Biden: Obama will be tested in first 2 years (Update)

Sen. Biden also said, among other things, that Obama’s supporters must stick with their decision to support the ticket during the first two years even though, as Biden put it, the polls might be against some of the decisions made by the new potential Obama/Biden administration.

The report from Political Radar:

ABC News’ Matthew Jaffe Reports: Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., on Sunday guaranteed that if elected, Sen. Barack Obama., D-Ill., will be tested by an international crisis within his first six months in power and he will need supporters to stand by him as he makes tough, and possibly unpopular, decisions.

“Mark my words,” the Democratic vice presidential nominee warned at the second of his two Seattle fundraisers Sunday. “It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We’re about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you don’t remember anything else I said. Watch, we’re gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy.”

“I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate,” Biden said to Emerald City supporters, mentioning the Middle East and Russia as possibilities. “And he’s gonna need help. And the kind of help he’s gonna need is, he’s gonna need you – not financially to help him – we’re gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because it’s not gonna be apparent initially, it’s not gonna be apparent that we’re right.”

Not only will the next administration have to deal with foreign affairs issues, Biden warned, but also with the current economic crisis.

“Gird your loins,” Biden told the crowd. “We’re gonna win with your help, God willing, we’re gonna win, but this is not gonna be an easy ride. This president, the next president, is gonna be left with the most significant task. It’s like cleaning the Augean stables, man. This is more than just, this is more than – think about it, literally, think about it – this is more than just a capital crisis, this is more than just markets. This is a systemic problem we have with this economy.”

The Delaware lawmaker managed to rake in an estimated $1 million total from his two money hauls at the downtown Sheraton, the same hotel where four years ago Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., clinched the Democratic nomination. Despite warning about the difficulties the next administration will face, Biden said the Democratic ticket is equipped to meet the challenges head on.

“I’ve forgotten more about foreign policy than most of my colleagues know, so I’m not being falsely humble with you. I think I can be value added, but this guy has it,” the Senate Foreign Relations chairman said of Obama. “This guy has it. But he’s gonna need your help. Because I promise you, you all are gonna be sitting here a year from now going, ‘Oh my God, why are they there in the polls? Why is the polling so down? Why is this thing so tough?’ We’re gonna have to make some incredibly tough decisions in the first two years. So I’m asking you now, I’m asking you now, be prepared to stick with us. Remember the faith you had at this point because you’re going to have to reinforce us.”

“There are gonna be a lot of you who want to go, ‘Whoa, wait a minute, yo, whoa, whoa, I don’t know about that decision’,” Biden continued. “Because if you think the decision is sound when they’re made, which I believe you will when they’re made, they’re not likely to be as popular as they are sound. Because if they’re popular, they’re probably not sound.”

Biden emphasized that the mountainous Afghanistan-Pakistan border is of particular concern, with Osama bin Laden “alive and well” and Pakistan “bristling with nuclear weapons.”

“You literally can see what these kids are up against, our kids in that region,” Biden said in recalling when his helicopter was forced down due to a snowstorm there. “The place is crawling with al Qaeda. And it’s real.”

“We do not have the military capacity, nor have we ever, quite frankly, in the last 20 years, to dictate outcomes,” he cautioned. “It’s so much more important than that. It’s so much more complicated than that. And Barack gets it.”

After speaking for just over a quarter of an hour, Biden noticed the media presence in the back of the small ballroom.

“I probably shouldn’t have said all this because it dawned on me that the press is here,” he joked.

“All kidding aside, these guys have left us in a God-awful place,” he then said of the Bush regime, promptly wrapping up his remarks. “We have the ability to straighten it out. It’s gonna take a little bit of time, so I ask you to stay with us. Stay with us.”

Audio of Biden’s comments via YouTube:

I think what Biden meant is that, perhaps, our enemies will want to test the way Obama reacts to an international incident with regard to diplomacy.

Who knows, sound off below..

Update

Gov. Palin wasted no time incorporating Sen. Biden’s remarks into her stump:

The Obama campaign responded:

The Obama campaign responded that McCain approach to foreign policy has been “erratic.”

“With our nation facing two wars and 21st century threats abroad, Sen. Biden referenced the simple fact that history shows presidents face challenges from day one,” said Obama spokesman David Wade. “After eight years of a failed foreign policy, we need Barack Obama’s good judgment and steady leadership, not the erratic and ideological Bush-McCain approach that has set back our security and standing in the world.”

McCain has also been hitting Biden over his comments.

  • I thought it was John McCain who was running around fear mongering. Here’s Joe Biden guaranteeing that we will encounter some type of international crisis, terrorist attack, or some kind of war in the next 6 months and the Republicans are the fear mongers, go figure.

    So then, according to Biden, the world will not be testing John McCain because McCain has the experience and doesn’t need to be tested. Again Biden, thank you for illustrating Obama’s inexperience and tossing your own candidate under the Joe Biden gaffe bus, then putting it in reverse, and repeatedly running him over, kudos.

    Biden hasn’t given a press conference in a month and every time he speaks he never disappoints, I’d pay good money to see him live as a one man show in Vegas.

    Biden is giving all you undecided voters the reason you need to vote McCain because we need someone with experience to deal with Joe Biden’s international crisis in the next 6 months.

    Thanks Joe, you’re the gift that keeps on gaffing.

  • How interesting that Mr. Biden can easily prodict something has horrifying as this.. Sounds to me like America needs somebody with extreme experience to deal with this coming crisis. Joe Biden told us to “Mark My Words”. What does he know? Is this a rash statement or does he know something we don’t???? SCARY!! I want somebody with experience to deal with this coming war? Nuclur Bombing? HELP!!!! Now I am afraid.. Why does Biden sound soooo Ominous?

  • Can anyone name the last President that wasn’t tested within their first year?

    9/11 happened within Dubya’s first year and Hurricane Katrina within the first year of Dubya’s second term. No doubt if we go back and research each end every President there’s some crisis or other within their first term that needs serious attention.

    Iraqi’s want America out by the end of this year and America wants to send more troops to Afghanistan. Iran continues to be an headache and Russia seems to be flexing its might again. Lord only knows what China or North Korea are up to.

    So although I can see how the Reps are jumping on this because they’re out of ideas, really? there’s going to be some issue to deal with no matter who is President.

  • I am relieved to finally hear a candidate dispense with the sugar-coating and discuss the need for U.S citizens to be prepared — and that their government needs them. Like pudding has said, every new president is tested (ever hear of 9-11), and undoubtedly the next will be tested as well– regardless of whether it is McCain or Obama.

    Whether you are supporting the Republican, Democratic, or third party candidate, you should be aware that this country is in dire straits- and that the work is going be hard these next two years. There is a lot of cleaning up to do and a lot of economic difficulties. Nothing wrong with stating this.

  • Babs

    I agree, Michael, there is nothing wrong with stating this. Although Biden is alluding to the fact that Obama would be tested as Kennedy was tested for the same reason – youth and inexperience. Kennedy failed that test. Nobody tested Reagan – in fact Iran sent home the American captives quickly under a Reagan administration. Notice Biden didn’t allude to McCain being tested. You only test the inexperienced, not the tried and true with the record. They know where McCain stands – nobody knows where Obama stands, because he’s never had to stand at all before.

    We should all be aware that this country is indeed in dire straits, which makes it unsettling to hear that people think the economy is the only subject anymore in this election. Let us be tested – and thousands more Americans killed on our own soil like 9/11 (ya’ll said it first), and see where the economy lands in priority then.

    You may trust Obama with your wallet, but do you trust him with your life and the lives of your children?

    By the way, can someone tell me this – if Biden should die in office (God forbid), would that make Nancy Pelosi step up as Vice President?

  • Stalin

    What Biden said is probably true but it was a tactical error as far as the campaign goes. Everyone know that any kind of international incedent plays into the hands of McCain. Keep talking Joe, I’m liking him more and more every day. Bill Clinton and Biden should go on tour together. It would be the best thing for the McCain campaign yet.

  • Babs

    Stalin, when asked to comment on Biden’s proclamation yesterday, Charles Krauthammer said Biden is obviously a “republican plant”. *LOL*

    I hope this brings national security back to the forefront, because it’s still the Number 1 issue with me, and I don’t think Obama can be trusted there.

  • Stalin

    Babs,

    What, you don’t want Hugo Chavez, Kim Jong Il (if alive), Akmendlafkjad, and the Castro brothers invited to Camp David to sit around the fire and sing Kumbaya with the Messiah?

  • Babs

    Stalin, shoot no! And I’m afraid they’re going to show up to the White House in Dreadsen’s trojan horse!!

    Did you hear last week that even though Obama is willing to sit down with Akmedenajad without preconditions, Akmedenajad is not willing to sit down with Obama without some really big ones? *LOL* I thought that was hilarious! Apparently, even HE is smarter than Obama!

  • Stalin

    Babs,

    I didn’t here that but I’m not surprised. Way to throw away your trump card Barry. If it’s that easy for Akmesldfkajad to outmaneuver Obama, just imagine what KGB Putin will do to him. He’ll have Barry agreeing to hand Georgia back to the Russians in no time. Neville Chamberlain anyone?

  • If this doesn’t scare you I don’t know what would.He was refering to the way JFK was manhandled by the Russians at Vienna and the Dali-Bamas naive idea he can talk to terriorist without precoditions.There has never been a man so close to the presidency who had so little experience and so much naiveness.

  • DJS

    I agree with DD Mao. I can’t help but wonder if Biden thinks that he made a bad choice to be the VP running mate of a man who may cause more damage to this country then we have seen in the past. Obama is or at least acts naive when he talks about sitting down with different heads of other countries with no preconditions. I can understand why Biden believes something will happen. Of course he will be tested. And where is that going to put us?
    Obama also has no clue what it means to be judged by the company you keep. You don’t have to be part of the gang but if you hang around with them you will be indentified as one. How many extremely radical people does he have to be associated with before people become concerned?

  • Amazed

    Come on. Have you guys even thought about what “preconditions” means? By refusing to even speak to people before preconditions are met, the people or group making the preconditions are saying, “Unless you do exactly what I tell you to do, I won’t talk to you.” How in the hell is that diplomatic?

    Diplomacy requires communication. Until we can sit in the same room with our enemy and find out what their problem is with us, convey our problem with them, and come up with a solution, there can’t ever even be hope for peace except through war or bleeding the country dry of resources through economic embargoes. All the latter two do is make life miserable for the innocent.

  • Joe Biden says the election of Obama may lead to a new conflict, terrorist attack, or a third war. A careful analysis of history says he may be correct.
    http://strategicthought-charles77.blogspot.com/2008/10/can-we-afford-third-war-that-obama.html

  • DJS………..I read a column (it slips my mind now who wrote it) but it was right after the Dali-Bama went to Europe and it ties right in with the JFK connection. It was entitled “Ich Bin ein Beginner”…….PERFECT EH?

  • DJS

    DD Mao I think it is a little freaky. I am so hoping McCain can pull this off. I can’t imagine what 4 years with Obama would be like. Everyone thinks it is bad now. The democrats will have us in so much debt we will never see the light of day.

  • Amazed……………LBJ said over and over if only I could talk to Ho I could make a deal with him as if he was dealing with a Senate buddy who wanted a new road in his district.You and others have to learn there is only one thing the terrorist want and that is to bring you down. They said so in regard to Isreal many times and they are willing to strap bombs to their kids and send them into a crowed market to kill innocent people.Some how you seem to have tunnel vision or you could care less about these people.

  • Bill Hedges

    DD MAO- LDJ was champion of passing major law legislation of his time. Maybe to this day. He was able to get many major Human Eights laws passed. He was a champion at getting concenus when he was in Congress. LBJ , if he wanted to, would have talked to HO. It was his better judgement not to. In Nixon time those small steps had been made, which led to Nixon going to China.

  • Bill …….Yes LBJ passed many human rights laws but that isn’t the topic of this column and we will have to get into that at another time.In regard to LBJ talking to Ho it has nothing to do with being in his judgement.He was use to wheeling and dealing with politicians and he thought he could do the same with Ho. He stopped the bombing of the North many times in hope that it would bring the VC to the nogotiating table but all it did was have them intrench in their positions.The North Vietnamese also stalled the talks with such trivia as to the size and shape of the notogiating table.You see how much talk did on 30th April 1975 when South Vietnam fell to the North and we thought we had a peace treaty signed.
    Nixon going to China had more to do with using the Chi-Comm’s as a wedge between the US and Russia than it did with anything about Vietnam.

  • Babs………..In regard to the question you posed this morning about who would take over if President Biden(ARGHHH)died. After Spiro Agnew resigned as Vice President Nixon nominated Ford as V.P.and he was approved by Congress. When Ford took over as President on 8th August 1974 there wasn’t anyone filling the VP slot so he nominated Nelson Rockefeller (ex-Govenor of NY)and he served as VP after being approved by Congress.

  • DJS

    Babs, According to the constitution, if both the pres and VP are unable to do their job then the speaker of the house is next in line. That would be Pelosi. Scary thought. If something happened to McCain or Obama their VP would step in and then it would be up to them to pick a new VP.

  • DJS

    Biden has made comments about if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and talks like a duck it is a duck as he is referring to McCain and Bush. Well I guess that goes for Obama with his associates.

  • Pats

    I posted this but disqualified. I’ll post it again. When a candidate is bold, outspoken, frank and confident, we call it gaffe. I personnally see Mr Biden’s prediction as frank. I think he owes it to the American people to tell them what he knows through his long term domestic and foriegn policy experience. It has happened before and Americans know this. It was just recently disclosed that intelligent officials are briefing both presidential tickets on this very issue.

  • Pats…………It seems that when President Bush or Senator McCain says we need to be prepared they are accused of being fear mongers and playing the fear card.For eight years now the Democrats have been saying that there is no threat and President Bush and his administration is blowing it out of proportions in order to advance their adgenda of getting out of the Middle East.During the recent intelligence briefings I’m sure they told them that what they are about to learn is “SECRET”.And while being frank is something new for a politician he in no way “OWES IT TO THE PUBLIC” to disclose national security matters he learnt through high level security briefings.If anything this shows a lack of intelligence.

  • To say Biden made a gaffe by speaking the obvious, Obama seems to be up in the polls and McCain seems to be down, with Obama having an average +7.2 according to Realclearpolitics.com

  • Pats

    Thanks DD Mao, I respect your explanation but I definitely refute your last statement, ” If anything this shows a lack of intelligence”. I think there are two ways of looking at this issue.
    1. As you call it state secret, it vital to conceal it to avoid causing chaos in society.
    2. If the threat for 9/11 was disclosed earlier to tthe American people, I believe that would have deter its occurence or even if it had happened, its impact would not have been so devasting.
    Again both are my opinions and stand to be corrected or refuted.

  • Pats……….In regard to your second option it’s easy to play Monday morning quarterback and say it should have been deterred.There are even people who firmly believe it was an inside job by our government.We all have an opinion we are entitled to…….All The Best DD Mao

  • nzpudding………”Polls have become a substitute for thought for many Americans,a substitute for reporting for many people in the media, and a substitute for principles among many of our elected officials”….Kellyanne Fitzpatrick (pollster)
    You see what believing in exit polls in 2004 did for you?

  • Babs

    DD Mao and DJS, Thanks. I did know that Pelosi would step in as third in line, but I couldn’t recall what the procedure was if just the VP dropped. I’m glad it wouldn’t be Pelosi, but at the same time, I fear a second selection by Obama as well.

  • Babs………..Right now the Dali-Bama is probably thinking about “CHANGE” meaning a new VP pick.
    Isn’t it amazing that we are fighting two wars, our economy is in turmoil and our current President is at a low in the polls and the Dali-Bama is only 5% up on McCain?

  • Babs

    Not so, DD Mao, the AP is out with a new poll this morning:

    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D93VM4PO0&show_article=1

    Interesting article, and seems they included a cell phone random survey.

    I was especially amused at the leak of Obama’s own poll in PA yesterday – a 2 point difference, not a double digit difference.

    I’m sure Obama wishes he had chosen someone else, how could he not. Biden has said Hillary wouldn’t have been a better pick himself. 😉

    And yes, given all those factors the Messiah should be up double digits in the polls. But then, John Kerry was up that much, and we know the history on that one. *L*

  • DD Mao, I think that’s one thing we can definitely agree on, “Polls have become a substitute for thought for many Americans” totally agree.

    Some people just don’t educate themselves enough on all the issues and what policies will or won’t affect them from whichever candidate and they look at polls and back the winner at the time. However, the polls are interesting at the moment because they give a gauge on what some people are thinking or feeling at the time and what does or doesn’t matter.

    There’s no doubt McCains campaign has gone negative more than Obama’s and they’ve tried to link him with Ayers over and over again and it hasn’t worked. So why the hell isn’t McCain changing campaign tactics? The economy is the biggest issue at the moment (agreed?) which is why Obama is doing better than McCain in the polls, yet McCain is busy talking about everything else but the economy. And when he does he has no specific plan.

    For McCain to stand a fighting chance in 2 weeks he needs to look at the polls, see what really matters to the voters and get his message out accordingly. Because beating the same BS with the same stick obviously isn’t working for McCain and hasn’t done for some time.

  • nzpudding……….I don’t agree with you on polls.There was a black mayor of Los Angeles named Bradley and when he ran for re-election the polls showed him ahead by a wide margin but when election day came he lost.it was believed people lied to the poll people about voting for him just not to be called racist.This came to be called the Bradley effect.Polls can be juggled to mean anything you want them to mean.
    Perhaps you should listen to more than just CNN news down in New Zealand because Obama has been going after Sarah Palin with much more vigor than McCain has been going after the Dali-Bama.You are right in my opinion about linking him with Ayers doesn’t seem to have much effect because people are focused on the economy.The economy is neither candidates strong suit so both are basiclly staying away from any specifics on how to cure it.And no taxing the rich isn’t a realistic plan it’s all fluff for suporters consumption.
    For a country that is fighting two wars, our economy is in turmoil and the current president is at a low in the polls McCain is only 3 to 5 points behind. Which is basiclly tied with the +/- spread.

  • Babs

    Pudding, no doubt McCain’s campaign is more negative?? Take a look at these figures:

    “Slightly fewer than a third of the stories about Obama were negative, whereas more than a third were positive and about the same number were neutral or mixed. More than half of the stories about McCain cast him in a negative light, whereas fewer than 2 in 10 were positive, according to Pew Research Center’s Project for Excellence in Journalism.”

    http://www.latimes.com/news/politics…,4371353.story

  • rochelle reid

    It’s evident that our country isn’t at it’s all time greatest; therefore, our entire country will be tested no matter who is elected. This entire election exemplifies that our country’s weakest link is the AMERICAN PEOPLE! This election has also shown just how divided we are! Like the saying “divided we are, divided we fall!” If we continue this, the latter is possible! Unity of our country will be tested!