Focus shifts to St. Louis and the Palin/Biden debate

With the current economic bailout legislation being debated in Washington, focus is shifting to Washington University in St. Louis, MO for another debate happening on Thursday night at 9pm eastern. Gov. Sarah Palin and Sen. Joe Biden will take the stage in the one and only vice presidential debate.

More information available here.

Note: The Vice Presidential debate will begin at 9PM ET / 6PM PT and will be broadcast on every major network and every cable news channel. Online feeds will be available at or

Video from the Associated Press of final debate preparations being made:

Report on the debate from Yahoo News:

NEW YORK – For an audition to be second fiddle, Thursday’s debate between often ill-informed newcomer Sarah Palin and often gaffe-prone veteran Joe Biden offers unusually large pitfalls — and promise.

For once, the whole world may be watching. Already, 3,100 media credentials have been issued, the most the Commission on Presidential Debates ever needed in seven vice presidential debates it’s hosted.

The attention is driven by the public’s fascination with Palin, the first-term Alaska governor that Republican presidential candidate John McCain plucked from relative political obscurity to be his running mate.

Initially, Palin was praised as a superb political communicator for the delivery of her acceptance speech at the Republican National Convention four weeks ago. She energized the party’s conservative base, which had reservations about McCain, and quickly showed she could outdraw McCain on the stump — a likely factor in their decision to appear together more often than running mates usually do.

But a series of shaky Palin television interviews have left even some conservatives questioning whether she is ready to be vice president. She couldn’t describe the Bush doctrine in foreign affairs, seemed to have little grasp of the proposed financial industry bailout and even appeared to endorse Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama’s position on chasing al-Qaida terrorists in Pakistan.

Palin’s performance against Biden, the Delaware Democrat with 35 years in the Senate, could restore her initial luster or seriously weaken the GOP ticket.

Last week’s Obama-McCain debate appeared to give the Illinois Democrat a small boost in the polls but produced no knock-out blows. So the vice-presidential debate at Washington University in St. Louis could be a pivotal moment in a race already filled with surprising twists.

Palin herself outlined the contest in an interview broadcast Tuesday night on the “CBS Evening News.”

“He’s got a tremendous amount of experience and, you know, I’m the new energy, the new face, the new ideas and he’s got the experience based on many many years in the Senate and voters are gonna have a choice there of what it is that they want in these next four years,” Palin said.

More on this story later today with some debate previews and such.. stay tuned.


A look at the debating styles of Palin and Biden from MSNBC:

Should be a decent rumble on Thursday.. can’t wait.

  • JD

    I hope all of America and the world are watching this debate!

    We will be talking about it for years to come.

    ** I hope she gets called out on stuff like the following

    “The authority to launch and respond to a Russian incursion lies with the Alaska NORAD Region commander” – Air Force Lt. Gen. Dana Atkins, he said. Not with the Alaskan Gov.

    Palin said last week that her foreign policy experience includes facing the Russians.

    “It’s very important when you consider even national security issues with Russia, as Putin rears his head and comes into the airspace of the United States of America – where do they go? It’s Alaska,” Palin told CBS’ Katie Couric.”

  • JD

    “Mississippi governor, McCain friend, and former RNC chairman Haley Barbour talks down the Alaska Governor’s foreign policy.

    Haley Barbour – “Obviously in a McCain administration she will not have much of a role in foreign policy…””

    I would have to agree but what does that tell you if the president dies? Their own party knows she has no experience.

  • Stalin


    You should change your handle to “I’m so in the tank for Obama/Biden it’s difficult for me to form rational thoughts”

    OK, maybe that’s a little long….I mean come on dude. I know I’m voting for McCain, but I will admit when I’m wrong or my candidate is wrong. Can you say one thing about McCain/Palin/Republican/Conservatives? Come on, it will make you feel good! If not, can you say one bad thing about Obama? This is your challenge, should you choose to accept.

  • JD


    To be honest… I was not so much anti-McCain until he picked Palin. Then I became Die Hard Obama. Not that I wasn’t going to vote for him to begin with.

    Still, I am just reporting the news as I am updated with it and if it apply’s to the thread. I am sure you can do the same and, in fact, you do. almost always Anti-Obama.

    I am asuming you meant to ask me to say one thing “nice” about Republicans?

    Challenge accepted…

    Here it is. Palin is HOT!!! Naw, I like that McCain is enviornmentally friendly or more so than any current or recent Republicans. He admits that global warming is not helped with our polution.

    However, this is not the hightest voting point that I will be deciding on to see who gets my ballot.

    Now something bad about Obama…

    I think he has alot of policies to attempt to get off the ground. I think he has commited to too many of them, all though they are good ideas.

  • Jim819

    If it ever becomes necessary, Palin will simply name a VP who has foreign policy experience just like BO did! She`ll also have the military advisors and Generals on the ground who she`ll listen to. She`s also a fast-learner, tough as nails, and is every bit the fighter and non-quitter Hillary Clinton is. Biden may be one of the 1st to find this out the hard way!

    She`s also never called Iran a tiny country which poses little threat to the US like Obama did, only to correct himself within 24 hrs. after his campain pointed out his major blunder due to inexperience! Palin also never IGNORANTLY said that she`d meet with irrational, terrorist leaders, etc., WITHOUT PRECONDITIONS, and Palin also never suggested a solution for the Russia-Georgia crisis which can simply be VETOED by the Russians!!

    Yet, BO was never hammered for making such Ignorant statements, etc., by the MSM! But you can bet that they`d have been all over Palin had she made such bonehead statements!

  • U.S.A.


    I’m sure you don’t want to hear from me but I will step up as well. After I do and JD has. IT’S YOUR TURN!

    Obama is pro choice. I don’t agree. I think McCain is right here. McCain has tons of foreign policy time in over Obama so at the table I think he would hold his own better than Obama although I think Obama would do fine anyway.

    Truth is that if you have any good to say about Palin in a VP role then you are either biased or you have recently had a slip and fall. Sorry, maybe she is pretty but if you can not see what you are getting with her then you deserve what she would give you.

    Now, lets hear somthing not so good about Palin, pick any subject because she is stupid about everyone. Oh and don’t forget to admit Obama has good points.

  • Mybe Palin will get asked about her latest statement she made while talking to some talk radio host yesterday:

    “Air that has too much coal in it, corn syrup next, then a terrorist attack. But that is not in any way to diminish the fact that a terrorist attack is real, but hundreds of thousands of people die and their lives are shortened because of coal plants, coal-fired plants, and because of corn syrup.”

    Hundreds of thousands of people die from corn syrup, can you comprehend the ignorance in that?

    Oh wait, it was the tremendously experienced Senator Joe Biden from Delaware who made that statement:

    Can you imagine if Palin had made that statement? The press would be on a field day for a month about how moronic it is.

    Perhaps Biden will be questioned about any of the following:

    – Biden wanting to send Iran $200 million with no strings attached as a response to 9/11 (link)

    – Biden’s continued opposition to the surge and closed-mindedness in not admitting it has succeeded.

    – Biden’s NO vote on the bill to designate Iran’s Revolutionary Guard as a terrorist organization even though they’re killing Americans (link)

    – Biden’s lies about being shot at in Iraq and the media covering for him while they skewered Hillary Clinton about her claim of being shot at in Bosnia (link)

    – Biden’s astronomical amount of gaffes, misstatements, racist remarks, attacks against his own candidate, and dead wrong positions over the years, and past few weeks.

    The media can ignore it, but thank God YouTube never forgets. Things can’t just be swept under the rug and erased anymore thanks to the internet.

    This list is off the top of my head in the past few minutes. Given another 10 minutes, it would be double or triple the size just examining his years of “experience” on issues.

    If Sarah Palin said half the things Biden has said or voted half the ways Biden has voted, she would have been impeached as the Governor of Alaska and run out of town being chased by townsfolk with pitchforks and torches.

    So please, before you get all excited over the thought of Palin being questioned on anything, you might be more worried about what Biden could be questioned on. Lucky for him the media has given him a pass.

    What good is Biden’s vast wealth of experience if he’s constantly wrong? If you pick an “experienced” candidate, at least pick one who is right at least half the time on the major issues and isn’t sticking his foot in his mouth every 5 minutes.

  • U.S.A.

    Conservative Gal

    What are you trying to do, prove who is the bigger idiot between Biden and you? You got him beat no doubt. He said an attack could be real but the others are happening every day. Man you are so wild about attacking Biden and Obama that you just get stupid.

  • Come on this is already boring!

  • CM

    Conservative Gal,
    You are using a tactic of distortion here that seems to be a classic of the Republican Machine. Watching the clip of Biden you included clarifies the statement (which you do not properly cite, by the way, excerpting a huge portion of it without ellipses to indicate such, and misquoting parts of what you did include). It’s not moronic to rank the choices that are given, which, if one watches the clip, is exactly what Biden did — coal pollution in the air, high fructose corn syrup and a terrorist attack were the options given by the interviewer. In point of fact, they ARE all real threats to people’s health/life/longevity. There’s been so much coverage in the last few years about the serious health-related consequences of the mass consumption of highly processed foods containing high fructose corn syrup that the claim that Biden is moronic seems to highlight a fundamental ignorance or an incredible state of denial on your part. A quick google search on high fructose corn syrup and health will garner such extensive and well documented reading that a person could occupy days with educating him or herself on the conditions affected by it.

    Certainly Biden has a history of gaffes. But he also has a history of well-spoken stands and highly educated positions. By contrast, Palin seems to have neither, just a good cheerleading speech to warm up crowds for McCain. I have yet to hear her say anything of substance or original. That’s horrifying.

    And what you point to as “dead wrong positions” is really a matter of interpretation. I’m not really sure what I think about the surge, but I can tell you this: to claim that it was a clear and decisive success — that’s just plain old politics. Did it help? probably. Is that all McCain’s doing? doubtful. Is Biden too resistant to acknowledging it’s value? seems to be. If the surge did help, is that all there was to the present quieting of sectarian violence in Iraq? probably not. And it is this that Biden is suggesting (in that clip) one must consider, whatever one thinks of the surge. So your link is again a dubious attempt to smear Biden’s intelligence, when instead what it reflects is a man who has, frankly, thought about these issues and has an answer — whether we agree with it or not. Show me a link to a coherent answer from Sarah Palin to a domestic or foreign policy question in an interview with the press. I wouldn’t probably agree with it, but at least I can recognize when it’s a considered opinion. You disagree or misunderstand Biden and call him a moron. That’s very partisan.

  • As an impartial observer here, I wanted to add this story to the mix which I found but had not posted on. It’s chock full of the Associated Press examining Biden’s issues.

    Fact check: Biden spins a helicopter tale

    WASHINGTON – When Joe Biden tells voters he understands the threat posed by Afghan extremists, he dramatically illustrates one reason why: His helicopter was “forced down” on “the superhighway of terror.” Actually, snow, not the enemy, persuaded the helicopter pilot to land and wait out a storm.

    The Democratic vice presidential candidate has repeatedly left that part out, in an episode that Republicans hope will become an echo of Hillary Rodham Clinton’s errant tale during the primaries of landing in Bosnia under sniper fire.

    Biden has made a number of questionable statements recently that, viewed in isolation, might not amount to much. But this is a man whose first presidential campaign collapsed 20 years ago after he told a story about coal miners in his family that he lifted without credit from a British politician.

    In a recent speech in Virginia coal country, Biden seemed to embellish his background once again. He declared, “I am a hard coal miner,” which he’s not and never has been. His spokesman, David Wade, said Biden was joking.

    And looking back on his 1972 Senate campaign, he told Pennsylvania delegates at the Democratic convention that people from his hometown of Scranton, Pa., piled in up to 10 buses and drove to Wilmington, Del., to show him support. “Literally,” he said, “there were hundreds of thousands of people.”


    In a Baltimore speech last week, Biden said: “If you want to know where al-Qaida lives, you want to know where (Osama) bin Laden is, come back to Afghanistan with me. Come back to the area where my helicopter was forced down with a three-star general and three senators at 10,500 feet in the middle of those mountains. I can tell you where they are.”

    Two days later, in Cincinnati, he said al-Qaida has re-established a safe haven and it’s not in Baghdad. “It’s in the mountains between Afghanistan and Pakistan,” he said, “where my helicopter was recently forced down.”

    At a Sept. 9, fundraiser, Biden addressed his national security credentials by talking about “the superhighway of terror between Pakistan and Afghanistan where my helicopter was forced down. John McCain wants to know where bin Ladin and the gates of Hell are? I can tell him where. That’s where al-Qaida is. That’s where bin Ladin is.”

    THE FACTS: In February, Biden and fellow senators John Kerry and Chuck Hagel were flying in a helicopter over Afghanistan in a fact-finding trip when a snowstorm closed in.

    “It went pretty blind, pretty fast and we were around some pretty dangerous ridges,” Kerry told The Associated Press afterward. “So the pilot exercised his judgment that we were better off putting down there, and we all agreed.”

    He said the group waited for about three hours until a convoy with U.S. troops took them to Bagram Air Base.

    “We sat up there and traded stories,” Kerry joked. “We were going to send Biden out to fight the Taliban with snowballs, but we didn’t have to do it.”

    He added: “Other than getting a little cold, it was fine.”

    The area was reported as not being under Taliban control. But Wade noted “it’s the wild west out there” and the senators were transported under guard and with air cover from an F-16.

    Though Biden never said his helicopter was shot at in Afghanistan, last year he asserted that he was “shot at” in Iraq. He amended that later, saying the quarters he was staying in while visiting Baghdad’s protected Green Zone shook from a nearby blast, and “I was near where a shot landed.”

    The McCain campaign jumped on the Biden stories Wednesday, putting out a statement from a retired Black Hawk pilot saying there is no mistaking being shot at or forced down by the enemy.

    But if Biden was not literally in the sights of the enemy in Iraq, he unquestionably went through several dicey situations verified by other lawmakers there, including the explosion of a mortar near the compound and his plane’s evasive maneuvers while taking off, in response to a possible missile attack.

    THE COAL SPIN: In a speech at a United Mine Workers fish fry in Castlewood, Va., on Sept. 21, Biden told the miners he is one of them. “Hope you won’t hold it against me, but I am a hard coal miner — anthracite coal, Scranton, Pennsylvania, that’s where I was born and raised,” he said.

    Biden mentioned his great-grandfather, a mining engineer who became a state senator in the early 1900s.

    THE FACTS: Biden was born in Scranton, moved to Delaware at age 10 and has never had experience in the mines. His father worked in the oil business and ran a Delaware car dealership.

    Biden’s comment was reported at face value in press accounts from the event. Wade said it wasn’t meant to be taken literally.

    “Judging by the laughter and applause, I think it was clear to everyone under the sun that they got the joke from this son of Scranton’s coal country,” Wade said. An AP reporter who covered the speech said Biden’s claim came across as a genial if awkwardly self-deprecating effort to establish a bond with the miners — not a joke.

    In his 2007 memoirs, Biden put his roots in a more modest context: “I had ancestors from the coal mining town of Scranton.”

    In 1987 at the Iowa State Fair, Biden both borrowed and slightly adapted lines from Neil Kinnock, then British Labor Party leader, in portraying himself as the descendant of coal miners. In one of the lifted lines, Biden talked about: “My ancestors, who worked in the coal mines of Northeast Pennsylvania and would come up after 12 hours and play football for four hours.”

    (Kinnock had talked about Welsh ancestors “who could work eight hours underground and then come up and play football.”)

    Biden also was found to have exaggerated his academic record during that campaign and a plagiarism episode from his school days emerged. The revelations crippled his Democratic primary campaign and he pulled out of the presidential race.

    So regardless of where you stand on the campaign, Biden certainly does have some notable baggage to account for, as does Palin.

  • Quoting U.S.A. laughably: “What are you trying to do, prove who is the bigger idiot between Biden and you? You got him beat no doubt. He said an attack could be real but the others are happening every day. Man you are so wild about attacking Biden and Obama that you just get stupid.”

    I would like to rest my case as U.S.A. did not meaningfully or convincingly rebut a single point made in my comment above about Joe Biden’s incompetence. Rather U.S.A. resorted to calling me names but at least he openly admitted that Joe Biden is, indeed, an idiot.

    U.S.A., when you want to actually rebut what I said instead of resorting to schoolyard name calling, let me know and I’ll let you back into the adult room since I think I hear your Mom calling for dinner.

  • U.S.A.


    You are funny. Your post did not require any real argument because it so crazy. Your post are always wild and I just can not understand what makes a person act like you. Simple identification does not mean I am name calling. Oh yea, mom is a damn good cook, Thanks mom!

  • DumbonWar

    It amazes me how absolutely ignorant some of you are. Andrew Sullivan is a well known, very intelligent political analyst. He is an economic conservative and a social liberal. (As I’ve mentioned before to much criticism, if you aren’t a social liberal than you are inherently stupid). Mr Sullivan was an avid Mccain supporter from the past to the present until the choice of Sarah Palin. This proved that John Mccain really only cares about winning this election and nothing more. To put someone as dumb as that woman in this position is irresponsible. How can a man love his country and then put this woman in line to be the next president. Now I personally think anyone who believes that the story of Noah’s Ark is true is absolutely insane so Sarah Palin isn’t even worth my breath but even republicans (intelligent ones) are aware at how humiliating this is and could be for our country.

  • Stalin, there’s so many in the tank for McCain & Palin that their rational thoughts got derailed along with the Straigt-talk Express.

    I like McCain, still do, but he’s wrong for America and the world right now. He had his chance 8 years ago and I don’t think there’s anyone in America or the world who wished he’d beaten Bush to a bloody pulp in the Primaries back then. But he didn’t sadly and his time has come and gone.

    Maybe there’s a way for Nate to add which side people are going for next to their name. I’d gladly have an ass next to my name even though I’m not American or able to vote 🙂

  • JD



    “With only one day before the vice presidential debate, Republican vp candidate Sarah Palin is unable to name a single Supreme Court case she disagrees with besides Roe v. Wade in a stunning new interview with Katie Couric.

    Palin’s non-answer came in the same interview during which she gave a widely-panned answer on the economic bailout bill and had trouble describing running mate John McCain’s record on regulation of the financial industry. Below is an excerpt of Palin’s latest disastrous interview.”

    Link to video –

    Couric: What other Supreme Court decisions do you disagree with?

    Palin: Well, let’s see. There’s, of course in the great history of America there have been rulings, that’s never going to be absolute consensus by every American. And there are those issues, again, like Roe v. Wade, where I believe are best held on a state level and addressed there. So you know, going through the history of America, there would be others but …

    Couric: Can you think of any?

    Palin: Well, I could think of … any again, that could be best dealt with on a more local level. Maybe I would take issue with. But, you know, as mayor, and then as governor and even as a vice president, if I’m so privileged to serve, wouldn’t be in a position of changing those things but in supporting the law of the land as it reads today.


  • So if Palin is dumb, I guess that makes Biden [insert adjective below dumb].

    Biden’s gaffes and ignorance make Palin look like a Rhodes Scholar, which isn’t saying much for Biden. Conservative Gal has the best list I’ve seen above of Biden’s gaffes, I’m copying/pasting to forward to friends, thanks for the list.

    Since nobody askes Biden or Obama similar questions, we don’t know how badly they would sound trying to answer these media pop quizzes. Palin is dealing with the hand she’s dealt and Biden will make a complete buffoon of himself at the debate, as expected by everyone.

    McCain/Palin ’08!

  • JD

    RJM – “Since nobody askes Biden or Obama similar questions, we don’t know how badly they would sound trying to answer these media pop quizzes.”

    I am glad you say that RJM. Katie asked both Biden and Palin the same question on Roe V. Wade and if they know other supreme court cases they disagree with.

    I wouldn’t want to ruin it for you so here it is back to back. The same questions asked to both VP candidates. Biden first so you don’t have to wait long. You tell me which one sounds informed.

    I read the following and although I don’t agree with conspericies I think it will be interesting to notice.

    “It will be very interesting to see if Sarah Palin will be wearing her hair down covering her ears during the VP debate tomorrow night. If so, she should be checked for an earpiece and if she is being fed answers by someone. She always wears her her up and back, so it would be very suspicious if it”s worn down tomorrow night.

    Her recent interviews starkly illustrate her lack of knowledge and ability. It is scary to think that she could become the person who leads us into the future.”

  • Biden is good at repeating the same answer he’s given for 35 years as a senator, I’m shocked and appalled. *YAWN*

    JD, you said in another post about Gwen Ifill that “They need to bring some one else in. I don’t want people falling back on this and blame her for Palin’s horrible showing.”

    Now you sound like the one floating conspiracy theories to fall back on when Sarah Palin mops the floor with the unsuspecting Biden. Hold yourself to your own standards.

    McCain/Palin ’08

  • JD

    RJM – “Biden is good at repeating the same answer he’s given for 35 years”

    So let me understand you correctly. You got done saying that the media doesn’t ask Biden the same pop questions and so “we don’t know how badly they would sound trying to answer these media pop quizzes”

    Then I show you the video of the “exact” same questions being asked of him and you blow it off because he has had an answer for 35 years?

    Babs and other Republicans tout that Palin has more experience than Obama but she can’t name supreme court cases, site newspapers she reads, claims that here foreign experience is because she can see russia from Alaska even though NORAD is the one with the responsibility of protecting US airspace, has to get back to interviewers on the achievements of her running mate, and a partridge in a pear tree.

    To be honest, if she weren’t so stuck on herself she probably wouldn’t know how to spell her own name. She is “wired” differently and that is for sure.

    RJM – “Now you sound like the one floating conspiracy theories to fall back on when Sarah Palin mops the floor with the unsuspecting Biden.”

    You don’t really make sense but then again neither does Palin. The big deal it that Ifill could be “bias” against palin. How is it a conspiracy if Palin mops up the floor with Biden? How is it a conspiracy it Biden mops up the floor with Palin? Wouldn’t it just be called “BIAS”

    Conspiracy has to do with a secret or a cover up. Ifill is no secret.

    Are you trying to pull a PeeWee Herman….”I know you are but what am I?” kind of thing.

    I mean, I can get childish if you want but it would probably be better if we acted like adults.

    That said… Mine is bigger than yours.

  • Babs

    CG did present a good and accurate list, and Nate backed it up with facts as well. I think because Biden has been in office so long, that the press has decided not to vet him. But as the article posted by Nate reminds us, there was a reason that Biden has failed in every presidential campaign he’s entered. I believe that Sarah Palin has won every election she’s run for, with the exception of Lt. Governor. Of course, winning Governor, I believe, trumps that loss.

    To sit around mindlessly and call Palin dumb is asinine and immature. To discount her acheivements is likened to throwing Obama’s out the back door as well. The only argument liberals can make against Palin is her lack of experience in foreign policy. Obama also has a huge gap there compared to his opponant, John McCain. While McCain recounts decades of first person, hands on experience, Obama touts what he’s read or been told.

    A bad thing about Palin? She’s been very successful dealing with the economy of Alaska, but the federal economy is structured much different than her state. She has a lot of homework to do.

    A good thing about Biden? He’s very likable, and has been able to hang on to his senate seat for I believe 35 years now. He must have done something right, his contiuents keep sending him back.

    A good thing about Obama? He’s a very gifted orator, which made him an excellent community organizer, his first calling.

    A bad thing about McCain? He’s not showing his famous temper, and I want him to get as mad about the condition of my country as I am. I want him to bust into the White House like John Wayne, throw the fine china out onto the front lawn, and get serious about fixing my country.

  • JD

    Babs – “I believe that Sarah Palin has won every election she’s run for, with the exception of Lt. Governor. Of course, winning Governor, I believe, trumps that loss.”

    Talk about jinxing someone. Not to mention she has not run for any national office before. State and National government are two different animals. So are presidential vs. governor debates.

    Biden may gaffe but Palin just has no clue and the polls are starting to reflect this.

    Babs – “The only argument liberals can make against Palin is her lack of experience in foreign policy.”

    I call her out on her lack of understanding of foreign policy, the works of the supreme judiciary (supreme court),and the national economy.

    If I have to hear about her home state of Alaska again… I get it she is a proud Alaskan.

    I would like to ask this question.


  • Babs

    Who would vote for Biden for President? Nobody, that’s already been proven more than once. So what’s your point, JD?

  • JD

    So was that a yes or a no, babs?

  • CM, this is ridiculous, you’re going to say that high fructose corn syrup is more of a threat to Americans than a terrorist attack? Being a native New Yorker I lived through September 11th and when terrorists are crashing planes into buildings to kill American citizens, yes I DO find that to be the utmost threat America faces. Hello, there are crazies running around the country trying to get their hands on anything they can to kill us, but you’re worried about a sugary substance. Newsflash, you have the ability to “pass” on foods and drinks that contain it, but do you have a “pass” on a terrorist attack? You are are the only one who controls what goes into your body and your intake of sugar, so be responsible and limit or cut it out completely, I really don’t care, I’m not your keeper but I am the keeper of myself and someday my children. It’s all about moderation, SO this is a moot issue. Honestly I feel like I’m wasting my time with this.

    Babs good Burn!!!

  • “Hello there are crazies running around the country trying to get there hands on anything they can to kill us, but your worried about a sugary substance.”


  • JD

    Conservative Gal – “Honestly I feel like I’m wasting my time with this.”

    You are and now you have wasted my time too. Is there any way I can get some type of fiscal compensation for this?

    “its made from corn… It must be good for you!!!”

    “Transfat is made from plant oils… it must be good for you!”

    “Palin is from Alaska… She must be good for the United States!”

    Gotta love the logic.

    Indeed everything in moderation. Lets keep McCain and Palin in moderation. It would be too much if they were elected. The good news is we have the power to do this!

    Don’t consume too much McCain\Palin. Side effects are often loss of reason, irrational emotions, failed understanding of the world and diarrhea. Some cases of genital warts have been known.

    Vote Obama!

  • VJG

    Palin is pathetic, even I can pull the name of a newspaper out of thin air! Heck, say the funny papers….that’s probably all she reads.
    And I am offended at how she exploits her children! Particularly, the baby.
    Vote Obama! “A vote for Obama is a vote for change…not Bush for McSame.”
    Thank you.

  • JD


    Thanks for the vote VJG!

    But be careful not to stand too close. I have been known to attract the Republican’s flaming arrows and darts around here. Even God has his eyes on me.

    I wouldn’t want anyone else to get hit accidentally.

    If anyone else is voting Obama, lets hear it. It is too late in the game to be undecided.

  • VJG

    You know, when we were still in the primaries & rumor had it McCain was out of money & doing poorly,the other rep candidates started dropping out of the race.I would wonder why.Then it came to me the other candidates realized they could not win against Obama,as he became more & more popular.So they all got out & probably said,”Let the old man go down in defeat”. And as McCain became aware of the same he got himself a “sacrificial lamb”, Palin.She’ll be his excuse for losing.
    Thank you.

  • Of course you have to mask the main point of my comment which is that terrorism is a bigger threat to American society out of the three examples given by Bill Maher. I will remind you that the other two choices given Biden to choose from was polluted air from coal-fire plants and high-fructose corn syrup. You of course masked this with your liberal propaganda of downplaying terrorism and fabricating non-existent controversies surrounding natural sweeteners.

    Liberals get an “A” in focusing on the fluffy stuff because, like Obama, you’re just too scared to tackle the real issues. Well my dear, I hope the next time there’s a terrorist attack you’re not on one of those planes, in one of the subways, or in one of those buildings that are attacked. But hey, look to the positive, you cut out high-fructose corn syrup, al-Qaeda’s greatest threat.

  • Stan Labinksy

    Despite Joe Biden’s “experience,” he is still a rookie. At his best, he never had nor exhibited anything close to Sarah Palin’s honesty and integrity. He has shown us where he stands by his anti-Second Amendment position, evidenced by the bills he himself has introduced, and by the major contributors, at present, to the Obama/Biden campaign.

    Palin may not have the book memorized by years of rote in Congress like Biden, but she knows where to find the answers.

    It has been said that smart people surround themselves with smarter people. This is Sarah Palin.

    It is far better to have a less experienced vice president with Sarah Palin’s qualities than a less experienced president with Obama’ shortcomings.

    Palin is on the rise, and very capable. She has shown her stuff. Do not let the rhetoric of the liberal press cloud the issue that truly is in front of us: return honesty and integrity to government, where our representatives actually do act in the best interests of their constituents.

    McCain and Palin will make actual changes for the better.