls, and check his e-mail for him. and hes the guy who recently promised to cut federal spending…lol
    oh havin said that he just blew $150,000 in 2weeks on palin’s wardrobe in this financial tsunami. cut spending my ass! yeh i said it. my ass! as my grandma used to say, you gotta learn how to wipe your nose 1st before you attempt to wipe ur butt. $150,000??? on what? diamond undies??coz i really dont see any clothe she wears that matches up to that price…
    the guy doesnt even know how many houses he got 4 flip sake… which clearly indicates that he spends more than he actually needs. the man spends very unwisely. BUT then again you guys might be right..he might actually go for them pork spenders..afterall he is hypocrite… he recently went after George Bush policies…policies he 90% of the time sided with for the entire 8years…he is by far the most un-honourable person to ever run for US presidency…willing to do anything for power regardless the repercussions. he even promised to run a decent campaign nd talk abt the issues that matters only..and out of desperation look where he stands on that now??eating his own words…
    you guys can waste ur votes on tuesday but it just cant derail the takeover…
    im done talkin’

  • Babs

    Number 1, NiceKing, I’m a her, not a him. Number 2, your post is riddled with inconsistancies and half truths. Number 3, I voted 2 weeks ago. When will you be wasting your vote? Oh, I forgot, you’re not in America.

  • Bill Hedges

    NiceKing–Did you mention McCain can not even use a acomputer. Is he dumb ? You know Obama uses computer constantly. But you know, McCain use to fly Jets. Does Obama fly Jets ? Obama was never in war, sorry. Did Obama have bones broken and not mended proper so he could not use a computer ?? Obama can play with a computer.

  • Babs

    Bill, you forgot to mention that McCain doesn’t have the dexterity in his hands to do the things NiceKing thinks is important because he was tortured for our country. But of course he already knew that.

  • Bill Hedges

    Babs–I will wager you $10 that you can not get him or Susan to say one good thing abou Republibans or America. I don’t think they care about real personal woes. If I could I would put Puddy, NiceKing,and Ssusan in the same room for two weeks with no TV…

  • NiceKing

    oh they broke his ribs so he shuld be president. he qualifies…
    i’ve been stabbed here in europe coz i was identified as an american…does that mean i deserve to be a president?? what about the other soldiers who has even lost their hands or legs?? McCain was brought down by a vietnamese pilot in the 60’s. that tells me he was realy really bad in defending our country… vietnamese pilot!! damn. that time the vietnamese plane didnt even have bombs so im assuming he was probably stoned.lol hahahaha
    so check this out. we gave him a batallion of 10 to lead for 4days, he messed it up, got them all captured and tortured, some even killed due to his bad judgment, and zero common sense, and now he wants us to give him the entire country?? GOD SAVE AMERICA!!!

  • NiceKing

    oh Bill, america is the greatest nation in the world and serve as 911 to the entire world. im proud of america, and i love america.
    now about republicans..umm…umm…they are really wonderful. they make wonders happen. i mean they are the only party in the world to ever take a no brainer, put him in office for 8yrs and now the whole world is fuck’d.
    all short presidents are troublesome…Mugabe, Kim jon II, Pres. Bush… and now you guys want me to vote for McCain?? you must be high

  • Bill Hedges

    Thank you for the compliments… NICE…KING

  • Jimmy Boyle

    Get rid of Stevens. The GOP has got to clean house of all the crooks. I knew Stevens was just a arrogant backstabber when he tried to keep funds away from Washington State. It’s a good thing we have two tough women senators in Washington. They kicked his ass. We need the great governor of Alaska, Sara Palin to be the replacement. She will kick ass where you other GOP senators have been either too crooked yourselves or just girley men to clean house before the shit hits the presses. I can no longer support the GOP because of the scandals it has had in its ranks. Don’t even tell me about the donkeys, the GOP must be above the highest in order to defeat the donkeys. If the GOP doesn’t get behind Palin I will turn to the party of the NFL.
    That’s my rant and I’m sticking” to it
    Jimmy

  • Bill Hedges

    Jimmy

    I agree. Not must honesty in Congress. I like Hucabee and Sarh Palin in Congress. Can’t see McCain running in four years. The Governor of LA. is another great Republican. He cleaned house and handied Hurricane well.

    We need a new group of Republican leaders. A group that changes its parties policies. That goes to the people on bad bills and bad pork belly spending. Fights to get good programs and get rid of bad ones. When McCain spoke in Congress of Fanny and Freddy, he failed. And no regulation bill. We need leaders that would have spread the word to all Americans.