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Since Obama wouldn’t agree to the April 27th date for a debate to be aired on CBS from North Carolina, the state party decided to officially cancel it. No surprise here since Obama is already leading in North Carolina and, at this point, a debate could risk hurting him there considering the last debate.
Here’s the story on it from nbc17.com:
RALEIGH, N.C. — The North Carolina Democratic Party announced Monday that it will cancel the proposed Democratic Presidential debate on April 27 “due to time constraints and logistical issues associated with such a large, national event.”
While Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama earlier agreed to debate in North Carolina, the two candidates each agreed to separate dates.
Obama also said after 21 debates, he can recite Clinton’s lines and Clinton can recite his. And he said that if the two have a debate in North Carolina, then voters in Indiana, which also has a primary on May 6, will say “What about us?”
In recent days, Gov. Mike Easley and members of the General Assembly encouraged both candidates to debate here.
“While there was great interest in the debate, there were also growing concerns about what another debate would do to party unity,” the Democratic Party said in a press release.
Both campaigns will be visiting North Carolina several times prior to the primary.
In addition, both Clinton and Obama will attend the NC Democratic Party’s Jefferson-Jackson Dinner May 2 in Raleigh.
So that may be it, I’m betting there won’t be anymore debates between the two of them. The next debate we’ll be seeing will be between the Democratic and Republican nominees come august perhaps.
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Smart move on Obama’s part. These debates are a dog and pony show. Complete waste of time.
No need for this circus anymore.
I’ll wait for the one later this year.
Obama is weak
This further shows just how weak Obama is. If he’s not brave enough to face Clinton in a debate, I just don’t feel he’s strong enough or mature enough to lead this country.
I’m glad someone finally called a halt to the debates. Most TV series only run 16 weeks, after 21 debates, they can just run reruns of them and nobody would notice.
Dumb move on obama’s part. It just shows how weak how is again that when he gives a horrible debate performance, he blames everyone else and does not even try to redeem himself. He certainly went out on a bad note and if he goes against Mccain he isn’t going to get a free pass. If he can’t answer the questions now, he won’t be able to answer them then. His cruelty and weakness show more each day.
Cruelty? For backing out of a debate?
You get pretty heated up about this stuff, don’t you Caleb? You really ought to take a few deep breaths.
Wow, I didn’t realize that there were so many Obama “haters” in here. I always thought that this website was not particular to just one candidate.
Well, the person who is doing better in the race is usually the one who gets the most heat. It’s called desperation, and it’s a normal thing. If I were a Clinton supporter, and her rival was admired and followed by so many people, I would be pretty frustrated to. So I think it’s a good thing that Hillary won PA. If the desperation decreases, so will the heat against Obama. And in the end, it doesn’t mind. He has already secured a lot of things for being the Democratic candidate. If Hillary wants to widen the divisions in her own party just to chase an illusion, that’s her choice.
But she would need to learn a lesson or two from John Edwards.
Michel,
I think you need to chill…
she wins=desperation=poor obama getting picked on.
wOw
he sure secured everything, so why isn’t he the dem candidate?
and this talk of “division” between the party C’MON!
im an HC supporter but let me tell you if BO won the nomination I won’t even hesitate, I’d vote for him. It’s not division, there is loyalty and regardless of who takes it, the democratic party shouldn’t be injured because voters shouldnt sway back and forth for disliking HC or BO personally.
Caleb good point.
Thank you for asking. Your concerns deserve an explanation.
1st. I don’t meant, by any margin, that she winning was equal to desperation, and that had anything t do whith the Obama bashing. What I meant is that the Clinton supporters, from in and outside the campaign, make the comments against Obama increasingly personal and the hostility peaked at the ABC debate. That, I believe, has a lot to do with the perceived notion that Hillary is down and can’t recover, and fur such reasons they are trying to find even more dirt on Obama. That applies too for Clintons fans in some forums and blogs. I’m sorry but I find no argument for most of the recent attacks on Obama, and I’ve coe to think that the Clinton camp will stop at nothing to get her to win. If she were doing that from the very beginning, and not now when she’s losing in such an irreversible manner, I’d call it something else. But now, I think less room for discussion… it’s desperation.
2nd. Why he isn’t the Democratic candidate? Because neither of them will get enough delegates to secure the party nomination. The Dems have a different voting system than the Republicans… the Republicans take all or none of the delegates from one state; the Dems take them proportionally (which, by the way, I think is the most democratic way).
Obama he has more pledged delegates than Clinton, and more super-delegates as well. What she is doing is to try to impress superdelegates by doing well in nthe next events and trying to make a point about her being better suited for the Oval Office (and for this she’s also playing a little the politics of fear and demagogy, if you have seen her recent Osama ad).
And if Hillary keeps doing that she’s only accomplishing three things: 1-She’s trying to keep the party nomination away candidate from the candidate with more delegates, and that’s not very democratic… 2-She’s weakening the party in front of the public opinion and the Republicans… 3-She’s resorting to each time more personal issues to attack Obama and, if Obama is indeed the Democratic candidate, that will make McCains homework of directing the public opinion away from his flawed political stances. How the voters SHOULD act sometimes is not the same thing as what the voters WILL do… and that’s something that Hillary Rodham Clinton must have learned from her years of experience. After all, Bush got reelected.
That’s, basically, dividing her own party just from desperation. I’m not the only one who’s pointing that out. Is common sense.
“Obama he has more pledged delegates than Clinton, and more super-delegates as well.”
In fact, Clinton is ahead in Superdelegates, not Obama.
http://www.politico.com/superdelegates/
And her strongest support in the Superdelegate race is coming from inside the DNC and Distinguished Party Members.
Obama has given dollar contributions to more Superdelegate by a wide margin, but they haven’t paid off for him yet.
Obama stated that \
My bad then. I was misinformed.
Obama doesn’t need to debate in NC, he’s already got that state locked up and there would only be downside for him, especially if he fumbles again like the last debate.
Stalin, what do you think are the chances of Obama (if he’s the nom) debating McCain one on one?
I think Obama’s chances against McCain are high. McCains comments seem to point to him playing clean politics, on the contrary of Clinton. And that should be enough to Obama since he is supposed to be more eloquent and less hot-tempered than McCain. Not mentioning that McCain hasn’t been against under fire in any kind of debate yet. But Obama’s have been traning in the big leagues with Clinton.
Babs,
I think McCain will do really well against Obama. McCain will really be able to play up his experience. Obama will try to make McCain look like more of the same, but I think McCain has kept a relative distance from Bush and this argument will not stick very long. The only place it will stick is on the war. There is a fundamental difference of opinion on how best to handle the Iraq war. McCain will need to show how short term pain in Iraq will reap long term benefits. This is not easy when dealing with a very impatient American people.
I agree, Stalin, but I think that McCain can make as good a case for Iraq as Obama can make against it. Clinton, she’s sort of in the middle of that, especially after saying we could obliterate Iran. She would be tougher to debate on the subject, I think. But Obama, I think he’s too far left on the war to make any better argument than McCain can.
I’ve been trying to catch more of the Fox feeds of McCain’s town hall meetings, and I’ve noticed that you just don’t rattle him with questions from the floor. And his answers have been right on, even the ones he prefaces with “I’m sorry to have to tell you this” or “you’re not going to like this answer, but I’m going to tell you the truth”. And I see the reaction from the audience is a good one, because it comes off as being honest and straight. While Obama is an eloquent speech master, he stutters and fumbles a lot on the “off the cuff” side. I’m wondering if Obama realizes his disadvantage there, and if he will even try to debate McCain.
Whichever dem wins this, they ought to keep Joe Biden close by their side. Biden has publicly said that he doesn’t seek a high office in the next administration, but personally I’m really hoping that’s not true.
There’s no Dem who can speak on Iraq like Joe Biden. I think he’ll be an asset for the dems in the debate to come.
Good point, IndiMinded. And may just be Obama needs in those circumstances.