Palin “guarantees” win in PA, Obama talks post-election

While the Obama campaign has been speaking about post-election plans for days, Gov. Sarah Palin has now jumped on the “inevitable” bandwagon in that she “guarantees” a win in Pennsylvania with help from supporters.

First, the report on Obama and his post-election plans via the UK Guardian:

Barack Obama began to speak openly and in detail about the post-election transition period from George Bush’s presidency for the first time yesterday, opening himself up to charges of complacency.

As most polls showed the Democratic candidate’s lead over his Republican rival John McCain still growing, Obama held a meeting in Richmond, Virginia, to discuss with senior national security advisers the foreign policy challenges he would face as president. Bucking the trend, one poll, conducted by Associated Press, showed McCain cutting back Obama’s 7% lead three weeks ago to 1%, on 44% to 43%.

Obama’s comments mark a significant change in the campaign, switching from rhetoric to a more presidential tone.

Although Obama added the caveat that “I don’t want to get too far ahead of myself,” his comments reflected a sense of confidence that his campaign team is finding it hard to hide. At a press conference after the national security meeting, he said that although he had been almost single-mindedly focused on the economy, he had plans ready for Iraq, Afghanistan and other foreign policy problems.

He spoke about having teams in place to deal with foreign and economic policy during the awkward transitional period between November 4 and the inauguration on January 20.

Interviewed yesterday, Obama said a smooth transition was essential to make sure America’s enemies did not take advantage of a shift in administrations.

In another sign of looking beyond the November 4 election, he welcomed a White House-organised international summit on the economic crisis planned for November 15. With Bush as a lame-duck president and Obama as possibly the president-in-waiting, the Democratic candidate would be a key figure. “I am happy today that the White House announced a summit that provides an opportunity to advance the kind of cooperation I called for last month,” he said. “America must lead and other nations must be part of the solution too.” He refused to be drawn into what role he would play at the summit if he was elected president. He said his economic team was already in constant touch with the treasury secretary, Henry Paulson.

To avoid sounding too presumptuous, he said: “Even though the election will have taken place and there will be a new president-elect, we are still going to have one president at a time until January 20, until the new president is sworn in.”

It is risky for Obama to speak so openly about the post-election period with 13 days still to go of the campaign. While his appearance surrounded by national security experts from the Clinton administration and Washington-based thinktanks can make him appear more presidential, it also opens him up to accusations by McCain that he has become too cocky.

Cocky perhaps, which always gets me with these politicians. The people haven’t voted yet and Obama’s in a good position, just have patience for the next few days and you won’t sound presumptuous about winning.

Next, Gov. Palin speaking in Pennsylvania from Yahoo News:

BEAVER, Pa. – Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin set aside Joe the Plumber for Joe the Quarterback — as in Joe Namath — and told supporters at a rally near where Namath grew up that she and John McCain are still in the game and they’re going to win.

“In the biggest game of his life, all the experts had Joe Namath and the Jets written off to defeat. They were up against the elite team that had all the money and they were held in awe by the media.

“And Broadway Joe replied, ‘We’re going to win the game, I guarantee it.’ And they won,” she said of Namath’s guarantee before New York defeated the Baltimore Colts in Super Bowl III.

“Pennsylvania, with your help, we’re going to win this state, I guarantee,” Palin told more than 1,000 supporters who packed a chilly Beaver Area High School football stadium, about 25 miles northwest of Pittsburgh, on Thursday night.

Palin stuck to the campaign speech she gave earlier in the day in Ohio, where she criticized Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama’s interpretation of running mate Joe Biden’s remark that the new president would be tested by an international crisis early in his presidency.

A little less presumptuous perhaps in that she’s not speaking of transition teams and post-election plans, however, I guess politicians must try to rile supporters by “guaranteeing” a win. Still though, words like “guarantee” seem to instill complacency.

My message to both campaigns: Nothing is guaranteed.

  • Babs

    With the help of bitter redneck voters, McCain can indeed win in PA.

    With the help of Joe the Biden’s “guarantee”, maybe Obama can’t. 😉

  • Well, Palin’s comments are typical of any politician trying to muster support (and an air of confidence) to win over a state. Obama’s was a bit over the top.

    What is interesting, if you do the current math, is that Pennsylvania AND Ohio would not break the bank for Obama. Obama needs to lose Pennsylvania, Ohio AND Florida in order to be in jeopardy of losing based on the current electoral college projections.

  • Babs

    I don’t think there’s any doubt that Obama will lose Florida, even though the polls are showing it close. I was there last weekend, and at least the section I was driving through and to, yards were replete with McCain signs. I have family in Orlando and further south, as well, and they seem to be confident in McCain in their areas. I just don’t see Obama taking my home state, but I could be in denial. 😉

    I’ve seen too many electoral college maps, and they make me the angriest. Simply because they take away the majority right. Having said that, I watched a news program on the subject last night. It said if McCain can win PA and FL, he could take it. Don’t ask me the details, like I said, the fact that an electoral college exist makes me angry.

  • Babs

    *ROFLMAO* I just noticed the funniest thing on RealClearPolitics. It reads:

    (Starting October 11 partisan affiliated polls will not be added to the RCP Poll Averages.)

    And underneath, in the list of polls averaged are these polls:

    CNN
    CBS
    ABC
    NBC

  • So what you’re saying Babs is, for the past 2 weeks Obama has been kicking McCains ass in the polls without the help of the partisan affiliated polls? indeed ROFLMAO 🙂

    I can remember back in 2000 Bush “guaranteeing” a win in Florida with his brother Jeb at his side…..hmmmmmm…..we all know what happened then.

  • Michael

    Babs, even excluding the partisan websites, Obama has built up a 7.9% lead (nationally). At least at this moment, the electoral map indicators are paralleling the majority of the people.

    But regardless, this whole electoral college system needs to be renovated or done away with.

  • Babs

    I know Michael, I’m not disputing the lead. I’m laughing at the website’s misstatement. I wonder what they consider “partisan” to be if not these networks.

  • Pats

    Our elders used to say that if you are quarrelling with a blind person and he threatens to hit you with a stone, please run for your life. Don’t underrate him because he’s blind.
    We all know that the McCain/Palin ticket is trailing in this campaign, according to the polls. If Palin boasts that they will win, one should not dispute that. I just hope she’s not intoxicate with the £150,000.00 clothes bought for her.

  • JD

    Michael – “But regardless, this whole electoral college system needs to be renovated or done away with.”

    Couldn’t agree more. If it were up to the popular vote than

    1. Alot more people would be voting (I.E. Demecats in Red States and Republicans in Blue states(

    2. It would force candidates to not just spend all their time in battle ground states.

  • I’m guessing there’s a 3rd Party debate to watch Chris…LOL

  • susan

    Palin must be realy ugly to have spent $9000 on cosmetics in 6 weeks,Not only stupid,but ugly!

  • Kathy

    Susan,

    Grow up! If you want to criticize Governor Palin, do so on the issues and stop being another one of those petty women who can’t stand to see a woman, who may not have the same views as you, be successful.

    And stop perpetuating the media’s sexist drivel. The media didn’t find it necessary to report, ad naseum, on the cost of Barack Obama’s custom made suit that he wore when he accepted the Democratic nomination or the outrageous cost of that stage setting he concocted with the Greek pillars. For that matter, where is all the media “outrage” over how much money Michelle Obama spent in a five-star hotel when she ordered hundreds of dollars worth of lobster, champagne, and caviar? They don’t report it becuase they want Obama to win.

  • susan

    I would love to see a women succeed,Only one that is qualified.Is that too much to ask,in tnese hard times

  • Babs

    Not at all, Susan. And Palin is qualified. If hateful women like you could stop with the ignorant and sexists comments about her long enough to look at her qualifications, you’d know that.

    To use your own analogy, I would love to see an African American succeed, only one that is qualified. Is that too much to ask in these hard times?

    See how easy that is? I didn’t even say Obama had big ears and wears purple eye shadow.

  • susan

    You grow up.It is sad that some Americans would rather see their country crash and burn,than vote a black presidrnt.And trust me it will under a Mc Cain/Palin ticket.I watched Palin in every interview,It was shameful her lack of knowledge and many people both men and women feel this way,However I am confident that the right man will win.Sorry you feel the way you do.Just because I feel that someone is not qualified does not make me sexist.I am a business women myself.

  • Kathy

    Susan,

    You think that I “would rather see [my] country crash and burn than vote a black president”? You know nothing about me, and it’s just like an Obama supporter to shout “racist” to anybody who doesn’t support Obama. I am supporting John McCain because I believe that wealth cannot be created “from the bottom up.” When is the last time that a poor person created a job? Wealthy people create jobs — and I’d rather rely on wealthy people to create jobs than the government. Our government has bankrupted every “program” it’s ever tried to run — and I certainly don’t believe that the government can run any kind of health care system or my 401K. I also vehemently disagree with Obama’s stance on abortion and his belief that judges and Supreme Court justices should “favor” certain groups over others when they come into the courtroom or that they should legislate from the bench. I have lots of ideological reasons to vote for McCain, AND NOT ONE OF THEM HAS TO DO WITH OBAMA’S SKIN COLOR! You can shout “racist” all you want, but it just doesn’t work on me.

    If you feel Governor Palin is not qualified, then explain why based on her policies and her experience. By saying “she’s ugly and stupid,” you label YOURSELF a sexist.

  • Babs

    Kathy, understand Susan is in Japan. They don’t exactly have the country we do, I doubt she even understands our government system.