Video: Biden asks “Are you joking?” during local interview

A couple days ago Sen. Joe Biden did an interview with Barbara West, a local TV news reporter at WFTV in Orlando, Florida. The topics discussed were those which have surfaced over the past several weeks but have been largely glossed over in the media.

When questioned by the reporter whether Sen. Obama’s “spread the wealth” comment was Marxist in nature, Sen. Biden replied asking if the reporter was joking. The exchange was one you don’t see often since not many reporters have pressed Obama or Biden in this manner.

Here is the entire 4 and half minute interview from YouTube:

Technically Biden is correct when he says the Obama/Biden presidential campaign hasn’t paid ACORN a dime for voter registrations. However, Obama’s primary campaign paid $800,000 to an ACORN subsidiary for voter registrations during the primaries, CNN reports:

A subsidiary of the group was paid $800,000 by Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama’s campaign to register voters for the 2008 primaries, and ACORN’s political wing endorsed Obama back in February. But Obama’s campaign told CNN that it “is committed to protecting the integrity of the voting process,” and said it has not worked with ACORN during the general election.

Biden is correct in what he says, but the entire context of the story isn’t being told by his answer, though politicians on both sides tend to include or omit context depending on how they’re trying to come across.

A report on the interview from ABC’s Political Punch:

Biden seems quite taken aback by the anchor’s questions, at one point asking her, “Are you joking? Is this is a joke? Or is that a real question?”

The interview prompted the Obama-Biden campaign to cancel a subsequent interview with Jill Biden.

“The campaign cited ‘an unprofessional interview’ WFTV’s Barbara West did Thursday with Joe Biden,” reports the Orlando Sentinel. “In a statement Friday, Adrianne Marsh, Florida spokeswoman for Obama’s campaign, said the station, in talking with Sen. Biden, was ‘both combative and woefully uninformed about simple facts. … In a line of questioning that would make Rush Limbaugh proud, West even went as far as to quote Karl Marx, a Communist icon, in a disturbing attempt to associate Barack Obama with socialism.'”

It was funny to watch Biden’s reaction to these questions, which the media never dares ask outside of some gutsy local reporter with nothing to lose on the national stage.

The list of questions:

  • If Biden is “embarrassed about the blatant attempt to register phony voters by ACORN,” since Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., worked with the organization in the past
  • If Obama’s comment about wanting tax policies that “spread the wealth” is “a potentially crushing political blunder”
  • “You may recognize this famous quote: ‘from each according to his abilities to each according to his needs.’ That’s from Karl Marx. How is Sen. Obama not being a Marxist if he intends to spread the wealth around?”
  • Regarding Biden’s comment that the world would test Obama and the Obama-Biden administration will need the support of Americans since it might not be immediately apparent Obama did the right thing — “Are you forewarning Americans that nothing will be done and America’s days as the world’s leading power are over?”
  • “What do you say to the people that are concerned that Barack Obama will want to turn America into a Socialist country like Sweden?”

On the question over Biden’s comments concerning Obama being tested in the first 2 years, he seemed irritated the reporter drew such a conclusion. The bottom line though is that Biden’s comments deserved some follow-up, what exactly did Biden mean? So much could be inferred from his comments and I can’t even imagine if Gov. Palin had made similar comments, she would have been questioned into oblivion on them.

Sound off below, was it a good interview or a completely biased, loaded line of questioning? Would you like to see more or fewer interviews like this of both campaigns?


According to the Orlando Sentinel, the Obama campaign will no longer accept interview requests from this station:

Biden so disliked West’s line of questioning that the Obama campaign canceled a WFTV interview with Jill Biden, the candidate’s wife.

“This cancellation is non-negotiable, and further opportunities for your station to interview with this campaign are unlikely, at best for the duration of the remaining days until the election,” wrote Laura K. McGinnis, Central Florida communications director for the Obama campaign.

McGinnis said the Biden cancellation was “a result of her husband’s experience yesterday during the satellite interview with Barbara West.”
WFTV news director Bob Jordan said, “When you get a shot to ask these candidates, you want to make the most of it. They usually give you five minutes.”

Jordan said political campaigns in general pick and choose the stations they like. And stations often pose softball questions during the satellite interviews.

“Mr. Biden didn’t like the questions,” Jordan said. “We choose not to ask softball questions.”

Jordan added, “I’m crying foul on this one.”

So the station isn’t backing down from West’s line of questioning, which surprises me somewhat.


The WFTV reporter who conducted the interview has posted a message on a WFTV blog:

In a call to me Friday evening, West (pictured) said of Biden: “I have a great deal of respect for him. I have a great deal of respect for Sen. Obama. We are given four minutes of a satellite window for these interviews. Four precious minutes. I got right down to it and, yes, I think I asked him some pointed questions. These are questions that are rolling about right now and questions that need to be asked. I don’t think I was rude or inconsiderate to him. I think I was probing and maybe tough. I can’t believe that in all of his years in politics, and all of his campaigning and such, that he hasn’t run into some tough questions before. He’s certainly up to it in giving good answers.”

West is also sticking by her line of questioning along with the WFTV news director.

  • Jake

    I’m an Obama supporter and I actually appreciated that she asked the questions that she did. You can listen to any other reporter ask similar questions, but they’re never as direct as she was with Biden. I wouldn’t say he did well since he didn’t say anything more than what he’s been answering reporters with for months now.

    I honestly think Biden was blindsided by the questions and didn’t expect them whatsoever. I don’t know if he could have done anything more to better answer the questions, but I also don’t think that with his recent history of gaffes that anything he said was out of reach of what we’ve seen from him before.

  • Marion Hodge

    I loved the questions. They were not the usual loaded stuff asked by the likes of Brian Williams or Katie Couric.

  • Bill Hedges

    Jake[- Biden is known for gaffes

  • JD

    It was definitely a BIAS interview and BIAS forms of question phrasing but I though Biden answered them well, reguardless.

    I think it is a joke too, that people would think Obama is the same as Karl Marx but to clearify what Marx quote means by “from each according to his abilities to each according to his needs.”

    It means that every person should give to society the most they are able and consume from society only what they need, regardless of how much they have contributed.

    What is interesting is this “Karl Marx idea” is also found in the bible so maybe he really didn’t say anything new and shouldn’t be given credit.

    From the New Testiment

    Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold, and laid them down at the apostles’ feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need. (Acts 4:34-35)

    And all that believed were together, and had all things common; And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need. (Acts 2:44-45)

    Seems to me that the bible has more in common with Karl Marx than Barack Obama does. Anyway, I thought this was interesting.

    Needless to say, we live in a different society where “The things you own, end up owning you.”

  • Bill Hedges

    Jd- Nrver heard you quote Bible. I don’t suppose you are going to give up all your posessions and follow HIM ?

  • Bill Hedges

    JD- I guess I could tell you your flaws in use of THE BIBLE You notice what you quoted is not a eveyday day thing in USA by good christians…. You need to place the quotes into a context to understand their meaning. You just pull out quotes. Listen to your religius leader when he preaches to you. How he fits the verses into a story showing the intent.

  • LAR

    Something fishy here. Check out her professional, cordial interview with Biden 9/26 at the WFTV site. This 10/23 video has been scrubbed from WFTV. Watching both videos is like watching West play Jeckyll and Hyde. Very strange.

  • “a result of her husband’s experience”

    Who’s husband?

  • LAR,

    You’re correct, it is interesting. You’re also right that the interview posted above from YouTube, which occurred on 10/23, is gone from the video section, what gives?

    Did the Obama campaign lean on WFTV to remove the video from their site? The plot thickens..

    Here’s a link to the 9/26/08 interview with West and Biden:

    Here’s a link to an interview West did with John McCain over a week ago on 10/14/08:

    West also interviewed Obama on 9/12/08, here’s a link to that:

    There’s some perspective to judge by..

  • Stewf,

    They’re speaking of Jill Biden’s husband, Joe Biden.

  • dfelton

    Please vote for Bob Barr, the Libertarian Party candidate for president.

    Why vote for McCain? He voted for the bailout, just like Obama. And both McCain and Obama voted for US government investment in big commercial banks, which is socialist, Socialism, maybe even Communism. Why not send a message to both parties that it is time to vote on principles? Why not? YES, we should!

    Only Bob Barr is moral enough and conservative enough to deal with the issue of housing, Wall Street, and the rest of the current mess. He has not taken a cent from Fannie or Freddie or from any of the Wall Street firms that profit from the bailout. And Bob Barr has the support of Rep. Ron Paul, who did so well in the Republican primary debates.

    Here’s Bob’s Web site:

  • David

    In response to JD: True about what the bible says. However, it is not referring to government, but the church. Am I right to assume that liberals champion a separation of church and state? Then it doesn’t apply. An individual, or non-governmental organization is free to pool their resources and distribute them as necessary. It is no right of the government. Just a side note about Obama being a “community organizer” and Jesus being the same…Jesus was not an elected official, nor did He run for office. He sought to change the hearts of man. He didn’t simply go around giving out money to the poor either. But He did leave His church to help the needy. Just something to think about.

  • JD


    Thanks for the response. I agree 100% in separation of church and state. This is because we live in a pluralistic society that does not believe in any one official religion.

    However, the church (religion) is a form of government. For example, the bible is a hand book or “laws” from god (the king) to follow to be a good “citizen” of the Christian following. This is why you hear people say that prayer should be in schools and so on and so forth… not saying that I agree with it.

    Even the Church collect taxes…10% (tithe). I guess the Christian church believes in a flat tax. 🙂

    Also, a community organizer is not an elected official and neither is Jesus.

    Still, I would love to talk about this more but I know religion conversations gets heated and I am not looking to poke any fires. Not to mention this is going to get way off course.

    I was mearly pointing out that Karl Marx’s comment is simular to what is said in the bible about the christian church.

  • Babs

    Excellent questions – no answers. This reminds me a bit of the interviews – or interrogations – that Sarah Palin has endured. What’s good for the goose…………..

    ‘Bout time someone started asking questions.

  • EricF

    so this station wont get any more Obama camp interviews because they dare question the false messiah? this should give everyone a clue as to what the Obama admin. would be like.

  • Deb

    I feel bad for the interviewer. After seeing what they have done with Joe the Plumber they will be dragging her through the mud. Why can’t they answer the questions? Why can’t we ask any questions? They are running for President and Vice President. We have the right to ask questions and understand what their platform is.
    Babs..How right you are. If someone asked Palin a question like that and the republican campaign said no more interviews it would be all over for her and McCain.

  • Deb

    LAR..the something fishy is that someone has finally got the guts to ask the questions so many of us would like answered. But no one has the right to ask the Obama campaign any question they want to. Isn’t that freedom of speech? We have the right to know. The only person the media is allowed to do this to is Palin. DOUBLE STANDARDS. I for one would like to hear the news media do to Obama and Biden what they have been doing to McCain and Palin. Let’s hear the truth not just want they want you to hear.

  • JD

    Babs – “Excellent questions – no answers.”

    I am not sure why you think he didn’t answer them but he clearly did. I think the confusion some of you are making is not that he didn’t answer but that he wasn’t expecting the questions. But be lets be real…he did answer them.

    Secondly, This is a presidential campaign and their is a lot of strategy with them. Obama\Biden, McCain\Palin are on the home stretch so there is no reason to risk saying any gaffes that could effect you late in the game.

    McCain\Palin would do the exact same if they were the leading campaign but they are not. They are the underdog so they will take any question and most interviews to get their message out. It is just a different strategy.

    Again, Biden answered her questions but I know the conservatives on here don’t want to believe it but i understand why you don’t like the strategy. Your candidate is behind in the election.

  • Frank

    If Americans think that Obama is a socialist then the American people should turn off fox news and start reading a book beceause Obama is far from a socialist.

    Also, Please name a socialist Obama plan, and what wrong about that plan.

  • Four and a half minutes is absurd—One would have to take that much time unloading the questions to make them fair. But probably the interviewer would have fought that—her phrasings don’t, I suggest, deserve much respect.

    The list of questions:

    • If Biden is “embarrassed about the blatant attempt to register phony voters by ACORN,” since Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., worked with the organization in the past.

    Many voters have become so discouraged by the lack of responsiveness of our political system that their participation has dropped off severely—not a good sign of health for a democracy. ACORN’s canvassers may have tried to con ACORN, (and gotten fired for it) but there is no evidence that more than a very few illegal votes may have been actually cast as a result of ACORN’s work over many years.
    Compare that to the vast suppression of votes in the South up until very recently, the coercion of voters by their employers during a number of periods in our history, and the like. Sure, we need to do a better job on registration and being sure that no barriers are put in the way of every lawfully-registered person casting the vote, secretly, that they want to cast, but ACORN is an insignificant part of the broader problem. There are plenty of credible allegations that Republican entities have tried to skew the actual voting process, far more serious than any registration errors.

    • If Obama’s comment about wanting tax policies that “spread the wealth” is “a potentially crushing political blunder”.

    No. The United States started using a progressive income-tax structure in (1918?). The idea that individuals are solely responsible for what they earn short-term and accumulate as wealth over their lives is simply ridiculous—opportunity is very poorly distributed in our society. John McCain himself recently said he wants to expand and equalize such (?) opportunity.

    Furthermore the actual distribution of earnings and wealth bears no relationship to nature’s “Normal” (or Gaussian) curve, which presumably describes how intelligence, qualities of character, willingness to work hard, honesty, and so on are distributed in the human population (as well as how the speed of water molecules in a cup of hot coffee is distributed). History, unequal opportunity, inherited power and wealth, and many other factors obviously “game the natural system.”

    How a society deals with this is a key issue in political economy. We could try a straight 10% tax if we wanted. Most of the high-end folks would hate it—it would destroy many, many of the ways they have set up in the current system to get special treatment for their money. Be careful what you wish for here.

    • “You may recognize this famous quote: ‘from each according to his abilities to each according to his needs.’ That’s from Karl Marx. How is Sen. Obama not being a Marxist if he intends to spread the wealth around?”

    In addition to the above, take into account: Our “spreading of wealth” over many of the years since the 1970’s has been to squeeze it UPWARDS, leaving the median family worse off. If you make your profits selling things to families around the median, and they can buy less and less and less, where does that leave YOU? They are, in most businesses, your major market.

    Moreover, consider the basic need to “fund the Commonweal.” Who pays for schools, bridges, libraries, streets, hospitals, police forces, and on, and on, and on. Oliver Wendell Holmes said, “I like paying taxes—with them I buy civilization.” Those who earn more can be reliably shown to be using the “inherited capital of their civilization”, as the foundation for their efforts—no one starts from zero. In the United States, with its almost ridiculous creed of extreme individualism, we’ve conned ourselves into believing that the individual’s effort is everything. Maybe it counts for a lot, for a while, but those who rise can also fall—can become old, and sick, and cold, and alone. They tend to be MUCH LESS INCLINED to want to rely only on themselves at that point. All of our major religious and social traditions urge that we look for balance.

    Labels don’t matter a lot, actually—the devil is the details. Try using the term “the commons” or “the commonweal” or the “common good”, and see if it gives you a little better perspective.

    • Regarding Biden’s comment that the world would test Obama and the Obama-Biden administration will need the support of Americans since it might not be immediately apparent Obama did the right thing — “Are you forewarning Americans that nothing will be done and America’s days as the world’s leading power are over?”

    No, that’s absurd. I’m far more concerned that John McCain would reflexively send off bombers within an hour or two. Wise Americans can see that war is less and less and less a solution for nearly ANY PROBLEM. McCain, like many “old generals” seems inclined to fight the last war over and over again, and think largely about the use of military force in international relations.

    • “What do you say to the people that are concerned that Barack Obama will want to turn America into a Socialist country like Sweden?”

    Sweden seems to be doing quite well, thanks, if, again, we look at the details. In addition, they had one of these credit blowouts a few years ago and handled it promptly and with little long-term damage. Let’s see if we do as well in the next 3 or 4 years.

  • EricF

    lol Peter was much as you would love to see America pussified its not going to happen. please by all means move to Sweden or any other country of your choosing and take all the other anti-American libtards with you. please im begging!

  • Jenn Bass

    I dont want SOCIALISM and many comment OBAMA has stated have clearly been such. I am not for ACORN and wonder why a man this high in the political arena has such a close relationship to the group, we hear it over and over in the media which I DO BELIEVE he is part of what ACORN is doing and I DONT LIKE IT. I too have been curious and wanted an answer which I DID NOT GET from BIDEN regarding his comments of OBAMA and the World. I do not think BIBEN answered ANY of the question given to him and I will not vote early I will vote and I am now leaning to McCain. I feel the OBAMA campain is buying the votes and the MEDIA and the media I did not think was for sale. If we as Americans cant ask a question without getting railed by the Democratic party and without them trying to filet us before the world I think America is no longer LAND of the FREE and the land where FREEDOM of SPEECH lives. We must fight against people who want to squash a person for asking a question. These question is the SAME ONES everyone in my state are asking right now…today. And still…no answers? when will we get answers? after the election? ….too late then, dont you think?
    Way to go BARB

  • David


    Point taken my man.


  • Malachi

    In response to Jenn Bass, I would first like to say that Joe Biden answered the question concerning Obama and Marxism quite well. One must understand Marxism to understand the question and, as has been my experience, my fellow Americans are typically ignorant regarding Marxist theory. Due to the Cold War, Americans find it is very difficult to seperate Marxism from Communism and herein lies the problem. The basic claim made by Karl Marx is that throughout history from feudalism to capitalism, an economic hegemony has existed between those with and those without. Here is a quote: (for those interested, this quote can be found in ‘The Ruling Class and the Ruling Ideas by Marx and Engels)

    “the ideas of the ruling class are in every epoch the ruling ideas: i.e., the class which is the ruling material force of society is at the same time its ruling intellectual force.”

    Here is an example we can all relate to:

    How does Foot Locker make money in the capitalist economic system? They sell products to us, the consumer, at a higher value than they paid for them and pay their salesmen and women a commision. Is this commision the same ammount that Foot Locker made selling a pair of shoes? No, it is far less. What this means is the shoe salesperson is forced to sell their labor for less than its actual value.

    So, before everyone gets in a stink about Obama being a socialist, lets try and understand what that actually means instead of reverting back to Cold War anxiety about the scurge of Communism.

  • Deb

    Frank…here is your proof of Obama being a socialist.

    Jenn Bass..if you are interested in reading more to be an informed voter check out Obama and Madeline Talbott in regards to ACORN, also check out

    and another one is

  • Don’t forget Deb that McCain for years had socialist ideals

    It’s only since running for this Presidential race and the fact he needs the right for support has his stance changed, some would call that a flip-flop and pandering.

    Going back to the interview, I love it when a reporter asks a question that hasn’t been asked before, it really throws the person off balance.

  • Ransom

    The minimum voting age requirement in The United States is 18. Luckily, this requirement probably means that none of you baby-faced, Jack Bauer Republicans will be old enough to vote on November 4th. My faith in Democracy is restored. Joe Biden mopped The floor with David Bowie’s mom up there and you know it.

  • Frank


    Name one of Obamas plan that is sociast, and name the pro’s and con’s of thos plans please.
    Calling somebody a socialist isnt an argument.

    And also,
    Socialist organisations will always endorse democrats. The democrats are right but not as far to the right as republicans.

  • dale

    JD that was a great connection between Marxism and the Bible, there are many more such connections of course. One of the great things I lament is just un-Christian many Christians are to some of the things within their own holy book. Christian support for the war is of course the most obvious example.

    As somebody who has studied statistics, and more specificly is this case market research, it’s very important to maintain a level of objectivity in the question so as not to influence the answer and thus skew your data.

    For instance, there’s a very big difference in asking:

    “Are you forewarning Americans that nothing will be done and America’s days as the world’s leading power are over?”


    What did you mean when you said Barack Obama would be tested with the first 6 months?

    The difference in the first phrasing is that the question implies and answer, a deliberately partisan answer and as a journalist it is of course very unprofessional to insert such bias into a question.

    Barbara West was using journalistic hackery to make a name for herself. Congrats Barb, looks like it worked a treat, stand by for the call up to Fox News any day.

  • Jinaque

    The ‘questions’ themselves were about good TOPICS.
    But – the way the questions were FRAMED was very biased and not professional-
    The questions were formed as ‘attacks’ (quoting karl marx?? did West want to show she is educated?) — and it provoked a ‘defensive’ response and re-attack from Biden.
    The campaing is justified in cancelling further appearences. The questions were definitely not properly PHRASED or FORMED.

  • JInaque

    Question: “are you embarassed that Obama campaign drafted Acorn…?”

    what kind of questioning is that?!! “are you embarassed..” is that a type of question to be expected from professional media?

    Question: “how is Obama NOT bein a maxist…?”
    No wonder Biden was surprised, and asked ‘is that a joke..’. He was bought up to expect more from the media. However, he answered the question well, and said in the end “it was a ridiculous comparison, with all due respect.”

    At the next question: “are you forewarning that NOTHING is redone and America’s power in the world is over?”
    Answer: Biden was frank and expressed his dissatisfaction by saying ‘I don’t know who is writing your questions..’ and proceeded to defend his meaning.

    He was fair. The media’s West came up as EXTREMELY biased.

  • Gangly

    Does it scare anybody else that there are so many Non-Americans that are pro-Obama? Much like the many, many unaccounted for campaign ‘internet’ donations have come from over seas?

    Again, whether one interprets the questions as ‘loaded’, ‘directed’ or ‘biased’ it doesn’t matter. What does matter, is that the interviewer addressed the topics, and the interviewee suppressed her freedom of speech. We are in for a scary 4 years if this regime takes the hill in DC. In some ways, I am willing to sacrifice 4 years to teach the American People a lesson. I believe there are finally more people in the wagon along for the free ride, than pulling the wagon. I, for one, am getting tired of pulling.

    I consider myself a centerist independent. Nothing aggravates me more than wasting taxpayer money on pork or wasteful programs. I hate voting ‘on party lines’ in lieu of the best vote for one’s constituents. To me, the system is broken. Voting for the blanket statement of undefined ‘change’ for an extremist with, at best, interesting friendships and relationships doesn’t seem like the fix.

    My two-cents. Good day.

  • JD and others:

    I see lots of “assumptions” going on here. I don’t know that anyone posting here knows what the interviewer was intending or what she thinks. She was asking questions that have been asked by many or thought by many, and she was giving Biden/Obama air-time to, potentially, show how such issues/questions are “silly.”

    The point wasn’t that the interviewer was comparing Obama and Marx–I see you think that. She asked, basically, how Obama is different from Marx since many voters perceive Obama’s statements as being similar to those by Marx.

    If Biden can not answer these questions, how should I think he or Obama will sit down with the leader of Iran and not do the same thing (refuse future discussion) because our politicians don’t like the question(s)?

    How easy would it have been?

    “Well, Marx wanted everyone to earn a good living, and I think everyone can agree with that. However, Obama and the rest of us Americans do not want a socialist state even though we want everyone to be paid for their contribution to everyone’s (or this Country’s) success.

    Even the Republicans agree, through the current tax law, that those more able to pay should pay a little more than those who earn enough to “just get by” in life. If elected, Obama would be one of those people who is taxed at a higher rate, and we want to make sure that those who can least afford to pay, especially in this economic climate, can pay those bills that are necessary–housing, food, etc.

    In fact, (I’ll use your quote here) Marx’s statement means every citizen should give to society their “all” and “take,” from society, only what they need, regardless of how much they have contributed. Looking at it this way, that sentiment is also present in the Bible (Acts 4:34-35) , and I think that might also eliminate pork-projects in Congress.”

    Perhaps an answer like that would have cemented the closure of such thoughts from the Republicans (religious base included). However, what Biden did was avoid the issue, avoid answer the question, and look bad in the interview.

    As I have stated, why should a candidate not answer questions posed to them by citizens of this country–especially in an inteview? Please go look up “interview” in the dictionary… It is not like “talking to movie stars” about their lives where we aren’t supposed to ask about the “love life…”

    What Biden did was screw up an opportunity to end the “issue.” If you can’t see that possibility instead of complaining about BIAS, I think you need glasses… I would want ANY candidate to address the issue rather than avoid it and (as a follow up) avoid the media station involved.

    How is he going to deal with Iran from across the table? If he thought she was “biased,” I hate to see Biden’s and Obama’s reaction to Iran’s bias…

    We should hold ALL of our candidates to honest interviews where no questions are off the table. If you argue differently, why do you want to let interviews NOT ask questions of your candidate? That is what I don’t understand.

  • J

    I think the problem with these questions is not the subject matter (yes, ask about these things), but the absurd slant that was used when asking them. Does anyone in their right mind think that Obama wants to turn this country into a socialist one or is himself a Marxist? Why is that John McCain could have the EXACT same ideas for tax cuts, but that wouldn’t be labeled socialist? I’ll tell you why, because it’s his campaign that knows they are losing and are grasping at straws. Unfortunately, some people are too ignorant to understand that, others are too under-education or lazy to look up definitions of words, and still others are too stubborn in their stance of backing McCain that they can’t admit that such terminology is ludicrous and blatant demagoguery.

    As for the ACORN association, give me a break. Not only does Obama NOT give ACORN money, but he doesn’t even work with them anymore. Furthermore, it’s not even ACORN who are really perpetrating the shadiness here, but it’s individuals (acting on their own free will) that work for them. So is Obama responsible for every the action of every person who has ever been affiliated with any organization he has ever been affiliated with? That is just absurd.

    I see Biden’s complete WTF-ness about this interview.

  • George in Orlando

    That was refreshing. Real questions for the left to answer. I know, that means she’s a racist or bias. The left want her to ask questions like, “Isn’t Barrack great?” or “Do you think Obama is handsome also?”

    Get used to it kiddies. If you liked Katie Curic’s interview and despise this one you have a bad hypocritic problem.

    When the country goes through the internation test that Biden says and wants everyone to stand behind them. Don’t even think of it. McCain’s new commercial is great, “It doesn’t have to happen.”

  • Babs

    Peter Cross, and all the rest. The difference is a progressive tax and a socialist agenda is the degree of taxation, socialism crosses a line that Americans do not wish to cross. The progressive tax argument is a lame one, and does not apply to Socialism or Marxism.

    I suggest you listen to this interview of Obama from 2001. He clearly believes redistribution of wealth should have been included in the civil rights movement. For once, think.

    Frank, you wouldn’t recognize a socialist policy if it hit you between the eyes. You live in it, you love it.

  • JC

    In response to JD’s comments relating Karl Marx to the Bible; in the Bible people gave by their own desire. Under Marx, and Obama, it is the government redistributing the wealth. In the Bible reference, people would want to make more so that they can give more. Under Obama, the incentive to make more is reduced as the individual has no discretion as to how it is redistributed.

  • DJS

    Frank and nzpudding…here is some reading for both of you. May take some time to read it all.

  • jen

    To quote Biden…are you serious? Are you all serious? You really think Palin has been attacked by the media? Really? You think the McCain camp didn’t sensor who she talked to? Hmmm…I remember quite distinctly that she was not allowed to talk to the media (even in her own state…I’m from there) except for pre-approved interviews (and there were only a few…Gibson, Couric, etc…). She didn’t and hasn’t answered anything like what Biden was just asked…no one stood up and said, so are you proud that your campaign is advocating that the top 1% of the population should make more than the other 90%? Are you proud to be part of a party that boasts the likes of Bush and Cheney and that under their administration poverty levels have increased from 20% to about 30%? Yeah…no one asks her questions about that…you can think that it has been one sided, but you’re wrong…no one stood up and called McCain a terrorist. Shameful. In today’s times (with us being at war), that to win a campaign, we would actually stoop to such devisiveness as to call our competitor a terrost (why not call him the N word?…Is it any less derogatory?!), oh and not to mention that I’m now aware that parts of our country are deemed “pro-American.” Why not ask Palin, so we’ve heard you mention “pro-American” parts of the country, can you elaborate on what parts are not “pro-American” not “real Americans?” You are absolutely right! What’s good for the goose is good for the gander, and I’d love to see how well she would do w/ some “aggressive” lines of questions myself!

  • DJS

    J..It is obvious that you haven’t done your homework where ACORN and Obama are concerned.

    Obama worked with Madeline Talbott and ACORN.

    And he had money donated through Annenberg Challenge, Woods fund and Joyce fund while he was sitting on their boards. He gave $800,000 of campaign money to ACORN. Some of ACORN is good but not all of it. And this is supposed to be a non-profit, non-partisan organiztion, who the democrats tried to give more money to in the $700B bailout bill.

  • DJS

    jen…here is a list of things that have been said about Palin.

    She has been dragged through the mud. How many reporters were sent to Alaska to dig up dirt on her? How many were sent to Chicago to dig up dirt on Obama? Maybe she didn’t do interviews but Biden hasn’t done many either. Of course they can’t trust him to be interviewed when he says that Obama is going to be tested within the first 6 months. Fair is fair and this has not been fair. The MSM has never questioned Obama’s associates. And I am not just talking about Ayers. He is probably the least of my worries.

    As for poverty level going up with Bush and Cheney part of that is thanks to the mortgage and banking crisis which can be traced back to democrats like Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, and Obama. It isn’t hard to figure out why Obama got the second highest payoff from Fannie Mae. He was in Chicago working with ACORN to push mortgage loans through the banks even though the people couldn’t afford them.

    If you look at the approval rating for Bush it is probably the lowest ever for a president. But we have a majority democratic congress and their approval rating is less.

  • dale


    jen made a great point, get over it. Palin just gave shockingly ignorant interviews, there is no comparison between the two. Take her answer when Katie Couric asked her what newspapers she reads, it was like watching a 12 year old. It wasn’t the result of absurd questions and the like, it was her own ineptitude that was ridiculous, not the bias of the questions.

    What was on display here is a fundamental difference in approach. Right wing personalities stoop to lower levels and more personal attacks designed to appeal to negative emotions such as anger and fear, like saying Obama is palling around with terrorists.

    Democrat voters are typically more affluent and more educated. Those approaches generally do not appeal to them, in fact in many cases it can have the opposite effect. It’s not really that the Democrats are above using such methods necessarily, but in the end it’s all about marketing. Marketing naturally, is all about the consumer, if the Democratic consumer doesn’t like stupid inflammatory negative attacks, they don’t buy them.

    Of course, it’s more of a guideline than a rule, there’s a lot of people involved, exception occur on both sides. Generalities are sufficient for the sake of argument anyway.

    What is interesting in this election is that moderates seem to be turned off the techniques Republicans are using this time, which is nice to see. Not so much from a partisan perspective, but more from a societal perspective. Appealing to negative emotions should not work, asking biased questions should not work, although some of them were decent in message if not in phrasing.

    In short, those approaches appeal to the ignorant and the ignorance in all of us and have no place in a progressive society.

  • DJS

    jen and dale…Palin hasn’t answered anything like the question poised to Biden because she believes we should have the decision to do what we want with our money. Not to put it in the hands of the government to give to whomever they want. And no matter what she was asked and how she answered it she gets bashed. Funny how when she was on SNL the director said he wasn’t voting for her buy his whole attitude changed about her when he sat down and talked to her.
    And dale where do you get your information that democrats are typically more affluent and more educated? I know just as many affluent and educated republicans. But with this election most of the black Americans will be voting for Obama and a good percentage of them are poor and uneducated, and you can find some well educated black people who do not agree with Obama’s policies and will not vote for him.

    But I am not sure dale why you are so concerned. I agree there are a number of people on this board from other countries and other countries in general who want Obama.

    I grew up in a small town and was always taught that you are judged by the company you keep. That is one of my biggest reasons for not voting for Obama. The other is that I don’t agree with the government controlling my life. I want to have the choices I have now.
    Pelosi is already talking about doing something with our 401ks. This is money we are saving for retirement. But she seems to think that we should either be taxed on it before it goes into savings or the other possibility would be for the government to buy out your 401k and add it to your Social Security. This would give us no control at all over our own savings. They estimate about a 3% yearley return. For anyone who has a 401k prior to this year we were getting more than 3% return. If they do this and get away with it the next thing will be IRAs. They see the dollars signs for taxes that we aren’t paying on those and our 401ks until we retire. So much for saving for retirement. You would be better hiding it under the mattress.
    If Obama becomes president the democrats will control everything. The reason we have 3 branches of government is because our forefathers didn’t want it to come to this. This is supposed to be a democracy and we have the right to representation.
    Pelosi already has a $300B bill for Obama to sign and Barney Frank has said that taxes will have to be raised. He didn’t say for certain groups he just said taxes.
    Barney Frank has a new ad out for his reelection. He is blaming the republicans for the mortgage mess. I have already sent letters to the editors of every newspaper in his district. Between him, Pelosi, Reid, Dodd and Obama we are screwed.
    Now the democrats what to pass the freedom ddoctrine. “Freedom” doctrine is hardly the word I would use for a doctrine that doesn’t really allow for freedom of the press and freedom of speech. Although if it was in place this year all the MSM would have had to give equal time to McCain and Palin.

  • Odonata28

    Larry King had this woman on last night and gave her a taste of her own medicine. It was pretty funny. Talk about not answering any questions. What a joke! $5 says she’s the next new Fox News anchor. I think she was just trying to make a name for herself.

  • Babs

    “In short, those approaches appeal to the ignorant and the ignorance in all of us and have no place in a progressive society.”

    Dale, define “progressive society”.