“Joe the Plumber” now on tour for McCain (Update)

This may shock some of you, but “Joe the Plumber” has endorsed Sen. McCain for President. Or wait, no shock there as he’s been in the tank for McCain since day one, he just never told the media who he was voting for. He is now, however, going to be doing a bus tour on behalf of McCain for the next week.

Video report from CBS News:

Report from USAToday:

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — “Joe the Plumber” is endorsing John McCain.

The Ohio plumber, whose real name is Samuel Wurzelbacher, campaigned Tuesday for the Republican presidential candidate in Columbus, the first stop in a day-long bus tour.

Wurzelbacher is a registered Republican but until now had declined to say who he was voting for.

Wurzelbacher said Democrat Barack Obama would make America a socialist nation because Obama wants to redistribute wealth. He said he thinks Obama would target the middle class for tax hikes.

Wurzelbacher became an overnight media sensation after he was referred to constantly in the final presidential debate.

He’s since become the central thematic element in speeches by McCain and his running mate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin.

Looks like “Joe” won’t need his plumbing career any longer, looks like he’s now a McCain campaign strategist.

Thoughts on “Joe the Plumber,” will this help or hurt McCain?


The Ohio Inspector General’s office is now investigating illegal access to state databases concerning Joe’s private information, story from the Columbus Dispatch:

Ohio’s inspector general is investigating why a state agency director approved checking the state child-support computer system for information on “Joe the Plumber.”

Helen Jones-Kelly, director of the Ohio Department of Job and Family Services, confirmed today that she OK’d the check on Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher following the Oct. 15 presidential debate.

She said there were no political reasons for the check on the sudden presidential campaign fixture though the Support Enforcement Tracking System.

Amid questions from the media and others about “Joe the Plumber,” Jones-Kelley said she approved a check to determine if he was current on any ordered child-support payments.

Such information was not and cannot be publicly shared, she said. It is unclear if Wurzelbacher is involved in a child-support case. Reports state that he lives alone with a 13-year-old son.

“Our practice is when someone is thrust quickly into the public spotlight, we often take a look” at them, Jones-Kelley said, citing a case where a lottery winner was found to owe past-due child support. “Our practice is to basically look at what is coming our way.”

Ohio Inspector General Thomas P. Charles confirmed today that he is investigating the incident to determine if “Joe”s” records were legally accessed by Job and Family Services employees.

The use of a state computer system to search for information on Wurzelbacher is the fourth uncovered by The Dispatch.

Democrat Gov. Ted Strickland is satisfied that there are no political overtures to the check on Wurzelbacher, a spokesman said.

“Based on what we know to this point, we don’t have any reason to believe the information was improperly accessed or disclosed by a state employee,” said Keith Dailey, Strickland’s press secretary.

The state attorney general’s office said today that information on “Joe” was accessed from a test account it shared with contractors who developed a computer network for the Ohio Association of Chiefs of Police.

The State Highway Patrol is investigating the “unauthorized access,” said Jennifer Brindisi, spokeswoman for Attorney General Nancy H. Rogers. Access to the account was given to the unidentified contractors four years ago, she said.

State Highway Patrol records indicate that investigators have a suspect, who is identified as a contractor for the Ohio Department of Insurance. The patrol has seized an agencycomputer as evidence.

Donna Braxton, acting executive director of the Dublin-based police chiefs group, said she had not been notified of an investigation.

At least four state computer checks on Wurzelbacher were conducted shortly after Republican John McCain frequently brought up “Joe the Plumber” during his final presidential debate with Democrat Barack Obama on Oct. 15.

State and local investigators are attempting to determine if the computer systems were illegally accessed when they were used to pull up information on Wurzelbacher.

Republicans have seized on the incidents to suggest that the checks were politically motivated invasions of Wurzelbacher’s privacy and attempts to dig up dirt to discredit the man. Obama’s campaign says it has nothing to do with the incidents and joined Republicans in calling for investigations.

The attorney general’s office was unaware contractors for the police chiefs’ association still had access to state information, Brindisi said. The contractors developed the Ohio Local Law Enforcement Information Sharing Network, which now is operated by the attorney general’s office. Security codes since have been changed and access limited to test accounts, she said.

The Dispatch reported Saturday that authorities are investigating why driver’s license and vehicle registration information on “Joe” was pulled from Bureau of Motor Vehicles computers.

BMV information on Wurzelbacher also was obtained through accounts assigned to the Cuyahoga County Child Support Enforcement Agency and the Toledo Police Department. Both checks are under investigation.

That’s a shame and speaks to a lack of integrity by those officials illegally accessing Joe’s information. Think about that for a second, you ask a question of a candidate and state officials pull your records to find dirt on you.

Whether you like Joe or not, that’s pretty low.

  • John Thomson

    What I still do not get is why this supposedly ordinary guy said he was preparing to buy a business which makes $250,000 p.a. when it apparently made $100,000 last year.

    It’s a fib plain and simple- and that’s before we get into to the inticacies of the business not being for sale, that even without the credit crunch no bank would fund a guy with his credit record and that if he had made a truthful statement about his income ($40/50,000) it would have been clear that he would benefit from the Obama tax proposals.

    He is either Joe the Dreamer worrying about all the tax he isn’t going to pay on all the income he isn’t going to earn rather than focussing on how he pays the money he does owe or, more likely he is Sam the Surrogate.

    That would presumably account for the Republican fury and rage at any attempts to find out what actually makes the guy tick.

  • the_don


  • Joe The Plumber agrees that a vote for Obama is a vote for the Death of Israel


    Joe the Plumber on his debut making the same statement.


    This fits in well with the Who is Barack Obama, Palling around with Terrorist and now Death to Israel! LOL!!!

  • the_don

    And they wonder why the media is all over Mccain. He does it to himself.


  • I wonder why he doesn’t see that he’s just a propaganda tool for John McTraitor. McCain is just using Joe. In the end, McCain will take us to the kind of “change” that Obama proposes: the dissolution of America’s sovereignty in a North American Union.

  • dale

    Is it just me or did anybody else smell a set up from the start of this fairytale? This isn’t a Disney fairytale either, it’s like one of Brother’s Grimm fairytales that gave you nightmares when you were 4.

  • “Is it just me or did anybody else smell a set up from the start of this fairytale?

    Was Obama’s answer, over which he had full control, also part of the fairytale?

    Let’s just say, for example, that Karl Rove setup Joe the Plumber to ask Obama a question. Did Rove control Obama’s answer? Did someone else make Obama answer the way he did?

    Seriously though, there’s no setup fairytale here. It was a guy asking Obama a question, as dozens of people did that day when Obama walked through the neighborhood.

  • Good for Joe.

    Since McCain and Palin are pimping his name for all it’s worth each and every day anyway, and it was obvious from the start he was voting for McCain, why not make a bit of money with it.

    I’m guessing ‘Joe The Plumber’ dolls will be in every good toyshop by Christmas 😉

  • Pats

    Joe like McCain are both opportunists. Joe’s tale at a time McCain was sinking in the economic crisis, so he grabbed Joe’s tale to hit at Obama’s tax policy. Joe on the other hand is grabbing McCain’s publicity to gain fame for future use. They’ll both face the music.
    It pays to be realistic than opportunistic.

  • Babs

    Did I miss something here? Where is the paragraph that says Joe’s on salary for McCain? I missed that one.

    What that article forgot to mention, Nate, is that 2 of the 3 people that have already been identified in the illegal computer checks are Obama contributors. In fact, Ms. Helen Jones-Kelly contributed $2,250 to Obama’s campaign. But hey, no motive here, just everyday routine procedure, right?

    As Nate said, it wasn’t Joe’s question that’s important. It’s Obama’s answer. Which up until now, couldn’t be pryed from his lips with a crowbar. If you think Joe was planted in his own front yard to trick Obama, forget it. All the investigations have already tried that – it didn’t fly.

    A citizen asked a question – and Obama got caught on camera – again – with his pants down. And that’s the real meat here – not Joe the Plumber.

  • JD

    I want to know why this site has not updated its article to cover the fact that “Joe the plumber” claims that Obama is the DEATH OF ISREAL.


    FOX NEWS is even having a hard time with him saying this.


    Nate – “Seriously though, there’s no setup fairytale here. It was a guy asking Obama a question, as dozens of people did that day when Obama walked through the neighborhood. ”

    Has everyone on his site forgotten what JOE’s original question was?

    “I’m getting ready to buy a company that makes 250 to 280 thousand dollars a year,” Wurzelbacher said. “Your new tax plan is going to tax me more, isn’t it?”

    Come to find out he wasn’t and couldn’t afford to buy but as Nate said lets look at the question not the person.

    Obama said, “First off, you would get a 50% tax credit so you’d get a tax cut for your healthcare costs….. if your revenue is above 250 – then from 250 down, your taxes are going to stay the same. It is true that from 250 up – from 250 – 300 or so, so for that additional amount, you’d go from 36 to 39%, which is what it was under Bill Clinton. And the reason why we’re doing that is because 95% of small businesses make less than 250. So what I want to do is give them a tax cut. I want to give all these folks who are bus drivers, teachers, auto workers who make less, I want to give them a tax cut. And so what we’re doing is, we are saying that folks who make more than 250 that that marginal amount above 250 – they’re gonna be taxed at a 39 instead of a 36% rate.”

    Everyone on here forgets that TAX in general is redistrobution of money. Where CG, Babs, and other are getting confused is that this is a trickle up theory and we have been living in a trickle down.

    Do i have to bring up that WARREN buffet, one of the richest people in the world pays less taxes than his secretary?


    Babs, CG, Ericf, and others believe in the trickle down theory and that the more money that millionares make the better off we will be.

    I and others are of the opposite opinion which is that if you help the middle class keep extra money becuase they are the largest contributers to the economy than the better off we will be.

    This is called a difference of Opinion and I would prefer that we called it as that instead of the crap that has been floating on around here. I don’t know if any of you have realized this but there are many economic theories and for that reason we all will disagree with each other over something.

    Obama is not TAXING the 250+ or 5% of americans at a tax rate of 80%… he is simply raising it from 36% to 39% once you hit the 250,000 mark and restoring the tax code to where it was under clinton, Bush Sr., and Reagan.

    Were we a socialist country under Reagan, Bush Sr, or Clinton? I would like to hear babs, CG, EricF, Stalin and the rest of the conservatives on here answer that exact question. Were we a socialist nation than?

  • JR

    JD hit the nail right on the head. Great post my friend.

  • Babs

    He didn’t claim it, he agreed with it. And the current article in the LA Times would substantiate it. It’s Joe’s right as a citizen to have any opinion he wants. It’s America.

  • susan

    Do some of you not know that is the Jewish Americans control your money markets and politics? They don`t seem to have a problem with Obama,In fact they are supporting him.I am certain they wouldn`t be,if they felt their homeland was in any danger.

  • JD,

    First of all, don’t tell me what I do or to not believe, reread my comment and you’ll see I didn’t even mention any of the things you’re accusing me of.

    Someone implied that Joe’s question was some kind of setup. I simply stated that even if the question was a setup, Obama’s answer wasn’t. Therefore, it’s a silly argument to say that the question was a setup so, therefore, it invalidates Obama’s answer.

    Second, please leave me out of your lists where you claim to know what people support, thanks. You act like just because I stated that it wasn’t a setup, then I must believe the things you listed. Stop attacking me simply because I asked a question to the contrary of your opinion, and stop lumping me in lists with others on the site, thanks.

  • susan

    Joe,Sarah,John,The perfect inept ticket,God Bless America and the world if they should win,but I seriously doubt it.America does provide the world with great entertainment.

  • Bill Hedges

    Susan I would like to see the evidence to back that statemrnt

  • susan

    It is common knowledge,check it out.i thought everyone knew that.

  • susan

    Every securities company in the USA is owned by Jewish Americans.Money controls politics.What is to back up?

  • Bill Hedges

    Susan- Common knowledge is not proof. Saying every security company in USA is not proof. If you are going to make these , kind of racist statements, I want proof.

  • susan

    Internet might be a good start for you and I am not racist,The world is just sick of your country`s political blunders.That greatly affect others,that is all.I have friends from all over the world here in Tokyo and they all feel the same way,including Americans,that, by the way,feel ashamed to call themselves one.

  • Babs, there’s no way Joe isn’t getting paid something. He hasn’t worked the last 2 weeks because he’s been all over the media and he’s a single Dad wanting to buy his own plumbin business (when he gets licensed that is…LOL)

    Pats, if Joe is an opportunist then good for him. Opportunities like this don’t come round that often. He was thrust into the media spotlight and if he can make a few bucks here and there then good for him, it’s no worse than Survivor.

    “The tribe has spoken Joe, you must leave the campaign immediately”..LMAO

  • Pats

    I can’t dispute that, nzpudding. If McCain can grab the opportunity he created, I see no reason he should not grab the one created by McCain. Birds of the same feathers flock together.

  • dale


    Fair point, no Obama’s answer wasn’t part of the fairytale, but the very small sub-set of the answer that got repeated over and over was.

    I was merely making the point that I do smell a rat in the is whole Joe the Plumber circus, as I’m sure many do.

    However Nate, there are a few inalienable truths here. The first of which is that in your comments you make it clear which party you support, so I think you made it fair game for your views to be characterised, since you do on occasion offer them.

    The second is that I do give you the utmost credit for the fact that your views almost never come through in your articles, I really mean that and I respect it.

  • Babs

    Pats, grabbing opportunity is what America is all about. And by the way, it’s the epitome of Obama.

  • dale

    Characterised was not the best choice of words, sorry bout that

  • susan

    Hedges,My facts on the other site,check it out

  • Babs

    Nate, I like Joe the Plumber, he’s my kind of guy. But I’m really getting a crush on Tito the Builder. Can you get some video of him up? He’s one mad dude.

  • DJS

    Obama goes into a neighborhood and he stops to ask a guy who is playing with his son a question and this guy gets slammed by everyone. Just maybe when he asked his question it was a retorical question. He had the right to ask and he had the right to an honest answer and that is what he got.

    All of a sudden this guy is having every aspect of his personal life all over the news. Every state has different laws as far as licensing of plumbers and even electricians. There are some states you don’t need to have a license. Others allow you to do work on your own home without a license but you can’t work on someone elses. Joe works under his boss’s license until he has his hours in to get his license.

    As for how much he could make-I don’t really see what bearing that has on the question he asked. And if he bought the company and decided to add a few more people and took on more work he very well could be making over $250,000.
    As for him campaigning with McCain I say go for it. And if he is getting paid then all the better. If someone had the same opportunity with Obama I would say the same thing. This is someone from small town America. He represents the middle class. More so than McCain, Obama or Biden.

  • Babs
  • DJS

    Gotta love Tito the builder.

  • Deb

    how about Cory the driller.