Colin Powell endorses Obama for Pres (Video Added)

For days the rumors have been swirling that former Secretary of State for President Bush, Colin Powell, might be endorsing Barack Obama on his Meet the Press appearance this weekend. Well the time has come early and he has officially endorsed Obama, so what does this mean for the race?

Powell hasn’t has much sway with Republicans for years now, seeming to split with the Bush administration in recent years, however, does Colin Powell have pull with independent voters? I’m not really certain since Powell was an Iraq war architect, arguably one of the most adamant voices making a case for the war.

Video from Meet the Press of Powell making the endorsement:

Seems to me that Powell went out of his way to defend Obama over Bill Ayers and rumors about Obama’s connection to Islam, a bit more than just a simple endorsement. It also seemed to be more of a repudiation of McCain’s prosecution of the campaign, Gov. Sarah Palin, and conservatism in the Republican Party than an endorsement of Obama’s policies, or so I saw as I watched. Powell praised Obama as a “transformative figure” but did not go into detail about policy or much else with regard to whether he agrees with Obama on policy.

Furthermore, how does Powell square his support for the Iraq war with Obama’s criticism? I will have the full interview up soon, perhaps he elaborates.

Report from the AP:

WASHINGTON – Former Secretary of State Colin Powell has endorsed Democrat Barack Obama for president, describing the Illinois senator as a “transformational figure.”

Powell says both Obama and Republican John McCain are qualified to be commander in chief. But, in an interview Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” he said Obama is better suited to handle the nation’s economic problems as well as help improve it’s standing in the world.

Powell expressed disappointment in the negative tone of McCain’s campaign, as well as in his choice of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as the Republican vice presidential nominee. Powell says he does not believe Palin is ready to take over as president, if necessary.

Stay tuned for updates..

  • Dreadsen

    He is part of a long list of other republicans and other upstanding figures which debunks some of the stereotypes some republicans have for Obama supporters. They accuse Obama supporters of drinking the koolaid, being swindled, zombies etc. But don’t assume that some people actually are putting into context the list of very intelligent people who support him. Everybody can’t be stupid. I’m sure they will spin Powell into bowing at the alter or an idiot too.

  • Stalin

    Colin Powell is a user. He used the Republican Party to get to a position of power and then he turns around and shows his true color. He said his decision was not about race, how stupid does he think we are? Perhaps he’s hedging his bets so he can have another cabinet position…that is if his wife lets him.

  • EricF

    yeah its pretty obvious what thats all about.

  • Dale

    A moniker like Stalin is usually not a great sign of things to come so I read your post with trepidation. It’s funny to see Dreadsen’s comment right above, there’s one attack you didn’t see coming!

    I’m surprised to see Powell do that really, but I must say I agree with his major points. Even on face value I think having a black man named Barack Hussein Obama as president sends a strong message to the world that Bush’s failed policies are over. The value of that from a sheer marketing perspective is huge.

  • b

    Stalin the reality is that Powell does not have to position himself for any appointment or job, people come to him for support and advice because he is such a highly regarded and respected statesman and individual. I would hardly characterize his appointment as Secretary of State as the result of him using the Republican party,… Powell like McCain, has been a dedicated soldier and servant of our country and I imagine that he, like McCain, values service to our country pretty much above all else. I think it is funny that people like yourself are seemingly unable to maintain respect for very distinguished and respectable individuals because of their political views. Keep up the narrowmindedness guys, oh yeah you forgot to throw out the “Judas” comments like the Clintons did when Bill Richardson endorsed Obama.

  • JD

    Has anyone noticed that if anyone joins the Obama camp that certain members on this board call those so called people, traitors, users, idiots, and so on.

    it is like they cannot come up with a good reason why said people shouldn’t have gone to Obama or they can’t find a ways to disapprove of these people reasons, so instead they libel\slander their character.

    The truth is the truth and with 150,000 people showing up to see Barack in St Louis and 150 million in fundraising for Obama in September the writing is on the wall.

    The Republican Party needs new direction and perhaps an 8 year Obama presidency will give them time to re-invent themselves.

  • tehmazing

    “The Republican Party has gone farther to the right” bwahahahahaha thats hilarious! John McCain is probably one of the most liberal republicans and he is the nominee. Colin Powell is a comedian now.

  • Pete

    I think Powell elucidated the state of things very well. While McCain is surely a good and fair man, the Republican party as a whole seems to be moving too far right. To me it’s starting to seem somewhat fascist– with many blindly promoting the Republican party for the party’s own sake, not for sound policy. It has nothing to do with McCain- just the ‘american values’ of the republican party.

    I think in this election people will see that those voting for Obama are not voting for the democratic party, they are voting for an upstanding American with a clear ability to lead. I think we will see that republicans are voting for their party, not for McCain (an upstanding man as well).

  • Babs

    I respectfully disagree with Mr. Powell, and I am disappointed with the lack of soundness and substance in his reasoning. I don’t know why I expected a more informed or sound reason from him, but I did. I didn’t expect him to break along racial lines.

    As I said earlier, he is one vote. As am I. I’m sure he wouldn’t be interested in my endorsement of John McCain, and I’m not interested in his either.

    I have said for years – ever since Powell’s strong support for the Iraq War as Secretary of State – that I would have voted for him if he had ran. I’m glad to learn of his poor judgement now before I made that mistake.

  • JD

    Newt Gingrich: “What that (Colin Powell) just did in one sound bite…is it eliminated the experience argument.”

    Virginia Gov. Kaine: “To have the confidence of Gen. Powell in this election is very important. Virginians care about this. We’re a state that loves the military.”

    WashPost’s Dan Balz: Offers reassurance on national security, fuels questions about Gov. Palin’s qualifications. Criticism of McCain’s tone is “damning.”

    “This Powell endorsement is the nail in the coffin. Not just because of him, but the indictment he laid out of the McCain campaign.”

  • AM

    I for one agree with Colin Powell, whom I have had great respect for over his years in the White House. I too disagree with the current campaign that the Republicans have been promoting with intolerance and questioning allegiance. I would like to hear how they would improve our current situation, or what they can offer the American people. We want a leader who is focused on those things, not someone who is looking to spread rumors. I also have questioned the selection of Palin, from someone like McCain who seemed like an intelligence, thoughtful presidential candidate, I am lost as to what her strengths and appeal is as she has not demonstrated much during this campaign.

  • Rayven

    The statement, “I didn’t expect him to break along racial lines” exactly what I expected. I think you guys are playing the race card.There are a lot of republicans that now backing Obama . It is not just his race ,he’s got good ideas.There is a generational thing happening right now.We can not be ruled by the baby boomers any longer.

  • Pats

    Here it comes again. You are calling Mr. Powell names just because he expressed his civil right. What type of people are you? One minute you ask people to think, the next you call them names because they do not comply to your prescribed norms. Of course Mr Powell was a secretary of state in the republican regime but that does not tie him in ransom with the republicans ideology, neither does his being black obligate him to support black candidates. How many democrats supporters and officials of Hillary Clinton crossed the carpet to McCain but you did not throw dust for that?
    Let me tell you this, Mr. Powell was a vetran like McCain, even better, but did not ask the Americans to reward him with the oval office for that like McCain is doing. He sreved America for his love for his country and not in anticipation for rewards. If you are concern about his deeds, go and ask him and stop speculating. If you take McCain’s words as face value, do the same for Mr. Powell.

  • This thread is too funny and obvious. HAD Powell given his endorsement for McCain, I’m sure Babs, Stalin, Eric would have been singing Powell’s praises instead of slating him.

    I think Powell summed up his reasoning for endorsing Obama very well. Will it have a sway in how some people vote? maybe a little but not a lot.

  • Stalin

    b and nz:

    I’ve never been a big fan of Powell. He’s always been a fence rider. He doesn’t have the stones to take a stand on most issues. I am more concerned with his statement that his decision is not about race…BS! Also, he claims to still be a Republican…how can you be a Republican and vote for someone that stands against everything your party has traditionally stood for. By the way, since Powell came out and made his vote public, I have every right to critize him. That is not narrowmindedness, that’s American.

  • Pats

    Hay! Do we call criticising someone for exercising his civil right American? Please please please let’s all wake up and look at this issue squarely. Mr Powell worked for the Bush administration and resigned in the middle of its reign. The reason for his resignation has never been question or scrutinised. Today if he declares his support for an opposing party, a party that opposes the fabrics of the Republican Party, does that nullify his membership to the Republican Party? If a thought like this is not narrowmindedness, then it’s shallowmindedness. Please prove me wrong.
    Mr. Powell, like any other human being, has the right not only to choose but to express himself without fear of intimidation and surpression. Oh please, give civilization a chance.

  • Stalin, Powell has had to be a fence-sitter for many years because of his positions in defence. Just like General Petreaus now, he doesn’t side with either party because he can’t, he serves at the President pleasure.

    I must have missed the part where he claims to still be a Republican, but even if he is, that’s no different than Babs claiming to be a card carrying Democrat who’s voting Republican.

    Over a year ago Powell kept his options open and wouldn’t be pinned down on anyone or for any party. I think he’s a pretty independent guy.
    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=HRA2ojNkxPU

  • Pats

    I wholeheartedly agree with you, nzpudding

  • Stalin

    Pats:

    Good to see you are nzpuddings little English Poodle. Powell is retired so he can say whatever he wants…which he has choosen to do with this announcement. Look, I don’t give a rats azz who he’s voting for, just don’t tell me that Obama’s race has nothing to do with it. Why come out now? In this election? Powell lost any respect I had for him by pulling this stunt.`

  • Here is the funniest part of Colin Powell’s endorsement. Powell said the following:

    “I have some concerns about the direction that the party has taken in recent years. It has moved more to the right than I would like to see it, but that’s a choice the party makes.”

    John McCain is the GOP nominee, what on earth is Powell talking about? If anything, the party has moved toward the center, unfortunately, with the nomination of McCain.

    Either way though, I couldn’t care less about what Powell says or who he endorses, I’d feel sorry for McCain if Powell endorsed him since Powell was just a democrat-in-waiting for several years now.

    Luckily McCain is a little too conservative for Powell, if that’s even possible. Then again though, Powell was never a conservative activist so why is this a big deal?

    Powell stated the reason for his endorsement is that Obama “is a transformational figure”. YAWN! Like we haven’t heard the same from Chris Matthews on Lardball.

    Count me under whelmed with Powell’s reasoning. Of course, the Barry O support wagon is now orgasming itself over Powell’s endorsement even though they trashed and despised him for years after the start of the Iraq War, yet they complain of conservatives dishing out on Powell now, there’s the irony for you.

    So you Barry O liberals, pick a side! Either Powell was a genius for the Iraq War or he’s a genius for supporting Obama, can you explain that one? From a liberal perspective, they claim the Iraq War was an abysmal failure, maybe they’ll take the same line of thinking and apply it to his endorsement of Powell. I’m laughing right now thinking about this one, which is why his endorsement is meaningless, perhaps beyond meaningless in that it hurts Obama more than McCain.

    Either way though, it doesn’t matter since the polls are tightening and the Barry O socialist platform has been exposed, which means John McCain and Sarah Palin are on their way to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

    Sorry Powell, too little, too late, despite your past honorable service to this country.

  • Dreadsen

    “he claims to still be a Republican…how can you be a Republican and vote for someone that stands against everything your party has traditionally stood for.”

    Well we can line up a LOT of republicans who have been siding with Obama.

    Also traditionally Republicans are totally different than what they are now. Which was one of Powells point and has been mine for a while. There is nothing conservative about the war in Iraq or the neo con agenda. Libertarians are closer to what republicans are. No one should stay with a party as it slowly morphs into a hybrid version of their opposing party simply because it has the traditional (R) or (D) in front of it’s name.
    Right now the “Right” is pro war or a neo con agenda. McCAin is more to the “Right” than even George Bush right now on the neo con agenda.

    I also believe that his presentation of his stance totally defeated the race argument. There are a lot of republicans who don’t like the current republican party. Some people may think that the campaign and their robo calls and painting him as a terrorist is fair game. But you can not be angry at someone for being turned off from it. Or not denouncing the efforts to linking him to OBL. I mean look at all the republicans in the media who have been calling out the problems in the campaign.

    Me personally i never looked down on Liberman for his decision because i felt he was for the war. If you were for the war you really didn’t have a choice but to vote for McCain. For some people the War and our international reputation is more major than party lines.

    Suzie Q.

    Do you want video of Powell making it clear that he was given bogus intelligence which he found out they KNEW was bogus when they gave it to him to present to the U.N.? He’s been very open about that for some time. That is why he was for the war. He believed the same thing we were led to believe which we know is false now

  • Mike A

    ** Nuked by Admin **

    Note: Refrain from profanity as it will be nuked every time. Learn to intelligently argue without invoking the “F” word, thanks.

  • Dreadsen

    “Count me under whelmed with Powell’s reasoning. Of course, the Barry O support wagon is now orgasming itself over Powell’s endorsement even though they trashed and despised him for years after the start of the Iraq War, yet they complain of conservatives dishing out on Powell now, there’s the irony for you.”

    Oh another thing.

    Everyone who supports this isn’t responsible for all liberals views YOU are talking about. A lot of Liberals from what i’ve seen have felt that Powell felt used and was against the war. that is why he resigned after one term. So i don’t think we can label everyone as having the exact same mindset as some of the people i have heard or you have heard. That is why i’ve never seen a major campaign of attacks against him.
    And of all the information which Powell has presented since he has resigned there was STILL not attacking machine from the republican party. Everyone always still respected him.
    I guess that’s over for ONE side at least! lol!

  • Stalin there’s no need to call Pat my little English poodle, just because have a similar opinion. That sort of xenophobic mindset is probably why most non-Americans seem to favour “Barry O” (as Dreadsen says LOL) than McCain/Palin. I know Republicans get all defensive when their ‘fantasy world’ (as Bill Maher says) is challenged, but really, you’re more of a threat to yourself than what someone from England, New Zealand, Holland, Canada or wherever else could ever be.

  • IndiMinded

    What I love about conversation threads like this is the subtle irony. Or maybe it’s just hypocrisy. But either way it’s amusing.

    I mean, I would bet just about every bit of the money I have that most of the people who are accusing Colin Powell of racism are also planning to vote for the candidate who best matches their racial profile as well.

    And I’ll bet most every one of these critics will swear race had nothing to do with their own decision! Other people’s decisions? Certainly. Colin Powell’s? No doubt. But not theirs. They’ll just be voting for the candidate they like best, and he happens to share their race.

    Pure coincidence, nothing more.

  • IndiMinded

    In retrospect I should have said “race preference” in place of ‘racism’, which I think is a little strong to be used there, though we’ve heard it used that way a lot this election.

    At any rate, it still seems a double standard that I think many people eagerly apply to Colin Powell, but perhaps not to themselves.

  • Dale

    Can everybody who wants to trash Powell watch the damn video again? Some of the lame attacks are so unfair and show a very shallow, partisan understanding of what he was saying.

    Babs said: “I am disappointed with the lack of soundness and substance in his reasoning.”

    Just because you disagree, doesn’t make him wrong, or lack substance. Colin Powell is a distinguished public servant who has issues with the direction of the party. Your assumption that it’s about race is just that, an assumption. You made it simply because they’re both african american, you could make that same charge against a white person supporting McCain, but somehow I don’t think you would…

    Powell made special mention to praise McCain and said his issues were with the direction of the party, NOT McCain. No more is that exemplified than with McCain’s refusal to pursue the Wright angle while many of his supporters pressure him to do so. McCain has a moral issue with it so chooses not to, against his party. McCain is less the problem than the general party direction. Palin saying Obama pals around with terrorists is another example, McCain would never say something like that because he has too much integrity, again the direction of the party is the issue, not McCain.

    THAT was Powell’s point.

  • EricF

    say what you want but we all know what this is about. first of all he says he was concerned with the Palin pick because of her lack of experience. HELLO! Obama has never done anything as a politician and he is running for president, not VP like Palin. this is just too obvious, Powell endorsed Obama because of race. deny it if you want. i support McCain because he wants to help America, not destroy it. has nothing to do with race. if McCain was black and Obama white i would still support McCain because he has way better plans.

  • U.S.A.

    Well, Well, Well,

    Another powerful vote for Obama. This will help Obama even more although he don’t need it. It may not help with some of you but there are tons of others who see this as a good thing. The fact that some of you are now attacking Powell just shows how biased you are. You people don’t care about the real issues we are up against. You just want to keep up the attacks on anyone who knows what the counrty needs. You are just like McCain and that is why you have lost this deal.

    Look at the issues that need attention and you will see that there is nothing to attack Obama on. I guess you will just ride it out and go down stupid but I bet you don’t yell when Obama helps you.

    Barack Hussein Obama is the next president and it burns your a$$es. Let me put that out there again…

    Barack Hussein Obama – President, ’08/’12

    We will never see McCain as president and that is a good thing.
    Palin can still get in the White house though…..if she takes a tour…LOL

    Obama/Biden ’08
    Obama/Biden ’12

  • This is a funny thing that the usa incompetent guy said – “Another powerful vote for Obama.”

    Funny how liberals crucified Powell for his support and argument of the Iraq war yet today they are rejoicing for him. So was he wrong then or wrong now? I guess it doesn’t matter as long as you tow the Barry O line, you’re acceptable to the Barry socialists among us.

    Another funny elitist thing the usa bozo said – “You are just like McCain and that is why you have lost this deal.”

    Voting hasn’t occurred yet, you haven’t won anything, stop acting like you have whiner. I know you’re using this time to ride the euphoria of Barry giving you excitement in the pants but I implore you to stop crowning Barry as king and let the people vote, unless of course you’d prefer to impugn us all with your brand of socialist elitism.

    One more thing the guy who’s an embarrassment to the usa said – “I guess you will just ride it out and go down stupid but I bet you don’t yell when Obama helps you.”

    Going down with stupid? Pot calling the kettle black comes to mind. Nonetheless, Barrry Hussein Obama will never help me, as he won’t help anyone unless they’re people like U.S.A who sit on their rears and collect their Obama welfare checks. So U.S.A., you better vote for Barry and hope he’ll give you a raise on your steady diet of government checks.

    See, U.S.A. is proud to announce the fact that he’s incapable of supporting himself or his family so he needs Barry O to do it for him, way to be a man bro! U.S.A. please keep in mind that not everyone expects Barry Obama to solve their problems, send them a paycheck, and rebuild their lack of manhood.

    It’s very simple, if you’re voting for Barack Hussein Obama with the hopes that he will “change” your life, you’re admitting that you can’t support yourself, you’re not responsible, and you need Barry O’s socialist thugs to restore your manhood. Good for you U.S.A., the first step in correcting your problem is admitting you have one.

    One day at a time, U.S.A., don’t hide your personal shame by voting for Obama….

  • Dale

    Yeah liberals hated him till he supported Obama, now they love him.

    Republicans loved him, now they hate him, you may have left that out.

    SuzieQ your arguments are pathetic and full of emotion and fear, you don’t even try to actually make any rational arguments, you just want to accuse and denigrate because you don’t have the intelligence to create any cohesive argument.

    Powell was wrong about Iraq, it was never personal. You are all now trying to make it personal. Politics is not personal. The future of your country should be made based upon personal attacks or insults, that’s how fools decide things, not civilised societies.

    When rational argument fails, you can always trust the right to question character, patriotism etc. Personal attacks are not argument, they simply incite anger and ignorance.

    They key flaw in this argument is that to question your government, to question policy, to question IS patriotic. To care about the direction of your country shows you love, it shows you care about what happens to your countrymen, and most of all, it shows the desire to really understand and form real opinions based on fact, not emotion and ignorance.

    Blindly following government or party lines is just lazy and ignorant, it is UNpatriotic.

    O wait, SuzieQ, you said:

    “you need Barry O’s socialist thugs to restore your manhood”.

    Damn that’s a solid argument.

    PS. John Fogerty votes Democrat, so you just look dumb using “SuzieQ” to spout your ignorant right wing rants.

    Oh, susie q, baby I love you, susie q.

  • Bruce

    Such a sad sad day that so called “republicans” can even open their mouths to Bad talk Powell! Or plant his decisions as being racially tinged. Did you people even really listen to the man? He made it Quite obvious that McCain’s campaign is trying to Divide this country with hate and uses of terms like socialist and terrorist. Listen to his story about the Muslim soldier and think about your true thought of others in this world and the DIVERESE nation we have become.

    We are ONE people! ONE Nation! ONE Voice!
    Nothing states that fact better than this

    “Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.

    Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.

    But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate — we can not consecrate — we can not hallow — this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us — that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion — that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain — that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom — and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth” -The Gettysburg Address. President Abraham Lincoln

    Wake Up people It is 2008 not 1950 Can this country Please just Stop the Hate. We need to come together now more than every in out natural history.

  • U.S.A.

    Suzie

    Fear has really set in for you I guess. Aint it cool!

    Let me let you in on a little secret. OBAMA will be the next president and you know it. You may not admit it but just like the whole nation, you know its coming.

    Suzie can you pay my electric bill until Obama gets in??? Obama has already paid my cable/internet bill. That is how I am able to post here….LOL Thanks OBAMA!!!!

    I have never addressed you in a post but I guess you will leave me no choice in the future. You’re gonna love it baby….stick around!

    Obama/Biden ’08
    Obama/Biden ’12

  • It seems Republicans love fear, either living in it or spreading it and if that doesn’t work then they’ll use the Bible and put the fear of God in you, damning you to hell for some twisted reasoning from the good book.

    Two weeks left to go till the election and I wouldn’t put it past Bush to raise the threat level up a notch or two, that will then put the fear back in people and say that McCain is the only one that can save America and the world from imminent DOOM!.

  • PeoplePower

    SuzieQ – you make some horrible arguments…and your attacks of those making rational arguments just singles you out as not worth listening to.

    Sure, some liberals have attacked Powell for his support of the Iraq War. His testifying in front of the UN *swayed* a ton of people in the opposition, myself included.

    It wasn’t until we realized he was given bogus intelligence to *use* him to get the war “Powell certified” that he was forgiven. Though, I’m sure some still haven’t.

    You crucify Powell, as many McCain supporters here have done (poorly), because he supports Obama. Well, he is a level-headed, well-reasoned man who cares a great deal for this country. His vote has sway *because* he doesn’t simply march to the beat of one party, but rather to the country as a whole.

    Back off Powell. If you don’t like his decision, you’re entitled to your opinion, but to attack him for it simply shows your panic.

    And, frankly, anyone who says “Obama will destroy this country” is a straight-up idiot. He will do some amazing things, should you give him a chance rather than simply attack him because you’re so crazily attached to your party rather than your country.

    Remember your guy’s slogan? “Country First” Or is that simply code for “white people first”? Or really, as is so typically Republican (esp. w/this latest crowd) “rich people first.”

    I think McCain is using it more as a patriotic (and *not* nationalistic) slogan. Though his ads and his actions, especially of late, have spoiled it and turned it into only a slogan and not a true sentiment.

    It’d be nice if his followers would use it for what it really means – *country* first. Neither candidate will *destroy* the country…stop acting as if Obama will – or, I’d be very happy if you simply moved away and stopped calling yourself an American, as you’re certainly *not* acting like one!

  • Michael

    It is clear that Powell is more dissatisfied with the direction of the Republican Party, than McCain. I commend him for distinguishing McCain’s campaign from McCain, and for praising both candidates as worthwhile people.

    Powell gave a very clear, detailed, response to why he is supporting a candidate – far more than what I usually hear. Like Nate said, he went out of the way to debunk negative attacks. I did not see anything in Powell’s speech to indicate that his decision was based on race. At one point in his 7 minute explanation, he explained that he appreciated the wide scope of appeal and interest Obama holds for different generations, classes, races, and ethnicities. That was it.

    Everyone gets to make a choice based upon their individual preferences. Powell disclosed the manner in which he chose his candidate. It’s one thing to disagree with the man, it’s another to debase his explanation

  • Pats

    I’m happy to be called any name for expessing my ideas. As you are free to your opinion , so I am. As you talk about someone else, so you expose yourself to others. Lets keep talking so our readers/audience decipher who is who. ” By their fruits we shall know them”

  • Bill Hedges

    Pats- I like what you say. I can respect one who says their peace. Those who make fun of others, act superior, try to fool others are bums.

  • First of all, I never smeared or besmirched Colin Powell as you said I did. I just said I couldn’t care less about who he supports and I’m glad he didn’t endorse McCain, as it surely would have been the end for his campaign.

    You all walk right into it by attacking me and leaving McCain alone, you’re too easy to bait away from the issues, this is entertaining to me because you Barry O liberals think your opinions are so important here, telling us all of the impending doom of the Obama administration.

    I have not crucified Powell or questioned his character, that was the liberals on this board who said the following:

    “Do you want video of Powell making it clear that he was given bogus intelligence which he found out they KNEW was bogus when they gave it to him to present to the U.N.?” – Dreadsen

    “Powell was wrong about Iraq, it was never personal.” – Dale

    Go reread my posts and see, I never questioned his character, I just said his endorsement isn’t going to matter outside the capital beltway, middle America isn’t going to care.

    Wow, a moderate-leaning former Secretary of state endorsed a Democrat for president, this isn’t even worthy of a headline yet you’re salivating over it because you’re grasping at straws.

    Here’s the list of former secretaries of state who endorsed McCain:

    Henry Kissinger
    James Baker
    Larry Eagleburger
    Alexander Haig

    Does this matter? No, I don’t care what any of those four say either since I don’t allow other people to dictate my vote and I don’t fall to pieces when someone endorses a candidate.

    Face it my liberal chums, Obama is dropping in the polls like a rock and McCain is rising.

    I’ll video tape myself watching McCain’s inauguration and send you the YouTube link so you can see what it looks like when people win.

  • EricF

    PWNED!

  • Melvin

    Stalin and EricF,

    I am completely pissed about your uneducated attacks on this man who has served our country in a way you obviously have never considered in your lives. He did not come out of some expensive college into the officer ranks. He worked his way up from the enlisted rank and file and earned his way to the top by his service to this country, and I have personally served under him and it is in completely bad taste that you say he makes his choice based on race.

    For anyone to even make a hint that they believe his choice was race based only shows some small form of racism left in their minds that they need to reconcile themselves with. Just because GENERAL Powell who happens to be black decided to vote for someone who happens to be black doesn’t mean he did it because of race.

    A black person that votes for Obama because he is black is a racist.

    Anyone that believes someone voted for him because he is black is a racist.

    I have to say though I take it as a personal offense for anyone to say that Powell did it following some racial line. That is utter steer feces.

    I am not even a democrat or liberal. I am a soldier. Once a soldier always a soldier. I have spilled my blood for my country, and I would gladly die for my country if it meant my children could have the American I grew up in.

    You people with this; you can’t vote for a black or white candidate if you are the same race without it being about race all make me sick. get over that crap and realize one thing.

    We are all part of the same race “THE HUMAN RACE”
    Everyone voting is “AMERICAN”

    So please drop the BS about Powell voting for Obama because he is black and move on to something more constructive to debate. If you disagree with Powell’s choice because of other issues then so be it, but I did not fight for my country to continually hear this racial crap, and that goes for both sides.

    You liberals need to stop saying that everyone voting for McCain is racist as well.

    BOTH candidates make some good points and some bad ones. Vote for the person that backs the things you want for yourself, and if that person happens to be of the human race then you shouldn’t have to worry about a house cat calling you a racist.

  • JD

    McCain says he’ll be OK if he loses election

    When asked during an interview with Fox News Sunday whether he had considered the fact that he could lose, McCain said: “Oh, sure. I mean, I don’t dwell on it. But look. I’ve had a wonderful life. I (would) have to go back and live in Arizona, and be in the United States Senate representing them, and with a wonderful family, and daughters and sons that I’m so proud of, and a — and a life that’s been blessed.”

    http://blogs.reuters.com/trail08/2008/10/19/mccain-says-hell-be-ok-if-he-loses-election/

    Already talking about if he loses. I have a feeling here are going to be alot of republicans going through the 5 stages of grief if he loses.

  • Suzie Q

    ‘I have not crucified Powell or questioned his character, that was the liberals on this board who said the following:

    “Do you want video of Powell making it clear that he was given bogus intelligence which he found out they KNEW was bogus when they gave it to him to present to the U.N.?” – Dreadsen”

    Well let me address my statement.

    I am not a liberal for one thing.

    2nd lets take into CONTEXT why i said that.

    You wrote this.

    “Count me under whelmed with Powell’s reasoning. Of course, the Barry O support wagon is now orgasming itself over Powell’s endorsement even though they trashed and despised him for years after the start of the Iraq War, yet they complain of conservatives dishing out on Powell now, there’s the irony for you.”

    Then you wrote this.

    “So you Barry O liberals, pick a side! Either Powell was a genius for the Iraq War or he’s a genius for supporting Obama, can you explain that one? From a liberal perspective, they claim the Iraq War was an abysmal failure, maybe they’ll take the same line of thinking and apply it to his endorsement of Powell. I’m laughing right now thinking about this one, which is why his endorsement is meaningless, perhaps beyond meaningless in that it hurts Obama more than McCain.

    Well you are name calling on here everyone here isn’t a barry o liberal as you call it. Next you asked a question. You asked for an explanation for how someone could dislike him for assisting in the Iraq war but now they like him despite that fact? Well your questions begs another question. Do you know what Powell’s advise was during the lead up to iraq? And do you know that Powell resigned after one term? And do you know what he has said since he has been out? I don’t think you do. I assumed you did that’s why i was reminding you about the video. But i guess you aren’t aware of these things so i will explain for you.

    You were making the charge right there that basically Liberals which you have labeled the people in this thread are hypocrites because they disliked him based on his support for Iraq. Well i was debunking that because he came out long ago and explained that he was given false intelligence. And that the people who gave him false intelligence KNEW AT THE TIME that it was false intelligence.

    Let me spell it out again. You asked a question. I assumed you knew about Powell’s testimony about him basically being used so i offered the video evidence. If you doubted it then i would have given it to you.

    Colin Powell a traditional REPUBLICAN unlike other devoted neo cons.He spoke against the war from with in the administration. Gave lots of warnings. And he resigned after one term.
    No one is a hypocrite for supporting him or still having respect for him after he supported the war because he came out and made it CLEAR THAT HIS SUPPORT WAS BASED ON FALSE INTELLIGENCE WHICH HIS PEERS KNEW WAS FALSE.

    John McCain right now has been asked if knowing what he knows now would he still invade Iraq. He said YES. That means knowing that there were no WMD’s, no involvement with 9/11 and knowing right now that the intelligence was false he would STILL INVADE IRAQ. That is proof there that he is dedicated to furthering the neo con agenda. Traditional republicans do NOT support this ideology.

    The neo cons have replaced the republicans and their traditional philosophy with a liberal foreign policy of 1960’s and earlier. Their agenda has become part of the majority of the Right Wing base and their supporters. Powell was right. McCain is moving MORE to the right. His agenda is arguably even MORE of a neo con agenda than the current one.

    And just for the hell of it

    You want to stack up the resumes of those secretaries of states? They are not the same. A sec of state isn’t just a sec of state.
    Would you be proud to have said that you were friends of Henry Kissinger for last 35 years?

    The trail of Henry Kissenger documentary in 8 parts

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJ4X6a9PhNo

  • Stalin

    Melvin:

    You sir, really piss me off. How do you know that race had nothing to do with his endorsement? As Rush pointed out, where are his endorsements of white liberal politicians? Powell has traditionally kept quiet when it comes to politics. Yet, now he feels the need to thrust himself onto the public scene. I have every right to question his motives, so watch it with the uneducated remarks. I commend your service, but don’t you dare pretend to know what I may or may not have done to serve my country. For your information it was my life long dream to go to the Air Force Academy. I dedicated my adolesence to that end. I was accepted by the AFA but was denied a POLITICAL nomination. How ironic. I subsequently jointed the AFROTC. So don’t sit there and pretend to know me. Your service does not grant you the right to ridicule others for choosing a different path.

  • OBAMA_SUCKS

    Hm??????? I wonder why Colin Powell endorsed Senator Barack Obama?

  • Rayven

    Why don’t you quit playing the race card Stalin. I have heard Rush say many thing that is very pre-judging. Powell supported Bush.
    And O_S he told you why.Besides aren’t you supporting McCain because he is white.Melvin, has and intelligent answer that is not based on pre-judging.So please stop using the race card .It is unbecoming of you.Powell gave a very well thought out answer. Can McCain do the same? They both are around the same age.They should be retired and giving advice.That generations time to rule is over.Besides Party First (sorry Country First right).Grandpa McCain\Gossip Queen Palin’08

  • A bit of a deal is being made that McCain has the backing of 4 former Republican Secretaries of State, you’d expect him to have them. When he gets the backing of a Democratic one then he can start shouting from the rooftops.

    Incidentally, of the four Secretary of States McCain has on his list, two of them (Kissinger and Baker) agreed with Obama’s approach with Iran to negotiations without precondidions.

  • Stalin

    Rayven:

    You completely invalidated your argument in that last statement. I’m not playing any race card, but you are playing the age card now aren’t you. I’m not voting for McCain because he’s white, I’m voting against Obama because he will destroy this country with his plans for social engineering, weaking our defense, and further damaging our economy with a dangerous attempt at redistribution of wealth.

  • Rayven

    First off Stalin, to validate my point,McCain is 72,he has kids,and his kids have kids.That means he is a grandpa. Sarah Palin has said many times that Obama “pals around” with terrorists referring to Bil Ayers, which IS invalid because Ayers made decisions in his youth, which he has admitted to them being bad decisions, over 20 years ago. So her observations of this situation are sheer gossip to make Obama look bad. In short grandpa and gossip queen.

    I don’t think I quite understand what your getting at on the whole defense weakening and social engineering? I don’t watch Fox news. As far as I recall Obama want to strengthen the military and wants to make the tax system fair. The top 1% of income earner have been paying less than 5% taxes on their income, while the 90% at the bottom are losing more than 25% of their income. If you make 3 million a year because you live in country that allows you to do that, don’t you think that the patriotic thing to do would be to support your country the same as the “little guys” do?

    Now take a look at this
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/obamas_welfare.html

  • Bill Hedges

    Rayven—Ayers NEVER APLOZIED…If fact, HE SAID THEY DID NOT GO FAR ENOUGH

  • Stalin

    Rayven:

    I really don’t know how to respond to you…as recently as 2001 Ayers said he didn’t do enough, stomped on the American flag in a Chicago Magazine interview and said that the notion of the United States as a just and fair and decent place “makes me want to puke.” Ayers is unrepentent, look it up or read my article, “Buyers Remorse”. You don’t need to watch Fox News to get this information, but it might do you some good. Please sight your source for your statement that the top 1% of income earners only pay a 5% tax rate. That is a gross inaccuracy.

  • Norris Hall

    Is it about race?
    Only one person knows for sure…and it’s not Limbaugh.
    Powell claims that he’s not happy with the “rightward shift” of the Republican party. But is there any merit in his accusation???
    Listen to the views of Republican Senator Michelle Bachmann
    Video of Senator Michelle Bachmann on Hardball
    So…what do you think??. is Colin Powell was just being overly sensitive, or does he have a point???

  • Babs

    “If you make 3 million a year because you live in country that allows you to do that, don’t you think that the patriotic thing to do ”

    Welcome to the board, Joe the Biden. 😉

  • PeoplePower

    Stalin – Powell worked for Clinton and later supported Bush.

    The idea that you would quote Rush as your main support that Powell’s decision was racist, was disappointing. Rush has admitted himself that he has simply been passing along the talking points from the White House (e.g. Rove) – Fox parrots these points as well. They need to be filtered out and the *facts* need to be assessed, not how they’re spun.

    Powell supports Obama for the reasons he stated.

    Some of the things McCain is proposing are solid plans (bust politicians for earmarks and overspending, publish the budget, etc.), but I think McCain is wrong (or terribly wrong) with a lot of his other policies, which is why I support Obama. I don’t agree with every single thing Obama is proposing, but he presents the best options and the most inclusive policies and the most solid plans to truly strengthen our country again.

    As has been said many times, by Obama and others, “never in history has a nation held onto their military pre-emininence while their economy has sunk.” (Not an exact quote, but the idea is presented) Well, fiscal mismanagement by Congress and this President have greatly weakened our country s.t. we *owe* way too much money to countries that don’t really support our agenda (China & Saudi Arabia).

    To say that Obama will destroy this country is foolish, short-sighted and shows your blind support for party over country.

    Regardless of who wins, the people need to voice their views of the policies they wish to enact without trashing the person/party being their *only* argument against it. But, more importantly, the people who work for us need to listen – not blindly follow the polls, but listen and if they disagree, tell us why.

    We are a democracy, not a dictatorship. Being President does not mean you should ignore public opinion entirely. You do need to be mindful of the emotionalism of public opinion, but that simply means you *persuade* the people that you are right…something called leadership, which GW Bush lacks severely and McCain has shown a similar lack of.

  • Rayven

    Why did we fight the Vietnam war?Ayers was against the Vietnam war,that is what he protested against.There never a recent interview to ask him.You aren’t being fair you are spreading gossip.
    If I am wrong about the bush tax cut than show me evidence from you perspective.
    Separatism will destroy the United States.United we stand divided we fall.

  • Stalin

    PP:

    I really don’t care if you are dissappointed that I cited Rush Limbaugh. I happen to agree with that assessment as it brings up a very valid point. When has Powell ever endorsed a white liberal for any position? It seems to me that if McCain would have picked a different VP, Powell would have endorsed McCain. It is very odd to make your endorsement based on a VP pick. What policies that McCain is proposing are “very wrong”. I don’t agree with nearly everything he does, but I’m curious. The economic crisis was caused by many factors including the creation of the CRA by Clinton. To vote against McCain because of the current economic condition is foolish, especially since Obama’s policies will make it worse. It is my opinion that Obama will be a disaster for this country, it is based on extensive research on the man and is neither foolish or short-sighted. Don’t talk down to me as it doesn’t suit you well. Believe me I have many reasons to vote against Barack Obama, and his party or personality are the least of them. You talk of leadership. McCain has more leadership in his pinky than Obama will ever have. Leadership is not a speech.

  • Yes McCain has good leadership in inciting riots and fear of Muslims. That he has a whole lot of. Right now the Republicans are preaching more anti american hate of democrats. Who do you think kicked this off? I can’t believe people don’t expect people to be turned off by this and call this “leadership”? It shows what kind of “leadership” they actually want for this country.

    Stalin for your entertainment

    http://www.236.com/news/2008/10/20/powell_wasnt_so_black_when_he_1_9656.php

    People Power

    Yes Rush Limbaugh and his Audience really take pride in his statements. Remember that lady at the McCain rally saying Obama was an Arab. Where did she get it from? hmmmm

    Limbaugh on September 22nd

    “these polls on how one-third of blue-collar white Democrats won’t vote for Obama because he’s black, and — but he’s not black. Do you know he has not one shred of African-American blood? He doesn’t have any African — that’s why when they asked whether he was authentic, whether he’s down for the struggle. He’s Arab. You know, he’s from Africa. He’s from Arab parts of Africa. He’s not — his father was — he’s not African-American. The last thing that he is is African-American. I guess that’s splitting hairs, I don’t — it’s just all these little things, everything seems upside-down today in this country”

    Lotta credibility in that guy. Hey we should all cite him since he has such phenomenal wisdom.

  • PeoplePower

    Stalin – please read up a bit more on the CRA. First off, it was enacted under Carter in 1977 (expanded by GHW Bush, Clinton & GW Bush). It has nothing to do with forcing banks to make bad loans and everything to do with assuring banks aren’t excluding someone from getting a loan based solely upon where they live (or their race) – e.g. no redlining.

    If you look at the statistics for the subprime fiasco – which regions of the country were primarily involved in receiving them – they are primarily non-urban areas. Which generally means they were not within the CRA regulations. Additionally, many of the institutions involved in the subprime problems are not CRA compliant.

    As for McCain’s policies I don’t like:
    – further tax cuts following Bush’s (and the Republicans) trickle-down theory (I wish they’d let go of this awful & failed policy)
    – Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran (a neocon agenda being spoon-fed to him from somewhere, contrary to the old McCain)
    – diplomacy in Bush’s style (don’t talk to someone w/o pre-conditions). It’s a failed policy that the Bush administration has finally recognized as well (no more North Korea in the “axis of evil”) and so have several of McCain’s advisors.

    Bush’s rhetoric stirred up Iranian fear of us attacking them. Their very next presidential election they tossed out their moderate leader (Khatami) and brought in their very own sabre-rattling version of Bush (Ahmadinejad). If McCain wins, Khatami will likely lose the election this coming summer and we’ll have a clear belligerent in the region still.

    If McCain’s rhetoric is at all similar to this warmongering rhetoric from his campaign, we’ll have more wars and more trouble getting anything truly done about the really serious problems in the world. I see no reason for it to be different, despite it being contrary to the old McCain’s views.

    If he wins and is able to put his economic plans in place we will further weaken our economy and our military pre-eminence will diminish rapidly…how’s your Chinese?

    We will decline as Russia grows and their dominance of energy over Europe and position over the Middle East will severely harm this country, as well as Europe. Our Cold War victory will have become moot and we will have lost, in the end…

  • He said his decision was not about race, how stupid does he think we are? -Stalin
    I would have respected Powell more if he would have just come out and said it this was ALL about race. It would have taken guts and that’s not something Powell has ever shown in his political career.

    “It is clear that Powell is more dissatisfied with the direction of the Republican Party, than McCain.”-Michael

    Oh please, Michael you must have known this man was a wash out. He may have been good at his job which was to protect our country, but he sucks at being a politician.

    Has anyone else noticed that Ben Bernanke has all but endorsed Obama? What in the hell was Bush thinking when he appointed some of these so called “republicans”. Do you remember when Powell was appointed as the secretary of state, the man wouldn’t travel and even admitted he hated to travel. Who cares if there was chaos in the middle east, that washed up old politician wanted none of it. Whatever, I’m glad to see him go, now promise you’ll stay gone.

  • Bill Hedges

    People Power-I agree that Clinton did not cause sub-prine, he wanted to help poorer people get the American dream. Acore caused sub-prime to blossaum. Acore came from a radical group. I do not remember their name. Acore used heavy handd tactis alone wiyh normal pressurers.Example would be a group going to the banker’s home. Group filling up the lobby of a bank, and group breaking into a board meeting. Congressmen Dodd and Frank are long time supporers…

  • PeoplePower

    Bill – no idea what “Acore” is. Is that it’s full name or is it an acronym for something?

    The general problem isn’t easily pinned on one individual or group, but a few key groups are the trouble-makers.

    Nearly any politician with a long career has had their hands in the cookie jar.

    Corporations are driven by profit-motive, almost exclusively, so any way they can improve their bottom-line will be tried, oftentimes at the expense of our safety, health or financial situation.

    The Republican Party is rife with privatizing the profits and socializing the losses of corporations and calling this “free market economics.” I’m not sure if this is a new thing (Reagan & beyond) or if it has been a central theme of the party. The latter seems to be the case.

    Before you, or others, get up in arms I don’t believe that all Republicans think this way nor do I believe that no Democrats do. There are corporatist Democrats who are of the same mindset. Although, I think the more liberal Republicans have been driven out of the party recently.

    It all disgusts me. Either you actually believe in the free market righting itself (I don’t) or you believe in socializing the losses *and* profits (I do, to a limited extent).

    Doing a little of both here and there is a recipe for disaster and I think we’re paying the piper, or starting to.

  • Seems the Reps are having brain farts over Powell’s support for Obama saying it’s race motivated – how pathetic!

    But lets go along with the delusion that it is race motivated, can we then expect Condolezza Rice to suddenly endorse Obama? By the Reps reasoning I think we can, then it’s 4 Secretary of States each WOOOOO-OOOOOO!

  • CG– I am simply assessing what Powell said. Can you provide some evidence for Powell actually having a covert racist reason for supporting Obama?

    Incidentally, I do not see us claiming that White people are racist when they give their support for McCain…

  • Limbaugh Logic

    “I happen to agree with that assessment as it brings up a very valid point. When has Powell ever endorsed a white liberal for any position?”

    From Rush’s Email

    “”Secretary Powell says his endorsement is not about race, . OK, fine. I am now researching his past endorsements to see if I can find all the inexperienced, very liberal, white candidates he has endorsed. I’ll let you know what I come up with.”

    Or better yet.

    I don’t see anyone claiming that LIEBERMAN is a racist.

    Using Rush Limbaughs logic Lieberman is a racist too.
    How many 72 year old Republican Black candidates has Lieberman endorsed?

    Maybe we should look at ANY democrat who is voting for McCain. Like the “Democrats for McCain” who were at the RNC.
    Some claimed they were voting Democratic their entire life then decided to vote Republican now??

    How about some of the Hilary supporters who were democrat but are now voting for McCain? I guess they are racist too huh? Or the few blacks who were supporting Hilary who are voting for McCain. They gotta be racist too.

    By the way Mike Savage has made the same claim. These guys are real geniuses aren’t they?

  • Bill Hedges

    People Power– Sorry for my spelling error. Acore should have been Acorn.

  • Babs

    “Yes McCain has good leadership in inciting riots and fear of Muslims. That he has a whole lot of.”

    Now Dreadsen, you know that’s a lie. You’re becoming more and more delusion as the election approaches. Take a breath.

    Powell said that the Republican party had gone too far to the right to suit him, although admitting that McCain is and has never been on the far right. What was that about? He claimed that McCain had gone negative, when it is Obama who has been the most negative, and especially about the war – the war that Powell talked the UN into backing.

    Powell’s looking for a little love and some hugs from the left. He has nothing in common with Obama concerning policies. Why else would he endorse him………except for race or the possibility of a job?

  • Bill Hedges

    Babs- Thanks fr saying the UNITED NATIONS backed the war..Soeone has been saying I was wrong about that.

  • Stalin

    PP

    Yes, it was signed into law by Carter, but it really came into play under Clinton. ACORN used the law in the 90’s to harass banks and prevent them from any expansion or mergers until they agreed to lower credit standards and finance ACORNs “counseling” efforts. “ACORN protesters will break into private offices, show up at a banker’s home to intimidate his family, or pour protesters into bank lobbies to scare away customers, all in an effort to force a lowering of credit standards for poor and minority customers.” The CRA did call for more lending to the poor and minorities but the wording was vague and ACORN pounced on this. Fannie and Freddie bought up these risky mortages and the rest is history. CRA paved the road for ACORN. Under Bush 41 ACORN didn’t have much teeth, but the Clinton administration welcomed them with open arms, even having monthly meetings with ACORN. The Clinton administration went so far as to float an idea to provide up to 1 trillion in Fannie and Freddie backed loans to low-moderate income households. I think you need to look into the fine details of what went on here rather than glossing over it. The CRA caused a domino effect

    “As for McCain’s policies I don’t like:
    – further tax cuts following Bush’s (and the Republicans) trickle-down theory (I wish they’d let go of this awful & failed policy)”

    That’s interesting, because according to Obama, he’s the one that’s cutting taxes… 95% of us will get a tax cut…remember that one.

    “- Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran (a neocon agenda being spoon-fed to him from somewhere, contrary to the old McCain)”

    This was said as a joke and even Akmed#$%kljad has acknowledged that

    “- diplomacy in Bush’s style (don’t talk to someone w/o pre-conditions). It’s a failed policy that the Bush administration has finally recognized as well (no more North Korea in the “axis of evil”) and so have several of McCain’s advisors.”

    This is just flat out dangerous. Even the Iranians want pre-conditions! The fact that North Korea is dismanteling their nuclear operations sounds like a triumph to me.

    “Bush’s rhetoric stirred up Iranian fear of us attacking them. Their very next presidential election they tossed out their moderate leader (Khatami) and brought in their very own sabre-rattling version of Bush (Ahmadinejad). If McCain wins, Khatami will likely lose the election this coming summer and we’ll have a clear belligerent in the region still.”

    First off, Iran has supported terrorism well before Akmesldkfjad. So blaming Bush for getting him elected is ridiculous. Do you have exit polls that suggest otherwise? Well, I don’t know about you, but when you have a country that is hell bent on producing nuclear weapons and wiping out entire countries, I really don’t want a milquetoast president dealing with them by sitting down to coffee.

    “If McCain’s rhetoric is at all similar to this warmongering rhetoric from his campaign, we’ll have more wars and more trouble getting anything truly done about the really serious problems in the world. I see no reason for it to be different, despite it being contrary to the old McCain’s views.”

    To the contrary, who’s the one that said he was going to attack Pakistan? Unfortunatly, we live in a very dangerous world and sitting on your hands while singing Kumbaya just isn’t good enough.

    “If he wins and is able to put his economic plans in place we will further weaken our economy and our military pre-eminence will diminish rapidly…how’s your Chinese?”

    I’m a small business owner so I’m very tuned into the economic policies. Please explain how taxing my company (which is me because it’s an LLC) will help me hire more employees or expand my operations. Taxing anybody in an economic downturn is a recipe for disaster. There are companies who are already anticipating an Obama victory and have started laying people off in anticipation of the coming hostile economic environment. Talk about China, I’ll bet there is alot of money heading overseas so that it doesn’t get taxed to death. Why would you base a company here when you can go to Ireland which is very business friendly?

    “We will decline as Russia grows and their dominance of energy over Europe and position over the Middle East will severely harm this country, as well as Europe. Our Cold War victory will have become moot and we will have lost, in the end… ”

    This is exactly why we need someone like John McCain. Putin will make Obama piss his pants.

  • Bill Hedges

    Stalin- Regan cutting taxes has caused longest Wall street bull market. It got stopped dad by sub-prime. More Coperate tax cut could coninue Bull market. However market does not always go up and world condition has certainly changed. But rasing this tax wll not help. Did not help in GREAT DEPRESION. I personal believe lowerig is right idea.

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