Video: McCain outlines his hypothetical first term

McCain delivered what was touted as a groundbreaking speech today from Columbus, Ohio where he spoke as if reminiscing on his first term in office from the year 2013. McCain’s “crystal ball” speech is an attempt to drive home where he believes his policies would leave the country after his first term in the White House.

Here’s the full 27 minutes of his speech from MSNBC:

His biggest point being that he believes he will win the Iraq war with continuing the Bush administration’s policies.

Here’s a report on speech from Yahoo News:

COLUMBUS, Ohio – Republican presidential contender John McCain on Thursday listed a series of prospective first-term accomplishments, including winning the war in Iraq, although he said he was not backtracking on his criticism of Democrats for favoring immediate troop withdrawals.

In a mystical speech that also envisioned Osama bin Laden dead or captured and Americans with the choice of paying a simple flat tax or following their standard 1040 form, the Arizona senator for the first time set an outer limit for the war even if he hedged on a specific end date.

“By January 2013, America has welcomed home most of the servicemen and women who have sacrificed terribly so that America might be secure in her freedom. The Iraq War has been won,” he told an audience of several hundred here in the capital city of a general election battleground state.

Later, as he drove to the airport on his “Straight Talk Express” campaign bus, McCain was peppered by reporters with questions about the timetable. He and his aides insisted there was a difference between ending the war and bringing troops home and, as they criticize the Democrats, announcing a withdrawal upfront without regard for the military endgame.

“It’s not a timetable; it’s victory. It’s victory, which I have always predicted. I didn’t know when we were going to win World War II; I just knew we were going to win,” McCain said.

The Vietnam veteran added: “I know from experience, you set a day for surrender — which is basically what you do when you say you are withdrawing — and you will pay a much a heavier price later on.”

Pretty lofty goals but I guess that’s par for the course when it comes most politicians. Plus, he says Osama Bin Laden would be found and killed, another lofty goal since it’s been nearly 8 years and it hasn’t happened yet.

So what was everyone’s opinion?

  • OBAMA_SUCKS

    Amazing speech. First real great speech i have seen McCain give, and im just happy to see it. Great job John!

  • Babs

    Nate, if we don’t make our goals lofty, what’s the point in having them? We should aspire to unlofty goals? 😉

  • Robert

    Yes, that’s everything that needs to be done. Now, how the hell do you plan to do it?

  • Michel

    Babs, we don’t need our goals lofty…. we need ambicious goals, yes, but realistic plans to achieve them. I don’t distrust McCain’s interests about this country, what I distrust is his plans and policies to achieve them.

    I don’t have a problem with McCain’s speech. In fact, I think it’s quite inspirational. But I won’t like to see him after this calling Obama a truimphalist or naive at politics.

  • Michael

    On the Colbert Report, Arianna Huffington said the U.S War in Iraq was McCain’s viagra. This was a bit insulting, but metaphorically sound in the current political climate (one could say 9/11 worked the same way for Rudy Giuliani for a while).

    After pushing the conservative envelope with environmentalism, McCain draws public attention back to Iraq. Although he gives a timetable, he also promotes a victorious image, so it is a negotiated stance from the current Bush administration, which refuses to set a timetable.

    It was a very strong delivery and powerful speech. The motive for this, perhaps, is to calm his more right-wing supporters, whose feathers were recently ruffled.

  • Michel

    “The motive for this, perhaps, is to calm his more right-wing supporters, whose feathers were recently ruffled.”

    Which agains works on the notion that some of McCain’s policies are far from genuine, and make me wonder: if he need to concede his very own politics due to pressure from the right-wing, the conservatives, etc….. why would he be firm against foreing conflictive groups?

  • Christopher Schwinger

    O.S., you mentioned McCain’s stance on the Bush tax cuts in another thread. Take it or leave it, O.S.: http://mediamatters.org/items/200801250015

    I suppose you’ll reject it, but oh well. The article shows that McCain changed his tune about his reasoning. That phrase “don’t cast your pearls before swine” might apply to my discussions with you, except that you’re not swine. (Calling someone a swine is very disrespectful and improves nothing.) I just think you just are so defensive that you won’t consider other perspectives in a reasonable sort of way.

  • OBAMA_SUCKS

    I actually consider all perspectives except those of Dreadsen, Michel and others because they dont listen to mine and although they say the do, all they do is just attack at my views. But i listen and have listened to you i just dont believe the questions you have asked me so far are real legitamate questions.

  • Christopher Schwinger

    I try to be sensitive, O.S. If I ever offend you, please know it’s not intentional.

  • Michelle

    O_S, would you bother to listen to or accept the views of any blogger with the handle MCCAIN_SUCKS? Especially if they are always attacking McCain and his supporters in a rather personal way?

    Just a thought…

  • M. Lane Culpepper

    I found John W. McCain’s speech just another pack of lies filled with a few things he tried to get a laugh out of of. Like the “many Veto’s” part. Idiotic at best.
    What are the conservitives thinking? This guy was considered by many to be incompetent by Bush to be president in 2000. So what has happened in 7 years?
    I can’t believe the Conservitives are backing a pro-war, pro-illegal immigration and pro-gay marriage candidate? This is sickening to me as a true conservitive. If McCain gets the Nomination in Sept., I will burn my Republican Card.
    Obama (which I will not vote for either) has about 4 times the votes so far. There is no way a pro-war republican is going to win anything in 2008.

  • Dreadsen

    O.S.

    Look at your name and your style of posting. You are not here to be constructive you are here to be an antagonist. And despite your name I still address all of your points while you COMPLETELY ignore mine. I can post links showing you evidence. When you require me to address a point I have. And no matter how much I ask you to address mine you will avoid with a rebuttal of an Obama attack. You have done lots of name calling and I have pointed this out. It took you probably over 50 posts in one thread to finally stop with the name calling while i wasn’t calling you any names. You just want to shove your views down someone’s throat and if they don’t agree you call them anti-american and other names.
    I have given compliments on McCain when it is something that I like. And I have also complimented other posters who have raised good and fair points on McCain. I challenged his Green stance based on Michel’s point and Babs provided evidence which suggested otherwise to what I was thinking. YOU came back with more of your opinion but didn’t
    give any rebuttal to the EVIDENCE Babs raised. You just continued on with your opinion. How do you expect to convince anyone on your stance if you never address points constructively?
    If you focused more on attacking arguments then attacking the person you wouldn’t have accused Christopher Schwinger of being left wing anti-American,blah blah blah just for opposing Bush or McCain on a particular view in another thread. When that was SO FAR from the truth it was funny. I’ve told you that i’m not a left winger. But you kept on attacking me for being one. You pointed out an error on my part and I apologized and admitted to my error. You are so closed minded and set in your hostility that you could never do that. You’ll just go away and ignore the topic instead.
    I’ve only attacked you on misinformation. And I’ve also provided evidence to why i believe something is misinformation. I’ve also waited for your counter opinion of why this evidence is irrelevant. But you never reply. You want people to just roll over to your words like what you speak is cosmic truth.

  • Babs

    Dreadsen, I think a lot of times people here mistake someone’s opinion (which shouldn’t be attacked) with someone posting false or liablous information (which should be questioned). We’re probably all guilty of it. If we respected each others opinions a little more without some trying to get personal we would probably have a lot more productive threads going than we do. Some here let other peoples opposing opinions get under their skin sometimes because they don’t recognize them as simply opinions, somthing we all have a right to and don’t have to justify. And when that happens we have a pissing contest with the extreme judgementalists on site.

    I don’t think most of us believe we’re here to change others opinions, only to share our own, and comment on the news stories Nate and Michael post. I enjoy our occasional banter because we have a foundation of respect for each other’s opinion even though we support different candidates. Same with Whobody and IndiMinded, we can debate the candidates without disrespecting each other’s right to our own opinion.

    Those who can’t do that are no less committed to their candidate than we are, they just have difficulty articulating sometimes over their passion. Don’t hold that against them, its what makes the world go round.

  • Dale

    Personal indignities aside, I was kind of horrified by this speech. He expects all this in his term?? I can guarantee it he doesn’t really think he’ll do much of it, moreover, given the chance, I also guarantee he wont. I really expected more from McCain than this kind of pointless lowest-common-denominator pandering. I’m really deeply disappointed by this speech.

    This was a direct and completely inept attempt to counter Obama’s far more adept messages for hope and change. Hypothesising and bunch of ‘lofty’ goals you know you’ll never reach? It’d be laughable except that far too many people are swallowing it.

    I personally expected a lot more from McCain.

  • Stalin

    Dale,

    Let me get this straight. You are telling me that McCain is the one who is peddling “hope” now. I thought Obama had the patent on that?

    What did you expect from McCain? That under his administration that nothing will get done and everything will be status quo? We’ll have to tell McCain to tone down the lofty goals crap.

  • Dale

    Stalin, to tell you the truth, I don’t really see your point. I’m not saying don’t have goals, and I’m certainly not saying don’t have dreams and don’t try to reach them, expecially if they’re worthwile. But McCain is peddling ridiculous false hope about things which so transparently and obviously wont happen, at least not in his first term. Anybody can just say that they’ll fix everything, and McCain has done that is such an irresponsible and manner it left me disappointed, that’s all.

    Yes he is peddling hope, but the goals he outlined are so exactly what everybody wants to hear, not what he can actually do.

    Open up for the aeroplane…

  • me

    Wa wa wa wa Wah…Charlie Brown

  • Stalin

    Dale,

    Can you tell me specifically what goals you think are unattainable?