Report: Obama website altering ties to ACORN

The Cleveland Leader, which is an online part of the Plain Dealer newspaper, has been following the changes which have occurred during the past week at Sen. Barack Obama’s “Fight the Smears” website. The report contains screen captures and archived pages showing that the Obama campaign seems to be distancing itself from ACORN.

Report from the Cleveland Leader:

On Thursday we revealed the connection between Barack Obama and Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN), and uncovered a 2004 article that discussed his involvement with the organization which had recently been removed from the web. Today, the language on Obama’s fightthesmears.com website has been altered in order to make it look like he has been telling the truth about his ACORN associations all along.

Fortunately, we and many others online know how to do a screen capture and how to use a little something called Google Cache.

As of yesterday, Fightthesmears.com stated:

Fact: Barack was never an ACORN trainer and never worked for ACORN in any other capacity.

Sometime on Friday, the website was altered, and the text was changed to state:

Fact: ACORN never hired Obama as a trainer, organizer, or any type of employee.

The original statement implied that he had no working connection with ACORN, whereas the new statement now insists that he has never been employed or hired by ACORN.

FightTheSmears.com as it was on October 9, 2008 (click to enlarge):

FightTheSmears.com as it shows in Google’s cache, last updated Oct. 6, 2008 (click to enlarge):

FightTheSmears.com as it now shows, effective Oct. 10, 2008 (click to enlarge):

The New York Times had also revealed that Obama has in fact worked with ACORN in the past, despite what his “Fight the Smears” website says:

Lewis Goldberg, a spokesman for Acorn, said Mr. Obama conducted two leadership training sessions of roughly an hour each for Acorn’s Chicago affiliate over a three-year period in the late 1990s. He was not paid for that work, Mr. Goldberg said.

Another report on the website changes from ABC News which emphasizes that ACORN never “hired” Obama, he worked in a volunteer position:

As reports pile up of voter registration fraud connected to ACORN — the Association of Community Organizers for Reform Now, a group that advocates for low-income voters – the campaign of Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., has sought to downplay his past ties with the group.

But in their efforts to do, Obama campaign officials found themselves forced last week to correct an erroneous assertion made on the campaign’s “Fight the Smears” webpage that “Barack was never an ACORN trainer and never worked for ACORN in any other capacity.”

That wasn’t true.

In fact, ACORN spokesman Lewis Goldberg told the New York Times that Obama conducted two unpaid leadership training sessions for ACORN’s Chicago affiliate in the late 1990s.

The “Fight the Smears” website now asserts, “Fact: ACORN never hired Obama as a trainer, organizer, or any type of employee.”

Key word: hired.

Goldberg told the Times that Obama’s work for ACORN was unpaid.

Moreover, Obama also represented ACORN and other groups in the mid 1990s as an attorney suing the state of Illinois to uphold the federal Motor Voter law. The governor and other officials of the State of Illinois were refusing to comply with the law on the ground that it was unconstitutional.

There is so much misinformation out about this that’s difficult to decipher it all. The only thing certain is that Sen. Obama’s “Fight the Smears” website has changed the language surrounding Obama’s involvement with ACORN.

You tell me, does this matter?

More on this story as it develops, if it does..

  • Coleman

    The report on Obama website altering ties to ACORN shows how he conducts his entire campaign for the Whitehouse. I am always like the democratic views of the economy, but Obama ties to multiple radical associations make me think twice. He has not been truthful with the American people. For me, a character of the candidate does matter in this election. If you are not truthful, you are not fit to lead.

    I am leaning toward McCain than ever. His economy outlook is not clear, but I trust his candid and services of this great nation more than Obama’s bleak (un-truthful) service records!

  • Babs

    Oh yes, this matters a lot. $830,000 to a group you know works to manipulate elections matters a lot. Knowing that Obama trained in that group matters a lot. Knowing that ACORN endorsed Obama for President matters a lot. The lies matter a lot. How many votes do you think $830,000 can buy on the streets? Apparently about 1.3 million, according to ACORN.

    The real Barack Obama is being exposed, but is anybody paying attention? Apparently not.

  • Odonata28

    “Obama conducted two leadership training sessions of roughly an hour each for Acorn’s Chicago affiliate over a three-year period in the late 1990s. He was not paid for that work, Mr. Goldberg said.”

    So, I once did 3 unpaid safety trainings for a major company in one state. Now if there was found to be fraud somewhere within that company would I be liable? Even if I donated money to them because I thought they were doing good work? I have seen no evidence that Obama knew or supported any of the allegations currently on ACORN. Find that and THEN tell me he lied and I would believe it. This is all circumstantial.

    Attorneys are hired to do a job. Many of them represent clients they don’t agree with, but they do it because it’s their job. I don’t see an argument here.

    Babs – McCain was a keynote speaker at an OCA (Oregon Citizens Alliance) meeting in 1993. Here is the article about it. And I know it’s a biased article, but it does make a good point. Actually 2. How McCain knowingly took part in an organization that openly discriminates and has no problem with “domestic terroism”.

    http://www.blueoregon.com/2008/04/when-will-john.html

  • Odonata28 ouch!

    Good point.

    I’ve donated tons of money to the Catholic Church and have spoke at one. I guess i’m tied into child molestation too.

    Let me also point out that the Republicans have had tons of links to Voter Fraud for a long time. Do a search and you’ll find an enormous amount of info.
    Start investigating that stuff and everyone on both sides will get depressed quickly.

    There are theories out there to why Acorn is being singled out.

  • nyth

    Such as the Republican ties to Diebold, who makes the error-prone, easy-to-hack election machines that are used in so many areas, you mean?

    Interesting how, in some swing states the last election (such as New Mexico), where the state was decided by ~500ish votes, there are now reports that 60k or so votes were “lost” due to the voting machine malfunctioning.

    [\tinfoil hat]

  • Mike A

    This is absolute nonsense. Stop grasping at straws. The reason conservatives are crying unfair is because it’s not working, not because no one is watching. “Who is the real Obama?”, “why isn’t anyone asking him about so-and-so”, “why was he consorting and palling around with and being mentored by Wright, Ayers, Acorn, etc.” All flimsy to the point of non-issues, and his attackers should realize this or else Mccain will lose the election. Which he will anyway. The truth is that Obama’s associations with these figures have been thoroughly explored numerous times over the past 7 months. And the conclusion in the media and the public is clear: nothing strong enough to indict Obama on anything other than having known someone. But conservatives are frustrated because it hasn’t worked, not because it has been left out. Let me put it another way: if there was some wrong-doing on Obama’s part in any of this, why hasn’t someone found it yet? DO you not think some conservative-supported investigative report could have found something tangible by now to use? Wouldn’t that have been a top priority for a news story if it had any relevance? Guilt by association is all the right seems to have remaining in these final weeks and it’s just sad. Mccain has not stepped up with specifics on any issues that will improve our lives as Americans.

    You need to be careful with these guilt by association attacks. We are associated with something or someone, all the time. If an old acquaintance of mine went on a killing rampage tomorrow, would I be guilty of anything? No. I’d be shocked and angry and puzzled, but not guilty. Nor should that stop me from being considered for a position I was applying for.

    A couple more things. Fair is fair. Mccain and Palin have a long list of dubious connections, some of which ARE actually relevant to their judgment. Mccain has tons of right-wing extremist friends who can be quoted and cited as having used God in the name of right-wing propganda and even a call to violence at times. Mccain has publically appeared with, shook hands with, hugged, and embraced endorsements from them all in the last year! And while a few received reprimands from the campaign, they continue to paint the airwaves and fill the minds of their congregations with lies and hate. Obama, in turn, has also reprimanded, renounced, and condemned wrong-doing by those who would support him. For some reason, this isn’t enough to conservatives. Let’s not forget the Keating 5. And will someone spewing bile for Obama’s link to Ayers please examine the other people on that board and who was at the top? A bipartisan mix of politicians, educators, businessmen, with structural ties to Reagan. (By the way, Reagan was a Republican president in the…80s. It’s 2008 people)

    Palin’s list of shady characters continues to grow and derail the campaign. Why should I mention them here, and continue to distract the electorate? The simple fact is Palin is under investigation for abusing her office and has been for awhile, and the conclusion is simple: Mccain’s judgment when picking her was his first presidential decision and it was woefully flawed. There’s also her witch-hunting pastor, who publicly prayed for her political ascension. And there’s more.

    If you look closely at the revision in the website, it actually does the opposite of distancing Obama from Acorn. It clarifies the nature of the involvement while conceding that he did in fact hold a brief, unpaid organizing position with them for a couple training sessions. I’ll be honest when I say that this is bad news but not for Obama. It’s bad news for voters on both sides. The are stories coming out about republican-sponsored voter supression. It’s sad something shady is going on out there, and it should be exposed and justice should be doled out to those responsible. But there are hundreds of grass-roots orgs campaigning for both tickets right now and none of them should be linked to Mccain or Obama directly, other than their one true campaign. Final point: Mccain was the headline speaker at an ACORN-sponsored rally in in 2006.

  • EricF

    coverupthelies.com has been exposed. next up mr.obama. lol you guys want to elect the most dirty politician in US history. too funny.

  • The “most dirty politician in US history” what a completely retarded statement. I guess it was to be expected.

  • Mike A

    EricF:

    If you think Obama is the dirtiest politician in US history, please provide the proof. If you are someone who truly believes this, then you must elaborate on your views.

    I ask you to elaborate. Hope you get this.

  • EricF

    yeah nz your right that is over the top. Bush was pretty bad in his own right but so was Bill.

  • Dale

    It’s always always a bit rough blaming somebody for what somebody else did.

    BUT

    I once went to Normanby, so did a certain unnamed african American who may or may not be running for president of my local church. He went to Chicago 2 years ago and met and man who was Vientnam veteran there who HAD HEARD OF WILLIAM AYERS! Now that man had a friend who also knew of Barack Obama and saw him with Ayers drinking martinis while they spoke about deceiving the proletariat which may or may not be the title of a certain somebody’s new book. Now that book which has yet to be released details the Vietnam veteran’s war records and finds that as a Navy captain he once went on shore leave with John Kerry, who as we all know lied about his war record and didn’t deserve his war medal which should have been given to George Bush who would have shown up for the war had he not had… whatever he had.

    At this point I would like to apologise for my part in George Bush’s presidency and say that given the chance I would not have sat there and read that book while people were dying at the WTC.

    I would however have cut my own tax rate and started a war based on lies and maybe a few other things (Sue me, I’m not perfect, but at least I hate reading). GO PALIN!

  • Babs

    Odanata and Dreadsen, Obama didn’t “donate” to ACORN, he paid them for their servies for a program HE titled “Get Out the Vote”, perhaps wrongly. “Buy out the Vote” would have been more apt.

  • Joshua

    These petty inaccuracies put forth by the repubs as they scramble to find something to smear on Obama is telling.

    Clearly Obama’s opposition is getting desperate–and that’s good news for everyone else.

  • EricF, I don’t know if you’ve seen ‘Hillary: The Movie’ but yeah, the Clintons aren’t exactly clean and makes an assumption about Obama laughable.

  • David

    Where in did people get the idea that politicians can be completely honest?!? Honest politicians are the ones that always lose! Why? because the American people made it that way. If you don’t tell Americans exactly what they wanna hear then they don’t vote for you! If any presidential candidate came out and said “Hey I’m going to have to raise your taxes to make up for the deficit” He/she wouldn’t get a single vote! Voters did this to themselves!!!

  • If there’s no dirt on a politician then the other side will make some up and use guilt by association. It’s a no-win all round.

  • Dale

    I once posted comments on the same site as a woman that said Obama looked like a monkey (Conservative Girl), several people who called him a terrorist and a traitor and even more surprisingly, a bunch of people who actually thing Sarah Palin won the VP debate.

    Shocking I know, the things I endorse.

  • Babs

    Well, for anyone who still doesn’t believe voter fraud happens, read this from my local television station. It aired last night. I have to wonder how many times this has happened, and where. To take advantage of a special needs member of the community is worse than illegal, and I intend to stay with this story until someone answers for what they’ve done.

    http://www.walb.com/Global/story.asp?S=9177991&nav=menu37_5_2_1

  • Dale

    Oh my god, Obama doing more voter fraud! I’m not surprised, he’s such a liar