Supreme Court rejects GOP bid, backs Ohio’s Brunner

The story of voter fraud in Ohio sort of came to a conclusion today with the United States Supreme Court overturning the Federal Appeals Court and affirming the Ohio state court’s decision saying that the Ohio Secretary of State, Jennifer Brunner, did not have to supply a way for counties to verify new voter registrations via social security numbers or identification cards.

Here’s the report from Yahoo News:

WASHINGTON – The Supreme Court sided Friday with Ohio’s top elections official in a dispute with the state Republican Party over voter registrations.

The justices overruled a federal appeals court that had ordered Ohio’s top elections official to do more to help counties verify voter eligibility.

Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner, a Democrat, faced a deadline of Friday to set up a system to provide local officials with names of newly registered voters whose driver’s license numbers or Social Security numbers on voter registration forms don’t match records in other government databases.

Ohio Republicans contended the information for counties would help prevent fraud. Brunner said the GOP is trying to disenfranchise voters.

In a brief unsigned opinion, the justices said they were not commenting on whether Ohio is complying with a provision of the Help America Vote Act of 2002 that lays out requirements for verifying voter eligibility.

Instead, they said they were granting Brunner’s request because it appears that the law does not allow private entities, like the Ohio GOP, to file suit to enforce the provision of the law at issue.

About 200,000 of 666,000 voters who have registered in Ohio since Jan. 1 have records that don’t match. Brunner has said the discrepancies most likely stem from innocent clerical errors rather than fraud but has set up a verification plan.

McCain campaign manager Rick Davis said lower court rulings have clearly said the HAVA regulations require the secretary of state to match against the list, find where there’s been fraud and inconsistencies and report them to counties.

“Why in the world would that not happen? We have the technology, the budget, the means and the manpower to make that happen. Do we really want to have to find out after the fact that we had counties that would have been decided one way or another because the secretary of state didn’t bother doing the job the HAVA required?” Davis told reporters on a conference call. “I think the secretary of state ought to do her job,” he added.

Brunner’s assertion that verifying new registrations would “disenfranchise voters” seems dubious, at best. This should concern voters of all stripes since there are 200,000 potentially fraudulent registrations floating around Ohio, which could have votes assigned to them in the end, as either Obama or McCain.

Keep in mind that Bush’s win over Kerry in Ohio during the 2004 election was only by around 118,000 votes, so 200,000 potentially fraudulent votes is something of great concern, since that kind of fraud could shift and election either way.

A more detailed, legalistic explanation from the SCOTUS Blog:

The state GOP had complained that the Ohio Secretary of State had violated her duty, under federal election procedures law, to share with county election boards the lists of voters whose names in a voter registration database do not match data in the state’s drivers’ license files. The GOP argued that the secretary of state had put a stop to required efforts to pass along the non-matching data so that local election officials could deal with it. Lack of matches could be the basis for challenges.

The Supreme Court said it was not expressing any opinion on whether the state official had violated any duty under federal law. But, it said, it was not persuaded that the federal law gives a private party — like the state GOP — a right to go to court to enforce those provisions in the Help America Vote Act.

Under that act, voters whose eligibility is challenged at the polls may have to file provisional ballots, which would be counted only if their right to vote had been verified. Because Democrats have succeeded widely in efforts to register voters, it was generally assumed that such challenges in this election cycle would fall more heavily on that party than on the GOP. Tens of thousands of registrations might have been put in issue.

The Supreme Court, acting on the case after the Circuit Justice, Justice John Paul Stevens referred the matter to the full bench, not only granted the secretary of state’s plea to stay the federal judge’s temporary restraining order, but actually vacated it, thus removing any legal obligation spelled out in that order.

The Sixth Circuit Court in a 9-6 ruling had refused to stay the order.

So it goes.. Hopefully this has no effect on the outcome, let’s pray it does not and the Ohio results, regardless of which way they end up, are concrete and accurate.

  • Babs

    “About 200,000 of 666,000 voters who have registered in Ohio since Jan. 1 have records that don’t match. Brunner has said the discrepancies most likely stem from innocent clerical errors rather than fraud but has set up a verification plan.”

    200,000 innocent clerical errors???? They’d better be hiring some more qualified workers. Like some who can read.

    I don’t think this is over at all. And if it is, it won’t be after the election. If Obama wins Ohio, it will be tainted throughout history. Than Obama and Bush can have something really big in common.

  • 200,000 clerical errors seems a bit high. However, in 2004 Republicans prevented more than 350,000 voters in Ohio from casting their ballots. So lets not get too hysterical.

    Florida 2000 Babs, that’s the most tainted election result ever.

  • STOP THE IGNORANCE

    IF YOU ARE OF A PRAING FAITH THEN PLEASE DO SO FOR PBAMA AND VOTERS IN GENERAL. THINGS ARE GETTING OUT OF CONTROL. RACIST THREATS HAVE BECOME MORE PREVELANT AND MORE DANGEROUS . REGARDLESS OF WHO YOU ARE VOTING FOR THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE.

  • Bill Hedges

    Babs- Rush has said after minumal investigation it appears ACORN member was head of group concerning the Suprem court case He said much has to be investigated to make any judgement. Story to continue it appears. Since the last debate, Gallup polls are getting closer. Looks like McCain did good job in debate.

  • Ahhhh a Rush Limbaugh talking point….LMAO you don’t disappoint Bill 😉

  • I agree with Babs– 200,000 or about 30% is too high an amount for clerical error. My guess is ineptitude over fraud (or a bigger percentage of the former over the latter), but as of now everything is speculation.

  • Bill Hedges

    Nzpudding– I have been trying real hard not to respond to you, but you like to push my buttons…Give me the list of approved paper and tv news media. I will contact nate and ask that he only allow them to be talked about on this site. Obviously your news medias are superior.Maybe all will be required to be Democrats as well. And maybe Nate will give you autority to edit all comments. You need to be writing articles as well. Of course you are joking and I am thin skinned.

  • Bruce

    Babs,

    Does this sound like my true story @ all with Mac Stipanovich we talked about a while ago? SCARY STUFF!

    Please God, don’t let the republican war machine Divide this country any more. We can’t take a Country wide Florida 2000 recount! Think the Economy Tanked recently? Let that kind of Indecision hit the markets and see what happens then. Thank god we have state supreme courts that are sniffing the Facts out and Obama Saw it coming and already had teams on the ground in all states ready to fight it.

    Let’s just hope for the sake of us as ONE Nation and ONE People we can come together after this election to fix the serious wounds our country is facing with out hard feelings. We as a people deserve it.

    Bruce Stipanovich

  • My news media Bill is SkyTV, BBC, CNN and Fox, of all of them I watch Fox the most, equal to all the other combined on average, but switch off when Sean Hannity starts spouting his utter repetitive gibberish. A lot of people knock Bill O’Reilly but I kinda like him.

  • Bill Hedges

    Nate–Please read Nzpuddlng last two comments on this tread. read my comment in-between. Conservative Gal maybe you can point it out to Nate.

  • WTF?

    I get asked about my news media’s, I give an answer that would probably surprise a lot of people and Bill goes all nutty.

  • Bill Hedges

    All should read Nzpudding and mine comments. Starting with Nzpudding Oct. 18 112 am to his Oct. 19 620 pm. It will show the twisting of comments to fit his needs and disregard of the truth. Sadly it is common practice for him. He seems to enjoy makeing fun of others.

  • Bill you’re not making any sense. You made a post about news media and I gave a list of the ones I watch, what’s the harm in it?

    I’m sure Nate and CG are pissing themselves with laughter at this one.

  • Bill Hedges

    nzpudding– didn’t you kind of leave a few important things out ?

  • Bill Hedges

    I wouldn’t cite Rush Limbaugh with that much authority. Nz is probably laughing just as much as I did when i first saw your post. If you hear Rush cite something unless he has posted the evidence on his website which is from other independent sources i wouldn’t use him to back up my theories. I’ve noticed other people posting things on here which i KNOW they could only get from only listening to extreme right wing radio in conjunction with Sean Hannity.

    I suggest doing a search on what ever rush is talking about and provide those legit articles as your sources. If you do a search and all you get is hits from his site LOL!! I would just take it with a grain of salt.

  • Bill Hedges

    Dreadsen- I do not insult anyone’s elses belief or sources. I rarey laugh at others.Or say I am right a you’re full of BS. I do not like having it done to me. Rush you may hate with a passion and not respect. So what. There are sources you may like I hate. Nzudding ignored real reason behind his pushing my buttons. He twisted it into somethinh else. I do not admire people like him. Maybe you do. Only you know for sure.

  • Bill Hedges

    Dreadsen-Did you read my comment that including Ruch name. I call that commenr really mlld. Stating only a posibility. No know fact. Yet, it draws the cuteness of pudding. He knows exactly what he is to me, so he pushes my bottons. Obvious he was right that Naate and Consevation Gal are pissing in their pants laughing at me. You surely are to. I should expect that, I am a funny guy. I can not take his remarks and twist them into funny phases. Like he did to the mentally disablied man story. Go read it, it not his best, maybe you will enjoy. I didn’t, but what the HELL. People like me on disability don’t laugh when reading that kind of stuff…One last funny thing in Mental handicap thread. JD apolized for making a remark. Then said he did not see Nate’s comment about that. Like that is necessary. A simple sorry with no condition didnt happen. Then he wanted to say he was losing his job. He deserved more pitty than the hanidy capped guy. Yes, you are right, I deserve what you, Mzpudding, cOonservative Gal, and Nate are telling me.I am on the wrong wave link. Without condition, I am wrong. I plan on never mentioning Rush again.

  • Bill Hedges

    Dreadsen– I just saw somebody else mention words from Rush. Go get him

  • Bill Hedges

    Dreadsen I SAID THIS EARLiER Babs- Rush has said after minumal investigation it appears ACORN member was head of group concerning the Suprem court case He said much has to be investigated to make any judgement Your response to it– `Bill Hedges…

    I wouldn’t cite Rush Limbaugh with that much authority. Nz is probably laughing just as much as I did when i first saw your post
    Tell me Dreadsen. Your respone to my statement looks rediculus side by side. I would do the same with Nzpudding, but I made my point. I am laughing triple times harder than you did

  • Bill Hedges

    Dreadsen Let’s clear the air I SAID THIS EARLiER Babs- Rush has said after minumal investigation it appears ACORN member was head of group concerning the Suprem court case He said much has to be investigated to make any judgement Your response to it– `Bill Hedges…

    I wouldn’t cite Rush Limbaugh with that much authority. Nz is probably laughing just as much as I did when i first saw your post
    Tell me Dreadsen. Your respone to my statement looks rediculus side by side. I would do the same with Nzpudding, but I made my point. I am laughing triple times harder than you did